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02-23-10 01:16 #1766
Posts: 16Originally Posted by Goga Fung
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02-23-10 01:14 #1765
Posts: 16Originally Posted by Mel365
I just started my research and haven't settled on Curacao but fgured this would be the place to ask about this particular island. Do you have a recommendation keeping in mind my 3 top priorities (Diving, cost, airfare from states). I am also currently looking at the DR.
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02-19-10 23:05 #1764
Posts: 7Anyone wants to join?
I will be in Curacao on Wed the 24 with a few friends. Anyone has any suggestions?
Be more than happy to meet up with some of you.
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02-15-10 23:50 #1763
Posts: 14Originally Posted by Aesder
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02-14-10 14:51 #1762
Posts: 419Originally Posted by Goga Fung
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02-13-10 14:19 #1761
Posts: 606Originally Posted by Ajordan
You can give them extra money for extra time and/or services. Also some girls do not even talk about money, you just pay them after the "performance"
It's better to pay in Florins, it's actually a little bit cheaper than in dollars.
But some time strange things may happen. Long time ago one friend asked a girl if he can pay in dollars, she said yes, and for some reason she readily agreed for $20. It looks like they really like dollars, maybe getting too excited, so she could not even calculate or think. Kinda strange because in florines she still wanted 50Fl.
Every room has a shower, and you can shower, no problem. But the girls do not shower after each customer.
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02-10-10 17:20 #1760
Posts: 419Originally Posted by vitrea
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02-10-10 06:13 #1759
Posts: 2095Can't compete
Looks like the verdict is that you do not compete with Campo, unless you want to get shot. Sorry Mel. Thought I had a brilliant idea. I still think may be you could joint venture with a local..but never mind :-)
Liathian, thank you for the reference posts. I do find the strip-club deal hypocritical. For a change, I agree with a lawyer. The guys hire a Dominican "stripper" who knew exactly what is expected of a "stripper" in the Caribbean. She is jealous of her fellow Dominica managing the place without having to suck on smelly dicks or gets tired of riding cock for not much money and decides to turn on them! They are now convicted with prostitution on an island with one of the world's largest brothels. Great.
Who cares. Sounds like that club was lousy competition for Campo anyway.
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02-10-10 05:54 #1758
Posts: 29Campo Allegre on Tuesday (Ladys Night)
Well I must say It was better. But I still wouldn't recommend the destination.
I arrived at 11:00 pm, there were at least 5 times the people parked there. I want to say there were regular girls there as well. I guess they get in free and get discount on drinks. Anyways, there was a larger quantity of women. I'm guessing probably 80 women. And I saw at least 5 passable, and maybe 2 8s of the 80. Don't get all crazy. No 9s and no 10s.
And there were probably around 50 guys wandering around. I happen to get lucky and grabbed one of the 8's. A nice 32 year old from Medellin. (9 Body, 8 Face, 7 Attitude, Not GFE. Anyways, most girls charge 30 USD for 30 min, she wanted 50. Sellers market when she looks that good. We settled on 40.
You really need to arrive late. It doesn't get going until 11 or later. Also, I don't know, but I didn't see a shower in this girls room. Gives me the creeps.
Well, needless to say. She didn't shower and went back to work. Good Fight. Bad Karma. Big shower back at Hotel. I must say, she was nice too look at. But over all, 95 + % of the women there couldn't pay me to sleep with them.
Also earlier in the evening, around 10: 30 I went to a place called Amigo's Terrace. A strip club/brothel, anyways there were 6 girls there. I'm guessing all Dominican. 5''s and 6's. But nice body's I guess. I'm a neck up guy so. It has to be 7+ in that category. I hung around there like 15-20 Minutes to see if more girls were coming, but no. The place is average size, reminds me of a low class strip club in the US. Again, not that easy to get too, the street signs suck in Curaco. Its off Santa Rosa avenue. But I wouldn't bother.
Sorry to be so negative. But save your money. Goto Medellin, Costa Rica, Rio, even Argentina before coming here. I'm happy to answer questions if some one has. I think the DR is much better as well. SO many Options out there, skip this one.
I came for work, which was a bonus. Paid for hotel, food, and rent a car. So I don't feel that bad about my visit. But if I would of paid for the package. OMG shoot me.
Regards to All. Montevideo later this week. I'll be posting in that area. Hope to have a better time there.
Ajordan
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02-10-10 05:39 #1757
Posts: 2043Forget about opening a club in the islands.
As far as I know all of the club owners in sxm and cur are connected. As a foreigner you would find it next to impossible to open a club.
My experiences at Campo have always been good. Either I get a good referral, run into a chica that I know, or find some good talent.
I have never been disappointed although it might take 3 tries a night before you get a keeper.
I find it amazing the memories of these chicas. I ran into a chica that I banged one time in the afternoon back alley in Aruba 2 years ago. I ran into her in Carolinas (Sxm) last trip and she jumped all over me
I find this truly amazing.
Mel
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02-10-10 00:42 #1756
Posts: 419Originally Posted by Lucky Strike
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02-10-10 00:16 #1755
Posts: 87One Year Ago..............
From January 27, 2009:
Fear & Loathing In Curacao: Giovanni van Ierland,
Controversial Former Owner of Campo-Alegre Murdered in Curacao.
WILLEMSTAD, CURACAO – The Dutch Forensic Institute (NFI) is investigating the murder of Giovanni van Ierland. The former Campo-Alegre owner was shot dead on the street January 27, 2009. It is not the first time that the NFI has assisted the Public Prosecution’s Office and the police in an investigation in Curacao.
Mr. van Ierland was in the process of regaining ownership of the Campo-Alegre brothel which he lost while in prison to his former partner. With the death of van Ierland his next of kin has to decide whether to continue the reclaiming proceedings or not.
In 2002, van Ierland was sentenced to twelve years for laundering drugs and money through Campo Alegre. A fine of 800,000 guilders (US$468,000) was also paid prior to van Ierland's release from prison in September, 2008.
Note: As of February, 2010, NO ONE has ever been brought to Trial for Giovanni van Ierland's Murder.
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02-10-10 00:02 #1754
Posts: 87The Sleazy World Of A Curacao Strip Club
fear & loathing in curacao.
from "amigoe" curacao's newspaper:
the shady world of curacao striptease clubs.
8 feb, 2010, 07:03 (gmt -04:00)
willemstad — last friday, the public prosecutor had demanded a 36-month sentence each – of which twelve conditional for the manager of striptease club de rode leeuw, the nigerian bhuhari “bibi’ h. (45) and his assistant gilberto ‘chino’ g. (29). according to the officer, they were guilty of women trafficking in which they had forced three striptease dancers to prostitution.
nine months had been demanded against the third suspect, the dominican anny p. (21). she had also worked at de rode leeuw as hostess and by order of bibi had managed the keys of the new padlocks, which he had placed on the gates on october 13th last year so that the two striptease dancers esmeralda and perla could no longer leave the terrain. that evening, they had indicated they did not want to have sex with customers in one of the two cribs on the terrain of the nightclub. however, bibi insisted, as business was bad. the dancers declared they had had sex with a customer twice and four times under duress.
they had not been the first ones either. from statements of their traced fellow-countrywoman chrystal, it appeared she had experienced the same. she had also been forced to have sex with customers to generate more income. as she had not be able to pay the weekly rent of her room and apparently not consumed sufficient drinks, she had also had sex with customers a few times. (by the way, the girls received 2 guilders from every glass of wine costing 9 guilders, in reality their wine had been cranberry juice, red.). from the 125 guilders received for the sex, the girls had had to pay 25 guilders for the room.
in the meantime, chrystal had also had a relation with a customer of de rode leeuw with whom she had sometimes spent the night. when she indicated that she was no longer willing to have sex with customers, she had been confined for two days. her passport had been confirep001ed. she had been dropped off at the airport and after immigration had been informed, she had received her passport only at the gate. having worked at de rode leeuw for three months, she states she had actually only earned 200 guilders.
bibi and chino deny there is a question of [CodeWord908], as the girls themselves had applied for the job with explicit (nude pictures). bibi states that considerable costs were made before a girl could actually come to the island, “ticket, permits, svb and salary, nearly 2000 guilders”. he had made an agreement with the owner of de rode leeuw, rudy da costa gomez last year to rent the striptease club for approx. 5000 guilders per month. that includes all rules, such as fines if a girl wants a night out. “they always had a day off on mondays when they were allowed to do whatever they wished, including extra income by prostitution which they didn’t have to hand over.”
“these girls knew in advance what was expected of them, says lawyer eldon sulvaran. he blamed the government of hypocrisy by collecting money for the ‘dancers’ permits on the one hand and tolerating these brothels on the other hand. “the striptease club world is a shadowy one.” he also blamed the om that they had interrogated chrystal first without informing the defense. “that is not according to the rules.” this is why he pled for inadmissibility.
all that time, the 21-year old anny had been held in custody since october 14th. she says she had not known that esmeralda and perla had been confined against their wishes and that she had only been ordered to manage the keys and buy food at the chinese next-door. until last week, the charge of women trafficking had still been held against her, which is why the appeal for suspension of her preventive custody by her lawyer toos smeulders had been rejected thrice. the officer dropped the charge, so that only the principal in the second degree of unlawful detention remains.
anny had attended school until her 13th year and has a 7-year old daughter. she still lives with the child’s father, but he is unemployed and cannot support his child. she asks for nothing better than to return to sto. domingo.
the officer had demanded nine months against her, ‘because she does not want to tell the truth.’ at the end of the session, the judge lifted the preventive custody. the young female, who had fumbled for words before the judge, was intensely relieved. she had spent last weekend in the aliens’ barracks and supposedly deported today.
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_68557.php
i'll stick with campo over some back street strip club, now or in the future.
campo's weekly strip show is usually very interesting.
the girls are at campo by their own choice and are not locked up........
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02-09-10 23:12 #1753
Posts: 379Originally Posted by Vitrea
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02-09-10 22:18 #1752
Posts: 2095Originally Posted by Ajordan
Main problem seems to be lack of competition. I am sure many of you own and or manage thriving businesses. You know what I am talking about. They don't even have a decent strip club on the island! Nothing other than Campo! SXM is a good example how at least some competition brings up quality. They are also Colombian girls and have to fly farther to get there but still, they are getting up there and some time by plane loads. Goga makes some excellent points but IMHO it all comes down to management and competition is the best motivation for better management.
Here is an idea: One of the Caribbean veterans that has a lot of contacts with Colombia AND friends of SXM club owners could start a new club in Curacao and bring some talent up. Curacao's reputation draws mongering foreigners to the island anyway so you don't even need to advertise or worry about local laws. Place would be packed from day one.
Mel and Goga, what do you guys say? :-)