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10-14-13 17:21 #3485
Posts: 3700Originally Posted by HelpRules [View Original Post]
Its good music everywhere, and its sung with passion. There is no guaranteed financial reward, they sing fir the love of Cuban music. From the jazz at la Zorra why el Cuervo to Casa de Musica. From the beach to guys singing on the Malecon. Its everywhere.
From the ancient buildings that are untouched over the last 100 years to the Spanish history that still stands.
From the people who make the best of a bad situation. To the beautiful women who still make love with passion. To the romantic air that makes Cubans still believe in romance.
I really am starting to dislike guys that go there exclusively to exploit the island for its pretty women who fuck for less. Respect the island and the people and you will receive all the rewards the island has to offer. Go there looking for the next Rio fuck fest and the people will see through your deception.
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10-14-13 08:50 #3484
Posts: 360Originally Posted by Combo [View Original Post]
As far as Colombia, been there, but the clubs aren't great. The girls are hardcore and hot, but not much to do there. I will go back one day, but I assume there are more things to do in Cuba during the dead time, and from what I gather the cuban girls are not as hardcore.
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10-14-13 06:00 #3483
Posts: 1749Originally Posted by HelpRules [View Original Post]
Cuba's glory days for mongering were back in the 90s. It was a free-for-all with no police concern with chica-tourist interaction. I was lucky enough to go in '99. I went again in '01 after the early crackdowns began and it was noticeably worse. I am going to try it again in January 2014. However, my trip is as much about music and dance as it is about chicas. I would not go back to Cuba if I was only interested in pussy. Colombia or the DR make alot more sense in that regard.
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10-14-13 02:09 #3482
Posts: 322Forgive me, my ADHD may have gotten the better of me. I too don't hang with the elites of Cuba, I. 90 percent of the time, live with them in their barrios. I love the Cuban people.
Originally Posted by Mr Gogo [View Original Post]
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10-13-13 23:43 #3481
Posts: 3601) I read some more reports, and the more recent reports of distinction, which werent that many in the last 5 years, so let me know if I have this about right. There are 2 main clubs where all the girls are hookers, like HELP in Rio. I forgot the names of the clubs. The girls go for about 60 to 100 cuc, which if I am right, is about 70 to 110 dollars, since you don't get 1 to 1 like xe. Com shows. Some of the guys say don't pay more than 25 dollars for a girl. Is this doable in the main 2 takeout clubs. I only bang girls in the 8 to 10 range. I like to pay the going rate. I never pay more and I usually don't care about haggling for much less, but if the going rate is 25 dollars, I would rather pay that, and have a hell of a lot of fun, but I have a feeling it's going to be 50 to 70 american dollars a pop at the nice clubs. You never know what these girls look like that are 25 dollars. I understand that doctors make like 50 dollars a month, but guys are suckers for hot girls with DD, so doctor's salaries salary aren't material when a hot chick is staring you in the face. Although, If I could get 9 and 10's for 50 dollars a night with no hassle, I would have so much fun. It would be like Brazil all over.
2) If you want girls for cheaper, you can get them walking around the streets, and that price will depend on your negotiating skills I assume. Stay at a casa, so you don't have to pay the guard to get the girl up. Are there any hotels where there are no extra charges for girls. I really like staying at hotels. Its safer and I can put my money in the safe when the girl is in the room. I got the impression from reading the reports that just about all the girls walking around are for sale, since they have plenty of free time, and their major needs are met by the government.
3) There are no strip clubs from what I read. Is this correct. That sucks. I really like seeing the body w / o all the clothes that can hide alot. Although, the reports show that these girls all have great bodies. I guess all that walking and no fast food will do that for you.
Please comment on my summary of Cuba. I want to go before it opens up to capitalism, because those rich guys from miami and the northeast are going to ruin it for us all. How much do you think the girls will be charging when Cuba becomes a open country again. Any estimates.
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10-13-13 19:03 #3480
Posts: 360Originally Posted by Velasco [View Original Post]
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10-13-13 18:03 #3479
Posts: 3700Originally Posted by Kalifornication [View Original Post]
I'm not here to get into the political situation in Cuba, people will find out when they go. But if you want to say that the people are lying in their opinions about Fidel to me, thats cool I guess. But in my post I never said the people in Cuba hate Fidel. I said past American governments and the South Florida Cubans hate Fidel.
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10-13-13 17:09 #3478
Posts: 322Words from the Petite bourgeoisie. You guys have no idea how life is on the ground in Cuba. It's about as diverse, in terms of opinions, as elsewhere. There are those that are fed up, those that are content and many in the middle. For the record, they don't hate Fidel. No matter how much they may say so, they don't. In any case, Fidel is effectively off the scene and, even assuming he is, Cuba is changing and changing rapidly. They will not lose their socialism, but it will indeed evolve. About girls being harassed, my girl has never been harassed not once in the past 5 years.
Originally Posted by Mr Gogo [View Original Post]
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10-13-13 05:21 #3477
Posts: 3700Originally Posted by Questner [View Original Post]
You have to put this into perspective. Everything centers around one person, Fidel. The past American governments hate Fidel. The south Florida Cubans hate Fidel. Even the people in Cuba wait for a world without El Presidente. Once this obstacle is not there everything changes. Now the question is does it change for the better with American involvement? I won't go deep into this topic, but I will say this; The Cuban people are probably the strongest group I have seen in dealing with an oppressed society.
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10-13-13 03:45 #3476
Posts: 1319Originally Posted by HelpRules [View Original Post]
Cops will detain a girl if she was known to police. While inside a taxi cops won't do anything. However the game is on when she steps out of the car. Moon guide is very good. For the feeling of what to expect see this movie preferably in Spanish: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1797348/?ref_=nv_sr_1
'7 Dias en la Habana' (2012)
On what has changed: It is like a circle of life, first comes the disease, then attempts to cure it, then coma, then death, horrible funeral on the outskirts, division of property, grief, denial, monument on the grave, death taxes, oblivion, etc. You decide where is Cuba now on her way with socialism, but I'll tell you, Cubans are fed up with the experiment long long time ago. That what has changed, there is no more hope in the regime.
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10-12-13 21:51 #3475
Posts: 360I just find it so odd that you can't hang with girls on the beach or ride in a taxi with a girl or the cops will arrest her because he assumes she is a prostitute. That is so insane, even for a socialist country. I have a god damn daddy watching over me on vacation. What if I go to the mall. Can I hit on girls there w / o the cops looking to arrest her.
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10-12-13 20:06 #3474
Posts: 741Originally Posted by HelpRules [View Original Post]
I found out that all the prostitutes were afraid of police. Every time I took a girl back to my casa we had to take separate taxis. Not an issue for me but anyway it felt a bit strange.
In Cuba there was not the same relaxed atmosphere like in Colombia or Brazil where you can hang out with the birds on the beach drinking beer etc.
Anyway go there and have fun! If you have any other questions send me a PM.
-Kepp
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10-12-13 08:01 #3473
Posts: 88To HelpRules
Glad there are quite a few new people seeking information and planning to visit Cuba. A lot of the information you are looking for is pretty simple, basic stuff that you can get elsewhere. There are several places where you can get information, beginning with travel books and travel sites like Moon books, Frommer's etc. I think you should spend a little time perusing those places as you are seeking information that is necessary for ALL travelers (Accommodation, travel between cities, currency, food etc).
Yes, things have changed in the last 5 years, but Cuba is still worth a trip. I think once you have the foundation down I think you will be fine, especially since you have been to other places in Latin America. Just read as much of this forum as possible, take a few notes, have fun and report back. Good luck!
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10-11-13 19:19 #3472
Posts: 273Originally Posted by HelpRules [View Original Post]
As to why Cuba is not as good as it was 5 or 10 years ago. Probably no one can tell you. The scene in Cuba can change from week to week, depending on the whims of the local communist committee. I've had 1 or 2 trips (out of 12) which were a total bust, but others which were awesome. Americans have nothing to do with it.
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10-11-13 00:50 #3471
Posts: 3700Originally Posted by HelpRules [View Original Post]