Moscow

[Stravinsky]

what can he do if a prostitute (often) cheats him for a lot of money (crisis? where?)? Can he complain??? He has just lost his money, and also he risks to be beaten by prostitutes or by the bodyguard. Moreover he risks to be stolen of everything. And he can't phone police because police is corrupted.

Paranoia strikes deep,
Into your heart it will creep.
It starts when you're always afraid...

[AColonizer]

In the last messages, people wrote everything and the opposite of everything.

If you like Moscow, OK Moscow is for your tastes!

About professional prostitutes, Harlei has just reported an (bad) experience about that. The question is: how many customers had bad experiences and couldn't talk about those?

About danger in brothels, you need just to think in an adult way (not as children looking for the marmalade). If a foreigner goes alone to a brothel and he finds three or more prostitutes (and sometimes there is a real bodyguard escorting from/to the door), what can he do if a prostitute (often) cheats him for a lot of money (crisis? where?)? Can he complain??? He has just lost his money, and also he risks to be beaten by prostitutes or by the bodyguard. Moreover he risks to be stolen of everything. And he can't phone police because police is corrupted. Therefore it is wise to invite prostitutes in our hotel or flat. This is just a hint to avoid a lot of troubles. And I never had troubles with hotels. If necessary, negotiate and bribe for the hotel staff.

About GFE, there is a real GFE when you get everything, and everything is everything, from karoleski miniet (Russian pronounce) to vaginal fisting by a young and beautiful woman. For a plain pussy fucking, there is no sense to go abroad.

[Doctor_Skank]

Thanks for the list and links Helena!

How's business by the way?

[Helena Moscow]

Hi, Guys.

Here are links to some inexpensive and girl-friendly hotels near Moscow center.

Maxima Panorama - metro Avtozavodskaya, rooms from 2100rub http://vmoskvy.ru/hotel/maxima_panorama.html

Ulanskaya - metro Chistye Prudy, Turgenevskaya, rooms from 5850rub http://vmoskvy.ru/hotel/ulanskaya.html

Medea - metro Paveletskaya, Novokuznetskaya, rooms from 6500rub http://vmoskvy.ru/hotel/medea.html

Mandarin - metro Krasnoselskaya, a bit ourside Garden Ring, but rooms from 3500rub http://vmoskvy.ru/hotel/the_mandarin.html

Ibis - metro Paveletskaya, rooms from 3500rub http://vmoskvy.ru/hotel/ibis.html .

Also on this site they write about secial offers sometimes, so this can be useful to ask.

[Pizdyets]

Hey Harlei,

I applaud you on your ability to reclaim most of your money from this tramp, but this is your third post already on the same girl/episode. I understand that this forum's format isn't ideal and posts often get ignored/overlooked after a week or so, but no sense in beating a dead horse (or wh0re in this case ).

The main thing to remember here is... if you arrange for выезд (out-call), and the girl isn't to your liking or expectations, have the good sense to SEND HER AWAY IMMEDIATELY. Same with a salon or apartment -- if you were expecting slim, perky-titted, model-faced teen "Masha" and find only fat, weathered and/or ugly goblins in her place, don't hesitate for a second to turn on your heels and head back to the podyezd. Really - there's no reason to feel guilty about it. If these girls are stupid enough to misrepresent themselves, then they have it coming. That said, I'm always a polite gentleman when doing it - which is more than they likely deserve.

Looked like she also didn't want a scandal as was a frequent visitor of the hotel. She came out of the bathroom, put 150 euro on the table and silently went away.

I have never had such a disgusting escort experience as that! Instead of a girl from the photo I had a cheap shabby bold *****, who is in her late 30ies.

The photos resemble her, but in reality she is fatter with no bust much older and more simple.

[Harlei]

I saw Julia on these sites :

http://www.girl-directory.com/russia...t.php?ID=16570 and
http://www.sexyindependentescorts.co...ndent-552.html

Several months ago and after several letters decided to invite her to my hotel when I am in Moscow. The price was too much and I aksed for a small discount, she immediately agreed.

When the woman went into my room it seemed to me that her face was strained and tired, looked like she had had several customers before me. Her hair smelled not fresh as well, under the eyes there were bruises- I could imagine that shehad been working intensely.

She stopped being more or less friendly after she got her 250 euro. Also on the telephone I didn't feel that so much, but she had terrible accent that was hard to understand, so after some short time I just stopped trying to make some kind of conversation and decided to get to the process. She was not against, immediately went to the bathroom.

Before tried to torture me with the question if I had a shower or not, but so far she was one hour late I explained it to her several times that I had enough time to get cleaned. When she went to the bathroom I wondered why she was so persistent about my going to the bathroom, may be to steal something and leave. It could be like this as the continuation was just even worse. The beginning was just frustrating, but I decided to go on, just wondered how far these girls can go.

So when she came from the bathroom and I put a way the towel she was holding, I discovered that she has not tits at all! Where are the tits, I was thinking trying to get my Brother act or move, also she was fat, the ass looked miserable. I lied down thinking that after such a fake as her site and the photos on the site she could at least be more active to work out the money she took from me. She began to perform something that could be oral in a rubber, without initiative and nearly dyeing. I understood that there will be no use in all these and decided to finish with the meeting, took her from behind and tried from the back helping my brother with the hand, She was absolutely dry and squeezed my legs with hers in the way for me not to be able to go deep. I was on the edge of throwing her out of my room exactly at this moment but kept myself from doing it, try not to be rude with women whoever they are.

After unsuccessful attempts of getting what I have paid for, I asked her for message. She tried to show that she is performing a kind of message, that was in fact pinching me with her cold hands. I asked to stop, she looking unsatisfied and lied down as though waiting when I let her go home. Also want to add that the telephone was ringing all the time until I asked her to switch it off. I was again as angry as I wanted to throw her out of my room and in fact that was what I did.

I took her bag and threw it to the door demanding to return 150 euro, explaining that instead of a young happy escort girl from the photos I got an old tired street prostitute that can hardly speak English and is not able to perform anything for the money that took from me. I saw that it made some effect, at least she understood, she looked frightened, took the bag and disappeared in the bathroom. I confirmed my intention to take my money back telling her that I could ask for a guards of the hotel (that I would never do) and tell him that she stole some things from me. I was so angry that was ready for this!

Looked like she also didn't want a scandal as was a frequent visitor of the hotel. She came out of the bathroom, put 150 euro on the table and silently went away.

I have never had such a disgusting escort experience as that! Instead of a girl from the photo I had a cheap shabby bold *****, who is in her late 30ies.

The photos resemble her, but in reality she is fatter with no bust much older and more simple.

http://www.escort24h.net/escorts/gallery/Julia2.html

http://www.sexyindependentescorts.co...ndent-552.html

Found several more photos of this fake provider!

[Pizdyets]

C'mon Acon. That's ridiculous.

99% of the salons are cheating and dangerous? More like 99% are completely safe.

I wholehandedly agree with the good doctor. Maybe I don't have a GREAT time during every visit to a salon, but 95% of the time, it's good. That's assuming you do your research and go to a reputable place. Same goes for CF/BH/HD. Be super clear with the girl about your expectations (time, number of pops, services and so on), and you'll rarely be disappointed. I'm not saying it won't happen (especially at NF, which is notorious for girls who underdeliver), but it should be the exception rather than the rule.

As for Kiev vs Moscow, my general feeling is that p4p options are a bit different between the two, but more-or-less equivalent in price/performance. That said, Kiev beats Moscow in terms of freebie action, even though things have improved here in Moscow during the kreesis. Dyevs in Kiev just seem so... desperate. I love it!

[Eros74]

Moscow is very different from Kiev. Before of all, there is no professional prostitutes...

I agree, they are no professional at all, they are totally GFE in most of cases

[Doctor_Skank]

Moscow is very different from Kiev. Before of all, there is no professional prostitutes (for foreigners), they are 99.99 % cheating and dangerous, when you go to their apartments-brothels, you are in a mouse trap: read my detailed explainations in April 2009.

Kiev is definitely better than Moscow, but world is changing very fast.

C'mon Acon. That's ridiculous.

99% of the salons are cheating and dangerous? More like 99% are completely safe.

Kiev vs. Moscow is another story, the cities are less alike than one might think, both with their positive and negative sides.

[Harlei]

I saw Julia on these sites :

http://www.girl-directory.com/russia...t.php?ID=16570 and
http://www.sexyindependentescorts.co...ndent-552.html

Several months ago and after several letters decided to invite her to my hotel when I am in Moscow. The price was too much and I aksed for a small discount, she immediately agreed.

When the woman went into my room it seemed to me that her face was strained and tired, looked like she had had several customers before me. Her hair smelled not fresh as well, under the eyes there were bruises- I could imagine that shehad been working intensely.

She stopped being more or less friendly after she got her 250 euro. Also on the telephone I didn't feel that so much, but she had terrible accent that was hard to understand, so after some short time I just stopped trying to make some kind of conversation and decided to get to the process. She was not against, immediately went to the bathroom.

Before tried to torture me with the question if I had a shower or not, but so far she was one hour late I explained it to her several times that I had enough time to get cleaned. When she went to the bathroom I wondered why she was so persistent about my going to the bathroom, may be to steal something and leave. It could be like this as the continuation was just even worse. The beginning was just frustrating, but I decided to go on, just wondered how far these girls can go.

So when she came from the bathroom and I put a way the towel she was holding, I discovered that she has not tits at all! Where are the tits, I was thinking trying to get my Brother act or move, also she was fat, the ass looked miserable. I lied down thinking that after such a fake as her site and the photos on the site she could at least be more active to work out the money she took from me. She began to perform something that could be oral in a rubber, without initiative and nearly dyeing. I understood that there will be no use in all these and decided to finish with the meeting, took her from behind and tried from the back helping my brother with the hand, She was absolutely dry and squeezed my legs with hers in the way for me not to be able to go deep. I was on the edge of throwing her out of my room exactly at this moment but kept myself from doing it, try not to be rude with women whoever they are.

After unsuccessful attempts of getting what I have paid for, I asked her for message. She tried to show that she is performing a kind of message, that was in fact pinching me with her cold hands. I asked to stop, she looking unsatisfied and lied down as though waiting when I let her go home. Also want to add that the telephone was ringing all the time until I asked her to switch it off. I was again as angry as I wanted to throw her out of my room and in fact that was what I did.

I took her bag and threw it to the door demanding to return 150 euro, explaining that instead of a young happy escort girl from the photos I got an old tired street prostitute that can hardly speak English and is not able to perform anything for the money that took from me. I saw that it made some effect, at least she understood, she looked frightened, took the bag and disappeared in the bathroom. I confirmed my intention to take my money back telling her that I could ask for a guards of the hotel (that I would never do) and tell him that she stole some things from me. I was so angry that was ready for this!

Looked like she also didn't want a scandal as was a frequent visitor of the hotel. She came out of the bathroom, put 150 euro on the table and silently went away.

I have never had such a disgusting escort experience as that! Instead of a girl from the photo I had a cheap shabby bold *****, who is in her late 30ies.

The photos resemble her, but in reality she is fatter with no bust much older and more simple.

http://www.escort24h.net/escorts/gallery/Julia2.html

http://www.sexyindependentescorts.co...ndent-552.html

I was writing before about this provider and described my bad experience with her. Then found one more negative review (that I am adding here) after which this fake Julia disappeared from the field, I have just noticed that she changed a bit photos and appeared again!

here is where she appears and her site:

http://www.girl-directory.com/russia...t.php?ID=16570

http://www.escort24h.net/escorts/gallery/Julia2.html

http://www.sexyindependentescorts.co...ndent-552.html

I am quoting one review of her service and add mine, as well as I am attaching her pics for you not to be cheated again by this fake Julia and her site.

Julia- one of the worst ways to spend the money

I also met her two months ago.

The body is not young, marks of folds and cellulite, the belly is also spoilt by cakes and buns (looks like?), we tried oral, though she put it with the hands, very painful, that made my last attempts to perform anything impossible.

I couldn't get excited as she was not the girls I expected from the photos,

http://www.Girl-directory.com/russia-escort.php? ID=16570

She was also visibly in bad mood and when I tried to flirt with her at the beginning of our meeting and pet her bottom she got really mad. So I would agree with the previous opinion, the behavior is not normal at all.


Also opened Natasha two months ago and now have been meeting her nearly on a regular basis :
http://www.girl-directory.com/russia-escort.php?ID=9580

The price is more than reasonable for the experience I get, real virtuoso in her profession, loves sex, sophisticated and with lots of passion in bed.
Slim, well-groomed, model like looks, not very young (in her mid 30ies I quess) but this just adds charm and gloss to her, very easy in communication , she is much better in bed than most of the young "beauties" I met. Very passionate and sweet girl .

[Ziggy Ines]

Anybody had experience with Salon Blondinki near Krasnoe Varota metro?

[Jake993]

... It occurred to me that if she is using her info to register all of Rick's guests, won't someone, somewhere in the Russian bureaucracy, put 2 + 2 together and wonder why this young women has such a constant stream of western men visiting her!

I don't think anyone in the Russia bureaucracy CARES!!!!!

[Vigilantemoscow]

I am actually surprised commercially savvy individualkas are not already advertising this service for an extra 1k-2k Rbl. Not difficult to imagine long lines in the morning at the local post office of.by then well relaxed- gentleman being accompanied to get registered. I would call that a full managed service!

точно!

As a visitor, you don't have an address, by definition, so they use the address of the person who is registering you.

I figured this out when I stayed at one of Rick's apartments, and the girl came back with my passport and registration form. It was in her name and with her address. It occurred to me that if she is using her info to register all of Rick's guests, won't someone, somewhere in the Russian bureaucracy, put 2 + 2 together and wonder why this young women has such a constant stream of western men visiting her!

[Nickc]

Thanks for info regards registering. Work has me in Moscow and surrounds from March 1st. See you there, I’ll be the guy in the dark purple shirt. Cheers Nick C

[Stravinsky]

точно!

As a visitor, you don't have an address, by definition, so they use the address of the person who is registering you.

I figured this out when I stayed at one of Rick's apartments, and the girl came back with my passport and registration form. It was in her name and with her address. It occurred to me that if she is using her info to register all of Rick's guests, won't someone, somewhere in the Russian bureaucracy, put 2 + 2 together and wonder why this young women has such a constant stream of western men visiting her!