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  1. #748

    Not Culture

    Quote Originally Posted by Sound7
    Just reading Mexico including Tijuana HK will not provide the protection against the HK's talented staff.

    Better cultural understanding and timing - key for cash conservation anywhere.
    It is not so much as the culture of any country but the subculture of the business.

    The hustle is basically the same anywhere but by reading this forum, you should learn the prices,where to go and not go and what is really available.

    Walking into a situation with an arm full of intel, will have you set up for success.
    By reading this forum you should be aware of the scams that are out there, like the potato chip scam and how to deal with it.

    Reading this forum should heighten your sense of awareness to the point where you see the scams coming and know how to deter most of them.

    No matter how talented the staff may be, if you are ready for it it is less effective.
    Everyone in the hobby does get scammed at one point or another but the difference between them and a PLM is the amount and how often it occurs.

    Stopping or blocking scams in the beginning will stop/slowdown future attempts.
    Scams mainly target the unknowing!

  2. #747

    Mexico, TJ & HK Forum Reading

    Just reading Mexico including Tijuana HK will not provide the protection against the HK's talented staff.
    Better cultural understanding and timing - key for cash conservation anywhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Perv
    Like a lot of American strippers. Slowly but constantly ( aka grinding) draining your wallet/credit card (drinks,tips, lap dances,lines of BS and it is all a tease).

    That is why I hate most USA strip clubs.

    We all know people who have dropped hundreds without so much as a sticky finger to show/smell for it.

    In the zona, if I am not getting some p*ssy by the 1000 peso mark I would be a PLM. Yes, I know it takes a lot less but I am talking PLM ( meaning that I am trying to get some and not or way overpaying).

    Anybody who reads this forum , should never fall into that category.

  3. #746
    Quote Originally Posted by Rabo Verde
    So the "shy" looking girls with the sashes are mostly local TJ girls who tell their family and friends they just get paid to only DANCE there, or hand out flyers, fully clothed.

    Even if they are only "promoting," no one is going to believe it. You know how people love to gossip and exagerate stories. I'm sure over 80% percent of these sash girls wouldn't even dare tell their parents that they work as dancers.

  4. #745

    Mystery Solved!

    So I was gossiping with some of the HK girls in Spanish.
    Very few local TJ girls like to even be SEEN in the zona, as the immediate rumors will start. Well the HK management found a solution:

    After the remodel, the club started advertising for and recruiting young TJ girls. The club pays young local hotties about $1 an hour just to stand on the bar or the rail and dance. The sash is optional. They get to tell people they are "promotadoras" which is kinda like the guys at the front of WALMART who say "WELCOME TO WALMART, HAVE A NICE DAY!"

    They get clocked in on a clipboard and clocked out, and they get 100-150 pesos for "dancing" or hanging around out front of the bar for 8 hours.
    They all start out thinking well I am just gonna dance and/or greet people with my clothes on....

    They are not required to let guys touch them or get naked. So a bunch of local girls said hell, why not! Hang out at the disco with my girlfriends and get PAID for it? Just for wearing a sash? Fuck yeah! Then some of the braver ones started accepting drinks, privados, etc., and the rest is history..... jajaja

    So the "shy" looking girls with the sashes are mostly local TJ girls who tell their family and friends they just get paid to only DANCE there, or hand out flyers, fully clothed. Many of them have to be home at 9 PM for their BEDTIME!!!!! Never underestimate the power of denial ROFL

  5. #744

    Hey Now!

    An American woman????
    Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah at least a Mexican girl WILL usually fuck you before she robs you!

  6. #743

    Like American Strippers

    Quote Originally Posted by Efjayel
    In other words an American woman.
    Like a lot of American strippers. Slowly but constantly ( aka grinding) draining your wallet/credit card (drinks,tips, lap dances,lines of BS and it is all a tease).

    That is why I hate most USA strip clubs.

    We all know people who have dropped hundreds without so much as a sticky finger to show/smell for it.

    In the zona, if I am not getting some p*ssy by the 1000 peso mark I would be a PLM. Yes, I know it takes a lot less but I am talking PLM ( meaning that I am trying to get some and not or way overpaying).

    Anybody who reads this forum , should never fall into that category.

  7. #742
    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Perv
    What we in the USA call a hustler. Beware!
    In other words an American woman.

  8. #741

    Hustler

    Quote Originally Posted by Efjayel
    lol, whats a grinder?
    What we in the USA call a hustler. Beware!

  9. #740

    PLM Grinder, Class A (Top Income Producer?)- HK Income Model

    HK has at least one PLM Grinder, Class A as defined by CJ to my knowledge. Chica can work with multi-servers to chase the cash out from patron's pocket in a very short time and be very effective with chica drink orders. The Chica drink is effectively discarded - just like magic and the new bottle is pre-opened in most cases like an assembly line. Constantly surrounded by servers providing chatter, distracting conversation and physical screen. Open floor booth ideal setup. Servers coming constantly in all direction. Lots of beer spill on the floor and full bottle removed quickly like magic trick. Ten plus Chica drinks in one hour with demanding tipping from servers and slow money change process. Multi-Server tracking a major challenge even with the ID number badge for the money change.

    Try to use the same single server to better control this situation in the future, or just move on.

    AB providers on the other hand uses a different income model.

    bon voyage

    Quote Originally Posted by Country John
    A PLM "Grinder" is a chica who can spot a potential PLM from across the smoke filled room, approach him and immediately start his head spinning such that he empties his wallet, and is on the "hook" firmly for future fleecing that is carried out mercilessly for as long as he remains under her spell.

    Never let a chica lose respect.
    Last edited by Sound7; 05-29-09 at 07:56. Reason: SP Error

  10. #739

    What is a PLM "grinder?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Efjayel
    lol, whats a grinder?
    A PLM "Grinder" is a chica who can spot a potential PLM from across the smoke filled room, approach him and immediately start his head spinning such that he empties his wallet, and is on the "hook" firmly for future fleecing that is carried out mercilessly for as long as he remains under her spell.

    Never let a chica lose respect.

  11. #738
    Quote Originally Posted by Country John
    PLM means Pathetic Loser Monger.

    lol, whats a grinder?

  12. #737
    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Perv
    OK, I give up, what is a PLM?

    I know that just PL is Pathetic Loser.
    PLM means Pathetic Loser Monger.

  13. #736

    Plm ?

    OK, I give up, what is a PLM?

    I know that just PL is Pathetic Loser.

  14. #735

    Thanks for clearing that up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phordphan
    I'm a little cornfuzed. Are the pix in question here the ones posted by Ze Gato? If so, they are most definitely NOT Salma.
    Yes, I'm thinking the original post might not have been clear enough to make the disctinction. Thanks for clearing that up. I had to brighten up the images a bit and I did that this morning before posting. That's when I realized that it might not be the same girl, hence the question. No more confusion on this end.

    I got an ID on the girl by the way, she is MOYSHA at Hong Kong who turns out to be a PLM grinder of the "Class A" type.

    Country John

  15. #734
    Quote Originally Posted by Country John
    .

    Pelongera, I always believed a monger should be square with the girl and show respect. she might not work out but that's the chance we take in this hobby. If it's actually the same Salma I remember in the photo, she's probably closer to nine today. I last saw her almot 5 years ago, not that she was a "5" when I saw her. It's proably true that, compared to what she looks like today, she was probably a five or so back then. She's probably the closest thing to a sure thing the Zona has to offer. Be nice to her and treat her right.

    And don't post pictures without her consent. There are people that she does NOT want to know where she works, her parents for example. So these posted pics should come down and her privacy respected.

    Thanks
    Country John
    I'm a little cornfuzed. Are the pix in question here the ones posted by Ze Gato? If so, they are most definitely NOT Salma.

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