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11-09-09 03:41 #1199
Posts: 98Nogales 11/7/2009
I needed to do some shopping in Mexico so I went to Nogi for a quick turn around I couldn't linger around to much because I had a date in the US.
Horrible conditions down there It was a saturday and it looked like a monday it was so quiet I could hear the crickets chirp. The streets are all torn up for different construction jobs, everybody complaning about the economic conditions no money for no one.
The only positive thing about saturday was that everbody has missed me, some thought I had moved away or that something had happened to me. That sure is a fantastic feeling when people actually mis my company. I think I will go down there in a matter of days and spread some wealth around buy them some drinks and put a smile on their faces again.
Price updates:
I was actually offered a street girl for, are you ready for this $200 pesos that's about $15 US if I didn't have a date that evening I might have taken advantage of the situation and tried to find more.
I joked about $15 US girls in Mexico on another forum and never imagined it could ever come true. I will investigate this further for the benefit of my readers. I have a female friend that I am currently seeing and I don't know if or when I might stray.
First I have to say that all the club girls were hounding me for some private action which I turned down.
Quality of girls was very poor across the board.
Obssessions I did not get any prices
Boleiro I was offered girls for $160 FS
Lust $105 FS
Studio 69 I did not visit
Privados and drink prices are the same. Stay away from a really cute slim spinner girl from Obregon in Boleiro she provides lousy privados you can't touch her, she won't take her top off, After a few minutes of banging my head against the wall I told her to get the fuck away from me this is a fucking lousy dance and told her this dance is over so I cut the dance short. She wanted extra tips for everything, that B*TCH. If I want American style dances I would buy them in the US not Mexico.
Don't buy club girls beer they will charge you a double ficha, $20 US for one fucking beer this happened to me in Boleiros.
Be safe...
LOBO
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11-02-09 10:04 #1198
Posts: 10Originally Posted by Rodeo9112
Hotel California is typically $25 to $35 for the entire night, so if you are even considering going beyond 1 hour with a lady (or seeing multiple ladies in one night), it is well worth it.
If you want to use pesos but can't get down there before 7:00ish (not sure exactly when they close, but I am fairly sure it is somewhere between 7:00 & 8:00), there is a 24 hour currency exchange on the US side of the border. You will get better exchange rates if you can get there before the places on the Mexican side close though.
If you read back through the older posts here, you will find lots of reports about the ladies in the clubs wanting far too much money for their services (often $160 or more for an hour). You will get much better pricing ($50 to $100 an hour) from the ladies who work the streets & bars (I have personally visited with a couple of the ladies who hang out at the Regis bar, and I know there are ladies at most of the other bars). They usually start showing up between 8:00 and 9:00).
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11-02-09 08:20 #1197
Posts: 98Originally Posted by Rodeo9112
Obsessions and Bolerio are at the moment the better clubs.
Tues night, what time should I expect the highest number of chicas to be available?
After 9pm and Tuesday are 2 for one drinks
-What is a good restaurant to burn time till things get hopping?
La Roca cateres to americans but away from the street sceen, There are 2 restaurants on opposite ends of the corner on Avenida Obregon one block in from the border, my favaorite is the one with the open air dinning area the other I believe is Rosas. Hotel Regis same street as Obsessions great shrimp cocktails relaxed atmosphere.
-Pesos vs Dollars. Does it matter? Is there a 24 hr place to change money if necessary?
Does it matter yes and no to a spanish speaker probably not to an American absolutely. If you use pesos you can net a savings, but when buying a drink what's a few cents difference. Negotiate chicas in pesos then you can pay in dollars.
They are accustomed in dealing with dollars so if you feel more comfortable using dollars use them.
No 24 hour exchange place but there is a 24 hour pharmacy and they have exchanged money in the past.
- Any directions needed to get to the area with all the bars and clubs after crossing the border? I'm sure the touts will help but I like to avoid them.
Obssessions is one block to your right as you cross the border, all the other clubs are to your left opposite obssessions and across the train tracks, 2 blocks walking distance. Everything you need should be within a 3 block radius to the International border.
- What time does everything shut down at night?
3am
- Can I get the name of a good "by the hour" hotel with a/c if end up with a street girl?
Hotel California rents by the hour and girl friendly, about $15 to $20 US depending on the exchange rate.
- Any touts I should definitely avoid? Ripoffs, annoying, not knowledgable.
Most, seriously no joke, Stay away from the young teenage looking guys, look for older late 20s to early 30s thay are usually more reliable. I won't name any hustlers names only for their protection.
Avoiding them, good luck they are going to follow you like puppies. Give them a $1 once you reach your destination and they will go away.
- It seems like $10 is the going rate for tout assistance. Is that right?
If you want to be generous, normally 1 to 5 bucks. if he treated you well and escorted you all night then $10 is fine. Just don't spoil them. If he gets you a girl the girl pays his commission and your not obligated to pay him nothing, however, it's your call in the end.
LOBO
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11-01-09 21:59 #1196
Posts: 1026Nogales newbie
Greetings fellow deviants! Well, my job has finally sent me for work at a location in the US again; usually I'm down in S. America. I've mongered in Rio, Medellin, Bogota, Dominican Republic and Panama (as well as Amsterdam and Tokyo). In my younger days, about 10yrs ago, I mongered in Tijuana and Acuna; once each. Both showed promise, but my inexperience didn't allow me to take full advantage.
So, inpreparing for my trip to Tucson, I pulled out a map and looked for the closest border town. Bringing me to your sleepy town of Nogales. In doing my research here, I am encouraged that it is at least worth a visit.
Seems that Obsessions and Bolerio are must sees, but I have a few preguntas.
- I'm going on Tues night, what time should I expect the highest number of chicas to be available?
- What is a good restaurant to burn time till things get hopping?
- Pesos vs Dollars. Does it matter? Is ther a 24 hr place to change money if necessary?
- Any directions needed to get to the area with all the bars and clubs after crossing the border? I'm sure the touts will help but I like to avoid them.
- What time does everything shut down at night?
- Can I get the name of a good "by the hour" hotel with a/c if end up with a street girl?
- Any touts I should definitely avoid? Ripoffs, annoying, not knowledgable.
- It seems like $10 is the going rate for tout assistance. Is that right?
I apologize if these topics are covered already, but I'm still researching and just found out about the trip 2 days ago. Thanks for the good reports and in advance for your assistance!
Rodeo
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11-01-09 21:51 #1195
Posts: 98Mexican phrases
I translated these Mexican phrases for a post in Mexicali and thought the Nogales board could benefit.
Hola...Hi
Como estas...How are you
Te ves bien...You look nice
Hablas ingles (pronouced Ablas) do you speak english
Hablo un poco de espanol (pronounced Ablo...espaniol) I speak little spanish
Hablame despasio ( Ablame)...can you speak very slowly
Quieres cojer...would you like to have sex.
Cuanto...how much
Por cuanto tiempo...for how much time
Tienes novio...Do you have a boy friend
Vamonos al hotel...Let's go to my hotel now
Quieres ir conmigo...Do you want to go with me?
Puedes venir conmigo a mi cuarto en el hotel..can you come with me to my hotel room.
Puedo ver tu senos (chichis, tatas, tetas)...can i see your tits
Hablame eroticamente ( Ablame)...can you talk dirty while doing
Chupas sin condon...do you give Bj without condom
Puedo acabar en tu boca...can i finish in your mouth
Te tragas mi lechita...do you swallow
Cuanto mas para tomar (comer) mi lechita...how much extra to swallow
Chupame la verga (pene)...suck my dick
Tomatelo todo...deep throat it
Escupe en mi pene (verga)...spit on my dick
Chupalo despasio...suck it slowly
Me agrada...That feels good
Tocame...Touch me
Desnudate( also encuerate)...Can you get naked
Desnudate para mi...Get naked for me
Mete tu dedo en mi culo...I want your finger in my butthole
Tienes condon...Do you have a condom
Que rico tu chupada...I like how you suck/lick me
Mamame mis huevos...suck my balls
Quiero mamar tu chichis (senos tatas ,tetas)...I want to suck your titties
Tragate mi lechita..I want you to swallow my ***.
Te gusta por atras (de perito)...Do you like it from behind
Te gusta en el culo (anal)...Do you like it up the ***
Quieres tener sexo...Do you want to have sex
Lamame el culo...lick my ass
Lamame mi tetillas...lick my nipples
Masturbame con las manos...can you give me a hand job
Besame...Kiss me
Cojeme...fuck me
Cojeme despasio...fuck me slowly
Alto, no quiero acabar tan pronto...stop, i don't want to cum so soon
Con cuantos chicos as cojido (as tenido sexo)...how many guys have you fucked
Hazes el examen por el sida (Aazes)...do you take aids test
Que te gusta que te agan sexualmente...what do you like to do (sexually)
Te quedas todo la noche conmigo...can you spend the night with me
Banate commigo (pronounced Baniate)...take a bath with me
A que hora de gusta ir al amaneser (en la manana)...what time in the morning would you like to leave
At Hotel:
Puedo traer chicas...can i bring girls
Hay chicas aqui ( Hay is pronounced Iee)...do you have girls here
Cuanto por un cuarto...how much for a room
Some of the H's are silent and some N's have a line over them and are pronounced different. I hope this helps some.
LOBO
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10-26-09 07:18 #1194
Posts: 98Rules of the Game
When a girl wants to fuck you over she will do it. From the worst to the best there's always a time when we get shafted. It's just a sad fact of the game.
Here are some helpful Tips:
..................................Finding a Flayero:...........................................
1. Always be leary of the people you meet and Never trust anyone new.
They are quick to befriend you and even quicker to rip you off.
2. Find a " Flayero" (official name for street hustlers, touts,) that you can
half ways trust.
3. Build a friendship with your Flayero, the better he knows you the better
he will treat you and not shaft you. If he is new to you be extremely
cautious with your transaction. Don't always use his service in the
beginning. Make him earn your respect and you will be a valued client.
4. Always use the same Flayeros you have used before. This builds
commraderie
5. Always look for familiar faces.
6. Test your Flayero, don't always accept the girl he brings you
7. Never show him your money
8. Always ask how much for services.
9. Always counter first offer
10. Explain to him what you expect from the girl he brings you.
11. Tell him to explain to the girl what you expect out of her. This applies
to English speakers
12. Always make the deal before you go to the hotel
13. Ask who pays his tip you or the girl. Normally the girl pays his tip but
some want it comming and going, so be clear. If he wants a tip from you
also $5 US to $10 US is normal.
14. Never hand him payment for the girls service and if you tip him do so
after your had your fun.
15. Be cool and don't act like a giddy virgin going to pop his cherry for the
very first time.
16. Have fun
....................................Dealing with girls directly:...............................
Most girls don't speak english and therefore you will have to rely on your Flayero or a translator.
1. Ask how much for service, in the TD club it's called "cuanto por
paquete" (How much for the package deal). Outside the clubs
ask "cuanto por cojer' (how much to fuck) or simply "cuanto" ( how
much) English speakers when dealing just say SEXO. These tips are
primarily for independant girls which also includes club girls, but not in
the club.
2. Always counter her first offer, just don't be cheap (Codo in spanish),
after all she is worth something
3. Negotiate untill you both reach an agreement. If you go to your hotel
room blind without a firm price set you might be in for a rude awakening.
I've tried it this way to see what would happen and they fucking
shocked me what they wanted but I managed to BS my way down to
a cheaper price. Some americans can get away with this because of the
language barrier, be nice and hand them some reasonable money, how
can they argue they don't speak english just be fair guys.
4. Can't reach an agreement, cut her loose and part ways. Find someone
else.
5. Ask what services she will perform, most do everthing but some have
their limits and dislikes. So if you need something specific Ask.
6. Ask how much time do you get, if you need a specific time frame ask.
In my case I always ask for 1 1/2 hours that way I get 2 hours. They
loose track of time at 1 1/2 hours, their minds are programed for 1 hour.
7. Discuss hotel arrangements, make sure they know where to meet
8. Expect them to be late, most don't show up untill 30 or so minutes later,
don't wait after that, find someone else. However, you always be on
time. If she does show up on time they will only wait 2 to 3 minutes
and then leave.
9. Don't pay them up front, if they want it up front send them away and
find someone else. Always pay at the end of the session this
way it keeps them honest and you satisfied. Most girls will stay once in
the room.
10. Be in control of the hotel action, the more submissive you make her the
better time you have. In mexico the girls are used to the guy being
macho so be a man, but be polite.
11. Treat the girls with respect and kindness and they will do likewise
12. Do the deed and have fun.
On a side note if you like BBBJs or bareback my experience shows me not to ask for it. When your naked and prepared to do the deed you can ask for it then and she might oblidge. If you absoluetly need it that way you will have a very hard time finding it. My batting average for BBBJs is 8 out of 10 girls and bareback 6 out of 10 girls. I never ask for BBBJs but I do ask for bareback after my BJ. Anal is for the most part taboo, of course some will do it.
I hope these TIPs can be helpful in your search for adult recreation
Be safe...
LOBO
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10-21-09 10:18 #1193
Posts: 10Unpleasant night for me in Nogales
Just got back from a Nogales trip, and I have to say it is the first trip I have actually regretted making.
I got into Nogales just after 6:00 PM on Tuesday evening and got a room at the Hotel California (behind Boleiros). My second time there, and it is a decent place for the price ($30). I relaxed for a bit, then headed out to find some company. I walked past several overly aggressive touts until I found one (said his name was Armando) who was was not too aggressive and spoke reasonable English. I told him I wanted a girl to take back to my room, and he said he could hook me up for $50 for an hour, provided I was willing to buy him a beer at a little bar (Patron Bar or something like that. Between Boleiros and the Eros Spa) while we waited for the girl to show up (it was about 7:45 PM, and he said he knew several girls that usually get there about 8:00).
I figured what the hell, and bought beers for both of us. While we were waiting, he gave me this spiel about how he wanted me to trust him and work only with him, and to look for him any time I come to Nogales, etcetera (his spiel would have made me very nervous if I had even been considering letting him and/or the girl supply the room).
At 8:00 on the dot, a girl named Leslie walked in and he called her over. She was fairly attractive (I'd rate her about a 7), and seemed very pleasant (but spoke no English). She asked if she could use my shower before we started, and when I said OK, she quickly agreed to the $50 for an hour. Armando then asked for a tip, and I gave him a $10 (smallest I had after buying the beers).
Leslie and I then went to my room. She took a 10 minute shower, then came out naked and ready to play. Or so I thought. She asked for the money before we started, and I agreed since she was standing there naked. I then stripped myself, and she started to give me a BBJ. After about 3 minutes, she got up and put a condom on me, then lay on her back with her ass on the edge of the bed and indicated she wanted me to stand and fuck her. Any time I attempted to do anything more (such as touch her breasts), she tensed up and went completely still. This lasted about 5 minutes, after which she started saying I was too big for her (I can only assume she was referring to my waistline, as that is the only part of me that is not within the average size range). She refused to do anything more, including returning any of my money since I didn't get the full hour. She finally agreed to let me watch her play with herself for a few minutes while I handled myself (it was the only way I could think of to try and get at least some of my money's worth).
All told, she was in my room for about 30 minutes, and that includes the time she spent in the shower.
Unfortunately, I only had another $40 with me (didn't bring more, as it would have only tempted me to break the $60 rule), so I could not afford another girl.
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10-18-09 20:14 #1192
Posts: 4Originally Posted by Blews69
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10-13-09 10:22 #1191
Posts: 98Osiris
BLEWS69,
From what the owner has told me, is that they are open most of the daylight hours and close early evening 7 to 8 pm. Reason for this is they have better traffic during the day as opposed to the night.
They do outcall service as well and one of the guys speaks fairly good english, ask for Daniel.
They are good friends of mine and they will take good care of you.
LOBO
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10-13-09 01:44 #1190
Posts: 4Osiris massage
Thanks for the great information Lobo I never heard of this place before and I'll definitely pay them a visit and post a report once my mission is complete later this week. Do you happen to know the hours of Osiris and if not speaking Spanish will be a big problem?
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10-12-09 02:07 #1189
Posts: 98Originally Posted by Blews69
These guys are accustomed to my $60 RULE, try it you might be surprised.
Stay away from Eros massage they treat Americans as if their pockets are lined with gold.
Be safe...
LOBO
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10-10-09 19:33 #1188
Posts: 4Massage Parlor Info
Will be heading down to Noggie next week to play. I saw Lobo's post about a massage parlor next to the Olivia Hotel on Obregon. It looks like it closes pretty early 7 or 8 in the evening. I was wondering if it is walkable from the border and the prices in general. I've been to Eros a couple to times and lately they have really nice talent but it is way too expensive for Mexico. I also checked out La Conga back in July. That place has really turned into a dump. They had 2 girls. I took the fat Mayan chica for a ride. The room did not have a fan in July. The chick was sweating her butt off after FS. And she would not perform the massage as promised because it was so hot in the room. I'm going to stay away from La Conga. Too bad I've been going to this place off and on for more than 20 years. My first visit was when I was a horny GI back in the mid-80's.
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09-24-09 15:43 #1187
Posts: 69RE: Unexpected GREAT time at Guau Guau
I think you posted this in the wrong location -your probably looking for the ROCKY POINT spot.
You might want to repost it there
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09-23-09 02:58 #1186
Posts: 2Unexpected GREAT time at Guau Guau
Got into RP late on Monday night but wasn’t ready to settle down so I headed over to Guau Guau. There was only 6 girls working, all were in the 6 – 8 range, which I won’t complain about for a Monday night.
Private dances were $20 for two songs, better than the $26 bucks for ¾ of a song that was the going rate back in the day when RP clubs used to be busy. With few other customers for most of 3.5 hours I was there, I became a personal friend with the guy who sells the private dances. Don’t remember his name so I’ll call him Jr.
My first dance was with Angela from Guadalajara – a sexy little light skinned Latina. Said she was 19 and I believe it – totally in the spirit of a Barely Legal video, naughty schoolgirl outfit and all. She played the pouty bit*h, which she did it pretty well. The dance was fine, but there was a clear message that it would take more than one dance to get to the good stuff so I decided to call it quits after the first dance. The chemistry just wasn't there for me.
Made a point to tip all the dancers on stage. I find this is the best way to get a feel for their personalities. Had the most fun with Carla, who has an exotic look to her. Slightly Asian eyes, full – big sexy lips, great tits, a flat tummy and a nice athletic ass. On stage, she was almost shy, but at the same time was fun to watch on the pole, doing a lot of anti-gravity tricks, and always laughing and joking with the other dancers who sat around the stage.
After her dance, she came out with this Egyptian push-up tit clip that covered only her nipples, and an almost non-existent g-string. WOW! Yes, she could sit down and talk. She spoke great English. I bought another dance ticket instead of the stupid $20 drink so that Jr. would leave us alone. Continuing to be ‘shy’, she sat down beside me instead of on me. I learned that her favorite sunscreen is something called ‘Ocean Potion’, but that she also likes to pour beer over herself and let it soak in while she tans. According to Yahoo, this doesn’t work, but it sounded good to me! Also learned that performing on the pole is her exercise because it gives her a full body workout.
Ok...time to use the dance ticket. She started out with the same shy personality and lots of teasing, just like Angela. I’m sure this is a well-used technique to sell more dances. The difference was, Carla’s laughing and playful personality worked for me better than Angela’s pouty routine. By the end of the second song, she was starting to get into it, with not so much laughing and more eyes-closed grinding. When Jr. came back and asked if I wanted one more, she immediately answered for me. Kinda aggressive, but for only another $20, I didn't complain.
The next two songs were all about her. She found her spot, her pace and grinded on me for minutes on end. Not to complain, but it got to the point where it was starting to hurt in more ways than one. It’s been awhile since I had a girl tremble and shake on my leg like that…it was awesome.
Jr. comes back again and asks if I want one more. Again, she says yes, but she’s facing me and she leans down and whispers “this one’s for you”. She talks to Jr. in Spanish and they get into a little squabble. Finally he leaves and she says “he will give us extra time for this one.” I say “that’s fine, but then you have to let me make an adjustment because I am really uncomfortable. She didn’t know what I meant so I undid the buttons on my shorts. She went back into the shy-girl routine - laughing and all embarrassed. I jokingly told her “this is not my fault, it’s your fault”.
I’ll just say the Carla totally took responsibility for this being ‘her fault’. For the next three songs, she was totally GFE. Not FS but totally fun and completely satisfying. Total damage for the night was $.3, including my drinks and I am a thoughtful tipper.
By the way, Jr. said it was $.1 bar fee plus $ - $.5 for the girl to take the girl out for the 1.5 hours. I was just asking and did not negotiate at that time. I’ll post an update if I find out more.
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09-21-09 22:37 #1185
Posts: 2Well I made it back a few times since I last posted here. Definitely started to follow Lobo's advice and it paid off. After getting tired of paying outrageous prices in the clubs, I started to meet some of the streetwalkers hanging out in front of Bolleiros right by the clocktower. The first one I had was named Sofia. We used the hotel right behind boreillos and is definitely affordable at $15 us for the hour. I went back this past weekend with the intentions of meeting up with her sister who is even hotter, but she was not available. We have always been meeting up with this guy named MarcHello, whenever we come over and he escorts us around and hooks us up with what we need. We don't mind paying him a few bucks to just hook us up and call girls for us and whatnot. So when he told me her sister was not available, he helped us find these 3 other girls that were hanging around the bar across from Leo's restaurant. I ended up getting this 18 year old brunette girl who was beautiful with a great body. Both of these encounters were for Lobo's recommended price of $60. Way better deal than the td bars, plus you actually get privacy in a room. Thanks lobo for showing me the way LOL. My only regret was not getting the 18 year old's name or number to meet up with her again this weekend, as I was a VERY satisfied customer and would have loved to see her again as it will be my last weekend here in AZ until possibly next summer. I would have definitely gotten a TLN with her!
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