Kyiv

**HunterDave** · 10-14-09 03:47

Day 3 Freebie bonuses (not sure how best to define since I did buy drinks and appetizer)

Still no wi fi so I had to hit the Indian Restaurant again, but had a nice lunch to boot. While searching Mamba I found a few hotties for future meetings. While looking I found this tall good looking blonde (176 cm) in heels breathtaking. Her name was Lana. From the time we chatted online less than 1.5 hours later we were having a coffee near Independence Square, she took me on a small tour down by the river and to old town Kiev and then back to my apartment. This girl was 29, and was easily a 8.5 or 9. I could not believe how lucky I was to be walking with, much less taking that one to bed. She was a wildcat in bed. She did have a 3 year old and her ex-husband was a real shit. She had just joined Mamba and wanted to see how things worked. Just my luck. From how she moved and went crazy in bed, it was clear she had not been with a man in a while. Also my fortune because she was quite horny. This is another hottie which I plan to see again. After Lana left I thought I would check on a few of the p4p offerings, but then I received a call from Valery (Day 2) who came back early and said she wanted to do something; something romantic. She came by and picked me up at 7 PM and we walked to the Premier Palace Hotel and went to the restaurant bar on top. Quite a nice view of the city thru the big glass windows. (I also heard that the Hyatt rooftop [? ] has a nice view of the city). We had a few drinks and appetizer and then went back to my place around 9 PM. The whole time I was with Valery at the hotel restaurant I kept getting texts from this 19 year old whom I had wanted to meet even before I got to Kiev. She sounded great in our emails and clearly wanted sex and lots of it.. Plus her pics were good enough to make you drool.. I kept texting her telling her that my business dinner was going long. I kept her interested so I could have a safety valve. Once I got back to my place with Valery I knew I could text the 19 year old, Anna, for a rain check for Monday sometime. She said fine. Back at my place with Valery we had some wine and then moved to the bedroom. This woman had a great body and was very sensual in all she did. She gave the best GFE experience. She was a 8.5 to 9 in looks, but easily a 9.5 in the sack. Before we went crazy she did ask me one question, "If I was one of those sex tourists? " I told her I did not know what she was talking about. And she believed me..

From the time we made it to my bed around 10 PM, till she left the next morning after 11 AM this women was wild, crazy and sensual. She loved to excite and kiss my body all over. She almost gave as much attention to my balls with licking and sucking as she did my dick. This girl loved to suck. She loved to tease my cock with her tongue and gave numerous outstanding BBBJs. This woman always started each of our sessions with a great BBBJ. While all the women I was with had orgasms or multiple ones, this Valery would have those kind of orgasms where her body would shake and quiver for moments at a time. It was quite a show and made me want to please her that much more. While we would end each session exhausted, she would rest a bit and then go to work to make me hard again. She was a great lay. Over the nearly 13 hours we were in bed together we had 4+sessions and she did not ask for anything. Since she stayed so long and did have to make it to a business meeting so I went with her down to Khreshatik and hailed a taxi for her and handed her 50 grivna. She hugged and kissed me and said goodbye. Quite a Day 3 with 2 outstanding freebies. I went back and showered and got a few hours of sleep.

The Hunter

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**Member #4491** · 10-14-09 00:29

HunterDave, you are the king! Great reading.

Makes me even more excited to be heading to Kiev for the first time.

Question: is there any relationship promises on the table for those freebies?

Cheers from Barba!

**Qjump** · 10-13-09 20:43

Originally Posted by Forfunforfun

I was in Tallin three days.

The first girl I found was outside my hotel Reval.

She came to my room she had gray hear was about 50 had a nice body and big tits what I wanted.

She was very friendly and ask me how to go on and we had a nice time.

Started with BJ and I hold her tits.

She wanted to be on the top and I could handle her tits really nice.

Recommend if you like older and you can go on for a while I payed 50 euros and 200 EEK for the taxi although she was walking.

The other Natalie was splendid.

I waited for her long and had to masturbate before I thought she wouldn't com but when I relaxed after she knocked the door.

She smelled a little but was beautiful very big not heavy but tall and larg tits with big nipples.

She started with a red condome and the BJ was excellent with her tits in fort of me then she bent on her back and showed me her wet pussy and we started.

She was rather tight so I had to rest for a moment not to blow.

We enjoyed for twenty minutes and I kissed her and her lovely tits.

When I was about to come I told her and she opened her eyes and smiled.

She is very sexy and nice no hurry at all I believe.

Her number is [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]

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Surely it should also be moved as last time I was there Tallin was not in Ukraine

**Forfunforfun** · 10-13-09 11:50

I was in Tallin three days.

The first girl I found was outside my hotel Reval.

She came to my room she had gray hear was about 50 had a nice body and big tits what I wanted.

She was very friendly and ask me how to go on and we had a nice time.

Started with BJ and I hold her tits.

She wanted to be on the top and I could handle her tits really nice.

Recommend if you like older and you can go on for a while I payed 50 euros and 200 EEK for the taxi although she was walking.

The other Natalie was splendid.

I waited for her long and had to masturbate before I thought she wouldn't com but when I relaxed after she knocked the door.

She smelled a little but was beautiful very big not heavy but tall and larg tits with big nipples.

She started with a red condome and the BJ was excellent with her tits in fort of me then she bent on her back and showed me her wet pussy and we started.

She was rather tight so I had to rest for a moment not to blow.

We enjoyed for twenty minutes and I kissed her and her lovely tits.

When I was about to come I told her and she opened her eyes and smiled.

She is very sexy and nice no hurry at all I believe.

Her number is [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]

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**AColonizer** · 10-13-09 07:46

Yes, Kurenda, I was the first to see there is no crisis in sex market.

ANYWAY I see a light drop in prices in local currency, and, in comparison with dollar and euro exchange rates, prices, SOMETIMES, are dropped 50%, but not with the best girls.

It is much more hard to negotiate because pimps want the same money of two years ago. ANYWAY, if we have no mercy in negotiate, then we can get some deals, otherwise we go to pay Ukrainian girls more in Kiev than abroad.

Now regular prices are:

450 grivnas for the first hour of pussy fucking with a girl of your choice, two hour are 700/800, "taxi fare" included

600/800 for the first hour of pussy and ass fucking, two hours are 900/1200, "taxi fare" included

Night (10 hours) 2000/3000 grivnas

The state of art "Ukrainian deepthroat swallow blowjob" is not easy to get and this is the real tragedy! That's a must in a male's life!

Originally Posted by Kurenda

One year ago many here were hoping that due to crisis there will be dramatic fall in prices of everything.

Seems nothing happened.

**HunterDave** · 10-13-09 03:19

Day 2 Laying the groundwork for freebies.

My long sessions with Irina wore me out.. She texted me later that day and said she was completely wiped out and still tired. I got up after a few hours of rest and went to meet one of my online mamaba. Ru acquaintances. She was planned for 1:30 for coffee or a drink but was very late. This was to be just meet and to know her for about an hour and to see where things might go. I had a planned 3:30 with another girl so I knew the 1:30 would be just a meet and greet. My 1:30 was a 30 year old blonde wanting to practice her English and maybe some more. She was about 5'4" and very cute.. About a 7.5 at least. My problem was she was an hour late due to some other engagement and backed up to my 3:30. We had a nice 45 minutes together and I may follow-up with her on my next trip. It all depends, so many women and so little time on my trips.. Must choose wisely. I excused myself due to a "business meeting" and headed to meet my 3:30, a 30 year old brunette named Valery, who spoke some English and a lot of German. Thank goodness I can speak some decent basic German. She was hot, had that dark hair, fair skin complexion look with a great looking rack, which she, like so many Ukrainian women like to expose and tease us men, beautiful hazel eyes and seemed very interested in me. I love how a woman in a matter of 30 minutes from meeting you is not afraid to touch you and tease with you. I knew this one would be fun in bed. I did not push it since I knew she had to travel to be with her mother that evening but she said she would return NLT Monday and wanted to see me again. Little did I know then but that she was already planning to return early for a Sunday night rendezvous, but that later..

After meeting Valery, I was horny again. Would like to have lined up some p4p from Mamba but had already lined up a visit with another potential freebie. She wanted to meet at club near her place which was not far from me so I jumped in a cab and headed to this bar/club which was also a restaurant. She was a little late so I sipped on a beer. All the pics of her were very hot. Her name was Anya and she was a 24 year old graduate student, 5'6", light brown hair, beautiful blue eyes and a great rack. She really filled out her jeans very nicely! After some small talk which really started from weeks of online chit chat. We had a light meal and more drinks. She said she had some friend in town from her hometown and would later have to go out with her clubbing. I told her fine, that I was not into going with them at that moment. We seemed to hit it off well in person, but since she had her friend already at her place, we opted to stop by my apartment for a glass of wine.. Needless to say we went thru that wine fast and headed to my bedroom. She had the body I had seen in her bathing suit shots and what I imagined in those jeans. We had a few hours before she had to meet back up with her friend. This girl was very nice to talk with and was a great lay. She gave a great CBJ, DFK, enjoyed 69 immensely and was one of those screamers during sex. When I get a screamer I seem to rise to another level in trying to keep her screaming for more. I would rate her 8.5 in looks and a solid 9 in the sack. This one I will continue to see on return trips. My first freebie this trip. The online effort before I arrived in Kiev paid off. As she was leaving when I told her I probably would not link up with her and her friend that night, she warned me about going to clubs where the action at the bar had women who were not good and sold themselves for money to men only there for sex.. Go figure. She was trying to warn me about those women and us mongerers. I thanked her for the advice and told her I would be on the lookout for these people. Yeah right!

After cleaning up, I had a chance to take a short nap before I headed to RP. Each taxi ride to RP this trip was between 35-40 grivna. Not bad for negotiating with no Russian language. I got to RP around 12:30. Since it was Saturday night the place was packed. Again with beer in hand I proceeded to scope the scene. A lot of the same girls were there as the night before. So many hot looking women offering themselves.. I like it when I am not so horny after just having had Anya a few hours earlier and can let my big head do most of the thinking. When the little guy jumps in. Sometimes the $$ can go too fast. My Friday blonde Irina had thoroughly spoiled me with conversation and a tremendous night of sex plus great sucking, so I was very picky this night. I had numerous threesome offers (all for $200 after some discussion) but none really hit the right spot. All the women were stuck at $200 and I told them no.. I wanted to find a women who was pleasant to look at but could also carry on a great conversation. There was this good looking blonde with short hair (not quite to her shoulders) about 30 years old who was a good talker.. She was very witty and loved to talk about many topics to include US politics. She had traveled in the US and planned to visit again soon (which raised a little caution flag with me since I sure don't want to see someone show up near me in the US), but then she knew very little about me with so many little white lies and stories. She was a tough negotiator which actually drew me closer to wanting to be with her. She would not come off her offer of $200 and I told her $150 was my limit. She would leave me for a while to check out her other options but kept coming back to talk.. This further intrigued me and I just waited for her to come back around each time. She had a nice rack, appeared to be solid Bs. She filled her jeans very nicely so I became interested in seeing what was under the jeans every time she came back. Clearly the action and offers from other men in the place either matched or was clearly in the ball park of my offer (we all need to hold this kind of monetary line to keep the p4p in line with supply and demand or we will all find ourselves paying way too much for p4p.. Hold the line guys! ) After stopping by 3 times she finally stood right next to me and looked ready. I said guess we were destined to be with each other and she smiled. I told her that if she would stay thru the morning say 8 AM and if our session was good then we could work something out. I also told her that I did not want to get ripped off by a taxi to leave RP for my place. She was so good, we went outside the bar area and she ordered a cab and it only cost me 35 grivna. This woman was already working for her extra tip. Not bad. When we got to my place we had a glass of wine and some good conversation. This girl's name was Renata and when she came out of the shower with that only that towel on I knew I had chosen wisely. She tried to be a professional only light petting but when I treated her like a lover and began to suck on her tits and kiss her body she began to warm up and when I began light kissing to DFK, she really got into it. She had a rock hard body for a 30 year old. I told her she would have to work hard to get me to come and work she did.. Finally getting me to come with me riding her modified doggie with her pinned to the sheets with me deep inside her. I love it when we can come together. What I liked about this girl was that after we both came in the first session we lay there cuddling and talking about things and never went to sleep. After a bit of a rest we had another great session and again she was so good that she was able to make me come this time with her legs up around my ears with me deep inside. Except for the first girl (Day 1) all the others were more than willing to give BBBJs. This was great. While every woman would not let me take her photo, I was able to set up the video for most of the girls for my private collection. I just don't tell them about it most of the time. Renata stayed till after 8 AM and caught a ca home. She continued to SMS me the rest of my stay hoping for us to get together again.. Maybe this next trip. I crashed after showering for a few good hours..

Next: freebie bonuses..

The Hunter

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**Kurenda** · 10-12-09 20:34

One year ago many here were hoping that due to crisis there will be dramatic fall in prices of everything.
Seems nothing happened.

**Jojosun** · 10-12-09 20:27

Originally Posted by Telos

As of last week it is $300 until 5AM.

If you go early in the day I think its $400 until 5AM.

Entrance is 100h (they just raised it a few weeks ago), table dances are 50h, private dances are 200h and beer is 35h.

I was charged me 50 h for beer on 10 Sept .

Will see how much they will charge in early nov.

**HunterDave** · 10-12-09 18:21

Day 1 Friday PM, My second trip to Kiev

Had the chance to visit Kiev in earlier this month. Since I had good luck with my last apartment rental, I went with the same agency.. This time using a rented local phone (came with the apartment). Uploaded 50 grivna. Later had to add 25 grivna to finish out the 4 day stay. 50 grivna for 3 days seems about right..

My apartment was on Khreshatik the city center, this time had a view of the main drag. Very nice. However my first hiccup. Wifi broadband was down in the apartment and since I had been talking with numerous women online on mamaba. Ru, I had accumulated many numbers, but had not written them down. This slowed my calling them on my rented phone and easily lost me a few hours of mongering. Tried in vain to get the wifi operational, but finally decided I needed a Plan B and went with laptop to find an internet café. Turns out there was wi fi at an Indian restauraunt down the hill and sat there to look up the numbers and names of the women. Another tactical error on my part, but I had been traveling in Switzerland, Czech and Germany, and thought I would find the time while in those countries to extract the numbers, but never did find the time. Another lesson for the future. I also plan to look into buying an unlocked cell my next trip so I can maintain cell numbers for the future. My English speaking driver from trip 1 was not in town so I had a weak English speaking driver to coordinate with.. This also presented some problems, but in the end I was able to work thru them, and he did get me from and to the airport on time..

After overcoming my errors, I then proceeded to call a few women to set up meeting times. I thought this trip I would look to meet a few women and to see how hard it was to get a few freebies. While my backup was p4p. I lined up a few meetings for Saturday and then proceeded to look into a few near term lays. Except for my visits to RP, I used mamba exclusively and was very impressed. Each girl that visited me was the girl in the profile and with accurate photos. That is if you stay away from the Angelina Jolie, Charlize Theron, Britney Spears pictures.. LOL.

I told the girls on mamba who were online that I was in town and ready to meet them.. Got several hits and started lining them up. Most of these girls were actually on time within 15 minutes of when they said they'd be at my place. All again matched their photos.. And across the board were more than camera shy.. They actually said they would leave if I persisted. I need to get a better angle on this in the future, but since I was not meeting them in a public place and we had online negotiated a "price" we had pretty much dispensed with the formalities.

First thing was a young 20 year old blonde, very hot. Great looking long legs. She had a nice B rack, loved to suck. This trip I seemed to find many who liked BBBJ, 69 and a few extras. I did not pursue anal, but guess several were game. This girl was well worth the 600 grivna, plus since she was very much into the sucking, I gave her 50 grivna for cab fare. This was interesting since once she showed up, I met her at her taxi, she wanted the money up front, convinced her I would give half up front and the rest upon completion. She was not a clock watcher and she worked real hard to please me. She was a great moaner and really got into doggie and modified doggie. She did go crazy when I had her in missionary with her legs up around my ears and when I finally came. All in all a great first fuck and easily recommended for 600 grivna. Since I do not read Russian, I do not know how to pronounce or spell her name. But she had very nice blue eyes, very nice below shoulder length platinum blonde hair and a greatr pair of legs.. I would raste her easily an 8-8+.

When I was online at the Indian restaurant, I also found another 25 year old blonde, called her up shortly after cleaning up from the first blonde left and one hour later, there she stood at my door. This one had a great looking natural rack, solid Cs and she loved to have them played with and sucked. Sucking really turned this one on. As I usually do, I gave her a small glass of wine to show so we could talk a little bit to find out a few things about her. She completed her studies and had a job doing some tourism business. Her photo was again accurate. Her name was Ekaterina. She spoke decent English. This one truly enjoyed BBBJ and loved to rock and roll cowgirl and reverse cowgirl. She loved to suck and also to lick and suck my balls. She loved keeping me hard. She had shoulder length blonde hair and another set of great legs. Not as tall as the first, but did thoroughly enjoy doggie and modified doggie where I was able to get very deep inside. I would rate her easily a 7+ to 8 in looks and a sold 8-8+ in the sack. I have kept each of their numbers for future consideration.

Having had 2 excellent lays, I thought to finish off the night I needed to visit RP to see what was going on for Friday night. I rested some and then decided to catch a cab to RP around 1 AM. Was glad to see the place hopping. What I thought was interesting was that while the place was packed with many a hot women, I could only recognize about 10 women from my last trip in June. Nice to know they have a healthy turnover. Again I thought I'd lay back and just watch the women and the dancing for a good bit. Had not even had a chance to order a Ukrainian beer before 2 hotties were hitting me up to leave. Again nice to be wanted immediately. This Friday night was again another target rich environment. I stayed back by the bar and just observed the action. I quickly began to catalog the available action and rank ordered what was there. As the girls passed by and tried to gain my eye contact I would assess and rank order them for future possible consideration. I clearly was not in any hurry since I had been with 2 blondes earlier, so I sat there and enjoyed the view and the many attempted moves by the women to gain my attention. It was a great cat and mouse game which many times we men do not get to enjoy, so what the Hell, I leaned back and just enjoyed the competition. As usual all started at $300 for a short time, then when they see I am not considering it, quickly move to $200. I tell them still way too high. With my game plan to hang around and enjoy my beer and the women, I was able to rank order many women with the plan to finally negotiate with what I determined to be the best piece of ass in the place. I ranked ordered them based on initial looks, rack, legs.. And of course how well we talked and if she was a good negotiator.. If she wasn't willing to banter and discuss her fees then she probably was not much of a lay.

I had several ranked high as I made it thru beer #1 and proceeded to order #2. I do not offer to buy a drink until I see some chemistry and that she is negotiating and where we have come close to sealing an offer. So many want you to buy a drink and then when you say no to $300. The 200. Then move on.. Ah the art of negotiating. As long as the crowd is there and the competition is present, they will come down in due time.

I finally decided my top 5 and said ok, now which one to take home.. There was this tall blonde, she looked to be nearly 6' tall. Blonde, blue eyes, nice rack and from what I could tell thru the jeans she was wearing.. Legs to die for. She was in my Top 5 from when I first saw her earlier but she seemed to have a lot of offers from several guys.. But she continued to hang around.. Then she came by and stood near me to order another drink.. We struck up a conversation, but I pretended to not be interested. This seemed to intrigue her since she clearly was the hottest thing in the place.. Even better looking up close next to me, great looking, blue eyes and a nice looking rack. She said she was free and I said ok, what was she looking for..$300. Then $200.. I asked for how long. She said till morning.7 or 8 AM. I said I might be interested but for $150.. And multiple times. She said not for that amount. So I said thanks then. She decided to walk around the place and I thought (maybe she was worth the fucks) but held my ground.. While I sat and declined a few others she kept looking at me as she scopede the other men in the place. Needless to say.. She proceeded back to being next to me. Struck up much another conversation and after awhile we mutually decided we could accept the $150 but maybe I would give her taxi fare.. While we talked she asked the bartender for another champagne and while I offered to pay for it. The bartender gave it to her on the house.. My luck.. After we finished our drinks I had her commandeer a taxi for 100 grivna to my place.. This girl was so hot.. We had a glass oif wine at my place. Even after she took her heels off she was 178cm, very nice and had some beautiful great looking legs. This girl had modeled before and her body showed you why. I easily rated her a 9 and her performance in bed was if not a 10 easily a 9+.. Her name was Irina.

This girl pretty much wore me out. But I am happy to say I know I wore her out. Whiel she started out CBJ, as the night wore on, she gave some of the best BBBJs (gave multiple one) I've ever had. This girl went nuts sucking my dick, my balls, was a great kisser (DFK) a true GFE, thoroughly enjoyed cowgirl and reverse cowgirl. I just love it when they have multiple orgasms just when I am getting started. Since I had come several times earlier in the night, I was rock hard buyt no where near to coming. I had this girl in such rapture in missionary going slow and fast that between the "Da, Da, DA" I got many a scream to please fuck me, please fuck me harder.. She was so short of breathe that when I fucked her doggie and the did mmodified doggie and pushed her to the mattress to really get in deep, gasping and her hair covering her face I slowed back and moved her hair to make sure she could breathe before I finished off inside her. All in we smoked those sheet so much that I actually felt like I was getting mattress/sheet burns.. Mu caliente..

We both rolled over in a heat of passion and just lay there for quite a while. We passed out for a bit of sleep and then decided we would go for it again. While we were very tired from our first session, the second was just as great.. We then fell asleep.. She very hard. As I could tell from her deep breathing.. We slept till 10 AM and before she got up to go we went for a quick (as compared to rounds 1 &2) session. I could tell she was completely exhausted. She left after 11AM. Not bad three sessions and she was with me for 8 hours.. Clearly one of the 2 best lays I have had in Kiev. Before she left she gave me her number.. Thought I might go for it again before I left but ran out of time, but will surely see her next trip. After she left I cleaned up and then went back to sleep for a few hours..

Next report. The hunt for freebies..

The Hunter

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**Brandon88** · 10-12-09 17:19

Originally Posted by Telos

As of last week it is $300 until 5AM.

If you go early in the day I think its $400 until 5AM.

Entrance is 100h (they just raised it a few weeks ago), table dances are 50h, private dances are 200h and beer is 35h.

Sounds like the Ukrainians have adopted the Thai bar owner mentality - when business is down, raise prices dramatically.

**Meashearim** · 10-12-09 14:51

Telos,

Yyou are right. Entrance 100 grivnas to Rio, not 50 as I wrote! I thought my hundred grivnas took care of the tickets both for me and my friend, but that was not the case.

Jojosun,

My course in Russian actually started the day after my arrival! So no rest – no peace. I am happy though that my class mates are not the sharpest brains in the universe, so things are going pretty slow. I am still enjoying the excitement of being here, but lessons Monday to Friday, 10 am – 3 pm, are starting to have its price. I really like RP Mondays and Thursdays, but it is tough to get up the next day – especially if you have landed a fish the night (hours) before. So far – so good. But my performance in bed is maybe not what it was the first weekend in Kiev! I do need some rest soon. Btw, that list of RP-girls doing discounted performances during daylight sounds interesting... Me and my friend both landed two RP-girls on Saturday morning (4 am) for 100 dollars each. The funny thing was that my girl convinced my friend's girl to go for "her" price ($100). So finally we broke the RP-cartell. But they were only average, five in scale.

**Telos** · 10-11-09 15:47

As of last week it is $300 until 5AM.

If you go early in the day I think its $400 until 5AM.

Entrance is 100h (they just raised it a few weeks ago), table dances are 50h, private dances are 200h and beer is 35h.

**Telos** · 10-11-09 15:42

Originally Posted by Doctor_Skank

Upstairs is with the big central stage and downstairs with the booths? Can't remember which was which...

No more upstairs. Burnt 2-3 weeks ago along with a lot of other stuff in that building. I do think they are rebuilding though. Downstaris is working and u get a nice fire smell walking in (at least a few days ago you still did).

**Meashearim** · 10-11-09 14:56

I went to check out Rio yesterday, and the price for a 2 hour take out was $300. Drinks quite expensive. What we usually pay 80 grivnas for at River Palace costed us 135 grivnas here. I didn't check out how much a ladies drink cost, but it's usually expensive. Entrance 50 grivnas, which is reasonable.

What I didn't like about Rio was the atmosphere. Quite dry (I went downstairs, they have reparations upstairs for another week), and few girls on the floor – which amazes me – since about 35-40 girl was working that night according to the one I talked to. Probably this was true since they switched dancers at the strip poles every second song. And another new three girls went out from the "restricted area" to do their program. But instead of going to customers after finishing the program – they just went back inside!

If I visit a strip club I want to be surrounded of girls, two on my right side, two on my left side – all trying to convince me to buy a drink or whatever. And if they don't succeed, new girls shall come to me. Finally I may settle a deal, who knows? This was too bad. I have never been to NY, but I guess it may be like this. Pretty sterile, pretty boring, pretty cold.

The only good thing of Rio is the option of taking girls home, but $300 is not worth the investment. When they lower the price to $200 I will become a regular here, but now River Palace is such a better option.

**Jojosun** · 10-11-09 11:18

For my nov trip to kiev, I have got a a list of 400 to 600 grivna girls from escorts models. Kiev and top models with a max price of $100., that I am willing to pay.

Made contacts, and I did specify to them or their handlers, that if the girls who turn up, are nothing like the girls in the pictures, I am not paying any taxi money, and will be sending them back.

To pay $300 for girls from Rio for 1.5 hours, defeats the object of getting our asses all the way to kiev for mongering, no matter how beautiful the girl is.

I have got another list of girls from river palace, who are willing to do noties in the afternoon, for a much lower price, than asked for in the club. HAPPY hours I suppose.

MEASH thank you for your discovery and tip.

WHEN are going to study Russian?

Cheers from London