Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[Macho Dik]

Hi all,

Was wondering how much risk is it when a person have sex with WG or sex provider and found out broken condom before ejaculation?

Another questions is how much risk is it for a person to have sex with WG or sex provider by inserting his little Johnny inside of here bareback and then afterwards wear condom and comes inside of her with the condom on. this is irregardless of whether he wash his little johnny first before covered with condom for the final action.

MD

[Macheath]

The problem is, what if I got some vag fluids on my hands, either from where some were deposited at the base of my dick, or from touching the condom itself? I'm sure I touched my urethral opening while I was stroking, so I could have stuck some HIV infected goo in there.

Now I got a rash and it looks an awful lot like what HIV+ people get as they seroconvert. Hope I'm not an exceptional case of bad luck.

Anyone else ever worry about this?

You should tidy up your personal affairs, say goodbye to all, make a will etc - the end is near.

[Pekkakoo]

The problem is, what if I got some vag fluids on my hands, either from where some were deposited at the base of my dick, or from touching the condom itself? I'm sure I touched my urethral opening while I was stroking, so I could have stuck some HIV infected goo in there.

I think the risk is very theoretical. HI viruses die almost immediately when they are out of the human body. The virus cannot live outside. Therefore you can't be infected through your own hands.

PS. But I was also worried when changing the condom I touched the inside of the 2nd condom before inserting it on my dick. But as said it should be almost impossible to get an HIV infection, and of course the girl also should have it, which is probably not so likely anyway.

[Opebo]

...So I was fucking a girl, and just couldn't shoot my load in the condom for whatever reason. Happens a lot with me. So I gave up, pulled off the condom, and jerked off on her tits.

While obviously you have no risk whatever of HIV (and perhaps your question was facetious), you do bring up an interesting point. For many of us - perhaps most - it is impossible to receive enough stimulation while wearing a condom to attain orgasm. Of course it is also very normal to not be able to maintain an erection with one on, simply because there is little or no stimulation ('feeling').

It seems to me that given these rather severe drawbacks of condom-sex, a better focus of a 'safe sex' campaign might be some other practices, such as hand-jobs. How do give hand-jobs, how to be satisfied with hand-jobs only, and so forth. And most of all, to indoctrinate the populace to just accept hand-jobs as exciting and desirable, instead of sad and disappointing, as they are in actuality.

[Member #3428]

Well, if I'm hooking up with Bangkok hookers, I just need to assume some HIV risk. But here's what happened. So I was fucking a girl, and just couldn't shoot my load in the condom for whatever reason. Happens a lot with me. So I gave up, pulled off the condom, and jerked off on her tits.

The problem is, what if I got some vag fluids on my hands, either from where some were deposited at the base of my dick, or from touching the condom itself? I'm sure I touched my urethral opening while I was stroking, so I could have stuck some HIV infected goo in there.

Now I got a rash and it looks an awful lot like what HIV+ people get as they seroconvert. Hope I'm not an exceptional case of bad luck.

Anyone else ever worry about this?

Hope you don't want us to diagnose you.... Nope I've never worried about getting HIV by jacking off, as I'm worried about it when the condom breaks or I go bareback.

In other words mate, go to a doctor. I just had a medical (twice a month) and my doctor scolded me as usual but tests are still negative.

[Dexadrine]

Well, if I'm hooking up with Bangkok hookers, I just need to assume some HIV risk. But here's what happened. So I was fucking a girl, and just couldn't shoot my load in the condom for whatever reason. Happens a lot with me. So I gave up, pulled off the condom, and jerked off on her tits.

The problem is, what if I got some vag fluids on my hands, either from where some were deposited at the base of my dick, or from touching the condom itself? I'm sure I touched my urethral opening while I was stroking, so I could have stuck some HIV infected goo in there.

Now I got a rash and it looks an awful lot like what HIV+ people get as they seroconvert. Hope I'm not an exceptional case of bad luck.

Anyone else ever worry about this?

[NicFrenchy]

from the bangkok post, 1/12/2009

"about 30 million condoms will be distributed free, particularly to girls aged 15 to 19, throughout the country next year in an anti-aids campaign, deputy public health minister manit nopamornbodi said on tuesday. mr manit announced this in a speech to mark world aids day, dec 1. the minister said more than 33 million had been infected with hiv/aids worldwide.

in thailand, 358,260 people had contracted full aids and 95,983 of them had died. about 30 more people were infected with hiv everyday, he said. about 84 per cent of aids-infected people were estimated to have caught the deadly virus because they had sex without using a condom.

to reduce the spread of aids, the public health ministry would distribute 30 million condoms from public health offices throughout the country next year. emphasis would be on girls aged 15 to 19 years of age because statistics show the rate of infection in this group was twice the rate of boys in their late teens because they do not dare to refuse when asked to have sex or to demand the boys use a condom.

the ministry would also concentrate on educating people about aids and accepting those with hiv in society, mr manit said."

sadly these stupid girls will not get the message and get hooked on condoms... they will soon realise that it's not that p;easurable and give up... also, they have the average somchai (mr moron) begging them to not use condoms, ejaculating inside their cunts and making a nice baby, then taking off after a month because they can't be bothered to take care of the sad kid.

[Fon Tok]

from the bangkok post, 1/12/2009

"about 30 million condoms will be distributed free, particularly to girls aged 15 to 19, throughout the country next year in an anti-aids campaign, deputy public health minister manit nopamornbodi said on tuesday. mr manit announced this in a speech to mark world aids day, dec 1. the minister said more than 33 million had been infected with hiv/aids worldwide.

in thailand, 358,260 people had contracted full aids and 95,983 of them had died. about 30 more people were infected with hiv everyday, he said. about 84 per cent of aids-infected people were estimated to have caught the deadly virus because they had sex without using a condom.

to reduce the spread of aids, the public health ministry would distribute 30 million condoms from public health offices throughout the country next year. emphasis would be on girls aged 15 to 19 years of age because statistics show the rate of infection in this group was twice the rate of boys in their late teens because they do not dare to refuse when asked to have sex or to demand the boys use a condom.

the ministry would also concentrate on educating people about aids and accepting those with hiv in society, mr manit said."

[Daddy07]

I know its unseemly to be amused at other's miseries, but this one had me chuckling:

After her first HIV test, a doctor suggested she start taking a cocktail of anti-retroviral drugs. She refused, saying it would result in pimples on her face.

We must remember, Opebo, that 31 year old HIV infected fat girls with pimples on their face have a more difficult time finding customers, so I do understand why she made that unfortunate decision.

[Opebo]

I know its unseemly to be amused at other's miseries, but this one had me chuckling:

After her first HIV test, a doctor suggested she start taking a cocktail of anti-retroviral drugs. She refused, saying it would result in pimples on her face.

[NicFrenchy]

For all you guys who love to fuck uncovered, be sure to look out for the fat lady on the BKK lower Suk ... she's HIV positive and offers bareback sex to one and all.

Sadly, she isn't the only one, there are a lot of girls like her

[Daddy07]

For all you guys who love to fuck uncovered, be sure to look out for the fat lady on the BKK lower Suk ... she's HIV positive and offers bareback sex to one and all.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/inve...ive-prostitute

[Oki Guy 09]

Thanks Opebo,

Was not suggesting not to treat, of course treat infections that would be crazy if you didn't just that pre-dosing with antibiotics is not clever though. You just build up a resistance.

Actually Oki the reason those minor infections make one more susceptible is precisely because the immune system is more active - there are lots of immune system cells already in the urethra or vagina to be infected. (As I'm sure you know the cells which the virus infect are the immune system cells)

So it is accurate to say that getting minor stds increases ones risk, and leaving them untreated increases ones risk, but treating them with antibiotics (either independently or under a doctor's influence) does not.

[Opebo]

Actually Oki the reason those minor infections make one more susceptible is precisely because the immune system is more active - there are lots of immune system cells already in the urethra or vagina to be infected. (As I'm sure you know the cells which the virus infect are the immune system cells)

So it is accurate to say that getting minor stds increases ones risk, and leaving them untreated increases ones risk, but treating them with antibiotics (either independently or under a doctor's influence) does not.

[Oki Guy 09]

It may interest some mongers to know that HIV has been linked to overuse of antibiotics and/or the accompanying infections.

This is one theory as to why gay men have a higher risk of hiv, namely because their immune systems are being constantly compromised by infections and the antibiotics they take.

We should all be playing safe, but what interests me most from what I read is that pro-actively taking antibiotics may actually compromise your immune system and open it up to HIV!

Be careful self medicating!