East China - Shanghai

[Blacklisted]

I read your posts and the replies with interest and growing perplexity Starono. Might I enquire as to why you would want to bring a hooker to meet your colleagues? Perhaps I am in the wrong industry, but it strikes me as just a tad strange.

Wouldn't you be embarrassed by the fact your colleagues, particularly if they are Chinese, would already be well aware that your 'date' is in fact a call girl?

Or are you hoping to develop some kind of sense of achievement by turning up to a function with a hot tall local girl on your arm with the thought in your mind that everyone will think you picked her up with James Bond like charm?

Sorry if I sound rude, but I just don't get your objective here.

I can understand the desire to have sex with a super hot female, although personally prefer the challenge of doing so on a budget much lower than 300 US.

The guys are pretty right when they say things don't really work the Pretty Woman way over here. It's a different and much more interesting world that can take a bit of getting used to but is an absolute blast once you get there.

Strings really only get attached when we let them, I think - be it a freebie or a paybee. It is not difficult to purchase a second sim card and phone and then ditch the sim when you want to ditch the girl. It's not like the 'emotional' trappings are going to haunt you forever.

Best of luck with your trip and your findings may just be a great new insight into options less considered in China if it all works out. Look forward to reading your report!

Woops! Somehow missed this post. I wish this board were real-time! I define high class as a girl I can bring to an upscale company dinner without being embarrassed: young, educated, pretty - of course, beauty is subjective. Anyways, good info here - thanks! I'll post updates as I clear the rounds.

My question did not say unlimited; I imposed a limit of around 300. Perhaps the scene in China is completely different from Europe, where $300 is a mere 1-2 hours for a high class escort. I defined high class above and sauna / bbs / probably KTV girls would not fit the bill. There seems to be a disconnect between what I'm looking for and what is expressed on these forums. I'm not looking for a 60 minute session every night and that's it. I'm looking for a girl I can take out to dinner, meet with colleagues, and have fun with afterwards; most importantly, I'm looking to do this without the emotional strings that come with looking for a relationship.

[FernandoAlonso]

I agree with you Starono - there isn't a lot of info here on this. And also, the prejudice against BSD here is totally unwarranted and lame, IMHO. After all, aren't we here to report and get info, ie to share?

Thanks mate for your friendly words.

First post here from someone evidently not knowing much about China but willing to shell out 300 US$ for LT and I am prejudiced and lame. What information is shared here that is new? There is info on expensive options but due to the crack down since October we have been careful what is published and as said the higher priced options bring you very close to people who do not want us to intermingle with their interests. Escorts are mainly a rip off in China as they target visitors. Nobody even in Shanghai needs to pay 300 US$ for LT, even more you are not guaranteed better looks and service. The first may be a bit more likely, the latter we can discuss for hours.

It is everybodys own decision how to dispose his money, but I think it is not lame to point out that this amount is not market conform here.

I think I was even trying to help and give info, certainly more than he has so far contributed.

So thanks again for your friendliness

FA

[FernandoAlonso]

Woops! Somehow missed this post. I wish this board were real-time! I define high class as a girl I can bring to an upscale company dinner without being embarrassed: young, educated, pretty - of course, beauty is subjective. Anyways, good info here - thanks! I'll post updates as I clear the rounds.

My question did not say unlimited; I imposed a limit of around 300. Perhaps the scene in China is completely different from Europe, where $300 is a mere 1-2 hours for a high class escort. I defined high class above and sauna / bbs / probably KTV girls would not fit the bill. There seems to be a disconnect between what I'm looking for and what is expressed on these forums. I'm not looking for a 60 minute session every night and that's it. I'm looking for a girl I can take out to dinner, meet with colleagues, and have fun with afterwards; most importantly, I'm looking to do this without the emotional strings that come with looking for a relationship.

Now I got you, you want the Pretty Woman arrangement, like in the movie. In the Beijing Forum there is some info, some Mongolians do that and Zhuren wrote a post about something similar. But again I have the feeling you know little about China and try to mirror a European or American custom to this country. I think this rarely exists here and will be outrageous expensive in relative terms. Second wifes are normally more common to serve your purpose but you do not have the time to arrange this, nor does it make sense for you. And many Chinese WGs you can take to any dinner without a problem but you really do not want to have them with you for a longer time. They may become clingy and annoying, exactly what you want to avoid.

This forum is not for cheaper options, in China 1000 RMB is outrageous expensive and as FS is available from 5 bucks upwards (40 LT) why spent 300?

FA

[Ed Heres]

Woops! Somehow missed this post. I wish this board were real-time! I define high class as a girl I can bring to an upscale company dinner without being embarrassed: young, educated, pretty. Of course, beauty is subjective. Anyways, good info here. Thanks! I'll post updates as I clear the rounds.

My question did not say unlimited; I imposed a limit of around 300. Perhaps the scene in China is completely different from Europe, where $300 is a mere 1-2 hours for a high class escort. I defined high class above and sauna / bbs / probably KTV girls would not fit the bill. There seems to be a disconnect between what I'm looking for and what is expressed on these forums. I'm not looking for a 60 minute session every night and that's it. I'm looking for a girl I can take out to dinner, meet with colleagues, and have fun with afterwards; most importantly, I'm looking to do this without the emotional strings that come with looking for a relationship.

Ok, so that's a Chinese Julia Roberts you're looking for, eh? I think that was only a movie.

[Bonzo1]

Try this. Go to one of the local saunas. The girl will fuck you. Slip a 100$ US note in her bag after the deed while she goes to dispose of the condom. Get her number. Not her telephone number, just her number at the Sauna. Go back the next day, ask for her, wait if she is busy. Slip 2 100 notes in her bag. Go back the third day. Use a made up name. All of the girls will know who you are. See what happens. And you have manufactured a 'high class' girl.

How in any world is that advise helpful?

I read your last post, S., and now better understand what you are looking for. There are some high class escorts you can find online...just be sure to read reviews as many are phony. Also, you can try posting ads on Asiaexpat etc. Just be very specific (without breaking the rules of the forums). If you do it right the girls will find you.

Don't bother with saunas or BBS's...you'll never find what you are looking for there. I still do believe, however, that you might find it in bars, but it would take a lot of effort. Online is indeed your best bet. I think I have a contact for you (though I never tried her) if you want to be a g-pig.

This forum, for better or worse, is more about low cost options. Please do keep us posted on your quest as I for one think it (this forum) would benefit from information about all options.

-B-

[Waldeck2]

Try this. Go to one of the local saunas. The girl will fuck you. Slip a 100$ US note in her bag after the deed while she goes to dispose of the condom. Get her number. Not her telephone number, just her number at the Sauna. Go back the next day, ask for her, wait if she is busy. Slip 2 100 notes in her bag. Go back the third day. Use a made up name. All of the girls will know who you are. See what happens. And you have manufactured a 'high class' girl.

I've read through 40 pages of material and have found nothing about higher class women. The closest I've seen is about English speaking providers by 5-star hotels. It seems that most members here care about value and that's why almost every report is about BBS or saunas. There is very little information about overnight stays in general, and practically nothing about higher class women.

If you say what I'm looking for is between pages 41-120, then perhaps I'll go read through it. But considering this should be a fairly common question, maybe it's time to push it back to the top, especially when the past 40 pages have nothing on the matter.

[Clean Gene]

... a sure-fire way to expend large amounts of cash.

I know an American of Syrian descent who simply advertises. He 'needs' a special Chinese partner to help him handle his business in Shanghai. Starting pay would be 20,000 yuan/month. And he then schedules interviews.

[Starono]

There are lots of "high class" women in Shanghai if by "high class" you mean smart, educated, with good jobs and enough English for an extended conversation. [...]

Woops! Somehow missed this post. I wish this board were real-time! I define high class as a girl I can bring to an upscale company dinner without being embarrassed: young, educated, pretty - of course, beauty is subjective. Anyways, good info here - thanks! I'll post updates as I clear the rounds.

Well if you read 40 pages I am happy I sent the friendly version. It is not a common question as nobody needs to spend 300 bucks to get beautiful enthusiastic girls in Shanghai. Your question implied you do not care about how much you pay. There is everything said about expensive overnights (bar girls) and the escort services (all suck). [...]

My question did not say unlimited; I imposed a limit of around 300. Perhaps the scene in China is completely different from Europe, where $300 is a mere 1-2 hours for a high class escort. I defined high class above and sauna / bbs / probably KTV girls would not fit the bill. There seems to be a disconnect between what I'm looking for and what is expressed on these forums. I'm not looking for a 60 minute session every night and that's it. I'm looking for a girl I can take out to dinner, meet with colleagues, and have fun with afterwards; most importantly, I'm looking to do this without the emotional strings that come with looking for a relationship.

[Sound7]

Randym, great report on Hotel Shanghi suana facility. Thanks for sharing.

Are these directions and map correct?.
Hotel Shanghai
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I am also a newbie - I've only been a member for about a week and I've learned so much - Thanks!

Went to the Shanghai Hotel - the rates were 750 after 7:00 and 650 before. There were other choices on the price board but I was never asked which service I wanted - it was a given I wanted the Special Massage.

[Starono]

I agree with you Starono - there isn't a lot of info here on this. And also, the prejudice against BSD here is totally unwarranted and lame, IMHO. After all, aren't we here to report and get info, ie to share?

I was also thinking KTV's as that is a sure-fire way to expend large amounts of cash. However, from what I've been reading, KTV girls aren't much better than sauna or bbs girls, except they can drink. Also, a large portion of the funds will go toward the room, food, drinks, and companionship. Taking out the girl herself isn't much more expensive or different than picking up a normal girl from a bar or hotel.

However, the KTV experience might be fun and I wouldn't mind going to a top notch establishment. Also, I'll be the guinea pig for the agencies. We'll see how it goes.

[Bonzo1]

I've read through 40 pages of material and have found nothing about higher class women. The closest I've seen is about English speaking providers by 5-star hotels. It seems that most members here care about value and that's why almost every report is about BBS or saunas. There is very little information about overnight stays in general, and practically nothing about higher class women.

If you say what I'm looking for is between pages 41-120, then perhaps I'll go read through it. But considering this should be a fairly common question, maybe it's time to push it back to the top, especially when the past 40 pages have nothing on the matter.

I agree with you Starono - there isn't a lot of info here on this. And also, the prejudice against BSD here is totally unwarranted and lame, IMHO. After all, aren't we here to report and get info, ie to share?

Anyway, there are certainly options. First and foremost I'd say KTV's - there are plenty of high class ones. Jin Bi on Huai Hai lu comes to mind. Search KTV's and I think several reported on here should be high class. KTV girls definitely offer the highest end in terms of money and of attractiveness (on a consistent basis I mean, not that you can't find hot girls everywhere). Bear in mind though those are really for groups, not solo appearances.

Escorts are probably not your best bet, and few of us locals ever use them, but if you do I'd recommend getting recommendations from some sites that specialize in that. I think there's one called TheEscortReview or something similar. If you go this way let us know how it goes!

PM me and I'll send you a couple links I found that look interesting.

Do NOT try craigslist - fake photos and upsells galore.

Other options might be the clubs. Haven't done that for a while so can't tell you the best ones at the moment, but Bar Rouge used to get reported on some. Babyface and Muse sometimes too. Personally though I can usually find what I want at Manhattan, and usually I don't spend more than 1000 RMB unless I'm going for a threesome or more. Almost all girls there are LT btw (for the 1000 or less).

There are better and worse saunas - you might give one a try. But personally I usually reserve that for Macau since there are usually much better lineups there.

hmm...what else? Wish I could give you more advice - maybe some others can add to this?

Let us know how it goes!

Cheers

-B-

[FernandoAlonso]

I've read through 40 pages of material and have found nothing about higher class women. The closest I've seen is about English speaking providers by 5-star hotels. It seems that most members here care about value and that's why almost every report is about BBS or saunas. There is very little information about overnight stays in general, and practically nothing about higher class women.

If you say what I'm looking for is between pages 41-120, then perhaps I'll go read through it. But considering this should be a fairly common question, maybe it's time to push it back to the top, especially when the past 40 pages have nothing on the matter.

Well if you read 40 pages I am happy I sent the friendly version. It is not a common question as nobody needs to spend 300 bucks to get beautiful enthusiastic girls in Shanghai. Your question implied you do not care about how much you pay. There is everything said about expensive overnights (bar girls) and the escort services (all suck).

Higher class girls may be found in KTVs, but they do not give you better service. And real higher class girls do not need to become prostitutes, they marry rich businessmen or become their second wife. They do not need to learn English.

So honestly I still do not understand what you want and why it should not be here. The 10s are very difficult to find and mostly not available for foreign tourist visitors.

But what do I know, just my 2 cents

FA

[Mark17]

Wow, I expected the city to be back in full swing, but it seems half the people are still gone...

Good thing my Filipino friend is here to keep me company..
Malones is dead... even some of the girls that hang out in Manhattan were there looking.. but not much there. They said Manhattan is slow to... "business is bad" .... funny, but they wont drop their rates...

[Ed Heres]

there are lots of "high class" women in shanghai if by "high class" you mean smart, educated, with good jobs and enough english for an extended conversation. one finds them in the same places one would anywhere. nice clubs, where they work, on the street or subway if you happen to have eye contact and an opening for a gambit. occasionally one or two might be on websites like "enjoy shanghai" or other expat sites, but that's rare. most of the ads on the sites in shanghai are hookers or their pimps (if the english is really good with western idioms, it's probably a foreign pimp who wrote it).

hotel workers are interesting people and if you are staying at one of the nicer ones (or just visiting or having dinner there), the girls and women will be more forthcoming initially because it's part of their job.

if by "high class" you mean a good looking hooker, then you need to go to the better saunas or the bars in the five-star hotels. it will be like bill murray in "lost in translation" and you have to be patient. usually if you are just doing your thing and not "looking, " that's when one will find you. but that's for money and the price can be high as the other guys have said.

there are enough "high class" non-hookers (just nice girls and women) with enough curiosity about foreigners and the english language that you'll be an attraction unless you dress like a biker and talk like a sailor. that can and should wait until you get to know her/them a little better. two things to remember. and enough guys have talked about this too. the moral standards for non-working girls in china are about 1956 on a usa model and despite how they may act or what they may say, chinese girls are very circumspect and very jealous. the influence of parents (even for older girls), and the importance of virginity (even in cities like shanghai), is astounding.

a little a patience and the usual tactics will work. better here than in your native country. but if you run around with "fuck me! fuck me! " plastered on your face or in your body or spoken language, you'll be in the same dumb ass fix in shanghai that you would be anywhere else.

you're right that these boards have a lot of inside [CodeWord116] and not a lot of easy-to-obtain "how-to" information (like good directions) and, for me, a little too much gynecological photography ("look, i can really put my dick in here!). but all-in-all, this is a very rich and very helpful set of mostly reliable information from a whole spectrum of guys with a really diverse set of interests. hopefully, you've paid your dues so you can contact guys directly.

good hunting.

i've read through 40 pages of material and have found nothing about higher class women. the closest i've seen is about english speaking providers by 5-star hotels. it seems that most members here care about value and that's why almost every report is about bbs or saunas. there is very little information about overnight stays in general, and practically nothing about higher class women.

if you say what i'm looking for is between pages 41-120, then perhaps i'll go read through it. but considering this should be a fairly common question, maybe it's time to push it back to the top, especially when the past 40 pages have nothing on the matter.

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here for more information.

[Comrade 2255]

I've read through 40 pages of material and have found nothing about higher class women. The closest I've seen is about English speaking providers by 5-star hotels. It seems that most members here care about value and that's why almost every report is about BBS or saunas. There is very little information about overnight stays in general, and practically nothing about higher class women.

If you say what I'm looking for is between pages 41-120, then perhaps I'll go read through it. But considering this should be a fairly common question, maybe it's time to push it back to the top, especially when the past 40 pages have nothing on the matter.

There are some expensive stunners listed @ http://www.bodymassage.com.cn

Please report the results!