Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[Rubberyman]

Come on guys forget this Moral Oral shit! Sex tourists and sex expats arguing about bare back fucking young Filipinas and filling their banana splits with whipped cream makes as much sense as drug dealers arguing that each is more ethical than the other because they treat the crackheads they sell to much better, and have more consideration for the hardships they face in life.

Not sure I follow you.

Do you mean that having sex is bad, therefore adding the fact that making someone suffer is not really adding anything to the 'sin'?

I guess the point people are making is that they think having sex is ok, but making other people suffer for it is not ok.

Of course if it matters not to you - that is your opinion. However, some people are happy with a position that having sex for money without other people having to suffer an unwanted pregnancy is better than not giving a shit.

I guess the other point is (if I cannot get you to worry about the hardships of others) is that the more that mongers maltreat the ladies, the more they are going to try to scam us in return - and some of them will succeed. IMO, the most vulnerable are often those that think they are the smartest.

[Member #4491]

The specific girl I was referring to was hoping and counting on the promised relation with a stand up guy, rather than a sex tourist running away.

CM, you analogy halts in my opinion.

With that reasoning it would be just the same to sell an adult crack as to making someone addicted by first establishing trust and then tricking the drug into the persons system without telling.

Empathy is not binary. It can be applied also if you pay (right away) for sex.
It is an endless discussion here, but in my opinion it is crystal clear how and where to make distinction between what is OK and what is not OK. It would - in my world - not be OK to knock up even the worst ***** in the Philippines if it was done on false promises. The implications for the woman and the baby is simply to large. And for me theres is no relevance if it done by many other pinoys or if I am engaging in something else that is "immoral" and might cause the girl negative long term consequences. Two wrongs does not make one right. With the slippery slope reasoning we could just as well be banging 12 year olds.

Barba

“It's a slippery slope, Carrie. Without boundaries you never know what might happen."

[Jan 156]

Come on guys forget this Moral Oral shit! Sex tourists and sex expats arguing about bare back fucking young Filipinas and filling their banana splits with whipped cream makes as much sense as drug dealers arguing that each is more ethical than the other because they treat the crackheads they sell to much better, and have more consideration for the hardships they face in life.

ROFL. You have a point. But mostly I think as any such discussion is outside the scope of the thread. I make a distinction between people post reports and those who just make idle chitchat.

I met a very nice banana lady in Oil Wrestling Bar (Barretto) who was considerate enough to be honest before I made a fool of myself. But I stayed to watch her dance before I split. She smelt a bit funny - probably the drugs she was on - but was ironically sexier, more feminine, and a far better dancer than any her friends that did not face such hardships. So beware!

[Chocha Monger]

Come on guys forget this Moral Oral shit! Sex tourists and sex expats arguing about bare back fucking young Filipinas and filling their banana splits with whipped cream makes as much sense as drug dealers arguing that each is more ethical than the other because they treat the crackheads they sell to much better, and have more consideration for the hardships they face in life.

[Yella Man]

Yella Man, he happened to be an American prick. I do not care for discriminating nationalities in either direction.

Davao is a small place and I am pretty sure some of the readers here can identify him be these few details.

So all of you Davao locals who suspect who it is - yes, the prick made number five now.

B

I'm sure I could figure it out if I did a little research. I already have an idea who you might be talking about. Bastards wrong that's for sure!

YM

[Member #4491]

Yella Man, he happened to be an American prick. I do not care for discriminating nationalities in either direction.

Davao is a small place and I am pretty sure some of the readers here can identify him be these few details.

So all of you Davao locals who suspect who it is - yes, the prick made number five now.

B

[Ben2]

I don't believe anyone should post not to worry if you get a girl pregnant, as she can't do anything about it. Robb

We all know that their are a lot of jerks out there....guys who only think with their dick and when can I cum again....they are pathetic. It's so freaking easy to fuck as many as you can without getting the gal pregnant! And yet, these boneheads call their offspring bastards and ignore their responsibility.
Now, before you flame me, if the shoe fits, then it's you.
I, as well as many of the mongers on this site have had our fair share of pussy and then some without getting gals pregnant! Fuck...it's a sad site to drive down the street and see all these young kids begging for food, etc.
Sure, most have parents who put them up to it....but many don't. Rags for clothes, etc. and here we have idiots getting more women pregnant!
I will admit, at times, the gal will lie and say that she is on the pill, etc....still, that's no excuse....have her suck your dick if you have any doubts! But don't contribute to the mess! Three "F's;" feed 'em, fuck 'em and forget 'em! But use common sense!
If you get her pregnant, own up to it and your responsibility and take care of you child! If not, I hope bad luck sticks on you like a fly on do-do!

[Robbaf]

Are you serious? Man theres how many fatherless kids running around there already. The pinoys screw the gals and then leave. I guess it's different if it's a foreigner. A money thing you know.

Philapino women are like natives to canada. The only difference in canada the natives get free cash. Too bad mr. Pinoy can't support his bastard kids. Just run to the next warm vagina and make another one. Can't be all bad. A bag of rice can feed how many? A family of 10 I figure.

I don't believe anyone should post not to worry if you get a girl pregnant, as she can't do anything about it.

Robb

[Tungsten Chef]

Why would you post this? Any guy should not be fucking any girl here without a condom if you can father kids. I think it is wrong to knock up a girl here who already has a hard life and now you made it twice as hard for her. I hope any guy that does get a girl pregnant and runs away gets his due Karma:(

Try living here for awhile and see how hard some locals have it.

Robb

Are you serious? Man theres how many fatherless kids running around there already. The pinoys screw the gals and then leave. I guess it's different if it's a foreigner. A money thing you know.

Philapino women are like natives to canada. The only difference in canada the natives get free cash. Too bad mr. Pinoy can't support his bastard kids. Just run to the next warm vagina and make another one. Can't be all bad. A bag of rice can feed how many? A family of 10 I figure.

[Member #3428]

Why would you post this? Any guy should not be fucking any girl here without a condom if you can father kids. I think it is wrong to knock up a girl here who already has a hard life and now you made it twice as hard for her. I hope any guy that does get a girl pregnant and runs away gets his due Karma:(

Try living here for awhile and see how hard some locals have it.

Robb

Agree with you 100% and stated I take care my own; however it is a double edged sword. Without those young single mothers then many of the guys out there would not be banging these girls for 1,000 to 4,000 peso a day or whatever. Not justifying it just stating a fact. If guys supported the kids they fathered then the qty of P4P would dry up all over SEA. It would still be around but the variety and qty would diminish. Not justifying it or moralizing it just stating a fact.

An excellent point. And also very unusual to stop so close to the finish line. If the mother is able to handle a US embassy interview (most aren't) then things are probably OK. I'd still recommend seeing the process through to completion. Even with the cert. Once the child becomes an adult they lose the ability to claim citizenship (at least for the US). Maybe even earlier. I'd recommend pushing that last step. It only takes a few hours and once the child is issued a US passport there is absolutely no room for future discussion or confusion.

Even so. That is so much more then most do!

Step back and read my report again.... "I've pushed the paperwork through" which includes the passports. Not every family wants a passport or to acknowledge who the father is, but I've at least forced the girls to get the consular report of live birth abroad paper which you NEED before you can get a passport.

I'm betting that 99.99999% of the board doesn't know what a consular report of live birth abroad is and that it is equivalent to a US birth certificate and that it is mandatory item before a passport. I'll bet you they think it is walking a baby into a US building and applying for a passport.

Getting a mixed blood child (especially from a girl who is obviously a working girl or who was whoring herself out), in a foreign country, Citizenship to the US or other countries is NOT a simple 1, 2, 3 step process. You're not doing it in a day or two. And if the girl or the family is against or doesn't know about you (the monger) then that makes things even more difficult.

Let us not judge what ye not know.... I've crossed every finish line if the lady and her family establishes a finish line. So you know there is one Hi Society family in one SEA country that refuses to allow their daughter to marry a foreigner.

[Chocha Monger]

Exercise extreme caution with signing birth certificates and getting US passports for your little bastards abroad. It is true that foreign courts may not be able to hold your feet to the fire but once you acknowledge paternity and obtain US citizenship for the child you open the possibility of being sued for child support in US courts if the mother of the child, a relative, or someone holding guardianship arrives in the United States and decides to make you a cash cow. I have seen this happen before. In some cases the more determined mothers gained entry to the US illegally to pursue the matter. Once the documents are presented child support services will pursue you relentlessly across state lines going so far as to revoke your US passport if deemed necessary to coerce you into making payments. Even if you are supporting your child in the Philippines 20% of your gross US income can make you a tempting target for a hungry woman and her family.

Do not sign birth certificates or acknowledge paternity in any way until you have a positive paternity test from a reputable laboratory. Don’t ever assume that you were the only foreigner fucking a Filipina. A child’s appearances are never enough to make a determination of paternity. After proof of paternity has been obtained support your child or children by all means. However, if you want to keep the US government out of determining how much your support should be in dollars then steer clear of the embassy until a couple years before the child becomes an adult. Good intentions translated into actions often have unintended and unwanted consequences. It is often said that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[Robbaf]

This is partly in response to all the American bashing as of late. Understand that Americans are living in state of fear. (insert several paragraphs about war, the economy, civil rights, privacy) So the "I'm pregnant" call just heaps a ton of uncertainty on an already battered individual.

Rest easy though... should you actually knock up a girl here; and it's clearly your baby (through test or appearance) there is actually very little risk to owning up to it and signing the birth certificate IF YOU ARE AN AMERICAN.

The Philippines and the US have no reciprocity in place regarding child support even when paternity if proven / undisputed. So if you want to bail on your responsibilities - you are in the clear.

Citizens of these countries (Australia, Austria, Bermuda, Canada (by province) Czech Republic, Fiji, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Jamaica, Mexico, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Slovak Republic, South Africa, Sweden, United Kingdom (England, Scotland, N. Ireland)) can however be held to the judgment of a Philippine court order.

So if you are an American, sign the damn thing, take the little tyke to the embassy and obtain his / her US passport. If you won't or can't take care of the child (and the mother) you can at least give the kid a chance at someday getting out of this country and creating a better life.

Why would you post this? Any guy should not be fucking any girl here without a condom if you can father kids. I think it is wrong to knock up a girl here who already has a hard life and now you made it twice as hard for her. I hope any guy that does get a girl pregnant and runs away gets his due Karma:(

Try living here for awhile and see how hard some locals have it.

Robb

[Cunning Stunt]

.. United Kingdom (England, Scotland, N. Ireland)) can however be held to the judgment of a Philippine court order.

What about the Welsh? Just like them heathen taffy bastards to get away with it! But there being no sheep to shag in the Philippines, I don't suppose many of them get out here, in any case;).

[ShadowAxis]

An excellent point. And also very unusual to stop so close to the finish line. If the mother is able to handle a US embassy interview (most aren't) then things are probably OK. I'd still recommend seeing the process through to completion. Even with the cert. Once the child becomes an adult they lose the ability to claim citizenship (at least for the US). Maybe even earlier. I'd recommend pushing that last step. It only takes a few hours and once the child is issued a US passport there is absolutely no room for future discussion or confusion.

Even so. That is so much more then most do!

Holding Dual Citizenship myself.... You don't need a passport. All kids I've fathered have Consular reports of live birth abroad from the USA... Not just sign the local birth certificates but I have pushed all the paperwork through also. The report of live birth abroad is like a birth certificate coming from the USA and is what you do before a passport.

It's not a US issue, is a mongering issue, as I issue the reports for both citizenship I hold. My kids got more friggin nationalities then others as some are holding rights to four passports.

[Member #3428]

So if you are an American, sign the damn thing, take the little tyke to the embassy and obtain his / her US passport. If you won't or can't take care of the child (and the mother) you can at least give the kid a chance at someday getting out of this country and creating a better life.

Holding Dual Citizenship myself.... You don't need a passport. All kids I've fathered have Consular reports of live birth abroad from the USA... Not just sign the local birth certificates but I have pushed all the paperwork through also. The report of live birth abroad is like a birth certificate coming from the USA and is what you do before a passport.

It's not a US issue, is a mongering issue, as I issue the reports for both citizenship I hold. My kids got more friggin nationalities then others as some are holding rights to four passports.