General Reports

[Syzygies]

The MRT, if not during rush hours, is the best bet if going to or near your destination. Hint, they also have a (discount for seniors over 55), just ask for senior price when you buy your chit. MRT is owned by the Thai Kingdom and is building a stadium sized terminal for the future development of the entire system.

BTS is a private company and is very expensive and very crowded, compared to the MRT. If your traveling alone the price is not bad, but if traveling with a friend that doubles the price and a Taxi is a better bet. Again it depends where you are going and the amount of people.

The cheapest and fastest way to anywhere is the MotorTaxi or Motorbike, the guys in the orange vest. Most of the p4 p ladies use these after leaving your hotel to get back to their spot or work.

RL.

The guy wrote it is hard to get from cowboy to Nana by MRT. Clearly was a joke, since it does not even go there. Would be somewhat silly to catch BTS though for just one station, unless one is prepared to waste a lot of time. I suppose I can agree its expensive for just one stop. Normally more use for multi stops, like I used to go from On Nut to Asoke, at a more reasonable price, where taxi would be 80 Baht.

Thanks, have not used the seniors discount. Not sure I can do card top-up with senior discount, since could pass it on to a non senior.

Actually in rush hour, queues to get on MRT can be much worse than BTS depending on which station we are getting on. People wanting to catch MRT can be delayed more than 20 minutes waiting to just get on. Even at Sukhumvit station queues can be significant in rush hour. However I agree getting on BTS in rush hour is pointless too at Nana or Asoke, Prom Phom etc., unless one is happy to be a sardine. Not very pleasant. At least I am tall and can get some air above the crowd. Best to know the times of day when BTS becomes more viable (outside rush hours). Taxi also becomes much more viable outside rush hours. At night might get to Pat Pong from Asoke sukhumvit junction in just 10 minutes.

Getting to Nana Plaza from Asoke is quite walkable in good weather. Just 10 minutes can do it. Its just 1 km. Best to walk on the south side less obstructed. Otherwise I agree I would catch a motorcycle or taxi. Taxi is cheaper and a good option if no traffic jam.

[Nyezhov]

The MRT, if not during rush hours, is the best bet if going to or near your destination. Hint, they also have a (discount for seniors over 55), just ask for senior price when you buy your chit. MRT is owned by the Thai Kingdom and is building a stadium sized terminal for the future development of the entire system.

BTS is a private company and is very expensive and very crowded, compared to the MRT. If your traveling alone the price is not bad, but if traveling with a friend that doubles the price and a Taxi is a better bet. Again it depends where you are going and the amount of people.

The cheapest and fastest way to anywhere is the MotorTaxi or Motorbike, the guys in the orange vest. Most of the p4 p ladies use these after leaving your hotel to get back to their spot or work.

RL.

Dude where do you live? Both lines are crowded as hell in rush hour and other certain times. The difference between the two lines is that BTS covers the Main tourist district, the MRT does not, except Asoke-Sala Daeng / Silom, so its always going to be a bit less crowded as it does not go to Silom / Chitlom.

Now that of course is for those of us who live here. I will agree that a motosai or even a TukTuk will get you some place faster, ie Nana to Soi Cowboy, but I wouldn't be riding either from say more than a mile away, and yes, I have done it.

If you are mongering, here is your scout route:

Take the BTS to Nana, or walk to Soi 8.

Take the exit to Soi 8.

Go down Soi 8, turn right on the second alley.

Head down the alley.

[CodeWord901] girls will be on the left 100 meters in. Gaze upon them with lust.

Go past them or catch a suck, whatever, cut through the little walkway near the hair stylist and Argo Restaurant.

On your left will be Kasalong. Gaze upon them with lust.

Head down the street, you will see Soi Nana beckoning you like the working girl of Babylon in the distance.

Walk that way. This is a good street to fire up a doobie if you want.

400 meters, you reach Soi Nana. Turn right.

Cruise down Soi Nana. Gaze upon the hookers with lust. GGs primarily on the west side, LBs on the East.

I don't need to go over Nana itself. Gaze upon it with lust.

Go to Suk. Cross the street. Turn right.

Soi 7. Beergarden and African girls. Soi 7/1 BJ bars.

Continue up Suk. Hookers all the way.

Soi 11. You can walk down one side to the T and then back the other. This is the foreigner party district.

Back up Suk. The hookers are getting thick. The better looking ones are Ladyboys. Gaze upon them all with lust.

Spy the Ruamchitt and crowds near Soi 15 and you spied the Thermae.

Continue up Suk, the hookers start thinning out as you hit Terminal 21. Pass that Cross the street, left turn and you are at Soi Cowboy.

Then repeat. Thats a 2 klick walk, add another half a k from going up and won side streets. If you can't walk 2 klicks feuled by chang, you shouldt be here.

I do that walk in about half an hour if I am power walking.

[Robert Long]

Indeed, the hassle of getting from Soi Cowboy (nearest MRT Sukhumvit) to Nana Plaza (nearest MRT Sukhumvit) by MRT is famous.

If only there were some form of light railway built above Sukhumvit Road to get us there. They could call it air train. But wait, people might think it went to the airport, so maybe Bangkok mass Transit System (BTS) or Sky Train.

Walking is of course a criminal offence in Lower Sukhumvit and in any event not entertaining. If only there were venues between Cowboy and Nana Plaza. Maybe nightclubs down one Soi, massage places down others, perhaps a couple of blow job bars and a few dozen or more bars with willing and negotiable ladies.

And in the distopian Bangkok which you seem to have experienced, and is much at odds with many peoples experience, such a shame that there are no "oily massage" places to the east of Cowboy, no area of interest in the Silom part of town, no soapies. . . .

The MRT, if not during rush hours, is the best bet if going to or near your destination. Hint, they also have a (discount for seniors over 55), just ask for senior price when you buy your chit. MRT is owned by the Thai Kingdom and is building a stadium sized terminal for the future development of the entire system.

BTS is a private company and is very expensive and very crowded, compared to the MRT. If your traveling alone the price is not bad, but if traveling with a friend that doubles the price and a Taxi is a better bet. Again it depends where you are going and the amount of people.

The cheapest and fastest way to anywhere is the MotorTaxi or Motorbike, the guys in the orange vest. Most of the p4 p ladies use these after leaving your hotel to get back to their spot or work.

RL.

[LittleBigMan]

I know you said everyone is different and have different life style, and I completely agree.

But 10,000 baht? In Bangkok?

Even if someone lives in a sharing shady hostel, and don't have p4 p habits, 10 k still seems too far fetched.

Your reference is correct about Bangkok, I was talking about Pattaya but that doesn't mean move here! Stay away from it is a shit hole! 10,000 was also reference to accomodation only!

[TomSam]

In old days as a young man I bought the odd girly mag because I wanted to look at some beautiful girls naked and some hot pussy. Years later bought the odd porn video, even pirated ones in Thailand.

I keep thinking the porn industry has got to die out. I mean who pays for porn anyway, these days? It has been obtainable for free for a long time now, and does not have to be blurry. Adverts for porn games or webcam sites? Do they really work and bring enough revenue? Videos of webcams can also be watched for free. Who needs to interact? For interaction, I use real live naked girls, no video chat thankyou very much. Even years ago stuck in own country I would prefer a club with real live nude girls. The brothel girls were generally terrible not worth the money, excepting Asians. In home country I can just abstain and watch a few sexy movies when desperate (at no cost).

What persuades guys that they want to pay for a "private" webcam show? What for ? They can't put their own dick in her. I prefer video as can fast forward past all the boring bits, e.g. blow jobs.

Now sometimes I have downloaded Jap porn, mostly accidentally, and it is a great load of shit to me. Condoms, pixelated genitals, girl subjugation, not much beauty..

I agree with not paying for live chats / cams, too much hassle for not much value.

4 k and VR porn is a big market. With VR porn, you can be in the middle of the action with 10 girls or whatever fit your tastes at the convenience and safety of your bedroom. They are relatively cheap for access to the entire library of a site. Just type into google best 4 k / vr porn site and you'll get the idea.

[Gargano19]

When it comes to money it depends on your lifestyle people get carried away unless you have it to blow and not miss it I say knock yourself out but I see guys bring all their stuff etc. I think you can live pretty good lifestyle accommodations for 10,000 baht a month. I know everyone is different but single guys renting houses, 2 bedroom condos I don't get it?.

I know you said everyone is different and have different life style, and I completely agree.

But 10,000 baht? In Bangkok?

Even if someone lives in a sharing shady hostel, and don't have P4P habits, 10 k still seems too far fetched.

[GettingFedUp]

2/ ..... where as in Bangkok, from my limited experience, you have Soi Cowboy and NPE which are one MRT stop away and is a hassle travelling from one to the other.

Indeed, the hassle of getting from Soi Cowboy (nearest MRT Sukhumvit) to Nana Plaza (nearest MRT Sukhumvit) by MRT is famous.

If only there were some form of light railway built above Sukhumvit Road to get us there. They could call it air train. But wait, people might think it went to the airport, so maybe Bangkok mass Transit System (BTS) or Sky Train.

Walking is of course a criminal offence in Lower Sukhumvit and in any event not entertaining. If only there were venues between Cowboy and Nana Plaza. Maybe nightclubs down one Soi, massage places down others, perhaps a couple of blow job bars and a few dozen or more bars with willing and negotiable ladies.

And in the distopian Bangkok which you seem to have experienced, and is much at odds with many peoples experience, such a shame that there are no "oily massage" places to the east of Cowboy, no area of interest in the Silom part of town, no soapies. . . .

[Smoothy]

Wow, people wear braces because they think it looks good? How many girls do this? To me, it's a huge turn off.

It's a turn on for me. If I see a girl with braces, I am much more likely to take her over one who does not have braces.

[Syzygies]

You can find that out by doing a google search.

Ha ha. A couple of those stars actually look better without the makeup to me. I guess because I hate very exaggerated fake looks.

If a girl looks beautiful when first wakes up in the morning, that impresses me a lot. Then subtle makeup is good. Huge eyelashes don't do much for me at all.

[Kerrstar]

This is from Thai Visa. Contrary to what is posted on ISG, seems like Indian tourists spend more than the average ISG guy.

Depends whether that includes their hotel or not. If they are paying THB 1,500 for their hotel then 4,300 probably isn't more than others would spend. On a 2 day trip to Bangkok I would spend 10,000, excluding hotels.

[Mr Enternational]

And I know these photos are professionally shot but how much different are these from reality?

You can find that out by doing a google search.

[EihTooms]

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What persuades guys that they want to pay for a "private" webcam show? What for ? They can't put their own dick in her.
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There are always the painfully shy, handicapped, infirm, hideously ugly, grossly deformed from birth or injury, too young to travel or enter a bar, too old to partake without great expense, etc.

As wide a range of looks, age, fitness, physical challenge and so on as we see walking around with real girls or ladyboys on their arm in the red light districts, there is a whole world out there of men who are not so lucky or brave enough to be able to emerge from their room and into the light of day on their own. But they've probably got enough money to pop for a webcam every now and then.

[Bouvis]

Wow, people wear braces because they think it looks good? How many girls do this? To me, it's a huge turn off.

Yes.

I'm really not sure how this crept into Thai culture. As with most of the Thai fads / trends it possibly came from Korea?

Maybe a Kpop star wore braces and the trend started from there.

I personally know two girls here in Isan who claim that braces look good on them.

One is a Teacher approx 35 years old.

It just looks weird to me.

I recall picking a hottie from a fishbowl soapie who was really stunning. Good titties too.

As she collected her basket and I was paying the cashier she turned to me and smiled.

Her mouth was full of metal. All I could think of was that cage making mince meat out of my tool.

I reluctantly went through with the deed but it was a really awkward experience.

It's a deal breaker for me.

[Mr Enternational]

What persuades guys that they want to pay for a "private" webcam show? What for ?

I say the same about guys that send money to chicks they never met; or even to ones they have met for that matter.

[GuyBrusg1957]

I will answer where I can.

1/ Asians have a high level of crowded teeth etc. When the girl begins to get money from work one of the first things they do is get their teeth fixed. I have seen girls as old as their 30's with braces.

2/ Pattaya is very easy to access with 99% of venues between North Pattaya Road, Soi 16, Beach Road and 3rd Road where as in Bangkok, from my limited experience, you have Soi Cowboy and NPE which are one MRT stop away and is a hassle travelling from one to the other.

3 a / The websites are shot by professional photographers and plain girls are not included in the shots but also not all girls will want their photos taken so buyer beware.

3 b / and 4/ Never used Smooci as it is not in Pattaya, my choice of destination, but from looking at the website the quality of girls are not much better than TF, keeping in mind the photos are professional shots. I do not know how reliable they are.

Thanks,

I was trying to get a feel for how Bangkok and Pattya were different not just logistically speaking. And I know these photos are professionally shot but how much different are these from reality?