Racism against foreigners in Thailand

[Dynolas]

It's hard to believe theirs racism in Thailand, even thou I'm American with Indian heritage (dark skinned) I never experianced racism instead the opposite. Everyone is extremely nice, I think the reason most Indians are having hard time and fealing racism (please don't take any offense to this) is because the way they are dressed, hygiene, smell (including overuse of Cologne / perfume) going in groups (seems intimidating unless you have a mixed group), being very cheap (biggest Indian stereotype) , manners and keeping composure. Also treating these women with a level of dignity and not some toy you can grope the moment you see her.

I hope most of Indians as well as other races from Asia and Middle East don't take any offense but instead to better yourself to prevent this ongoing stereotype racism so it will make it easy for the next generation mongers.

[Chad711]

Hi vivek,

As an Indian and somebody who's visited bangakok Pattaya and koh phagan my suggestion if you choose to take it, is that save up some more money a decent budget would be 1. 5 lacs inr and then visit.

Even though I am Indian I didn't face any problems when in Thailand. I always dress well more so in a foreign country. Always have a swag. Makes you stand out wear an expensive perfume even if you have to overdo it. Be honest have always told the girls I am from India and more specifically Mumbai. These girls know about Mumbai and it's bustling night life. Infaact I had a girl who was a fan of Indian movies, specifically bollywood.

Money talks everywhere so it would be better if also include the not so good times. It's a Russian roulette maybe you will find a girl at lower price with awesome service whereas there would be times where you pay a premium and don't get the satisfaction or pleasure you were hoping for.

Always plan for contingencies. In Bangkok shock bossy are Indian friendly and you might find good girls here. I had a girl who I repeated and she didn't even charge me the second time around and I just slipped some money when going out. Be genuine as girls like that.

Cheers happy hunting.

Hi,

I am Vivek. 40/ Male / Single from Mumbai, Indian. I am planning to travel all alone to Thailand for a Sex Tour for about 5 to 6 Days. Budget about Indian Rupees 70,000/ ie. US Dollars 1000 or 35,000 Thailand Baht) all inclusive including Flight Tickets, Accommodation and for Girls. I will be travelling to Thailand for the First time and am not really interested in Sight-Seeing though I don't mind doing it during day time. I have read reports of Thailand and Bangkok & Pattaya on internet. I realized that in Bangkok / Pattaya Indians are many times not treated well at many places and there is a risk of theft and scams.

The best solution to this problem is to join in any Tour operated by Indian Company like Thomas Cook or Heena Travels for 5 Days /6 Nights, where they will arrange everything during daytime like Flight Tickets, Airport Transfers, sight seeing, Food (I am Vegetarian), Accommodation, etc. Though I asked but they have no special tours for Bachelors in Thailand. So these tours are for families and nightlife we are supposed to explore on our own. The problem with exploring nightlife alone is travelling via taxis and not knowing which clubs are best and safe. I found a solution that in night I can take a local guided tour for just a night with local company of "Bangkok Hangover Tour"(site: http://www.bangkokhangovertours.com/). This company charges about 2000 Baht per person but takes the tourists to best night clubs in Bangkok in their own vehicle in a single night and picks up and drops off tourists to their respective hotels. So Safe and best without cheating and worrying about travelling.

The other option is to bypass any Indian tour operator and directly Fly to Bangkok on my own, take a room in a girl friendly Hotel like Nana Hotel in Bangkok which is at walkable distance from Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza. And then for nights I will take "Bangkok Hangover Tour" for first night and then will enjoy on my own for subsequent 3-4 nights. The advantage of going without Indian tour operator is that I will save money of a Tour but disadvantage is Airport Transfers, Sightseeing and food, I will have to manage on my own which may even turn out to be more expensive and headache for me.

Now my questions are as follows.

1) Among Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket which is the cheapest, best and safest place that I should go to as Sex Tourist? Tours generally take us to Bangkok as well as Pattaya. But Bangkok & Pattaya have similar kind of Nightclubs and should I avoid one or should I try both? If I decide to go to only one place which is the better?

2) Which is the Best Hotel which will allow girls without extra charge or hassles? Which are best Nightclubs & Massage Parlors & Vegetarian Restaurants at walking distance from that Hotel?

3) How much should a girl, massage and spending time in a nightclub cost me? I like Medium type. Neither very expensive nor very cheap and unsafe.

Please provide as many details as you can with names etc. Thanks in advance.

Vivek

[Mojo Bandit]

Hi,

The other option is to bypass any Indian tour operator and directly Fly to Bangkok on my own, take a room in a girl friendly Hotel like Nana Hotel in Bangkok which is at walkable distance from Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza.



2) Which is the Best Hotel which will allow girls without extra charge or hassles? Which are best Nightclubs & Massage Parlors & Vegetarian Restaurants at walking distance from that Hotel?



Please provide as many details as you can with names etc. Thanks in advance.

Vivek

I can not answer to wether Thai girls are going to be predjudice against an Indian guy but as a white American, I got turned away some in Nana Plaza but never in Soi Cowboy, and I was told by a Thai girl there that they prefer the Japanese and Chinese because they have small penis. That said, I think there arel always more woman than men and they want the money so I doubt you leave alone. I can tell that most people say that Pattaya is the budget sex tour with many a cheap girl friendly hotel. I never been. I have been to Bangkok.

Now the other option you mentioned was visiting Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza in Bangkok on your own and this I have done. You don't need a tour. I stayed at the Majestic Grande Hotel which sits on Sukhumvit 2 Alley about 275 meters south of Sukhumvit Road (Sukhumvit Road is a important street because Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy are both right off Sukhumvit Road, as are many hotels and embassies in this area) The Majestic Grande is actually a nice hotel but most are in this area and it is not Cheapest but it is reasonable ($75 US dollars includes breakfast) and it is girl friendly. Annies Message is just across the street (with Beautiful Women!) Nana Plaza is a short walk (250 meters) and Soi Cowboy is a short taxi ride away (always make sure the taxi is using a meter, just look them full in the eyes and say "Meter?" and make them point to it! I also used my phone to track the GPS so I knew when they were going to far off course!

[Gryffindor]

Hi,

I am Vivek. 40/ Male / Single from Mumbai, Indian. I am planning to travel all alone to Thailand for a Sex Tour for about 5 to 6 Days. Budget about Indian Rupees 70,000/ ie. US Dollars 1000 or 35,000 Thailand Baht) all inclusive including Flight Tickets, Accommodation and for Girls. I will be travelling to Thailand for the First time and am not really interested in Sight-Seeing though I don't mind doing it during day time. I have read reports of Thailand and Bangkok & Pattaya on internet. I realized that in Bangkok / Pattaya Indians are many times not treated well at many places and there is a risk of theft and scams.

The best solution to this problem is to join in any Tour operated by Indian Company like Thomas Cook or Heena Travels for 5 Days /6 Nights, where they will arrange everything during daytime like Flight Tickets, Airport Transfers, sight seeing, Food (I am Vegetarian), Accommodation, etc. Though I asked but they have no special tours for Bachelors in Thailand. So these tours are for families and nightlife we are supposed to explore on our own. The problem with exploring nightlife alone is travelling via taxis and not knowing which clubs are best and safe. I found a solution that in night I can take a local guided tour for just a night with local company of "Bangkok Hangover Tour"(site: http://www.bangkokhangovertours.com/). This company charges about 2000 Baht per person but takes the tourists to best night clubs in Bangkok in their own vehicle in a single night and picks up and drops off tourists to their respective hotels. So Safe and best without cheating and worrying about travelling.

70000 INR is less for 5-6 days if it includes flight tickets too. Make it a lakh including flight tickets.

[Golfinho]

Not just the beach. Have you noticed that Asian women, especially Chinese carry an umbrella when it is sunny so that they do not get a tan?

Can hardly find in Asia a face wash product (for men) that doesn't say 'whitening' on the label. And, then there's all the products specifically for 'whitening'. Tell a salesgirl you're looking for a skin 'darkening' product and see what happens.

[Member #4394]

I don't know if some Indians are really treated unfairly in Thailand.

But I have heard about it, and if it is true why do you want to go there?

Those bastards don't deserve your time and money.

Avoid bad energy and negative karma.

Just have fun with nice people somewhere else.

Hi,

I am Vivek. 40/ Male / Single from Mumbai, Indian. I am planning to travel all alone to Thailand for a Sex Tour for about 5 to 6 Days. Budget about Indian Rupees 70,000/ ie. US Dollars 1000 or 35,000 Thailand Baht) all inclusive including Flight Tickets, Accommodation and for Girls. I will be travelling to Thailand for the First time and am not really interested in Sight-Seeing though I don't mind doing it during day time. I have read reports of Thailand and Bangkok & Pattaya on internet. I realized that in Bangkok / Pattaya Indians are many times not treated well at many places and there is a risk of theft and scams.

The best solution to this problem is to join in any Tour operated by Indian Company like Thomas Cook or Heena Travels for 5 Days /6 Nights, where they will arrange everything during daytime like Flight Tickets, Airport Transfers, sight seeing, Food (I am Vegetarian), Accommodation, etc. Though I asked but they have no special tours for Bachelors in Thailand. So these tours are for families and nightlife we are supposed to explore on our own. The problem with exploring nightlife alone is travelling via taxis and not knowing which clubs are best and safe. I found a solution that in night I can take a local guided tour for just a night with local company of "Bangkok Hangover Tour"(site: http://www.bangkokhangovertours.com/). This company charges about 2000 Baht per person but takes the tourists to best night clubs in Bangkok in their own vehicle in a single night and picks up and drops off tourists to their respective hotels. So Safe and best without cheating and worrying about travelling.

[LifeIsABeach]

I know Chinese women believe this. Many don't even want a tan at the beach.

Not just the beach. Have you noticed that Asian women, especially Chinese carry an umbrella when it is sunny so that they do not get a tan?

[Vivek]

Hi,

I am Vivek. 40/ Male / Single from Mumbai, Indian. I am planning to travel all alone to Thailand for a Sex Tour for about 5 to 6 Days. Budget about Indian Rupees 70,000/ ie. US Dollars 1000 or 35,000 Thailand Baht) all inclusive including Flight Tickets, Accommodation and for Girls. I will be travelling to Thailand for the First time and am not really interested in Sight-Seeing though I don't mind doing it during day time. I have read reports of Thailand and Bangkok & Pattaya on internet. I realized that in Bangkok / Pattaya Indians are many times not treated well at many places and there is a risk of theft and scams.

The best solution to this problem is to join in any Tour operated by Indian Company like Thomas Cook or Heena Travels for 5 Days /6 Nights, where they will arrange everything during daytime like Flight Tickets, Airport Transfers, sight seeing, Food (I am Vegetarian), Accommodation, etc. Though I asked but they have no special tours for Bachelors in Thailand. So these tours are for families and nightlife we are supposed to explore on our own. The problem with exploring nightlife alone is travelling via taxis and not knowing which clubs are best and safe. I found a solution that in night I can take a local guided tour for just a night with local company of "Bangkok Hangover Tour"(site: http://www.bangkokhangovertours.com/). This company charges about 2000 Baht per person but takes the tourists to best night clubs in Bangkok in their own vehicle in a single night and picks up and drops off tourists to their respective hotels. So Safe and best without cheating and worrying about travelling.

The other option is to bypass any Indian tour operator and directly Fly to Bangkok on my own, take a room in a girl friendly Hotel like Nana Hotel in Bangkok which is at walkable distance from Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza. And then for nights I will take "Bangkok Hangover Tour" for first night and then will enjoy on my own for subsequent 3-4 nights. The advantage of going without Indian tour operator is that I will save money of a Tour but disadvantage is Airport Transfers, Sightseeing and food, I will have to manage on my own which may even turn out to be more expensive and headache for me.

Now my questions are as follows.

1) Among Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket which is the cheapest, best and safest place that I should go to as Sex Tourist? Tours generally take us to Bangkok as well as Pattaya. But Bangkok & Pattaya have similar kind of Nightclubs and should I avoid one or should I try both? If I decide to go to only one place which is the better?

2) Which is the Best Hotel which will allow girls without extra charge or hassles? Which are best Nightclubs & Massage Parlors & Vegetarian Restaurants at walking distance from that Hotel?

3) How much should a girl, massage and spending time in a nightclub cost me? I like Medium type. Neither very expensive nor very cheap and unsafe.

Please provide as many details as you can with names etc. Thanks in advance.

Vivek

[Dick Hertz]

I was with a Filipina girl one time who almost didn't go with me because she thought that I could either be Indian or Emirati. Once she realized that I was American, she was all for it. She said she liked to go with white and black American men. I tried to get her to tell me what was wrong with Indian and Emirati men. I pressed her some, but she failed to tell me anything of substance.

However, as the conversation unfolded she did say a couple of other things that I found to be "curious". In her mind, the best possible "mix" a person can be is to be a "Philam". That would be a Filipino-White American mix. I was honest with her and told her that I was not attracted to most Asian women, but that I did find certain groups to be more attractive to me than others (Koreans, Japanese, Thais, Filipinos, and the light-skinned Indians).

I noted that I was not so attracted to Chinese girls. Her response was that the Chinese girls are the most unattractive of all Asian women as they are the most "mongoloid" in their appearance. These were her words, not mine. One Asian woman talking about other Asian women being unattractive due to their "mongoloid" appearance. People are people, and they hold all kinds of beliefs and feelings for God knows what reasons.

In this Filipino girl's case, although she clearly thought that "white was right", it wasn't all about skin color since she definitely had preferences based on nationality as well. And for her, there was also a pecking order among Asians with those having the most "mongoloid" appearance being the least attractive Asian people.

It just the cultural differences. Have you notice that groups she named want there women to be covered up but the men can go out ***** mongering all night. They hear it mostly form the experiences of other bar girls but this is what I been told.

[Wolvenvacht]

Dude every single Asian I met prefers light skin tones. Opinion differs on other features, but that oone is a given and they are not ashamed to say it loud, it's normal. Every asian girl I fucked use products that "whitens" the face and hands, and they keep telling me how great my white skin and pink nipples and jonhson look. Which is funnt to me because in my home country people would tell me I am white as an ass and that I should get a tan.

Even back to the Geishas and concubines girls would use white powder and red lipstick.

Dark skin means peasant, working under the sun and dirty.

Before the 1950's even in Europe, a tanned skin meant peasant and a "lady" would not think about going outdoors unless wearing a hat, gloves and carrying a parasol to shield her from the sun's blackening rays.

[The Cane]

However culturally whole of Asia is drowned in white sycophancy

I was with a Filipina girl one time who almost didn't go with me because she thought that I could either be Indian or Emirati. Once she realized that I was American, she was all for it. She said she liked to go with white and black American men. I tried to get her to tell me what was wrong with Indian and Emirati men. I pressed her some, but she failed to tell me anything of substance.

However, as the conversation unfolded she did say a couple of other things that I found to be "curious". In her mind, the best possible "mix" a person can be is to be a "Philam". That would be a Filipino-White American mix. I was honest with her and told her that I was not attracted to most Asian women, but that I did find certain groups to be more attractive to me than others (Koreans, Japanese, Thais, Filipinos, and the light-skinned Indians).

I noted that I was not so attracted to Chinese girls. Her response was that the Chinese girls are the most unattractive of all Asian women as they are the most "mongoloid" in their appearance. These were her words, not mine. One Asian woman talking about other Asian women being unattractive due to their "mongoloid" appearance. People are people, and they hold all kinds of beliefs and feelings for God knows what reasons.

In this Filipino girl's case, although she clearly thought that "white was right", it wasn't all about skin color since she definitely had preferences based on nationality as well. And for her, there was also a pecking order among Asians with those having the most "mongoloid" appearance being the least attractive Asian people.

[Goatscrot]

'BEST white ones?' I thought only certain asians believed in that bulls-t

It has nothing to do with "belief. " It has to do with tastes and preference. I am Western and have come to prefer lighter skinned gals. The longer I live her the less really dark gals appeal to me. Don't like pale pasties, but I do like "honey skin" as the Thais term it.

[Amavida]

I know Chinese women believe this. Many don't even want a tan at the beach.

Thin & pale is the Asian ideal (in their minds).

AV.

[RumBuddy]

'BEST white ones?' I thought only certain asians believed in that bulls-t

I know Chinese women believe this. Many don't even want a tan at the beach.

[DwayneJohnson]

I know you are talking about women, but does a Black man have problems in Thailand getting the women? Isn't the money just green and that's all that matters?

Situation is slightly more complicated than it appears.

I was refused by a girl who thought I am an European yet she was not racist.

She was a petite Thai girl with tight pussy and was worried about dick size.

It can be a stereotype due to previous bad experience.

I guess African, African-American carry even bigger reputation about it.

This might explain why Joe was turned away while Indians are allowed.

I am an Indian with lighter skin tone however I know reputation that Indians carry over the globe so don't see any other reason why African decent person is not allowed while Indian is allowed.

I have a favorite at Amsterdam and she was treated pretty bad by a Chinese customer and she was telling me she now prefers western men over Asian.

However culturally whole of Asia is drowned in white sycophancy. You can observe this phenomenon in India much more than in Thailand.

There is one more aspect apart from being a cultural thing, from WG's perspective white = developed nation.

Thus white= more money making opportunity to them.

Japanese are favored in few places like La belle because girls generally think it is easy money (less effort and quick finish, another stereotype) and generous tip.

So it may not always be racism but can manifest as a racism.