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[Blair]

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But I am just wondering if some recent punters can give an update on pricing. I read the forum but not sure if the prices have seriously skyrocketed or maybe the odd posts that come through are from punters who are not that patient about negotiating.

I ask because I last was in Singapore in 2008. Now since then the world supposedly going through an economic downturn and I would have thought that may have slowed down the free spending business types and their mongering/travelling? On my trip then I was in Sing for a week and in OT I got LT nearly every night for S$200 and had quite a choice. Sometimes it took a little negotiation but not a lot,LT S$250 was very easy to get if I didn't feek like negotiating very long.

Certainly later in the evening LT for S$200 is available, though definitely not from every girl. Early evening you'll need a little more luck to get a true LT with no bailout attempt. The key word in your post is patience.

It's a market, and pricing (or more accurately maximising revenue) is a P4P girl's profession. If you negotiate with an attractive girl, early in the evening you're going to have difficulty getting LT for S$200. With a stunner, almost no chance. Even if you do achieve this, the chance of an early bail out is high. Negotiate with a less attractive girl, or negotiate with the attractive one later in the evening, you always have a chance.

Others experience may be different to mine. I tend to visit OT late, after midnight and sometimes much later. I avoid times when demand or the chump factor is highest (Grand Prix, US Navy visits, big trade shows...). For quality of service reasons I tend to choose girls who are simply attractive, rather than the obvious stunners.

My standard offer for LT for many years has been S$150+tip. I never promise a specific amount for the tip but indicate that if I'm happy, it will be more than just taxi money. If everything is satisfactory I usually hand over S$200-S$250 although just once, for a truly exceptional Mongolian I've gone over S$300. Whenever I've wanted to I've been able to call the girl for a repeat at these rates, so I'm clearly paying at at a satisfactory level.

Pricing can go very low if it's late and the girl, rather than you, is the desperate one. I was offered 'LT' (at 3AM) for $S100 late last year by a decent looking Thai whose approach I had politely turned down earlier. She left early afternoon, very happy, with S$150.

I always pay after the event and never up front. If the girl doesn't accept this, no deal.

Looking for value some things count in my favour, I'm familiar with the city and won't seem like a greenhorn to the girl. I usually don't care if I go home alone. Maybe word gets around that I'll 'see the girl right', or perhaps I'm good at choosing my targets. For whatever reason, with patience, humour and a little respect for the girl my offers usually succeed. Sometimes (and I don't advise this for an OT newbie) I haven't negotiated up front at all.

As Ozzie Trader implies in his post, the key is patience, never appearing desperate and acting at least a little like you know the ropes, which you do, even if you never set foot in OT, by reading this forum.

I second Ozzie Trader's comment about Cruiseon not overpaying. S$350 LT for something decent is fine, especially from Brix, where girls always expect a little more. It's the guys spending top S$, but spending unwisely we're trying to reach.

[Happy Chappy]

Glad you had fun Cruiseon and please don't take this post as me having a go about the price, as I am not up to date with current pricing. In fact what I am worried about, is that you paying S$350 for LT actually seems consistent with a few other reports of late.

But I am just wondering if some recent punters can give an update on pricing. I read the forum but not sure if the prices have seriously skyrocketed or maybe the odd posts that come through are from punters who are not that patient about negotiating.

I ask because I last was in Singapore in 2008. Now since then the world supposedly going through an economic downturn and I would have thought that may have slowed down the free spending business types and their mongering/travelling? On my trip then I was in Sing for a week and in OT I got LT nearly every night for S$200 and had quite a choice. Sometimes it took a little negotiation but not a lot,LT S$250 was very easy to get if I didn't feek like negotiating very long.

I will be in Singapore soon, do I have any hope for LT at say S$250? If the going rates are in the vicinity of ST $S250-300 AND LT $S350-400 then I think I give up!

Hi all,

I'm returning to Singapore shortly with the smile still on my face from my last visit 8 months ago. However this time I intend to be a little more adventurous and seek you advice. Last time I was staying in the Hyatt, went down to the Brix and selected a scrumptous little Vietnamese honey. I bargained her down to S$350 for LT and had a great night. GFE, very hot, great body and even enjoyed talking to her durng the recovery gaps. All very easy.

This time I'm thinking I'm due a trip to OT. Sounds like Ipanema is where I'll end up but has anyone been in OT in the last 2 months & can give an updated indication of how prices have settled down? Also latest bar info is always good.

Cheers

[Jayagopal50]

As'previously suggested in this forum. I tried both of them.

SGadsonline.com was mainly non english speaking Chinese girls doing in-call.

Expatraites ads for coming to your room was $250 and no assurance of quality as they were no pictures.

[Jayagopal50]

Before Reaching Singapore I had Joined Laksa boy as recommended. First night at BRIX was not to my liking as I thought the girls were Overpriced and not willing to negotiate. I picked a pleasant and average Chinese girl for $200. I returned once more to BRIX but again gave up as the girls are after high rollers with expense accounts. Who the hell wants to drink Champagne in a pick up bar.

There was a Raid in Geylang on the front page so I stuck to Laksaboy incall joints. I sessioned 3 times and all three were above average experiences. The girls were polite co-operative and service oriented. For $150 it was great value.

If one likes the hunt and have deep pockets and put up with overmade up Asian girls with attitude then BRIX or IPENAMA[less so]are OK. I am service oriented and for my taste I liked incall places. By the way I love Termas, and Macau and mainland Saunas which are all service oriented. I am too old to put up with an attitude.

[Cruiseon]

Hi all,

I'm returning to Singapore shortly with the smile still on my face from my last visit 8 months ago. However this time I intend to be a little more adventurous and seek you advice. Last time I was staying in the Hyatt, went down to the Brix and selected a scrumptous little Vietnamese honey. I bargained her down to S$350 for LT and had a great night. GFE, very hot, great body and even enjoyed talking to her durng the recovery gaps. All very easy.

This time I'm thinking I'm due a trip to OT. Sounds like Ipanema is where I'll end up but has anyone been in OT in the last 2 months & can give an updated indication of how prices have settled down? Also latest bar info is always good.

Cheers

[Irv Washington]

Well it took me all of about 10 minutes to link up with this Cambodian in Ipanema. She was young enough and cute enough for me. Beyond "cute," I'd say.

Relaxed, down to earth, very pleasant, good sense of humor, fun to be around. No rush, DFK, Russian, 69, rimming, several positions, finished with BBJWCIM and swallow.

A fabulous experience. A++

DB

Sounds like you had a great time with a nice Cambodian girl!

Can you let us know how much you paid and how long she was with you?

Irv

[Geneva Guy]

Thanks GG,

I also have been visiting SIN for many years and stayed in many hotels and I have never had any issues. A few years ago on a very hot and sticky summer night I brought a girl into a 5 star hotel and she lost her cookies in the elevator. Not a single questions or objection from hotel management. They only asked if she needed to see a doctor. I also was with another girl in the same hotel a few months later and in the middle of the night Auntie Flow paid her a visit! There was blood everywhere and again, no question asked. She went to bathroom and sat there while housekeeping took the bedding out.

At least twice I have encountered girls with a sarong and long t-shirt in their hand bags. They said it was for leaving in the morning. Dressed up slutty at night coming to hotel was no issue but leaving the hotel in the morning like that and trying to catch a cab back to their place was an issue.

I have so far picked up 3 viets from OT and all 3 had provided excellent service. However I made all the negotiations in advance and before leaving. I made it clear that LT means all night, as many shots as I can, and no money up front. I also ask them up front what is NOT included and one said no anal but later she said I can have it for SGD50 if I wanted. I know they are business like, but if you treat them nice, they treat you nice as well. I brought them, and any girls I bring to hotel from OT, to 7-11 before going to hotel and tell them they can have ANYTHING they want since room mini bar is off limit and none ever asked for anything more than iced tea or bottled water (regular cheap ones) and I usually encourage them to get some chocolate too.

LP. Hmmmm. Probably half a dozen times I have gone there and walked around and generally have not seen anyone worth approaching. They are mostly in 5-6 range on my scale. But I have not given up. Especially if I am staying close to it.

And finally tea time at OT! I will NEVER do that again. Please see my post about it from a few months back titled Fatal Attraction.

Be Safe,

APAC Man

Thanks APAC.

I did read your tea party story, hehehe. Sorry about that for you. My experience was a bit more sedate (until we got to the room and then. WOW).

As for LP, you are right, but, I may have hit it lucky, these girls were pretty and sweet and no holds barred (one told me she was an anal virgin and wanted to end that. So.). Do have to admit one thing. As many of you may agree, filipinas wear short-shorts better than any other girls I have seen. Well, these 2 came to my room for an overnight dressed in short shorts. And. We all went to the hotel breakfast together. And I got the most looks from the customers. Me being the ham I was, I enjoyed it and grinned ear to ear. I did ask the girls to bring a change of clothes for the next time they were staying the nite. But I have to tell you, waking up in the morning in the middle of a king bed and looking to the left and right and seeing these beautiful brown girls (my type) was something I won't forget.

I also like to talk to the girls on the street, mostly the ones that are ALONE. Met one at the elevator that takes you from the cinemas at the corner of orchard and scotts over to the marriott/hyatt area. Often found a SYT just sitting there. Waiting. And had some fun with her. They love the marriott and hyatt, just the lobby makes them gasp.

Finally, don't forget the Now and Then Pub on Anson. All filipinas, they get off at 1AM and they are often playful. I buy a couple of lady drinks, have a beer or two, chat, and then tell them I have to use the men's room. Which is a walk from the pub (maybe 100 feet down a corridor). One will accompany you if you ask and you can then arrange for her to come to your hotel after she is done. These girls generally are off on sundays and sometimes get off early on Saturday nite since the place isn't so busy then. If you like filipinas. Well. Not a bad spot, easy to check them out, generally there are 10-15 there. But the pub itself is sorry so overlook the decor.

Hmmm. When is my next trip to SG!

GG

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[Apac Man]

Hi Fellas,

I have to say in all my trips to SG, I have never encountered a Girl "unfriendly" hotel ... And, PE, I have not encounted any girls who carried a long dress with them to change. ... I suspect the hotels know the story, and honestly, they have nothing to lose by being polite and looking the other way. ... bad move to take 2 viets much less one...

Also, I want to remind the group that freebies can still be found at the tea parties in OT on sundays ... I still love a stroll around lucky plaza anytime and make eye contact with the girls... GG

Thanks GG,

I also have been visiting SIN for many years and stayed in many hotels and I have never had any issues. A few years ago on a very hot and sticky summer night I brought a girl into a 5 star hotel and she lost her cookies in the elevator. Not a single questions or objection from hotel management. They only asked if she needed to see a doctor. I also was with another girl in the same hotel a few months later and in the middle of the night Auntie Flow paid her a visit! There was blood everywhere and again, no question asked. She went to bathroom and sat there while housekeeping took the bedding out.

At least twice I have encountered girls with a sarong and long t-shirt in their hand bags. They said it was for leaving in the morning... dressed up slutty at night coming to hotel was no issue but leaving the hotel in the morning like that and trying to catch a cab back to their place was an issue.

I have so far picked up 3 viets from OT and all 3 had provided excellent service. However I made all the negotiations in advance and before leaving. I made it clear that LT means all night, as many shots as I can, and no money up front. I also ask them up front what is NOT included and one said no anal but later she said I can have it for SGD50 if I wanted. I know they are business like, but if you treat them nice, they treat you nice as well. I brought them, and any girls I bring to hotel from OT, to 7-11 before going to hotel and tell them they can have ANYTHING they want since room mini bar is off limit and none ever asked for anything more than iced tea or bottled water (regular cheap ones) and I usually encourage them to get some chocolate too.

LP... hmmmm... probably half a dozen times I have gone there and walked around and generally have not seen anyone worth approaching. They are mostly in 5-6 range on my scale. But I have not given up. Especially if I am staying close to it.

And finally tea time at OT! I will NEVER do that again. Please see my post about it from a few months back titled Fatal Attraction.

Be Safe,

APAC Man

[Geneva Guy]

The girls in OT often dress very sexy with short short skirts or shorts but they carry a longer dress for leaving.

This is to get through hotel lobby in no promlem for trashy dress.

I several times take a girl form OT to hotel and one time a colleague was in the same bar so we pretending we just looking and listen to the music. When he was in bathroom I told a girl who looking at me a lot that I want to take her home and she should follow me out to taxi when I leave - but my colleague shoul dnot see!!!

She understood well.

After I told my colleaguie I was tired and going back tomyhotel and so I left "alone". The girl follow me out to taxi but I did nitrecignbise her because she noiw wearig a longskirt! I though t itwas s different girl who get into taxi with me - but same girl.

Great system to get past hotel lobby!

PE

Hi Fellas,

I have to say in all my trips to SG, I have never encountered a Girl "unfriendly" hotel (have stayed around orchard, up scotts and in the Quay area and the area around Merlion). And, PE, I have not encounted any girls who carried a long dress with them to change. WOW. I suspect the hotels know the story, and honestly, they have nothing to lose by being polite and looking the other way. For example, my last trip, I walked into the Orchard parade hotel (through the front door) with a Viet on each arm (yes, I know, bad move to take 2 viets much less one, I learned my lesson). Yes, that hotel has a side door also and I've used it. However, some of the other places don't have side doors and I just have the girl hold my arm and we waltz into the elevator and up to the room. Years ago I was shy about that and did the thing where she followed me some steps back. But realized how silly that was to do. I'd say SG is pretty open and wouldn't go through all the process of extra key cards, etc. Etc. Etc. Just my 2 cents.

Also, I want to remind the group that freebies can still be found at the tea parties in OT on sundays (noon-6pm) mostly filipinas, and I still love a stroll around lucky plaza anytime and make eye contact with the girls, one of my best was in 2008 when I met up with 2 filipinas making calls home, I smiled, they smiled, I walked up and introduced myself and said 'what are you doing this afternoon. Care to come to my hotel" to which we all jumped in a cab and had a great afternoon. I saw them on and off for the next 2 weeks, and it was loads of fun. These were horny girls and of course, I was a horny guy, hehehehe. LP can yield results, you just have to walk slowly, look at them, smile and be brave. Worst they can do is walk away or say no. Just like we have that option.

GG

[Peter Eastwest]

The girls in OT often dress very sexy with short short skirts or shorts but they carry a longer dress for leaving.

This is to get through hotel lobby in no promlem for trashy dress.

I several times take a girl form OT to hotel and one time a colleague was in the same bar so we pretending we just looking and listen to the music. When he was in bathroom I told a girl who looking at me a lot that I want to take her home and she should follow me out to taxi when I leave - but my colleague shoul dnot see!!!

She understood well.

After I told my colleaguie I was tired and going back tomyhotel and so I left "alone". The girl follow me out to taxi but I did nitrecignbise her because she noiw wearig a longskirt! I though t itwas s different girl who get into taxi with me - but same girl.

Great system to get past hotel lobby!

PE

It depends on the hotel. A lot of hotels make you use your room key card to work the elevator. That does sometimes create problems, but in the one of few situations I have encountered with that, they called up to my room and asked if I was expecting a visitor. Once I said it was ok, they put her on the elevator for me.

Otherwise under most circumstances and in most of the major hotels in Singapore, she should be able to go straight on up to the room on her own. I suppose if it is really late, someone may challenge her if she hesitates or really looks trashy, but during normal hours there are always people coming and going.

In Singapore though half the fun is going down to OT and picking your date. Of course then you will have to walk her through the lobby. If you are worried about co-workers, explain the situation to her and just have her follow you.

Just remember that most hotels are very aware of the fact that working girls come and go and do their best to not interfere. However, they do have an obligation to maintain safety and security for their guests and will intervene in any situation they perceive threatens that.

[OzzieSuds]

I will be making a few business trips to Singapore. Can anyone share or pm me the addresses or at least contacts numbers of OKT or freelance independents ones? Let me know.

Thanks bros

You will get this information from the forum run by sammy and his boy. google it.

[Kakuyo Minoue]

I will be making a few business trips to Singapore. Can anyone share or pm me the addresses or at least contacts numbers of OKT or freelance independents ones? Let me know.

Thanks bros

[OzzieSuds]

I always walk the girl up. I usually stay at a hotel different than my co-workers because of "loyalty programs". So, I don't worry to much about being spotted walking up. I usually with non-P4P girls anyway and it is difficult to explain to them why you need to go up separately.

Hotel key cards are just mag strips and can be easily copied, and I'd never give a biz card to a P4P girl. Call me paranoid, but I don't like surprises.

Even with the precautions suggested by Luvumbare I am still with bikerider on the security issue.

[BikeRider]

One way I get around the elevator key card problem is to ask for 2 keys when I check in. I have never had a problem getting them.
When I have settled on my SYT, I give her the hotel business card with my name and room number on it. I also give her the extra key card. we agree on an arrival time. She has a 30 minute window. If she does not show up, I assume a scam is in process and I go to the desk and claim I lost my key card and need another.

When they issue the new card, it has a new code and the card the SYT is holding will not open my room so no chance of a "strange night visitor".
'bare

I always walk the girl up. I usually stay at a hotel different than my co-workers because of "loyalty programs". So, I don't worry to much about being spotted walking up. I usually with non-P4P girls anyway and it is difficult to explain to them why you need to go up separately.

Hotel key cards are just mag strips and can be easily copied, and I'd never give a biz card to a P4P girl. Call me paranoid, but I don't like surprises.

[Traveler1234]

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