North China - Beijing

[Beijing Fox]

Hi Comrades, I'm having problems connecting from my PC within China to this site or other sites of 'fine' contents. All my proxy servers don't work anymore and the search on the intrernet doesn't bring up any new anymore.

Is this a new onslaught by the Chinese government to restrict the freedom of information in this country?

If I'm wrong and just to dumb to connect, I would appreciate, if someone could pm me a working proxy server URL. Thanks in advance BJF

[Bowerboy]

A lot to learn indeed...walk into bar, pick prostitute, pay her (or overpay as the case would seem to be), go home and enjoy....yes, a lot to take in there.

If people refused to pay those prices then I can assure you the price would come down...enough phone calls from the folks back home asking for money and one too many nights of refusing to go with a client for 600RMB or 800RMB will soon change their mind....that is the way the world works and that is the way the market works (or should work if common sense prevails)..the pendulum swings both ways....from what you are saying they are struggling for business....so hey, the good times are over and now it is (or should be) time to start getting more realistic with pricing....but it will never happen if people continue to pay over the odds and encourage others to do so....you guys have become the "market makers" by looking back at previous posts.

Anyway not my problem I guess. Seems that some guys really get it, such as the guy who paid 500 RMB and the other guy I know who paid 400 RMB....and others dont.

It amazes me when people bring their western financial perspective and apply it without considering the broader picture (and I have been guilty of this plenty of times myself).

Good luck anyway.

[Zhuren]

Why didn't you just stay in BKK?

You said it, Fredo, but I must agree.

Bowerboy, you have a lot to learn. Like every newcomer, I would go quietly about it.

I'd not introduce myself with my screen name for a while if I were you. Unless you want to become highly intimate with your right hand ...

"Maggies and other expat places are completely off the list for me now with those prices." Good. That solves that. Now stop ranting.

There are some places outside 5th ringroad that serve migrant workers ...

Personally, I'm sick and tired of the price discussions. If you have to ask and all that ....

[Fredo24]

I realise I am not exactly endearing myself to the senior members but seriously after reading the posts here it is clear to see why exorbitant pricing is now the norm at Maggies and other such venues..,and to add insult to injury it seems that 1,000RMB is the going rate for a mongolian WITH A KID!!! This is prostitution not a charity!!!!

For 1000 RMB you get a stunning tigress in your bed, who will do everything you want, and more. And if you treat her well, price can go down dramatically. Etc. Etc.. A bargain in my eyes.

Why didn't you just stay in BKK?

[Zhuren]

I realise I am not exactly endearing myself to the senior members

Very perceptive.

[Horny Cock]

Hmmm. 600 all night, eh? Did she come with a bag over her head? I came here when the yuan was still pegged 8 to the dollar, and the rack rate (in more ways than one) at Maggie's was 800 RMB = $100. Exchange rates shifted to the detriment of the $. Our Northern Sisters are usually well educated and know their currencies. So the rate rose to 1000 RMB, which equaled EUR 100. Even that is no longer true, but the rate stuck.

Whether that buys you LT or ST depends on the time of the day, your staying power, the market, and the zodiac. Not to forget the rate of inebriation of your counterparty.

Today I check, 1USD = 6.8 RMB. So if we agree to stick to 800 RMB for ST, the girls are getting 100USD ST. Since when and why do the northern sisters get smart to raise the rate to 1000 RMB and we have to comply? Why do we have to comply when they shift the 'trading' currency from USD to Euro since they don't come from and live in either of these regions? Anyway, I don't mind paying and don't waste too much time and energy to argue the 200RMB if she is both a stunner and a performer which is most of the cases I experience in Maggies' but for Hollywood takeout, I will have to think twice. Just my 2 cents.

[Bowerboy]

I realise I am not exactly endearing myself to the senior members but seriously after reading the posts here it is clear to see why exorbitant pricing is now the norm at Maggies and other such venues..,and to add insult to injury it seems that 1,000RMB is the going rate for a mongolian WITH A KID!!! This is prostitution not a charity!!!! No wonder they all came flocking when Sammy called...its payday from just about the only customer in town!! Girls are asking this because guys seem to be paying it for some strange reason....i dont understand Beijing yet but I DO understand market dynamics....exact same thing happened in Beijing when the Japanese started frequenting all the expat haunts such as Cowboy and Nana...all of a sudden the price shot up because thats what the Japanese were prepared to pay...

You guys that are trying to start the charity thing are almost spoiling it for the girls in some ways...Maggies and other expat places are completely off the list for me now with those prices and I wonder how many other guys feel the same way....if it was 600RMB then perhaps many more guys would go there and business would increase....there is an economic crisis going on out there and why should their "business" go unaffected and indeed pricing go up as you suggest...

There are thousands of Mongolians (and Thai's and Vietnamese and Chinese etc etc) that are NOT hookers...it is a choice they make to be a hooker and millions survive without having to do the same thing.......

No, this pricing thing is crazy to my eyes for this part of the world. I apologise in advance if i have annoyed anyone with this post but I have to say it how I see it...

[Bored In Beijing]

400 RMB for an hour massage and a HJ, seems pretty steep to me. Why should she do FS if she gets away with this pricing? In my experience few, if any semi-pros or legit girls would ever admit they do FS, but if a girl likes you, everything goes. What was the FS rate, by the way?

True, but she is nice and her apartment is clean and pleasant. The FS rate was the same as the massage.

[Bored In Beijing]

Bejing is out of muy itineraries, but thanks for the hint.
Still how can one interested find this girl thorugh Google?
no name, no location, no MP name, nothing... goggle "incall massage Bejing will results in a trillion of referrals...and all with dozens of ads..
I am afraid you have to give more infos to help the fellow mongers interested to this HJ specialist.

Actually, of those trillion referrals only a handful are for incall and most are for the same girl. Look for magic hands or massageinbeijing.spaces.live.com

Enjoy

[Zhuren]

Hi Zhuren, this sounds really interesting. I'm intrigued. :-) How and where can I find a Mongolian to adopt? :-)

Just hang out with a few, You'll find one worth adopting, I promise. Want to bet ?

[Loveasiangirls]

While I am more into freebies, I certainly know that the Mogolian sisters are legends. I only went one time to Maggies with a friend visiting from back home. Two things preventing me from taking one home. First, before midnite they are not too keen on LT as they hope to get a ST first. But for me 2am is too late, I want to get some sleep at that time. Secondly, to bargain is fine at the Silk Market but in this case it gives me an uncomfortable feeling. So what is the right price for LT and ST that will make them happy?

Gentlemen, times are tough. Gone are the days when BSDs showed up with bundles of red Maos burning in their pockets. But these are not the times to go cheap on our Northern Sisters. These are the times to invest.

Ever wondered how Sammy can come up with 15 girls inside of 20 minutes, with just a few text messages? Because he has a big heart and is generous. Sammy is not a BSD. He's a nice guy who cares. And who gets a big return on his investment.

You can do that too. Especially now when times are tough. Not with bickering whether it's 800 or 1000. Jeez, what is it for you? For her, it's whether she can pay her rent and whether the kid at home (most have one) will get clothes and something to eat. Business is way down. Even the stunners have maybe one or two customers a week. Now is your time to show some measured generosity.

Take them out to dinner. If you have a little work assignment, think of them. Most are better educated than their local colleagues. Many have full university degrees, studied abroad. Need a Russian-English-Chinese translator? Many can do it. I know a guy who has 5 ex-Maggie's girls working at his office, and he's happy with them. Need to entertain a client discretely on a business trip? Many look good in a business suit, can take care of secretarial jobs during the day and make your client happy at night.

I guarantee you: Adopt-a-Mongolian, and you will go to heaven. If you are one of those really bad unrepentant sinners, you may still go to hell. Adopt-a-Mongolian, and you will go to the only place in hell that has A/C.

[Beijing Fox]

Hi Zhuren, this sounds really interesting. I'm intrigued. :-) How and where can I find a Mongolian to adopt? :-)

Gentlemen, times are tough. Gone are the days when BSDs showed up with bundles of red Maos burning in their pockets. But these are not the times to go cheap on our Northern Sisters. These are the times to invest.

Ever wondered how Sammy can come up with 15 girls inside of 20 minutes, with just a few text messages? Because he has a big heart and is generous. Sammy is not a BSD. He's a nice guy who cares. And who gets a big return on his investment.

You can do that too. Especially now when times are tough. Not with bickering whether it's 800 or 1000. Jeez, what is it for you? For her, it's whether she can pay her rent and whether the kid at home (most have one) will get clothes and something to eat. Business is way down. Even the stunners have maybe one or two customers a week. Now is your time to show some measured generosity.

Take them out to dinner. If you have a little work assignment, think of them. Most are better educated than their local colleagues. Many have full university degrees, studied abroad. Need a Russian-English-Chinese translator? Many can do it. I know a guy who has 5 ex-Maggie's girls working at his office, and he's happy with them. Need to entertain a client discretely on a business trip? Many look good in a business suit, can take care of secretarial jobs during the day and make your client happy at night.

I guarantee you: Adopt-a-Mongolian, and you will go to heaven. If you are one of those really bad unrepentant sinners, you may still go to hell. Adopt-a-Mongolian, and you will go to the only place in hell that has A/C.

[Canada]

Zhuran you are absolutely right with your report. Treat them well and you shall be rewarded. I was the beneficiary of this on this trip. I witnessed Sammy's mastery and you are right Sammy can get 15 Mongolians in 30 minutes with some texts and he even gets the new girls because all the sisters know Sammy's generosity to them. I ended up Friday night and Saturday night with a newer girl that came with a friend who knew Sammy. I treated her right for 2 days. She never left until noon each day. Sunday afternoon she calls and asks if she can just sleep in. my room no pay. I said OK and she slept in the afternoon ended up leaving next morning at 6. Had sex 2 times and she refused money saying she only came to sleep. Was gone Monday night but had her come back for one more night before I left. Overall thanks to Sammy I found a gem in the rough. This girl is young, sweet and a keeper. Although I have had a couple of Mongolians that were unreasonable for the most part if you treat them fair you will be rewarded. You know what is fair and so do they. If you give them a couple hundred RMB extra in most cases you get more than your moneys worth

[Mike B]

Gentlemen, times are tough. Gone are the days when BSDs showed up with bundles of red Maos burning in their pockets. But these are not the times to go cheap on our Northern Sisters. These are the times to invest. ... Especially now when times are tough. Not with bickering whether it's 800 or 1000. Jeez, what is it for you?

I must agree with this.

It's too easy to think, "hey, the girls are hungry, how can I exploit this?" But I'd like to think many (if not most) mongers reading this forum are decent people and know these girls are in a difficult situation even in the best of days.

There's a fine line between mongering and exploitation. In tough times we can easily get into a "predatory" relationship -- where one side unfairly "uses" the other.

Sometimes that's just unavoidable, but hopefully from time to time we can have a different kind of relationship -- where the guys and the girls help each other, for mutual benefit and satisfaction.

[Mate]

It has been a while since I visited Beijing for a visit. My visit last week in Beijing was comforting to see that the night life in the capital is still alive and happening.

Besides all the local KTVs my host took me to, I found a gem of a massage service near my hotel at the CBD area. The girls were young but experienced and extremely friendly and nice. I was quite tired from all the meetings and drinking so for two nights I ordered girls to my room at night for a nice two hour massage then a happy ending for less than three hundred rmb. The girls were clean. Pretty. Spoke a little English and I was told they do offer more for just a bit more.

My Chinese is pretty bad but I think they do incall as well. I ordered to hotel. I think one night I got back to my room around 4 in the morning and had quite a few drinks. I called and a girl arrived less than 15 minutes later...and just completely relaxed me. She was from Sichuan...total knock out body with silky smooth skin. I wanted to but I think i passed out...alas.

Anyway, anyone needing inexpensive and discreet services, landline is five eight two zero four nine zero eight.

I hope you have as much fun as I had last week. Went to a KTV for locals, a KTV for Koreans, a ktv for Japanese, a spa, and of course the massage place.

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