Monterrey

[Precocious One]

Uno you started this so I'll add to it. You are correct about Monterrey being expensive to get to, the women are not bargains, and GFE is hard to find. But the things that Monterrey has going for it are the cabs are safe, which is rare, the areas of town where we go are safe to walk in. If you plan ahead the rooms are very reasonable. My favorite thing is the location of all those clubs within such a short distance of each other.

I'm sure there are plenty of venues all over the world that would be great to explore and eventually I will. But Monterrey is quick to get to, not prohibitively expensive, and hasn't disappointed me yet.

To sum it up, it may not be cheap, may not be the best, but it damn sure is user friendly.

If you monger for extended periods at a time, the ability to have a vehicle in Mexico is worth at least $500/month(6650 pesos/approximately 10 sessions) when factoring your budget and comparing other destinations.

I cannot stress enough to anyone that has thought about taking some time off to simply enjoy life and fu_k hot Mexicanas how absolutely ripe the conditions are right now here in Monterrey, MX. Other than three "hickeys" that I currently have on my neck, things have never been better for me in the last three years that I have lived here.

As recently evidenced by Zoom 21's TLN(toda la noche) deal, $1000 pesos($75.00) can go a long way for a guy here in Monterrey, MX.

[Doubt98]

Uno you started this so I'll add to it. You are correct about Monterrey being expensive to get to, the women are not bargains, and GFE is hard to find. But the things that Monterrey has going for it are the cabs are safe, which is rare, the areas of town where we go are safe to walk in. If you plan ahead the rooms are very reasonable. My favorite thing is the location of all those clubs within such a short distance of each other.

I'm sure there are plenty of venues all over the world that would be great to explore and eventually I will. But Monterrey is quick to get to, not prohibitively expensive, and hasn't disappointed me yet.

To sum it up, it may not be cheap, may not be the best, but it damn sure is user friendly.

[Member #3453]

To put everything in proper perspective with respect to comparing Monterrey to Colombia for example...I routinely paid no more than $28 for todo la noche, and on one occasion, the girl even bringing her cousin with her the next night, they showing up on my door step, patrolling outside my rental apartment as they waited for me to arrive back to my apartment one evening.

I rented a very large, fully furnished apartment for no more than about $38 a night, right on the beach mind you. Now, granted, it has been just a few years since I visited Colombia (no more than 5 years). But, the point is, if there's a crisis in Mexico driving down prices, what do you think is occurring in countries whose populations are really poor? So, I would not be surprised to find a similar circumstance there now. But, regardless, I can guarantee that the prices in Monterrey will prove to ultimately be at least 4 times higher than what can be found in Colombia for example for the same level of quality.

$28 for two girls for todo la noche...And, I have friends that own property in Colombia that routinely tell me of their similar exploits, they being able to achieve unbelievable results from the mere offer of a pizza or sandwich to what amounts to a sometimes starving population of young girls that are virtually penniless, some of them sleeping on the beach at night, they jumping at the chance to stretch out on a nice clean bed in the lap of virtual luxury.

Certainly, there are some nice girls to be found in Monterrey, but they will NEVER show up looking for you for anything less than about $60 an hour. And, truthfully, I can count on one hand the numbers of girls that have shown up looking for business, whereas it's standard operating procedure in Colombia, South America, and the whole of Asia.

The point is, it's a totally and completely different level of need in Colombia, or any of the South American Countries, versus Monterrey. The girls in Monterrey are available for P4P, but make no mistake, in comparison to South American prices, you will pay at least, and I mean AT LEAST, three times the cost, you will get one tenth the time spent, and the quality of selection simply does not compare unless you're willing to spend at least 15 times the cost you're used to spending in South America and/or Asia.

And to add insult to injury, in Monterrey you will not receive nearly the level of routine GFE that accompanies a Colombia or Asia kind of experience without significantly working to know the personality of the girl you're with.

Anyone who hopes eternal that they will come to Monterrey and receive the same level of GFE one is used to receiving in South America or Asia, for even ten times what they're used to paying in the notorious venues, is just setting themselves up for disappointment. Sorry to put it so bluntly, but I just cringe at any comparison of Monterrey to some of the notorious destinations. There simply is no comparison, and to expect that the expectations of those that have hybrid expectations will be met for mongers that frequent the notorious venues by coming to Monterrey, is just ludicrous.

Anyone routinely traveling to Colombia and/or South America, or Asia, for that matter, after having experienced that level of GFE, and the "totality" of the sex tourism experience offered in those other venues, in comparing Monterrey, will never, ever be satisfied with the results they will find patronizing one of Monterrey's MPs. That is not to criticize the MP experience, but it's simply an acknowledgment that the type of monger traveling to the notorious venues is looking for a different kind of experience than what is offered in the MPs of Monterrey. There simply is NO comparison between the two.

And, while the strip clubs can result in the same level of experience as what is routinely found in the notorious venues, the cost will be staggering in comparison, and the work involved in getting to know the girl sufficiently to extract a similar GFE experience requires inordinate amounts of time in comparison to the little work that is necessary in the notorious venues.

Word to the wise...To those who are widely traveled with worldly experience...just keep your expectations in perspective, and visit Monterrey with no illusions. Only then will you possibly enjoy your experience in Monterrey. But, honestly, I suspect you will be kind of wishing you were elsewhere as you compare the uncomparable.

For those that live in or routinely frequent Monterrey, and are able to spend significant amounts of time there, their quality of result can be more in tune with a hybrid GFE experience. Such is the case for me, spending sufficient amounts of time to truly cultivate not only a legitimate relationship, but also having become sufficiently intimately familiar with large numbers of girls, thereby yielding for me, and for all others that are regular visitors, or residents of Monterrey, experiences similar to what can be achieved in the notorious worldwide venues, albeit at a cost that's still 3 to 5 times higher than some other venues.

Even with all the advantage we regulars have over the one time, or infrequent visitor, the cost is still significantly higher than what is available in the worldwide notorious venues. I mean, having a legitimate GF is certainly not inexpensive, and apart from the GF, the pros all expect you to pay because, even if you are good friends, they expect you to take care of them. Besides, taking care of them is in your own best interests if you expect to glean the best possible experiences. I always pay, and I always show them I care about them, and I do. However, in most cases, I am able to reduce the costs significantly in relation to time spent, usually, I believe, because I have become a friend, and I am not strictly their client.

But, realistically, were I not in a legitimate relationship, and were I not enjoying a return to Monterrey to visit mis amigos, I would not be choosing to visit Monterrey as often as I do, which amounts to a significant part of my life at this juncture.

But, I have no desire to live in Mexico because my lifestyle in the USA far surpasses what I would be able to achieve in Monterrey. And that's a direct commentary on the high cost of actually living in Monterrey versus most other major US Cities. Simply put, were I strictly interested in achieving the best experiences, I would be off to Rio, Colombia, and had I the time to travel, probably Asia. Without a doubt.

Simply put, for most, the cost to travel to Monterrey is almost as much as if you fly to the Philippines, where if you ever experience that venue, Monterrey will pale so significantly in comparison that you will wonder about your own sanity in ever having considered visiting Monterrey in the first place. It's that stark a contrast.

Lets be honest, people like us who visit Monterrey regularly are not saving one thin dime by limiting our decisions to travel to Monterrey versus other venues. The costs are so significantly less for P4P in the other notorious venues, that the travel costs are so mitigated by those reduced costs, that it is literally no more expensive to travel to the notorious venues than to Monterrey, unless you live close to the border and choose to drive down.

Aside from my own legitimate relationship with a gorgeous, HOT, and unbelievably sexy "Diva," (Amigomio's words), and her absolutely alluring GFE that motivates me back to Monterrey....not to mention my need to check up on Amigomio and jab him with my critique of his methods and strategies (just joking C :-))))) ), and to deliver my famous cookies to he and his harem of girls, the travel time required to go to the notorious venues limits my own present availability to travel to the promised lands.

Apart from my own positive circumstances, and the positive circumstances experienced by those of us who either frequent or live in Monterrey, it would be a disappointing comparison to a whole host of other, much more rewarding venues were our limitations not time related, or directly related to our own personal relationship circumstances.

But, there is the legitimate argument about the allure of Latin girls, something that I have compared to almost all other ethnic categories. For me, there is no better "GF" experience attainable than what I've found in my own legitimate Mexican GF. And, generally speaking, I personally enjoy the personalities and the sensuality of Latin girls much more than the Asian girls.

So, for me, I am choosing to pay for my preferred kind of experience. Unfortunately, I am paying much more than would be necessary had I no legitimate Mexican GF, and had I the additional time and the logistical justification with respect to my business interests to travel more extensively.

Realistically, gleaning the GFE from your legitimate GF, requires you to be as generous to her, costing you more than if you paid for it with pros. But, on the other hand, if your goal is to achieve the most intense GFE possible, being generous with your GF, and showing her your devotion to her, is part and parcel to motivating her own behavior toward you, and such "investment" is absolutely mandatory if you expect reciprical GFE from her, whether she is your wife, a GF, a pro, or a non-pro. The basic elements of motivation exist regardless of which category of girl you're dealing with.

Like some, I am in sort of a holding pattern in Monterrey, and making the best of it. But, make no mistake, my comments about Monterrey are bitter sweet because Monterrey has actually been "bery bery guuud to me."

[Precocious One]

Sorry for the late report but I was busy with Girlfriend.

I spend 1 day in Monterrey before going to see my regular girl in Reynosa, wake Up @ 11:00 am and went to the MP Signore, this is a real chip place and I spend 150 pesos for full service and and extra 100 for a bbbj.

Later the same day went to the MP Romanos and have a full service with a girl name Monserrrat, She was lactating and I have real fun sucking up her jugs, the total cost was 600 pesos which is not bad comparing with the prices I found in Poza Rica.

After taking supper went to the SC Infinito.I was real impress with the place. It has change a lot after my visit 2 years ago. I got a full service upstairs in the small booth for 300 pesos, I don't remember the name of the girl.

After a couple beers I invite a girl to sit with me and I ask her about a TLN deal. She charge 1350 pesos 350 for the club and 1000 for her. Take her to my room and spend the rest of the night with Her. She stays @ 3.00 hrs and it was a real GF service. She was pregnant in an early stage and she was really horny or a real good actress. I reserve her name for myself but if you go this Infinito SC you will find a lot of girls to choose from.

Zoom

Although I hadn't pursued any new P4P in over a month since I have had a non-pro GF occupying my time, the above numbers given by Zoom 21 are what a visiting monger should expect to pay when pursuing sex in Monterrey, MX.

I did happen to step out the other day for the first time in five or so weeks and tried a new location. $700 pesos/hour($52.00 at current exchange) with a strong eight. A worthless massage was followed by attempted BBBJ, attempted BBFS(I believe that she tried to pull me in MISH sin condom), Besos Negros and sincere DFK to COB finish. No tip was ever asked for or mentioned prior to the completion of the session. Two other locations I know of are also offering buy four sessions get one free. A 20 percent discount. This practice was completely unheard of last year. A new place I know of tried to offer $500 pesos/40 minute massage/HJ. Within two months they are now F/S for $500 pesos. From my perspective, the conditions right now are optimum for P4P and have never been better in the last three years that I have lived here in Monterrey.

In my opinion, the economic climate is unequivocally getting worse here. There are no visible "green shoots" and none that I foresee in the immediate future. CRE for lease/sale signs are probably running at a 10 percent rate throughout the city and everyone I talk to states that business is down a minimum of 30 percent(YOY) and has gotten progressively worse in the last two months, synonymous with Mexico's recent unprecedented(other than GD1) cumulative 10 percent GDP decline in Q1&2 of 2009.

For me personally, I believe that $700 pesos($52.00) can get a guy great sex here in Monterrey, MX.

No problem.

As always, established ISG members can PM me for the name and location of the above-mentioned session.

[MonterreyDude]

Captbb.
In 30 years Mexico has changed a lot.

Do not expect it to be as cheap as CR, Colombia or Vene at all.

Do not expect cheap accomodations.

100 dlls over there can get you a Toda la Noche as here, you only get one hour in average.

If you are looking for experiences equivalent to those you can get at Cali, Bogota or Medellin... you won't.

You won't see girls in abundance as in those places nor as in the numbers that can be found there.

Monterrey does not cater to monger tourism as Bogota or Brazil.

Girls are hot, but in Monterrey, girls are not as desperate for money as their Central America and Southern American counterparts.

So expect surcharges to a regular rate to get whatever comes to your mind.

I have not been to Mexico in over 30 yesrs.

I dogo to CR, Colombia and Vevezual often.

Scecure parking overnight or best.

I going to drive this trip.

I can't fly broke leg thing to do regarding car.

[Precocious One]

I have not been to Mexico in over 30 yesrs.

I dogo to CR, Colombia and Vevezual often.

Scecure parking overnight or best.

I going to drive this trip.

I can't fly broke leg thing to do regarding car.

Hello Captbb,

Make sure that you pick up MX auto insurance once you cross the border. You may also want to pay for a MX car permit(around $20.00) as the policia can theoretically impound your car if you do not register it at customs(I have never had a problem in the four years, off and on, that I have lived in MX). Also, if you have a BofA ATM card, they won't charge you a fee if you use Santander Bank. The ATM's also give the best exchange rates that are generally three to four percent better than the money exchange centers or banks.

Send me a PM if you need any recommendations of Casa de Cita girls. I have six or seven that I can refer to you that provide excellent service.

PS

Last week, the Holiday Inn Express(1-800-000-04-04/52-81-8125-4600x170) had a sign out that was claiming a weekday promotion of buy one get one free. I don't know if it meant a free night as I never checked it out. It is on the corner of Ave. Colon and Idelfonso Vasquez and is conveniently located close to the majority of strip clubs and Casa de Citas in Monterrey Centro.

[Captbb]

I have not been to Mexico in over 30 yesrs.

I dogo to CR, Colombia and Vevezual often.

Scecure parking overnight or best.

I going to drive this trip.

I can't fly broke leg thing to do regarding car.

[Zoom 21]

Sorry for the late report but I was busy with Girlfriend.

I spend 1 day in Monterrey before going to see my regular girl in Reynosa, wake Up @ 11:00 am and went to the MP Signore, this is a real chip place and I spend 150 pesos for full service and and extra 100 for a bbbj.

Later the same day went to the MP Romanos and have a full service with a girl name Monserrrat, She was lactating and I have real fun sucking up her jugs, the total cost was 600 pesos which is not bad comparing with the prices I found in Poza Rica.

After taking supper went to the SC Infinito.I was real impress with the place. It has change a lot after my visit 2 years ago. I got a full service upstairs in the small booth for 300 pesos, I don't remember the name of the girl.

After a couple beers I invite a girl to sit with me and I ask her about a TLN deal. She charge 1350 pesos 350 for the club and 1000 for her. Take her to my room and spend the rest of the night with Her. She stays @ 3.00 hrs and it was a real GF service. She was pregnant in an early stage and she was really horny or a real good actress. I reserve her name for myself but if you go this Infinito SC you will find a lot of girls to choose from.

Zoom

[MonterreyDude]

Thank you Woody.

Check the map, see where the Sheraton is located in reference to the clubs.

Beware of the clubs close by, like Reno and Spugna.

Both are expensive tourist traps.

And if you have any questions, just place them here.

Wow, that's great! A map like yours is a perfect aid to get around. (And, as mentioned elsewhere, to keep taxi drivers on track :-) I'm really curios about MTY.

Thanks’ again for you help, Amigomio!

[Woody53]

Wow, that's great! A map like yours is a perfect aid to get around. (And, as mentioned elsewhere, to keep taxi drivers on track :-) I'm really curios about MTY.
Thanks’ again for you help, Amigomio!

Woody, this is my Monterrey map:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...8836&z=14&om=0

It's a Google map I've been composing.
Includes MPs, SCs and hotels (Sheraton included).

One thing is that it seems you haven't been to Monterrey.
Monterrey is a big city, with no Red Zone.

As you see in the map, everything is spread all over.

Check it out and if you have any questions, please ask them.

[Member #3453]

Basically, if you were familiar with the old Givenchy, they just knocked the wall out between the two, taking the bar area out of what was the South Wall of El Infinito. You can now gaze from what used to be the confines of El Infinito into the expanded side which was formerly the Old Givenchy. The room where the Old Givenchy used to be is almost like it's been untouched. The stage in the same place, the stairway up the to the Old Givenchy privados is still in the same place, the seating arrangement is basically the same, etc...

But, it struck me kind of Twilight Zone-ish, seeing exact remnants of the Old Givenchy as you gaze from the Infinito side, and simultaneously coming to the realization that the Old Givenchy will never be again, but that it still exists there visually as it once was. Weird!!!

Oh, it was never really a great resource, the Old Givenchy...It was very iffy, but sometimes offered an occasionally surprisingly good bar fine. I felt a kind of melancholy when scoping it out perhaps wondering if what I was seeing is the end of an era.

I've also missed the resource that the now closed "New" Givenchy offered. If you compare the resources offered by the lower end club scene, it sort of seemed as though the pool of options might have started to dry up a little bit compared to ten years ago, when I first started coming to Monterrey.

But, optimistically, I am extremely impressed with the options offered at Parthenon, a former sh*thole of a place. The girls at Parthenon are quite inexperienced with respect to their knowing their business, very young (almost scarily so), thin, HOT, willing, and cheap. It, along with some spill over that seems to have occurred at Tangalay from the closing of the New Givenchy, seems to have given us a kind of renewal along the Villa Gran Gauntlet with respect to the low end bar scene.

However, I just have to comment that, while what I see at Parthenon lately has me impressed, I am suspicious that the girls working there will not last long. When a bar engages in it's kind of violations of minimum employee eligibility standards, it could quite seriously jeopardize their license to do business. So, it would not surprise me if Parthenon regressed to it's old self in relatively short order as an act of self preservation.

Getting back to MTY, I definitely need to get down and see the expanded Infinito. I'm hoping they're getting lots of tasty new talent for their new stage.

[Super Gato]

Sheraton Ambassador at the downtown hotel district.
Very good hotel.

Not quite close to the action, but girl friendly, yes.

After that one, there are many good ones, but none accept female company within their premises.

I've stayed at the Sheraton several times and for a girl friendly hotel, there isn't much better. Still, of course you must use discretion as it is a family hotel and 99% of the guests aren't mongers.

As one of the major hotels in the area instead of having regular taxis with meters, there are special hotel taxis which are in nicer, larger sedans with AC, but they cost more. I found if you exit the hotel to the right and walk toward the Metro station at the end of the pedestrian mall (see Amigomio's map) you'll run into a taxis that will take you to the bars on Villagran for a fraction of the price. (regardless of taxi type, many drivers will feign not knowing where places like Infinito are and will try and steer you toward a high-end strip club... these guys know where Infinito is. They'll say these bars are dangerous but they aren't. Don't fall for their tricks the high-end fleece joint pay them for delivering guys to their establishment).

[Super Gato]

There have been so many girls that have orgasmed, and I forgot about them five minutes after the door hit them in the butt on the way out, strictly mechanical sex, nothing special...I mean, we males always cum, right?

Whereas, there are a number of others that did not orgasm, but I remember them vividly as GFE. I repeat with them often, whether they orgasm or not.

I can get mechanical sex anywhere, and watch them orgasm, shutter, and shiver, all day long...

Whether she comes or not my number one criteria is her enthusiasm and what she puts into my orgasm. Just like a good girlfriend would do. Again, if she's a civilian I'm going to go out of my way to make her see god.

My current Nuevolaredense favorita gives me a great PSE every time. Her energy and enthusiasm and he desire to get me off is how she gets my repeat business (and her smoking hot body and looks). She often comes as well but I never forget that she's in the room to collect the pesos I leave on her dresser. She knows I act as a gentleman (versus the kids in her age group) and treat her like a lady and she'll often get off with me, but her investment in me is because doesn't want to lose me to her sisters in the club (not really a worry lately has she is far and away the hottest girl... and her sister does literally work in the same club but not nearly as hot...now her prima, that's another story). She knows I poke other girls when I'm in town and is alright with that, but she knows how to keep me coming back for more.

My favorite reason for mongering is to find new girls. I'll like having favoritas everywhere I visit in case I hit a town when there aren't girls up to my standards. Some on these boards hate the scene at f*ck shops like Adelita and Hong Kong but that's what I love and I can tell before I get upstairs if she's going to cogerme con gusto or just going to lay there like a stuck up *****.

Getting back to MTY, I definitely need to get down and see the expanded Infinito. I'm hoping they're getting lots of tasty new talent for their new stage.

[MonterreyDude]

Woody, this is my Monterrey map:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...8836&z=14&om=0

It's a Google map I've been composing.
Includes MPs, SCs and hotels (Sheraton included).

One thing is that it seems you haven't been to Monterrey.
Monterrey is a big city, with no Red Zone.

As you see in the map, everything is spread all over.

Check it out and if you have any questions, please ask them.

Thanks for the hint Amigo mio. Sheraton looks good.

I've read a lot of posts, but I didn't find much advice where to go. So were to start? Other web sources don't give advice either. Is there a red light area. (like Bangkok or Pattaya?)

Thanks again,

Woody

[MonterreyDude]

Strip Club Updates.

Givenchy has permantly closed.
The Old Givenchy has been merged with the Infinito to use the stage as a third one, making Infinito an enormous club now.

Partenon is still the same ugly club as always, but together with Tangalay, both have benefited of the closing of both Old and New Givenchys.

Partenon still has the same setting, a 3 pronged stage, old style tables, smelly booths, but the girl manifest is impressive.
Tons of girls, not many to my liking (we Mexicans have engrained in our genes a caste system that sees the kind of girls working here as bottom of the barrel kind) but anyway, tons of options.

And cheap salida/barfine too.

One thing is true about all the big medium priced clubs like Casino, Bahamas, Pasarelas, Harem, Infinito and Partenon.
All are boasting lineups of 40-50 girls now.

Incredible.