Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Member #4450]

Well... I've been asked, a time or two, to provide a toy that used batteries.

"For those hard-to-reach places."

You mean an electric nose and ear hair trimmer

[Artisttyp]

Buy cheap shit for the girls. Go to Big Lots and load up on Chinese cheap stuff. Nothing expensive, nothing with a battery.

A great gift for chicas are designer knock off fragrance oils. Actually any girl would love them.

Try www.goldstarfragrances.com They are based in new york city but they ship anywhere.

I usually go in there asking for all the expensive names like dior channel etc. Girls get really impressed. A little bottle at $3.95 goes a REALLY long way. Most of them smell the same as the originals and it lasts for alot longer.

[Phordphan]

Despite being under a watchful eye, the reality is that the cops in TJ earn about $600 per month which is nothing, even by TJ standards.

Nothing expensive, nothing with a battery.

Well... I've been asked, a time or two, to provide a toy that used batteries.

"For those hard-to-reach places."

[Country John]

This is an easy one for the zona experts like Country john etc.
I know the rules so the next question is how safe is the zona close to the holidays it should be avoid till after New year?
You always hear people saying the cops are trying to make some $ for the holidays and the criminals are out to rob anyone so I'm not sure if I just wait until January?
Seriously what do you suggest?

Despite being under a watchful eye, the reality is that the cops in TJ earn about $600 per month which is nothing, even by TJ standards.

Being a sworn police officer with the TJ police department is a "fallback" job for those unable to obtain a "real" job. It's sad but it's true.

Scrubbed up gringos need to be careful and stay away from anything that would get you detained. Not because you might have done something wrong, but because you might have money or valuables.

Buy cheap shit for the girls. Go to Big Lots and load up on Chinese cheap stuff. Nothing expensive, nothing with a battery.

[Efjayel]

I've been during December. It's mostly slower so it's safer. Don't quote me on the safety though. Best to always be about your wits.

[Member #4450]

This is an easy one for the zona experts like Country john etc.
I know the rules so the next question is how safe is the zona close to the holidays it should be avoid till after New year?
You always hear people saying the cops are trying to make some $ for the holidays and the criminals are out to rob anyone so I'm not sure if I just wait until January?
Seriously what do you suggest?

[Country John]

this post should be required reading before your are allowed in the zona norte. each "rule" is right on the money, well written and true.

very nice post hadez.

country john

a little advice from someone who has lived in mexico, been in cop cars, been to jail and has actually broken the law infront of a cop and gotten away with it multiple times.

during my many adventures in mexico i have learned what lines you can cross and which ones you can not.

1st rule. always be respectful. once you insult a mexican it becomes a matter of pride that they "win" and in case you did not know mexicans have huge amounts of pride. it is their turf and they will "win" if they put their minds to it. at the very least they will take allot of your time but most likely they will get more then just time.

2nd rule. know yourself. if you do not have any "person skills" in terms of dealing with the underground in mexico then always have cash to buy your way out. how you deal with a person from the us is different then how you deal with a person from mexico and that is different then how you deal with a person from china, india or england.

3rd rule. do not engage in any illegal activity unless you have money to buy your way out. i have seen a waiter sell a guy drugs then talk to another waiter who goes and gets securty. after watching that person fork over the drugs and money to security (probably for fear of cops being called) i saw the 1st waiter get the drugs back so he could start the hustle all over. do not try to get involved with insurance scams, **** girls, drugs, or fights. once you break the law you expose yourself to all kinds of money hustles and trust me there are tons of people down there just waiting for an american to slip up so they can get paid.

i have had the cops send a us citizen to walk with me for a block and then roll up on us. the us citizen was working with them and had drugs on him. for about 20 minutes the cops tried to get money from me saying that having drugs is a serious offense. i would tell you how i dealt with that situation but quit honestly every situation is diferent. you need to pay attention and size up all parties involved. if you have any question about your ability to do this then you need to just pay the money. this happened about a block from the clubs in zona norta as i tried walking to the dance clubs.

do not stray away from the clubs. if you want to leave the area take a cab.

realize ultimately everyone you encouter is trying to make money. that is the key to every situation you deal with.

in my experiences mexico is a very fun place. nearly all of my troubles down there have been self caused by someone in the group i was down there with.

[Hadez]

a little advice from someone who has lived in mexico, been in cop cars, been to jail and has actually broken the law infront of a cop and gotten away with it multiple times.

during my many adventures in mexico i have learned what lines you can cross and which ones you can not.

1st rule. always be respectful. once you insult a mexican it becomes a matter of pride that they "win" and in case you did not know mexicans have huge amounts of pride. it is their turf and they will "win" if they put their minds to it. at the very least they will take allot of your time but most likely they will get more then just time.

2nd rule. know yourself. if you do not have any "person skills" in terms of dealing with the underground in mexico then always have cash to buy your way out. how you deal with a person from the us is different then how you deal with a person from mexico and that is different then how you deal with a person from china, india or england.

3rd rule. do not engage in any illegal activity unless you have money to buy your way out. i have seen a waiter sell a guy drugs then talk to another waiter who goes and gets securty. after watching that person fork over the drugs and money to security (probably for fear of cops being called) i saw the 1st waiter get the drugs back so he could start the hustle all over. do not try to get involved with insurance scams, **** girls, drugs, or fights. once you break the law you expose yourself to all kinds of money hustles and trust me there are tons of people down there just waiting for an american to slip up so they can get paid.

i have had the cops send a us citizen to walk with me for a block and then roll up on us. the us citizen was working with them and had drugs on him. for about 20 minutes the cops tried to get money from me saying that having drugs is a serious offense. i would tell you how i dealt with that situation but quit honestly every situation is diferent. you need to pay attention and size up all parties involved. if you have any question about your ability to do this then you need to just pay the money. this happened about a block from the clubs in zona norta as i tried walking to the dance clubs.

do not stray away from the clubs. if you want to leave the area take a cab.

realize ultimately everyone you encouter is trying to make money. that is the key to every situation you deal with.

in my experiences mexico is a very fun place. nearly all of my troubles down there have been self caused by someone in the group i was down there with.

[Sgt Perv]

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[Sound7]

A 200 percent increase in murder rate since 2008 reporting.

Be very selective where you are and be alert.

All the best.

[Country John]

Here's a memo for concerned individuals about getting beat up in Mexico: It's the same as getting beat up anywhere else in the world.

A square kick in the balls in Pomona is just about the same as a square kick in the balls in Tijuana. Same with choke-holds. Blacking out on the street in Bakersfield is the same as in Tijuana.

So the same kinds of defensive mechanisms you would use us Barstow would be used in TJ. For example: running away, staying out of strange unknown areas etc.

Common sense must prevail in any case. In Tijuana you want to have all sensors turned on and activated. You want to be aware of your surrooundings. A person who will kick the shit out of you in LA is the same kind of rat that would want to kick the shit out of you in TJ.

Country John

[Sound7]

Consider public self defense training, if TJ safety concern is an issue.

[Efjayel]

My God. Never use a pen as a weapon. That is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

How so?

Two finger eye poke, kick or punch the crotch hard. Do it quickly. Move on. consider yourself lucky

Maybe I should re-enact a scene from the Three Stooges.

btw, why are you posting in colors now? That's just retarded.

[Sound7]

Two finger eye poke, kick or punch the crotch hard. Do it quickly. Move on. consider yourself lucky

My God. Never use a pen as a weapon. That is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

[Misinformation]

My God. Never use a pen as a weapon. That is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

Next time I'm going to hide my ID in my shoe. If they where to take my money, that's fine, not too big of a loss but I can't go without my ID. I'm a Permanent Resident, not a Citizen so it would be worse for me trying to cross the line back without ID.

Mike, good to hear you are not discouraged from going back. I'm guessing you will obviously be more alert. I carry a pen or a pencil with me whenever I go to TJ. It's not a weapon so the police can't stop you over it but in a situation like yours, if you react quick enough you could have whipped it out and take out an eye or something. I really doubt these guys where armed to begin with. Could have been possible to turn the tables.

By the way, did you get a look at these guys and would you be able to identify them if you see them again?