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  1. #823
    I decided to use my Japanese and call up a DH again, but this time, I specifically chose one myself meaning I didn't come across a review here. To protect the identity of the people and the company involved, I will call them Club CV.

    I rang them up and asked is it okay for a korean to use their service and they said it depends. I told them I'm Korean american and they said sure. Because I didn't want to pay for something I'm not sure if I'm being set up on, I chose the cheapest course (45mins for 12-13k). I do not get the option to choose the girl (though I almost could have; some other guy blurted to the receptionist that 45min course doesn't entail such). Well, I said as long as the photos on the website are true, then dare de mo ii. The site had girls from 18-24. They said it is and the girl will arrive in an hour if thats ok. Gave them my contact and location.

    An hour later, I don't get a call but a knock on my door. Its the girl (who I will call 'M'). She asked is she in the right home because she was supposed to meet a korean. I said yea. She was a little suprised (as was I. She was tiny but freaking hot as hell. Gyaru-kei type but her skin was white). She said I look too Japanese so she couldn't tell. I laughed and let her in.

    We discussed the rate. Initially, I had decided on 45 mins but she was too hot to pass up so I went with 60min course. Paid her and went to shower together. She had small tits (a Japanese B-cup which is small). While showering, I asked the question about gaijin: whats her/companies opinion and how receptive. She said caucasian gaijin was zettai dame (not at all = no can do). She said people frown upon them, especially the young DH girls. Probably due to fear of diseases, smell and a caucasians sense of entitlement, she thinks. I think that for the last part, she means the caucasians always think that J-girls are easy but really, they are not, and that such gaijins usually set themselves up for a world of hurt with that expectation. Furthermore, she thinks that caucasians think they can come to Japan and have sex with any J-girl because they think J-girls dig them. But they rarely do. I, too, notice that whenever you see a caucasian with a J-girl. I'm sorry, but its usually the not-so-pretty ones. Sames goes for black guys, she said. I said why am I ok since I'm gaijin. She said I look too Japanese to worry and generally, the girls don't have a problem with Chinese and Korean as long as they are clean and proper; not to be racist but another analogy is not someone dressed in a Mao suit (mainland Chinese/ North korean) or otakuppoi (Starcraft obsessed South Koreans). I laughed at that that and she asked why did I ask. I told her I hear many gaijins get refused and she said that thats just usually the caucasians and for the said reason. However, she said it appears older woman (mid to late 30s and older) don't seem to care. But I guess by that stage, they shouldn't hahaha.

    We talked a bit more while drying up. She said I looked young, even though my age is a lot older (28 versus 23, hehe). She was 19/20 years old. Though the site said she's 18. We laughed and she said companies do that sometimes to entice people. We laughed some more and headed to bed.

    Hopped on and first thing she asks is what should we do. I just began DFK but she stopped and said lets honban. I'm like what? ! ? ! (in a positive sense. I was shocked that the girl would suggest it). I asked if its ok and she said yea. Just don't tell the company or anyone that works for the company. I said yarashii hahaha. She just laughed. DATY first and she was so into it, moaning and breathing quite heavily. Switched up to te-man. Got her wet but couldn't make her cum. She switched over to BBBJ and was very eager for FS. Even I had to slow her down hahaha. She laughed. Started missionary and her pussy was super tight (she was a tiny girl after all). Switch over to cowgirl. Tried back but it was difficult as she was tiny and I'm tall (181cm). Decided missionary again and then finished with tegoki.

    After that, showered and. Took pictures! She said don't post them (which I won't here) as pictures are supposed to cost but she didn't mind so long as its between her and I. I also got her keitai email. Talked some more about life and about appearance (how I'm oni-kei, gyaruo-like, in appearance; how shes cute and shit). She was dumped recently (not sure over what but I think I can guess) by her bf. I told her I broke up half a year ago. She said its sad eh? I didn't know to take her serious or not but I answerd 'yea, its rough. Oh well, lets play again next time *wink*' and she said 'of course'. I'm starting to like her, hehe.

    End of review.

    Review of girl:
    Face = A+. Super cute and very nice complexion.
    Body = A+. Tiny tits are offset by tight body. Im not into big boobs anyways. Her legs were really nice, long (for her small height), and really smooth.
    Sex = A++!!!

    Not to be a negative nancy here but what shes telling me seems kinda believable. THe majority of my gaijin caucasian friends think that J-girls are easy and believe they can pick up anyone they choose. Whether 100% real or not, these types of stereotypes damage your chances.

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  2. #822

    Ikenai Okusan: Long report

    Okay so I decided to try DH today and I'll write up my report here.

    I gave that ikenai okusan a shot since I've read here that they never refuse gaijin (though the girl said she would never have known I wasn't Japanese).

    It was around noonish and I decided to give them a shot. I placed a request using their online form. THe majority of the pictures were blurred at the face which kinda made choosing difficult. Looking at measurements and the pictures, I decided on Manami. She has that slender look and cute looking face (albeit blurred but it's my visual imagination/ fill in the blank) and her favorite type was AV-type things. I requested for her at 1:15pm. Time goes by and I tried to put in another request, thinking maybe the first time they didn't receive it. This time, I ask for 2:15pm. 2:15pm came and went without a sign so I was tempting just give up and go to Tobita and try my luck there. At the same time, today was pouring and I didn't want to go out if I didn't have to. As I lay on my bed just napping, my cell rings at 2:25pm and its the company calling saying Manami is booked all day and unfortunately won't be able to do me today. I wasn't too worried about that (I only tried to picture what she would look like minus the blur so it really was just a gamble anyways) as my only concern was them getting back to me. I asked to the guy on the phone "dou shyou?" meaning what now or what should we do. He said based on what I submitted, if my selection was not available, I would like someone that is slender, young (20-30 years of age), and cute. I said yes. The guy suggested a girl named Rei. I asked if its possible to go preview some pictures online before going ahead. He said yes and told me to check while he waits. I checked and looked at her measurements. She has a small rack but her waist is small (which is a plus) so I said sure. I confirmed my address and part 1 was complete. He said in about 20 minutes, she should be there.

    5 minutes later, I get a call from the guy saying she won't be there till 3:20pm and apologized for that. I said no problem and he said ok and apologized again.

    3:15pm and I get a call from the driver saying he is here. I said ok. 2 minutes later, Rei is at my apartment door, takes a look and smiles and walks in. She was dressed in a very short miniskirt and a white blazer jacket. Very OL-ish, yet sexy at the same time. We introduce each other and I told her I'm not Japanese. She said she heard but she doesn't mind. I just kept staring at her body as it was quite nice (keep in mind she is still clothed).

    We walk to my room and discuss the plans. I chose the 50 minute course with polaroid option (why? I have no idea right now :P). She calls her driver or the company and tells them the details. She tells me its 18000yen. I asked isn't it 16000yen, because the website said so. She broke it down saying the extra 2000yen was because I selected a girl (which in actuality, I didn't really have a direct say--more like I agreed with what the guy recommended). I handed over the money and she said let's shower. I didn't really want to (kinda lazy and I already did before I requested the girl) and I explained why. She said ok and I showed her the shower room. She asked where to put the clothes and I told her to just change right outside it. She said ok. While she did that, I removed my jeans and left my boxers and t-shirt on. I watched as she stripped and she looked at me and giggled. I went to grab her tits right there. They were pretty firm but her nipples were a little weird. Inverted? I dunno how to explain. We did a DFK before she went in.

    I waited at my bed as she comes over. All this time, she never counted my 50 minutes. She said I should be naked (haha) and I said "you're right!" so I removed my clothes. Her strengths were kissing and I think the other word was licking. We started with DFK and she was really good. I can tell she didn't want to stop. As we continued, I moved my hand down to her pussy and started playing her clit. She started moaning (at times, I think she was faking but whatever) and then I moved my fingers inside her. She went wild and started screaming (I was worried neighbors could hear us, haha). I wasnt able to get her to cum but my hand was pretty wet. She was giving me a HJ while commenting how big I was compared to Japanese. I was happy, of course and thanked her for that compliment. She then went down and gave me BBBJ and was very good feeling. Seems pretty experienced. I ask for 69 and she said of course. Her pussy was clean and pink. Very wet. I went down on her and she kept moaning while continuing BBBJ. IT was awesome feeling. I couldn't help myself so I asked if I can put it inside her. She said 'dame' and said she was not allowed to. I said ok and suggested sumata. She said ok and she did that. I almost cummed during the sumata grinding she did. She varied it up and was great at it. When I was about to cum, I told her to go back to 69 (cuz I didn't want to end it right now) and we did. After that, more BBBJ where I just watched her. I asked her to try deep throat but she had no idea what it was (which to me was strange considering their occupation), so I explained it in Japanese saying its to stick the whole thing inside the mouth. She did it (looked like she initially gagged a bit) and then continued for a bit. She then changed back to BBBJ and going for the balls. Finally, I came in her mouth and she said it was great and I put a lot in her. I told her the same that she was wonderful.

    Because I had the polaroid option, we got to take 4 pictures. I took her front, up close of her pussy, her ass/pussy view, and one where I put my dick (no condom) a bit inside her vagina to look like we were doing it. She said that picture was a little too ecchi and laughed. We talked for a bit and some more DFK. I played with her pussy some more and then after that, she said she wanted to shower with me. I said the tub is too small but she said thats ok and she wanted to wash me.

    We made out while showering. She kept stroking my dick while we washed each other. She asked how old I was and I told her to guess. She said 24 but I told her I was 28 (which I am) and then I asked her. She said she was 32. She said she does guys younger than her so she is okay with it. I just laugh (though at the same time, a little disappointed it wasn't the 20-30 year old girl I requested for).

    We exited the shower. Dried ourselves and she gave me her business card and made out some more. I looked at my clock and noticed she was at my place for at least an hour since entering. Her driver had to call her cell telling her is she ready. She said she will finish up soon and be down there. We made out some more before she left but before that...I snuck my hand down her pussy once more to play with it. She said "it feels good and lets do it next time".

    We kissed and then she left. What an experience! This was my first time using Fuzoku for sex and stuff so it was totally new. I was a little disappointed by the fact we didn't have sex nor was she the age I had requested, but what she provided me was top notch. Her name was Rei, if you want to know and she works everyday 9am-5pm.

    Girl review:
    Face: Okay. If she was younger, her face would have been a beauty.
    Body: Slender with firm boobs. Her tits were on the small side (site says she is C-cup) but felt great. I managed to get her nipples to pop up hard. Her waist was small but she has that woman gut (kinda like a small belly that all girls have as they get older unless they work out). Her legs were long and thighs were firm, not fat, which is a good thing.
    Pussy tasted great...if youre into that sort of thing. She gets very wet and easily too.

    From this experience...

    Positive: she stayed longer than the 50 minutes. was willing to do anything other than sex (at least for now, Im assuming, since it was our first meeting). when I mean anything, literally ANYTHING. I didn't pay for anus iicking and she occasionally dipped down there, gave me a look and asked if thats ok (which of course it is haha). Great sumata and crazily good feeling BBBJ.

    Negatives: she smokes so i can taste it when we DFK. it bothered me a bit but I don't mind a whole lot. the company lied to me that the girl would be 20-30 years old but she was 32 years old. She didn't look old, but still. An untrained eye would have past her as 29-30 years old.

    Overall, great experience. If you are into girls that are 30+ years old, give her a shot. She is great and I have to say this again, her pussy tastes great!

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  3. #821
    Quote Originally Posted by Lion
    KDH will always include FS.

    Regular DH may or may not. Possibly free, more likely an extra charge of 5-10,000. I met a DH girl a couple times who charges an extra 10,000, which isn't too bad since the basic 80min course is just 13,000. So 23,000 for over an hour of playtime-much better than Tobita. Course you may be just as happy with 2-3 BBBJs in that time as well...

    She said about half her customers want FS, and that some, but not all girls where she works offer it.
    What is KDH?

  4. #820
    Quote Originally Posted by Goo Jun Pyo
    I always had the impression that deliheru provided FS, no? Or is that assumpation bad? I read here that some of the posters don't get it while some do. Is it the girl and gaijin-phobia factor?

    Or is FS always prohibited with deliheru?
    KDH will always include FS.

    Regular DH may or may not. Possibly free, more likely an extra charge of 5-10,000. I met a DH girl a couple times who charges an extra 10,000, which isn't too bad since the basic 80min course is just 13,000. So 23,000 for over an hour of playtime-much better than Tobita. Course you may be just as happy with 2-3 BBBJs in that time as well...

    She said about half her customers want FS, and that some, but not all girls where she works offer it.

  5. #819
    YMMV. LIke everywhere some girls might go for it and some not.

    But that shop, like all of them, says NO FS. Letter of the law. But AF is on the course menu.

    Short answer is you probably have to sort it out with the girl if shes up for "AF."

    IMO or my experience, FS is a pleasant surprise but not always guaranteed with DH.

  6. #818
    Quote Originally Posted by Ozboy
    The online form is only after they know you. You have to sort it out via phone the first time, and they seemed to want to be sure you know Japanese and understand your way around. They also check with the girl.

    Otherwise, they were okay with gaijin a few months ago.
    I always had the impression that deliheru provided FS, no? Or is that assumpation bad? I read here that some of the posters don't get it while some do. Is it the girl and gaijin-phobia factor?

    Or is FS always prohibited with deliheru?

  7. #817
    Quote Originally Posted by Goo Jun Pyo
    Did you try the online request form?

    Dumb question but is it safe to have a deliheru girl go ones own apartment? Or am I better off at an LH? Reason I'm asking is I have my (well rent) an apartment and I hear the girls have drivers that take them to places.

    Suppose I should use an LH, would i have to go to LH first, then make the request? Whats the best way of doing this? Any tips or sites?
    The online form is only after they know you. You have to sort it out via phone the first time, and they seemed to want to be sure you know Japanese and understand your way around. They also check with the girl.

    Otherwise, they were okay with gaijin a few months ago.

  8. #816
    Quote Originally Posted by Goo Jun Pyo
    Dumb question but is it safe to have a deliheru girl go ones own apartment? Or am I better off at an LH? Reason I'm asking is I have my (well rent) an apartment and I hear the girls have drivers that take them to places.
    I'm not really sure what the issue is, but I have deli girls over to my place, here in Tokyo and before in Osaka, with no problem. Yes, of course, the agency uses drivers. A couple of times the drivers have come up after to make change.

  9. #815
    Quote Originally Posted by Zcorps
    http://www.opai.jp/index.html

    Just thought I'd share this. It's a Delivery health that specializes in large breasts. The pictures are real and they accept foreigners that speak Japanese. They have to check with the girl as to whether a foreigner is fine. They're a bit pricey though.

    I had a go with Momo, she was very skillful. Standard BBBJ to Sumata. She's a hard worker. When I asked for FS though, she declined. I asked a second time, again declined. I stopped there. I finished up with a BBBJ and had a short talk with her while we cleaned up. Great if you're not looking for FS. You might be able to get FS from the other girls though, but you're going to have to try for yourself.
    Did you try the online request form?

    Dumb question but is it safe to have a deliheru girl go ones own apartment? Or am I better off at an LH? Reason I'm asking is I have my (well rent) an apartment and I hear the girls have drivers that take them to places.

    Suppose I should use an LH, would i have to go to LH first, then make the request? Whats the best way of doing this? Any tips or sites?

  10. #814
    Oh I see. Gotcha!

    Gonna give it a shot this Friday. Wish me luck

    Quote Originally Posted by Puta Playa
    Tobita should already be 75% up and running by 4 pm. Maybe you didn't hit the main streets?

    Here is how it works:

    A mamasan sits in front and she is the one who welcomes you, usually with a "dozou! " The girl sits in the back and looks pretty. I've never seen the girls walk around outside the shops. I'm wondering if maybe you were on the 'old' street where mama and the girl are both about the same age.

    If you get a douzo from mama, look to see if the girl is smiling. If not, she doesn't really want to fuck you and you should find a different girl. If you have a douzo and the girl is smiling, walk in, change into slippers at the step, and follow the girl upstairs. Pricing is fairly standard from shop-shop. The girl will show you a biz card with the pricing hand written on the back, you pick your time, pay her, and she goes to get a snack tray. While she is away, you get naked in the room and prepare for fun. She will return with a tray containing snacks and a coca cola. Eat a piece of candy, drink a sip of coke, then get on the tatami mat and action starts with BJ, 50% do BBBJ, 50% do covered. All do covered FS vaginally, with varying levels of vigor. You might be able to get analfuck if you speak Japanese well enough and have the right girl. 25% do CIM finish, and the rest want you to finish somewhere other than their tonsils. When you are done, she will leave alone in the room and you get dressed during this time. Then she comes back and escorts you downstairs.

    With regard to being Korean, I think Kansai residents hold all gaijin in equal disdain. I'm a white guy who gets a 15-30% douzo rate, so you should have the same call rate depending on time of day, age, and mode of dress.

    Now, all this being said. Look back to my last Kansai post, the part called Session 2 http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=910813. I ended up with a case of crabs and I'm 98% certain it's from that 20 minutes of fun. And she was an ultra-clean looking young lady. But as mentioned in my post, we were doing some deep fucking and grinding. From my perspective and experience you have a 1 in 4 chance of getting crabs at Tobita. Keep in mind, I'm a true hobbyist and not a fearmonger. A couple days prior to that session, I was naively posting on the Tokyo thread telling guys that Jgirls are so safe. Smiting them for talking about the risk of BBBJ at a certain cheap pink salon. Saying stuff to the effect of 'on the Rio thread, we fuck girls that go bareback for sport, and nobody has a problem. Jgirls are nothing in comparison.'. This might be true if Japanese water trade girls would have the common decency to shave their natural bushes and be more hygienic. After all, they do fuck strange men for a living. So I jinxed myself with that little comment about J-girlsand got my first and hopefully last STI.

  11. #813

    Opai

    http://www.opai.jp/index.html

    Just thought I'd share this. It's a Delivery health that specializes in large breasts. The pictures are real and they accept foreigners that speak Japanese. They have to check with the girl as to whether a foreigner is fine. They're a bit pricey though.

    I had a go with Momo, she was very skillful. Standard BBBJ to Sumata. She's a hard worker. When I asked for FS though, she declined. I asked a second time, again declined. I stopped there. I finished up with a BBBJ and had a short talk with her while we cleaned up. Great if you're not looking for FS. You might be able to get FS from the other girls though, but you're going to have to try for yourself.

  12. #812

    Western in Osaka

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Knight
    This may be barking up the wrong tree, but do any of you gentlemen know of a resource for hooking up with western/non-Asian girls? I don't think there are a whole lot of shops offering foreign service (the few that do, the girls are Columbian), so I guess I'm looking for nampa resources.
    Amuse
    http://www.amuse-osaka.com/top/index.html

    Real
    http://www.real-net.tv/

    Amuse is a hotel health with many Colombians posing as Italians, French, and anything else the marketers think that is sexier than Colombian(I think Colombian is just fine). The word on the street is that the photos are extremely outdated and the measurements are are damn lies. Don't worry, I I have better news, the service is usually far below the Nipponese standard and to get FS, the ladies quote an extra 20,000 (though men haggled and got it down to as low as as 3k).

    Real is a delivery health. I've been looking for reports about the establishment but I'm a bit out of luck.

    This information is based on reports on

    http://kansai.eyes.tv

    It is based on mostly Nihonjin so being a foreigner might change things. As they say, YMMV.

    Hope this helps.

  13. #811

    Tobita

    I believe shops open around 12 - I know of a few that do, and one of my favorite girls actually works the day shift.

    Your odds will be much better if you go during the non-peak times. These times are anything that's not Friday or Saturday night, anytime around payday (end of the month?), or anytime around a holiday. Daytime if you can swing it is much better than nighttime.

    However, if you are of Asian descent and speak decent enough Japanese, you should get good call rates. Just don't do anything to tip off that you aren't Japanese and you should be fine.

  14. #810
    Quote Originally Posted by Philm61
    Hi gentlemen,

    I'll be in Osaka for a few days beginning of October, ALONE!, and it's out of question that I come back in Paris without having had something like that:

    http://www.tnaflix.com/view_video.ph...ce3bf24a1c5939

    I want the mat, the lotion and the Jgirl devoted to my satisfaction!

    I RTFF, and could only find references to "normal brothels", Tobita and other places discussed here dont seem to provide this kind of service.

    Money is not an issue, this is going to be my first time in Japan (ALONE), there is no pice for a came true fantasy!

    No need to mention that I'm a total Gaijin (white, 6ft, green eyes, blond hair!) with rigourously no japanese skills or whatsoever.

    Thanks or your reply, there will be a report... if there is something to report!
    I'll be in Kansai in October-PM me and perhaps I might be around to take you somewhere.

  15. #809

    Tobita answers

    Quote Originally Posted by Goo Jun Pyo
    Hi,

    I'm new to this. Is it okay to go to Tobita at around 4pm or so and expect something? I went there last week (no action) and came across a few houses with their entrance open. One of the girls (who was very cute btw) was in the front sitting down, nodded, and said welcome (in japanese of course). I'm from Korea but my Japanese is decent and I can converse with people. I just nodded and left because I didn't know what to do.

    Should I have walked in? I didn't want to act stupid (because I knew what it was for) but what should a new guy do in this case? I wanted to try Tobita and I'm asking you guys because I'm new to this and a guys have to try various things in their life, right?

    Should I go at 4 or 5pm again and give it another go? Wouldn't it usually be girls coming out to invite guys? I never saw any girls walking around during that period but that one house with the girl that invited had the lights and all ready and stuff. She did say 'irasshaimase. Can an Asian guy just go in?

    Your help would be appreciated and I apologize for not posting a real report. I will post one once I have success.
    Tobita should already be 75% up and running by 4 pm. Maybe you didn't hit the main streets?

    Here is how it works:

    A mamasan sits in front and she is the one who welcomes you, usually with a "dozou! " The girl sits in the back and looks pretty. I've never seen the girls walk around outside the shops. I'm wondering if maybe you were on the 'old' street where mama and the girl are both about the same age.

    If you get a douzo from mama, look to see if the girl is smiling. If not, she doesn't really want to fuck you and you should find a different girl. If you have a douzo and the girl is smiling, walk in, change into slippers at the step, and follow the girl upstairs. Pricing is fairly standard from shop-shop. The girl will show you a biz card with the pricing hand written on the back, you pick your time, pay her, and she goes to get a snack tray. While she is away, you get naked in the room and prepare for fun. She will return with a tray containing snacks and a coca cola. Eat a piece of candy, drink a sip of coke, then get on the tatami mat and action starts with BJ, 50% do BBBJ, 50% do covered. All do covered FS vaginally, with varying levels of vigor. You might be able to get analfuck if you speak Japanese well enough and have the right girl. 25% do CIM finish, and the rest want you to finish somewhere other than their tonsils. When you are done, she will leave alone in the room and you get dressed during this time. Then she comes back and escorts you downstairs.

    With regard to being Korean, I think Kansai residents hold all gaijin in equal disdain. I'm a white guy who gets a 15-30% douzo rate, so you should have the same call rate depending on time of day, age, and mode of dress.

    Now, all this being said. Look back to my last Kansai post, the part called Session 2 http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=910813. I ended up with a case of crabs and I'm 98% certain it's from that 20 minutes of fun. And she was an ultra-clean looking young lady. But as mentioned in my post, we were doing some deep fucking and grinding. From my perspective and experience you have a 1 in 4 chance of getting crabs at Tobita. Keep in mind, I'm a true hobbyist and not a fearmonger. A couple days prior to that session, I was naively posting on the Tokyo thread telling guys that Jgirls are so safe. Smiting them for talking about the risk of BBBJ at a certain cheap pink salon. Saying stuff to the effect of 'on the Rio thread, we fuck girls that go bareback for sport, and nobody has a problem. Jgirls are nothing in comparison.'. This might be true if Japanese water trade girls would have the common decency to shave their natural bushes and be more hygienic. After all, they do fuck strange men for a living. So I jinxed myself with that little comment about J-girlsand got my first and hopefully last STI.

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