Amateurs

[Jambo]

I wonder if some experienced mongers could advise me on this. I have often been mystified by the size of a girls pussy. Sometimes its tight when I expected looose, and all too often its loose when I expected tight!

One example. A gf in college. Great body, big tits, wide hips and long powerful legs. Pussy so wide I needed a wedge in there to get any grip. Mostly likely the wide hips on this girl contributed to the problem.

Working Girls. I've had a number, perhaps most WG that I've had in Thailand and Philippines, their pussy was fairly tight on initial entry. Is it possible they were not getting that many customers?

OTOH, I've had non-pro Philippina girl friends that were disappointingly loose inside. I could only guess that these girls were getting fucked regularly.

I can also attest to measurements taken from my former spouse. She was tight at first, and with regular use, loosened to a reasonable fit. Later, when we stopped having sex for months at a time, she became very tight again. I would have been delighted except for the months spend not getting any!

[Tile Man4]

Hi Bros,

I know that there are many recommendations by senior mongers about the quality of AFF, but i was wondering whether it is really worth getting a gold
membership.

Cheers,

HH

Hey Happy , I tried aff in my own area of the North East USA and I got shit. I only wanted to play a little. I maybe sent out 100 replies and maybe I got 2 answers back.

After a year , I decided to try China. I send out 100 replies again and got back 200 replies...... I want , I need you , I love you . That was a great song by Elvis. Common sense should tell us that there is something wrong with this picture too.

I am sure you know that AFF has marriage , married women looking , group sex and so on and so on. Its endless.

IMHO , AFF is shit but it can still get your foot in the door to what your looking for. I did not worry about the money cost on AFF , but I did waste lots of time and you know that time is money.

Maybe let us know what you want and we can help you more.

Good luck tile man.

[Keeper07]

aff is total bunk. sure, there may be some freaky women on there, but honestly if a woman wants to get their freak one why she use a pay service? many profiles of women on there are scammers too.

i assume for are looking for women in your home area.

i suggest yahoo as it is cheap, populus, and full of casual dating types. the pricey services like eharmony bring the more serious type on average and that is not what you are looking for. plug at yahoo hard and set up lots of meets for coffee dates. barnes and noble cafes are good. nothing more for a first meeting and plan for an hour or less. do not waste time emailing and phone calling for weeks on end. exchanging phone numbers is a bad idea before meeting. just keep setting up coffee dates and do not be discouraged if you get turned down or do not get responses from many women. if the woman will not meet for coffee after a couple contacts, move on. planning to go out dinner, a show, and such is just dumb for a first meeting taking up time, cash, and creating unneeded stress. use coffee chats to weed them out and procede accordingly. i have had good results with this method.

for your posting, put up at minimum four photos. include one formal (atleast a tie), one casual, and one at some sort of social event. keep things light, positive, and try to show some personality. read a lot of guys profiles before you write yours. do not go too short or long. use some humor. i got lots of run out of adding i have a tradition of peeing my name in the snow.

[Happy Harry]

Hi Bros,

I know that there are many recommendations by senior mongers about the quality of AFF, but i was wondering whether it is really worth getting a gold
membership.

Cheers,

HH

[Happy Harry]

Hi,

I was wondering does AFF really work?

I know that there are a lot of senior members who attest to its success.

Is it worth getting a premium account?

Cheers,

HH

[Long Stroker]

Does anyone know the fine print about emailing using this website?

I have a one month paid subscription, and as such I can send out unlimited emails, which you cannot do without an account.

I've received guinos (winks) from many girls, more than 50, but very few emails. I thought that if I initiated contact by emailing the girl, that the system would then allow her (even without her having a paid account) to reply to my email.

Is my thinking correct on this?

My conversational Spanish is insufficient to understand the rules on the website.

[El Austriaco]

SANTA MONICA, Calif. (MarketWatch) -- The richer you are, apparently, the better sex you have.

Now who would have thought of that? That having time and some disposable cash to pursue sex more actively usually translates into more and better sex? Well, not having a FT job and having to take care of the kids sure could have something to do with it. I mean, the average ISG reader could have told you that... for free.

Grove and Prince surveyed people with an average net worth of $89 million, and who make more than $9 million per year.

I am just glad that I found a way to have sex with less than $89 million... I even managed with $88 million. I guess what saved me this year is that I still make the $9 million a year mark... lucky me

For example, 72% of wealthy women say they have now joined the "mile high club," which means they have had sex in an airplane. Meanwhile, 33% of men say they have had sex in flight. The survey found that all of the participants owned private jets, either partially or outright. So wealth affording privacy may explain the high membership percentages there.

Well, I guess you could try it on a commercial flight in the lavoratories, though I am not sure what the flight marshalls might have to say about it. Just make sure you don't light up afterwards or tamper with a smoke detector.

The average age of the survey respondents was 57 and most of them, 85%, are currently married. More than half of respondents had been divorced at least once and almost half, 44%, had already remarried.
Yet, money doesn't instill a sense of fidelity: 53% of the wealthy men surveyed, and 73% of the wealthy women surveyed say they have had extramarital affairs.

Well, if I had $89 million in net worth and could do whoever I want to do whenever I want to do, I sure wouldn't be faithful. But the really troublesome question here: why would a fucking idiot even get married with that cash on the side?

...clearly having more money can add to the experience.

I guess the authors didn't have the slightest clue with this survey or what they were trying to prove or disprove. Just like the phone book: a collection of entirely unrelated, pointless numbers.

EA

[Excess]

More money, better sex
Especially for women, wealth has a liberating power, survey finds
By Thomas Kostigen, MarketWatch
Last Update: 7:57 PM ET Jan 30, 2007


SANTA MONICA, Calif. (MarketWatch) -- The richer you are, apparently, the better sex you have. That's according to a recent survey of more than 600 high-net-worth individuals. And rich women, it seems, enjoy sex the most.
"In seeking a higher-quality sexual experience the number of well-heeled women that lead more adventurous and exotic sex lives, have had an affair, or joined the mile-high club far outdistances that of men -- and the affluent gender gap in views on sex doesn't end there," Hannah Shaw Grove and Russ Alan Prince, two well-known researchers on the habits of the rich and famous, found.

Grove and Prince surveyed people with an average net worth of $89 million, and who make more than $9 million per year. They found that money is an enabler in a number of ways to enhance sexual experiences.
"The majority of men and women credit their private wealth with achieving a better sex life. When viewed separately, a larger percentage of women agree with the statement, perhaps indicating that females derive a greater degree of empowerment from their financial independence than their male counterparts," the survey, "Money as an Aphrodisiac -- Being Rich Means Getting Lucky on Your Own Terms," found.
Some 84% of rich women and 63% of rich men say having money means having better sex.
In the survey, three-quarters of men cited more frequent sex and a greater variety of partners as the primary benefits of having wealth, revealing a fascination with quantity. "In short, men equate more with better," Grove and Prince write.
By contrast, women placed significantly less value on the volume of sexual interactions and partners they had than the overall excellence of the experience: Nearly 93% of women cited higher-quality sex as the greatest sexual benefit of personal wealth -- and the biggest benefit overall to being rich. "And while having sex with multiple partners simultaneously was less important to both genders, more than three times as many men cited it as a benefit than women did," Grove and Prince said.
The rich people surveyed believe their fortunes allow them to lead more daring and exciting sex lives than they otherwise would have if they had less money.
"It is difficult to identify the benchmark for adventurous and exotic sex -- since what might entice one person could leave another indifferent," Grove and Prince noted. "But the much higher response rate from wealthy women once again underscores the liberating byproducts of money as it relates to sexual exploration."
For example, 72% of wealthy women say they have now joined the "mile high club," which means they have had sex in an airplane. Meanwhile, 33% of men say they have had sex in flight.
The survey found that all of the participants owned private jets, either partially or outright. So wealth affording privacy may explain the high membership percentages there.
The average age of the survey respondents was 57 and most of them, 85%, are currently married. More than half of respondents had been divorced at least once and almost half, 44%, had already remarried.
Yet, money doesn't instill a sense of fidelity: 53% of the wealthy men surveyed, and 73% of the wealthy women surveyed say they have had extramarital affairs.
According to "The Monogamy Myth: A Personal Handbook for Dealing with Affairs," 60% of men and 40% of women will have an extramarital affair.
And while Grove and Prince point out that the world's wealthiest men and women feel the same way about sex as their less wealthy counterparts do -- that is, feel sex is important -- clearly having more money can add to the experience.
(To see the full survey results and find out more about the habits of the wealthy, see www.hsgrove.com.)

[El Austriaco]

Concerning amateurs, I too prefer them. However, many a amateur might've never done this [trading sex for money] before in her life. So how do you approach such a girl? Getting to talk with girls is easy enough, especially when you're a tourist in a country where they don't receive a lot of 'm. But when - and how, especially - do you let them know what you had in mind? Preferably withouth causing a scene. I have no experience with that really, so those of others might come in hand.

OK, I am somehow missing something here. Paying a hooker for sex, great. It's the convenience of it, the control, you can have sex whenever you want, as much as you want, with as many different women as you want, indulge into your whims as to looks etc., without headaches. Got it.

Sex with non-pros (I guess that's what "amateur" is supposed to mean)? Great. The thrill of the chase, the ego boost you get from it, feeling desired and wanted and attractive and a stud. Plus, you don't have to pay for it. Got it.

But WHY, for crying out loud, would you want to find an "amateur who might never done this before".. and then PAY HER???????????? If she has done it before a few times, well, she is at least a semi-pro, not a regular girl... and then, what are you concerned about in terms of proposing to her? If she has never done it before, she is a regular girl, and you are actually making an offer to her that suggests that she is a hooker...

And that, my friend, can be a VERY DANGEROUS proposition, depending on where you go. Be careful with that.

Somehow, I think that you are looking for professional hookers that act like regular girls for you. No worries, there are tons of them. Sure would be much safer for you than proposing to regular girls...

EA

[Van Velen]

Try searching some of the Eastern European boards. Several links and suggestions can be found there.

Do you mean the boards here on ISG?

Concerning amateurs, I too prefer them. However, many a amateur might've never done this [trading sex for money] before in her life. So how do you approach such a girl? Getting to talk with girls is easy enough, especially when you're a tourist in a country where they don't receive a lot of 'm. But when - and how, especially - do you let them know what you had in mind? Preferably withouth causing a scene. I have no experience with that really, so those of others might come in hand.

[DJ FourMoney]

Just doing a bit of research on freebie websites and I saw this post about RSVP. When I lived in Australia, RSVP was free, and a very good Australian-based site. I had a good hit-rate and met up with many girls in various cities - nearly all wanted more than just "friendship" on the first date (dinner, wine, bed).

I focused on girls in their late-20s. Very successful, as I was in my 30s, and in petty good shape (at the time ). Girls in their late 20s are usually hoping to hook a man to settle down with for life, and use their best weapon in trying (can you guess what that is? ).

Yes, a few were slightly scewed up, but good fun. Some were average in looks, but some were hot hot hot. Even stunners have a hard time finding a guy sometimes. One buxom and georgeous Sri-Lankan girl and I had a sex-crazy affair for months. I'll never forget how she always shouted obscenites in her pseudo-upper-class British accent during sex. Ah memories.

Question: I'm looking for free websites where I might hook up with Eastern-European/CIS girls - any suggestions?

Try searching some of the Eastern European boards. Several links and suggestions can be found there.

[Piper1]

...Another of my friends registered with dating services in australia, RSVP from memory. His objectives were honerable, a wife, but he ended up getting one night stands with slighlty screwed up women...

Just doing a bit of research on freebie websites and I saw this post about RSVP. When I lived in Australia, RSVP was free, and a very good Australian-based site. I had a good hit-rate and met up with many girls in various cities - nearly all wanted more than just "friendship" on the first date (dinner, wine, bed).

I focused on girls in their late-20s. Very successful, as I was in my 30s, and in petty good shape (at the time ). Girls in their late 20s are usually hoping to hook a man to settle down with for life, and use their best weapon in trying (can you guess what that is? ).

Yes, a few were slightly scewed up, but good fun. Some were average in looks, but some were hot hot hot. Even stunners have a hard time finding a guy sometimes. One buxom and georgeous Sri-Lankan girl and I had a sex-crazy affair for months. I'll never forget how she always shouted obscenites in her pseudo-upper-class British accent during sex. Ah memories.

Question: I'm looking for free websites where I might hook up with Eastern-European/CIS girls - any suggestions?

[Organicgrowth]

George90

OK. I stand correct. In the final analysis I would agree with your comments when one considers a man who wants to look for a long-term / permanent / soul-mate / wife. I also agree that the majority of chicas will be looking for the same and that there will be a few barracudas amongst these. I would add that IMHO its better to remain young, free and single: two out of three of these will be with us for life!

Regards,

Havanaman

[George90]

Gentlemen,

LOL, but excuse me.

I just can not believe what I am reading. Stay single, guys! One day you will look back and see the error of your ways. (Flash-back sequence…) The imported chica uses your phone to call her lawyer to see how much she can have of your hard earned money when she decides its time to move on ~ essentially to listen to her new found friends… ~ essentially to become an American Women… (see appropriate thread…).

Better to live life to the full, go anywhere, do anything and anyone… stay free and keep the faith!

Regards

Respectfully, Havanaman, you are only partly correct.

While there are many gold-diggers and greencard sharks in other countries looking to prey on AM's worse than AW's do, the majority have no such designs. I have used marriage agencies to meet marriage minded foriegn women. The vast majority I met were very sincere. In fact, almost all are put off by our strong materialism and "need" to win her over by showing her all of our glorious possessions. They feel we are buying them.

Some do respond to the gifts, the financial "help", and "English lessons" by agreeing to marry us and then divorcing us after the required 2 years. But if a man does not flaunt his money he will not catch a gold-digger. A man MUST realize that these women are NOT AW's, money is NOT their "bell" as it is for the US Pavlov's dogs. He has to treat them differently.

When he does he gets a wonderful woman who makes him an excellent wife!

I prefer Latin America and suggest a variety of agencies. My Foriegn Bride, My Latin Rose, My Latin Flame, Latin Euro Girls, A Foreign Affair, Cherry Blossoms, Mail Order Brides, etc.

[Organicgrowth]

Gentlemen,

LOL, but excuse me.

I just can not believe what I am reading. Stay single, guys! One day you will look back and see the error of your ways. (Flash-back sequence…) The imported chica uses your phone to call her lawyer to see how much she can have of your hard earned money when she decides its time to move on ~ essentially to listen to her new found friends… ~ essentially to become an American Women… (see appropriate thread…).

Better to live life to the full, go anywhere, do anything and anyone… stay free and keep the faith!

Regards