Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[Chocha Monger]

I don’t know YF a guy should feel like he deserves more in life. I don’t care how ugly, fat, stupid, broke, old…. SE can't you give yourself more credit than that? Just an opinion.

Well, when a man plans to continue mongering in his marriage he can hardly demand undying love and devotion from his wife. Perhaps this is the reason why so many mongers marry bar girls. In their hearts they can never really leave mongering behind. You can take the girl out the bar but you can't ever take the monger out the wh*rehouse.

[Starchild2012]

Anyone that followed my posts knows I am a hard headed atheist, at least when we are talking about any traditional sense of religion. I never go in to argument with peoples living in the fantasy land called religion. Neither do I try to convert people who believe the earth is flat.

I agree with your assessment on individuality and that national boundaries, race, cultures does not matter, but you have to understand that in order for me to make a point i had no choice but to differentiate everything first and then find some perspective on why things are the way they are.

I could have gone directly and touched the spiritual line..without mentioning day today life and the problems and issues we have but it won't make any sense.

I view my life completely in a spiritual way, so i don't believe whatsoever in racism, nationalism or all the other ....ism's that exist but again to make a point i have to brings some difficult issues up.

It is not the platform to discuss spirituality we know, but i think even our mongering would be more fun spiritually. :)

We could discuss the Atheists versus gods debate in PM :) but just to make some lines so that it would help us monger have more fun without feeling guilty.

I started as an atheist, but i felt it lacked answers to the questions of morality, i always felt guilty after paying for sex, don't know why, someway deep down the heart, i felt what im doing is wrong, even if i pay the bar girl high tips, i felt bad for her. Then when i started dating regular girls i still felt guilty, cheating on innocent girls.

I knew deep down my heart, whom i'm kidding, its not right, but i could not find the answer as to why i feel like that.

What was the reason that i felt bad. Being good was not enough, there was a sense of guilt too.

Every Atheist & a believer knows in his heart being selfish is good short time but somewhere deeper down in his heart he knows giving away and being unselfish is still better.

No monger here likes a selfish bar girl who goes with us only for money, everyone love a unselfish giver bar girl who gives our money's worth.

Not many people know, Buddha was an Atheist, he rejected all the gods in India and the temples and priests etc. He never once took a guru, did yoga, or read scriptures...he founds all the answers by himself...yet he reached exactly the same nirvana what the scriptures wrote.

He debated with all the priests and gurus, that if there is such a god in the world then why so much pain and suffering, if there is a god, i would find it myself etc.

There is a hell lot of misunderstanding about Atheism and spiritualism, you don't have to believe in some higher power to be spiritual, it is perfectly ok to be Atheist only equation is you have to reach a conclusion of your path.

I don't get Atheists moral code of conduct if they have any and in my line of fun doing bar girls, i feel only spiritualism has the answers for a guilty free good karmic fun.

I would love to know what is your moral code of conduct with regards to bar girls and fun, if you say be good to them, get the value for money, never hurt or get ripped off by bar girls etc..it wont be enough...'cos i need to know the reason WHY I SHOULD BE GOOD TO EVERYONE AROUND and not a jacckass :)

[Yellow Fever #2]

Advantages of marrying a bargirl.
1. She has been with enough men to know what you want to hear.
2. More experience in sex probably all three holes.
3. If she has gone out on trips with enough foreigners she would have found
a taste in liking for our kind of food.
4. Will be a good company wherever you take her for e.g. will know how to fold the napkin, correct way to use knife and pork, how to dress properly etc.
5. Will tolerate your mongering on the side and may participate in also.
6. She has been treated like shit by mamasans, bar managers, customers and other girls, so she would have a high tolerance factor.
7. Would be happy with a stable life.

1. She know what you want to hear, so she will say it whether it is true or not. She only aims to please you.
2. All three holes have been available, trained and well used. Perhaps your friends know her intimately too.
3. She has or may have traveled with foreigners in style and tasted our food but she still likes her own.
4. Depending on her upbringing, she may know how to use a knife and a fork but prefers to use her hands. She will definitely know how to dress for the bar and how to apply makeup.
5. She will be jealous and have a very tuned radar to your mongering ways. She will know how to take care of herself on the side.
6. She will have a high tolerance factor. (we agree)
7. We hope she would be happy with a stable life but it is really hard to give up the nightlife. All that matters is that she can take care of her family.

I've heard that bargirls can make great girlfriends and wonderful wives but it is a very high risk option.

I do not think most bargirls are very skilled in fine etiquette and high culture but I suppose they can learn. Most have lived lives in poverty with little or no education and nothing but the clothes on their back and their physical assets which rapidly decline in value over time.

Dating a bar girl is risky. SE take your time with her. I agree you can marry her and if needed you can divorce her too. As Barba wrote marriage is a relic but you will probably need to take this step in order to import her to your country and to 'make her happy'.

I've had my experience with PI bar girls in the past. I probably won't repeat it but I won't say never. My little head frequently prevails.

Remember the 3 Fs, find em, fuck em, forget em.

[Member #4167]

Advantages of marrying a bargirl.

1. She has been with enough men to know what you want to hear.

2. More experience in sex probably all three holes.

3. If she has gone out on trips with enough foreigners she would have found
a taste in liking for our kind of food.

4. Will be a good company wherever you take her for e.g. will know how to fold the napkin, correct way to use knife and pork, how to dress properly etc.

5. Will tolerate your mongering on the side and may participate in also.

6. She has been treated like shit by mamasans, bar managers, customers and other girls, so she would have a high tolerance factor.

7. Would be happy with a stable life.

I disagree with some of your points:

3. She will be spoiled, and used to men spending big bucks on her.

5. I doubt this. She will want to lock you up. She will fight and nag and cause tantrums to ensure that all of your loads and all of your money are spent on her.

[Sammon]

Well, you are not the only one who would support me, but definitely one of the few. Yes, correct, most of the advices here come from the same type of men, even if I do not see the world in black and white as you seem to do.

I have no information enough to say whether Asia has a fairly good percentage of love lasting relationship, but, according to my experience, I always feel that the Asian girls are "different".

Why would I not love to have a big large family? Because here growing children is ridiculously expensive. And I know what you might reply: they do not need money to grow up happy but, unfortunately, we are all well in the "money mechanism" and so it is not easy to find a way out. And you do not need to blame about western women, since I know it very well and it is why I am thinking to take now one who is not born in a Western Country.

I fully agree that she being a bar girl is not the biggest problem. But it is hard to believe that a girl so much younger can decide to marry such a much older man only for spiritual reason, under a general point of view. I do not know whether when I met her it was my call of destiny and karma, but I really felt very well. That is all. And I thank you for your lines which added a new point of view.

Advantages of marrying a bargirl.
1. She has been with enough men to know what you want to hear.
2. More experience in sex probably all three holes.
3. If she has gone out on trips with enough foreigners she would have found
a taste in liking for our kind of food.
4. Will be a good company wherever you take her for e.g. will know how to fold the napkin, correct way to use knife and pork, how to dress properly etc.
5. Will tolerate your mongering on the side and may participate in also.
6. She has been treated like shit by mamasans, bar managers, customers and other girls, so she would have a high tolerance factor.
7. Would be happy with a stable life.

[GoodEnough]

To use India as a standard by which to judge anything anywhere else is, in my opinion, ridiculous. First, a large number, if not most marriages there are "arranged," by parents so love doesn't enter into the equation at all except, perhaps, later. Second, divorce is low partially because it's a societal no-no, which is important in a totally conformist society, because it would rupture clain/familial relationships which are the basis for many marriages, and because the grooms' mothers, who basically control the lives of the young marrieds, wouldn't stand for it. My six-month tour in that place led me to that it's one of the most sexually repressed places on earth. Divorce is high in the West because there's a concept called free will, which does not, for the most part, exist in India.

As to the "should I/shouldn't I" question, I'd take Barba's advice and remove the bar girl background from the equation, and go with your own feelings, her feelings and your sense of her character. Most girls work in P4P bars as a matter of survival; thus the fact that she did so is no predictor of future behavior once her survival needs are taken care of. I would be much more concerned about other factors, such as her expectations regarding your providing support to her family; her ability to manage money; her common sense; her intelligence; and her integrity, none of which have anything to do with what she used to to earn money.

You might want to consider just living with her for a year or so to get a better sense of the aforementioned, before taking the leap into marriage.

GE

[Vaquero]

The only problem I'd have with working bar girls on a regular basis is that they would entertain all sorts of clients, some of whom who'd insist on unprotected sex even if they have an STD.

Otherwise, even though I'm American and I drank a lot before I turned 21, I don't really enjoy the prospect of getting blotto before sex. Don't get me wrong, I can still get it up after a bottle of Jager. I just don't like that polluted feeling and don't much care for women who smoke and drink to excess.

One of my brother's friends long ago had a job as part of some international commission that took him to the Phillipines. A local dude took him to a very upscale bordello, and at 21 or so, my bro's friend was amazed and had his best sex ever with a stunner who worked there.

The bummer for him is he got herpes, but he makes enough cash now that his American fiancee somehow overlooked that and now they just tango around the outbreaks.

But my brother said that despite catching herpes, this dude still has an awestruck look on his face every time he talks about fucking that broad.

[SmartEuropean]

I may be the only one here who would support you to do what you feel right, if you want to marry a bar girl go for it.

Most of the advice you are getting here are from mongers who are from west where the divorce rate is 50% or rather 1 in 2 mongers here are divorced, separated or never married, very few including me knows the true emotions of love but we all here know the emotions of lust and its association with money.

Western men may be the last place you would wanna go to take advice on love and marriage :D no hard feelings guys...

Asia has a fairly good percentage of love lasting till death do us apart, your chance of success with an Asian girl no matter where she is from is far greater than the women from west.

I'm from India where the divorce rate is very very low, 98% marriages are successful more or less same is with east Asian countries and same is true with Philippines.

Only a fool or an ignorant will tell you not to marry an Asian girl.

Its like an Asian dude advising the size of dicks to a western men. Some things we should better leave it to others. Western folks are never good at relationship stuff, they should not advice people whom they themselves have failed at again and again.

Here western mongers will always pick on the negative side of things and then would happily relate it to money, money, money...everything starts and ends with money for them.

They would never appreciate the culture of family the Filipinos lay emphasis on...rest be assured if you have a Filipino kid, he will be more respectful and would never abandon you to an old age home. At least you will have some people to fall back on. (sorry to bring the kid factor in)

Why would you not love to have a big large family, the western mongers will counter it by saying you will be the family ATM for all, agree, but you would also be the one who would get number 1 respect among all, you would also be the decision maker unlike if you have a western wife who would take all your money yet not listen to you. why haven't anyone mentioned this to you ?

We can not have both ways, its time for introspection, ever wondered why Asian marriages are successful than the west, if money was the only factor, then west should have the lowest divorce rate... quite the opposite right...which itself says that all assumption that Filipina or Asian girl would be after your money is wrong else if not then west should have successful marriage day in and day out which is not true.

Now the question of she being a bar girl and all the negative comments fellow mongers are writing about her background and what your life will become if you marry her.

This could only be answered and understood if a monger would please take the factor of money and survival out of the situation and think purely on spiritual grounds.

Spiritualism Precedes Materialism, nature created us... men did not create sun, moon and the galaxies, if you base your marriage on money and nothing else, the relationship is bound to fail....when you met her..it was your call of destiny and karma rather than you met her because you had desires for sex and she had to work in the bar to support her family and herself etc.

This critical thinking difference would decide if your marriage is going to be successful or not..its more like believing that man is spiritual than material that would decide your destiny with her.

Its the ignorance which is the greatest sin, people would say "what a load of crap, do you want me to believe in some snake oil theory about karma and destiny not on her survival, if it was not for the bar you would not have met her in the first place etc and if you ask the same "what a load of crap" guys on why western marriage fail in spite of the best life a society can give...they don't have answer to that ...survival, job, money, developed societies etc are not the criteria for successful marriage.

If she was not a bar girl but a highly sophisticated girl, your chances of success with her would be exactly same as the bar girl, cos the underlying thinking has not changed.

THE POINT IS SUCCESSFUL MARRIAGE HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH MONEY, JOB, SOCIAL STATUS, DEVELOPED OR THIRD WORLD COUNTRY, BAR GIRL, NORMAL GIRL ETC...marriage is spiritual not materialistic...

If you keep on thinking..ohh i met her in a bar, will she dump me later for money because she is a bar girl...your marriage will end as many mongers here are predicting, just by thinking differently and in a spiritual way will do wonders for your marriage.

Its upto you really to shape your relationship anyway you want. Her background of being a bar girl does not matter at all as long as you think in the right way.

Good luck to you.....i would say just go for it...if you have taken a thoughtful decision and you feel for it.

Nothing personal folks, i may have touched some sensitive issues, but it is not directed at any particular person. peace out no fighting on opinions :)

Well, you are not the only one who would support me, but definitely one of the few. Yes, correct, most of the advices here come from the same type of men, even if I do not see the world in black and white as you seem to do.

I have no information enough to say whether Asia has a fairly good percentage of love lasting relationship, but, according to my experience, I always feel that the Asian girls are "different".

Why would I not love to have a big large family? Because here growing children is ridiculously expensive. And I know what you might reply: they do not need money to grow up happy but, unfortunately, we are all well in the "money mechanism" and so it is not easy to find a way out. And you do not need to blame about western women, since I know it very well and it is why I am thinking to take now one who is not born in a Western Country.

I fully agree that she being a bar girl is not the biggest problem. But it is hard to believe that a girl so much younger can decide to marry such a much older man only for spiritual reason, under a general point of view. I do not know whether when I met her it was my call of destiny and karma, but I really felt very well. That is all. And I thank you for your lines which added a new point of view.

[Bill Buxton]

I may be the only one here who would support you to do what you feel right, if you want to marry a bar girl go for it.

Most of the advice you are getting here are from mongers who are from west where the divorce rate is 50% or rather 1 in 2 mongers here are divorced, separated or never married, very few including me knows the true emotions of love but we all here know the emotions of lust and its association with money.

Western men may be the last place you would wanna go to take advice on love and marriage :D no hard feelings guys...

Asia has a fairly good percentage of love lasting till death do us apart, your chance of success with an Asian girl no matter where she is from is far greater than the women from west.

I'm from India where the divorce rate is very very low, 98% marriages are successful more or less same is with east Asian countries and same is true with Philippines.

Only a fool or an ignorant will tell you not to marry an Asian girl.

Its like an Asian dude advising the size of dicks to a western men. Some things we should better leave it to others. Western folks are never good at relationship stuff, they should not advice people whom they themselves have failed at again and again.

Here western mongers will always pick on the negative side of things and then would happily relate it to money, money, money...everything starts and ends with money for them.

They would never appreciate the culture of family the Filipinos lay emphasis on...rest be assured if you have a Filipino kid, he will be more respectful and would never abandon you to an old age home. At least you will have some people to fall back on. (sorry to bring the kid factor in)

Why would you not love to have a big large family, the western mongers will counter it by saying you will be the family ATM for all, agree, but you would also be the one who would get number 1 respect among all, you would also be the decision maker unlike if you have a western wife who would take all your money yet not listen to you. why haven't anyone mentioned this to you ?

We can not have both ways, its time for introspection, ever wondered why Asian marriages are successful than the west, if money was the only factor, then west should have the lowest divorce rate... quite the opposite right...which itself says that all assumption that Filipina or Asian girl would be after your money is wrong else if not then west should have successful marriage day in and day out which is not true.

Now the question of she being a bar girl and all the negative comments fellow mongers are writing about her background and what your life will become if you marry her.

This could only be answered and understood if a monger would please take the factor of money and survival out of the situation and think purely on spiritual grounds.

Spiritualism Precedes Materialism, nature created us... men did not create sun, moon and the galaxies, if you base your marriage on money and nothing else, the relationship is bound to fail....when you met her..it was your call of destiny and karma rather than you met her because you had desires for sex and she had to work in the bar to support her family and herself etc.

This critical thinking difference would decide if your marriage is going to be successful or not..its more like believing that man is spiritual than material that would decide your destiny with her.

Its the ignorance which is the greatest sin, people would say "what a load of crap, do you want me to believe in some snake oil theory about karma and destiny not on her survival, if it was not for the bar you would not have met her in the first place etc and if you ask the same "what a load of crap" guys on why western marriage fail in spite of the best life a society can give...they don't have answer to that ...survival, job, money, developed societies etc are not the criteria for successful marriage.

If she was not a bar girl but a highly sophisticated girl, your chances of success with her would be exactly same as the bar girl, cos the underlying thinking has not changed.

THE POINT IS SUCCESSFUL MARRIAGE HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH MONEY, JOB, SOCIAL STATUS, DEVELOPED OR THIRD WORLD COUNTRY, BAR GIRL, NORMAL GIRL ETC...marriage is spiritual not materialistic...

If you keep on thinking..ooh i met her in a bar, will she dump me later for money because she is a bar girl...your marriage will end as many mongers here are predicting, just by thinking differently and in a spiritual way will do wonders for your marriage.

Its up to you really to shape your relationship anyway you want. Her background of being a bar girl does not matter at all as long as you think in the right way.

Good luck to you.....i would say just go for it...if you have taken a thoughtful decision and you feel for it.

Nothing personal folks, i may have touched some sensitive issues, but it is not directed at any particular person. peace out no fighting on opinions :)

Whats the difference with a bar gal or a bar fly in the west? A bar gal here gets paid for what she does for a job. Feeds the family, the kids, and the people that don't have money in the family. The western party gal, bar fly, or whatever you call her, just fucks at will, at the drop of a hat for a drink or dinner. They give the ass away for free, they all run there mouth and often are nasty and rude. I never had a gal embarrass me anywhere in the PI. Most all would not get drunk enough to ever be a problem. The gals in the states act an ass most nights out and that's 4-5-7 nights a week. What ya saying, that's the right girl to bring home and wed and try to keep happy?

Who will you have more respect for? Girls are girls all over the world but remember this, they are all smarter than we are. If you treat the relationship with respect don't monkey around you can have a great relationship with any gal. Most put to much emphasis on the bar part, so she worked in a bar big deal. What about the western gal "again" fucking at will with whoever walks in the door? I am sure most bar gals will not do that, any smart bar gal only goes out of the bar with who she wants to. Its not a forced situation in most cases, so they do who they want and as often as they want.

I am sure a person "female" from any country would not like to be treated like a dog anywhere.

QUOTE,
Here western mongers will always pick on the negative side of things and then would happily relate it to money, money, money...everything starts and ends with money for them.

I am sure some of that is because they know how we are. Most gals here know we are the easiest to push over. We have more compassion and bigger wallets than most have. Who is a better find the old US guy getting 2-3 -k a month or the guy that spends a week 2 times a year from somewhere else. That's a no brain-er, eat rice every day or just 1-2 times a year??? Could be we are more gullible than other places. Pick the one you want but we do pay the freight. The greenback still tops the other currencies in most cases. Yes you are right we do talk money lots of the time but so do others that have more than a buck or two. Unless you have a printing press or a pipeline from some arms sale business you gotta keep up on the money. It also makes a difference if you get a small pension verses the big timer that has liquid cash in a bank. Most guys live on a budget and have to stay inside that budget every month.


QUOTE,

Why would you not love to have a big large family, the western mongers will counter it by saying you will be the family ATM for all, agree, but you would also be the one who would get number 1 respect among all, you would also be the decision maker unlike if you have a western wife who would take all your money yet not listen to you. why haven't anyone mentioned this to you ?


In most cases this is true about being the big shot and the respect. Please don't think this is most of the time because its not. Some here don't care about anything but what they can skim out of the foreign guy. They scam and slither trying to get every peso the poor fool has. And they use there little gal for leverage in the plan.

Its a hard spot to be in for any gal with the relathives asking cash,food,drinks, and everything else they think they need.

Remember these are the same nice Fathers and mothers that send the little girl away to work in a bar so THEY can live better. This is not a western,eastern anything its a way of life we all have to deal with. I have seen as many fools from the states as I have from every other dot on a map acting good and bad.

Please don't think so one sided when you are talking about the west. I seem to recall most of the Indians and others taking there little piece of the action in the states. I am also sure they are sending GREEN MONEY back to that wonderful place you call home. Its like talking about the farmer with your mouth full. IT DONT WORK...



B.B.

[Yella Man]

Warm, soft, fresh and tasty cookies straight from the factory! And if you don't like the flavor visit a different factory to see what they're baking! You have a point X.

YM

[X Man]

Barba, Vaq, and FF, thanks for the interesting posts.

I loved the cookie jar analogy, but couldn't help changing it.

Why should I buy the cookie jar, when I can visit the cookie factory anytime I want?

X

[Yella Man]

The expensive ones are usually the ones who have relatives in US, who have been spoilt with gifts from realtivces returning and ho generally look on peope from US ( as in all Westerners) as those with money.

There are then those who are well travelled with " old money" and have been ussed to a certain lifestyle.

And then there are those with excellent values who dont care for materialism and dont try and download your wealth.

Its tough when they are tarred with same brush, or maybe Im lucky to have a mother in law who has her own life and doesnt need to move in with me, who has never so much as once asked for money etc. They do exist ......they are not all the same.

Painted with the same brush they are Freebiefan! Mostly because the men doing the painting usually meet all their girls in the same type of venue such as the bar scene, and we all know after a girl has been in the scene for a while she picks up some very bad habits. I've meet a number of non-bargirls who wouldn't take my money or even let me buy them anything of great value while out browsing the malls. Nor have they requested any money for a mysterious illness that has struck them or some one else in their family after I had left the Phils. Good girls like that do exist there. I'm almost ashamed to take advantage of such sweet girls. But they seem to enjoy the attention so I keep doing what I do...and loving every second of it! If I were the marrying type, I'd have been married several times over to some of the sweeties I have met during my travels. But why buy the Cookie Jar when I can remove the lid and take a cookie any time I want to?

Always on the Quest

Yella Man

[FreebieFan]

I just got off the phone not along ago with customer service for my mobile phone provider.

I'm a little preoccupied, so I didn't pick up the inflection at first, but it turned out that I was talking to a filipina. Though I don't speak the language, I do like the accent.

Anyway, she started talking to me about visiting the islands -- namely, Boracay, Bohol and Palawan -- and asking me my age and my height, etc. She told me she's 22 and 5'7" and a former model.

After our call, at my request, she texted me her phone number.

I'm about ready to exhaust all my vacation time on family business, so my dick won't be reaching there anytime soon. But it's strange how quickly they'll come out with that.

Is all the pussy from that part of the world tasty? That's been my experience so far.

Seems to me if you get U.S. women who are freaky in bed, it's likely because they were molested as children. Very common. That's the pillow talk I've gotten. Very dramatic.

Meanwhile, the filipinas seem naturally horny, but they descend upon your cash and assetts like a storm of locusts. And soon enough, you have a whole houseful of jabbering bug-eaters. But in its own way, it can be rather serene.

I told this girl that I'd dated a filipina before, but following tradition, it was a matter of weeks before she was talking about moving her mother in with us.

"Oh, we're very expensive," she said.

The expensive ones are usually the ones who have relatives in US, who have been spoilt with gifts from realtivces returning and ho generally look on peope from US ( as in all Westerners) as those with money.

There are then those who are well travelled with " old money" and have been ussed to a certain lifestyle.

And then there are those with excellent values who dont care for materialism and dont try and download your wealth.

Its tough when they are tarred with same brush, or maybe Im lucky to have a mother in law who has her own life and doesnt need to move in with me, who has never so much as once asked for money etc. They do exist ......they are not all the same.

[Vaquero]

I just got off the phone not along ago with customer service for my mobile phone provider.

I'm a little preoccupied, so I didn't pick up the inflection at first, but it turned out that I was talking to a filipina. Though I don't speak the language, I do like the accent.

Anyway, she started talking to me about visiting the islands -- namely, Boracay, Bohol and Palawan -- and asking me my age and my height, etc. She told me she's 22 and 5'7" and a former model.

After our call, at my request, she texted me her phone number.

I'm about ready to exhaust all my vacation time on family business, so my dick won't be reaching there anytime soon. But it's strange how quickly they'll come out with that.

Is all the pussy from that part of the world tasty? That's been my experience so far.

Seems to me if you get U.S. women who are freaky in bed, it's likely because they were molested as children. Very common. That's the pillow talk I've gotten. Very dramatic.

Meanwhile, the filipinas seem naturally horny, but they descend upon your cash and assetts like a storm of locusts. And soon enough, you have a whole houseful of jabbering bug-eaters. But in its own way, it can be rather serene.

I told this girl that I'd dated a filipina before, but following tradition, it was a matter of weeks before she was talking about moving her mother in with us.

"Oh, we're very expensive," she said.

[Member #4491]

"Marriage is an old religious relic that has no relevance to defining a happy twosome."

Even the ROD software/editor agrees! :-D Now who can argue with that?

All the best from Barba