Medellin Reports

[RupertP]

I'm getting into Medellin tomorrow and high on my priority list is finding a good sports bar for a big boxing fight this weekend. Do you guys have any recommendations? Preferably somewhere with some attractive girls. Thanks.

[DownLow123]

It is easy to talk about the princesses and no doubt that is where we spent most of our time, but like this guy Davv posted, you have to kiss a lot of frogs before you get one. Still, the excuses guys make up for not spending $100 to have access to the women we do are nuts. You imagine what the women are like? You know what ALL their motives are? And the funny part is guys using IG and Facebook to engage in P4 P. Were IG and FB set up for that? But if a woman is on Seeking, she has to be X. Truth is you get diamonds and coal there and everything in between.

Don, I wish I could tell you being with one woman was part of some plan. Truth is we are at the airport and Cancun and the gal is balling her eyes out saying, "I am never going to see you again. " My definition of a 10 is someone who drives both sexes crazy and this girl did just that. But then I was like, "Holy shit, this girl is in love with me. " I really did not know her all that well. I had sworn off oneitis and had created this list of boxes that I was sure no one would ever check, and at the time, I was not sure even she could check them. There were just no red marks.

Yeah, there is less materialism, less entitlement, less complaining, less playing the victim, less emasculating behavior in Colombia than the USA, but it is still there. Then there are the druggings and petty theft we see, so anyone with stars in their eyes about finding "the one" in Colombia is likely going to be in for a swift reality check.

And there is no doubt that seeing multiple women is more of a rush; there are the oh so high highs and the lows no one wishes to mention. Meeting so many different women was fun. I miss my Cancun trips with multiple women. They were a fucking ball.

And you are making trade offs. Fun for security. Deeper more lasting family type relationships versus exciting more numerous superficial ones. A relationship you can share with the world versus the fun multiple ones you kind of have to hide. More intimate sex versus more fun sex. Forget the society bullshit. Those are the real tradeoffs you have to make if you are with just one woman, and it damned well better be the right woman. The cost of multiple women in the USA is sky high but it is doable for many in Colombia.

And how many women are really worth that tradeoff of forsaking all others? Giving up your monogamy? Very few in Colombia and even fewer in the USA. In fact, I think if you are looking for that one special woman you are way more likely to convince yourself said girl is "the one" than actually find her. And there are the objective traits all guys want and the subjective ones that vary woman to woman. "The one" woman has to have both the objective and subjective. I have listed the objective but not the subjective. For example, my gal is an idealist which might put off many guys who want a more real type woman not one that could be called nave.

I guess what I am saying is that if you force yourself into believing there is "the one" as society wants you to I am not so sure it works. With me, it just fell in my lap, and I took it slow so as to prevent getting hurt.

As with me, it might not even be your choice. Some old movie said the most attractive feature in a woman was a woman in love with her man. I am sure that has happened with you and will again. The question is if you grab onto it or let it go when that window is open.

I am hanging with my friends, and two gripe that their wives do not pick up when they call. Meanwhile, my gal calls me looking good and is all smiles and bubbly happy to speak with me. They want that. Who does not want that? But the thing is there is the tradeoff. I know a guy like you is banging a ton of beauties having a ball, and I do not get to do that anymore. It is that reality, that tradeoff those guys and hell some of the guys here do not get, but you do.

If you move from the many to the one, chances are that your happiness is more likely to go down than up. In my case, it is up but not that much, and it is more about the unhappiness being down if you know what I mean. I mean I do not have to deal with the no-shows, ripoffs, unrealistic crazy witches ETC. In general, threesomes were disappointing but there is no question that my having two or three women on a trip all at once was as fun as it gets. And there is nothing like that great rush with an amazing first or second encounter when you have that crazy great sexual find that you are getting and I am not.

So yeah, maybe the grass in my world is a little greener than yours, but Don, if so, it is not by much.

I purposely didn't edit it as the entire post is a gold nugget, thanks!

[DownLow123]

Didn't get to write a report yesterday skipped a day being so busy.

Saw girl#1 from fb for half price I wrote about in first post. Thursday. This date was even better than the first. More GFE, not just french kissing, talking on a deeper level, told me she wishes she doesn't have to charge me but needs the money for university and an old phone she needs fix. I told her en tiendo, if she was living in the states it probably be a friends with benefits situation. She said she came twice, I know she did once, we can feel the gush. Details are vague. Encounters are beginning to all run into each other mixing up all the girls experience but she is still fav as of now. This date lasted 4. 5 hours 2 pops BBFS $150 k mas taxi. May have been 100 forgot what the half price was. But were supposed to go shopping Monday for fake designer shit. I'm interested to see if she asks for money, if she doesn't I may shoot her something for her time.

I notice it's quite easy to get oneitious your first couple days here. Hell, it's my first trip and never experienced anything like this. But my heart is begining to darken and begining to see the girls who are generally into me and the ones that are 100% seeing me for the $$.

Saw a new fb girl # 3 at 10 pm Friday night. She is pretty. Tattoos everywhere, a little intimidating but saw her anyways. She's a real sweetheart. Didn't get annoyed at google translate like girl #2 did. Before she arrived I was stressing about all the cum stains on my comfortor. Can only flip it so many times. So she arrived and I did my normal routine, grab her hand from taxi, lead her to my airbnb, "quieres un snack o algo de beber?" She wanted Aqua. Ok. Sat, chatted through google translate, the goal is to get them interested in me and to ask a few questions. She does. She laughs at a couple of my dumbass jokes in spanish. About 15 minutes later I grab her hand and lead her to the bed room. Te gusta la msica regguetand? There answers always "si". So I put some reggueton on my boom box I brought from the states, comes in handy. She startes singing along and I go to the bathroom. I come out and she goes to the bathroom. She comes back with both our drinks from the kitchen area and brings them to the bedroom. Red lights and sirens are going off beginning to fuck up my date. I just tell myself don't drink that shit, it's scoped! So she tryed talking to me via google translate but she sees my vibe changed after those drinks came in unattended. She starts chatting and a lip kiss to help change my vibe back. She's hot so it starts working. Her voice is soft and when she speaks spanish it sounds like she's singing. We sit next to each other and start touching one another.

About 10 minutes went by the time the clothes came off. Felt like I was in a porn set with how slow we were taking each other shit off. She giggles a lot. Nerves maybe? Who knows. I get the "me gusta amor" I'm thinking "no ***** tu gusta 200 k pesos" she's gives me a pretty good blow job, great eye contact. 15 minutes later I flip her over on her back for missionary. Tight. My guess non-pro. She sees me began to sweat and says "vamos a cambiar papi" shit sounds like a good idea to me I thought. So she got on top and rode for a solid 15 minutes befre I saw her sweating and I tease her with "vamos a cambiar papi smirk" She giggles and I flip her doggy for the BBFS pull-out. After the deed is done I "un momento" her for the clean up rag. During this time the chick is normally getting dressed. When I got back she wasn't, she was still laying there naked. I gave her the cleanup rag (I really got to by some baby wipes tomorrow) and she used it, than went to the bathroom. I started getting dressed and she layed back down in the bed and pointed at me to join her. WTF? Ok. So I lay down with my boxers on and she takes them off. Now I'm thinking it's just too soon for round 2. But instead she grabs me into her and cuddles the fuck out of me like I'm her teddy bear and legit falls asleep on me. WTF? Ok. Guess she wants to spend the night.

I cuddled her like I was 20 yrs old and she was my 3 month GF and we both feel asleep. I woke up a few hours later due to the pain of my arm going numb. (You know how you cuddle a chick with one arm and don't know what to do with the other awkward arm, which eventually goes numb and hurt. Yea) So I barely slept last night. She really wanted intimacy, and I get it with these single working girls with no man at home. But as soon as I roll over to relieve some pain from my arm she intertwines my legs where I can't move at all. Than she faces me back towards her. She woke up everytime I stopped holding her, PIA and a real sleepless night. I don't even cuddle my wife this long *****, is what I was telling myself than I watch her sleep for a bit and think to myself, fuck this girl is gorgous! So I suck it up and eventually my arm goes numb and so does the pain and I fall asleep. Woke up with her on top of me a few house later thinking round 2. Nope just more fucking cuddling. WTF. We slept in until about 8 am before she finally stopped holding my hands and un-intertwined my legs with hers so I can escape. I let out the biggest sigh of relief with my first stretch. We showered together, she got dressed and I told her I wasn't expecting you to spend the night. She said in spanish neither was she but we slept rich together. I than told her No pago for overnight but she said I already paid her enough with the cuddling and shit. I did give her an extra 50 mil because honestly it was nice not sleeping alone for once. Being a monger / ho gets lonely after a while. She's been texting me all day, even recently saying something along the lines of "more rich sleep tonight papi, I need you" I wonder if I told her to swing by just to sleep if she would ask for money, OF COURSE! It's all a ploy to extract as much money out of us. I told her no maybe some other-time though. She's a really sweet girl and I will be seeing her again soon.

I met a fellow monger today which was a great part of the day. We both stay pretty close in the Lauerles area. Nice to know your not alone in this hobby. We met at unicentro, on Friday, went to El centro behind vericruz church searching for some hot vennies sw's. Saw maybe 1 or 2 but was more or less there checking out the seen. There pretty aggressive, touched us both a few times walking by. It was a good day today. Trying to meet up with another fellow monger in el poblado at some point. Wanted to give him a shout out for the gym recommendation. Will be joining tomorrow inside the unicentral mall.

FB girl # 4 to be continued. No time.

[DownLow123]

Enjoy it fellas because in the next 5-15 years prostitution will be illegal in Colombia and this fantasy world will no longer exist.

Where does it say no hookers?

It doesn't but the fact there willing to send policia to catch gringo's in the act is something I haven't heard before. It's true, as of now Colombia cannot afford to get rid of prosititution, however that will not be the case in the next 5-15 years, especially when the USD collapses.

If only that were true! Fact is, countries and cities that economically can ill afford to do so have been cracking down on prostitution everywhere. I remember the discussion we had in the German FKK forum about a club called Yin Yang in a small duch border town with Germany. The only two family hotels in town got their customers from the club. The club itself was probably the town's main business in terms of turnover and taxes. Yet the city council closed the club for good on spurious charges. Prostitution counts for nothing.

Yes, and it's in part because the west is spreading it's influence to south America, and even SEA.

It's only ging to get worse for us, never better.

[Recondite]

And this is the quoted post.

Recondite, you are going to be very popular on this forum. Heck, we should put your post up for links of distinction.

What do you call a guy who is having bareback sex with the most beautiful women he has ever seen for 8 months? In this forum, I agree the word sad does come to mind.

And why pay $100 for a selection of women possibly as hot as the one Davv had when you can just imagine what you have is just as good? That is pure genius. It is like you read the minds of most of the guys on the forum.

I'll admit my phrasing came off a bit harsh. My point in the grander scheme and in terms of the law of averages is that if you want a girlfriend look for a normal girl that is not p4 p. Seeking is not the best way to find that. There is nothing wrong with having a sugar baby if you know what you are getting into and know what you want. Can that relationship transform? Sure. His and other people's posts are proof. But, a site like Seeking is explicitly designed to link sugar daddys to babies. Now does Seeking magically have all the most attractive girls ever on it who would never open a personal Facebook or Instagram account? I don't think so. I've been messaging back and forth about a girl I went out with who is on Facebook and Seeking. My thinking is the primary thing that Seeking can do for you is save you time and efficiently link you with a pool of attractive women that are open to being a sugar baby (again there is nothing wrong with that).

I invest a decent amount of time on Facebook and Instagram looking for women up to my standards. You need to build out your list and there is a game. That investment of time is not worth it for everyone. But, guess what my price for all night, mindblowing sex sin condon with the most beautiful woman I've ever slept with (anywhere in the world not just Medellin) was? Taxis back and forth and I threw in 50 k as a gift for her sister who was taking care of her kid for what she thought would be a few hours but ended up being all night. Am I a player or extraordinarily handsome? No. I was half expecting this girl to quote me a price or ask me to give her a regalito at the end of the night and I would have happily paid too. The fact that it was clear that money wasn't her primary motive and that there was some crazy chemistry between us was what really made that and subsequent experiences with her stand out.

Now I'll also happily pay for sex both upfront and on the back end. There is nothing wrong with that and I wouldn't be on this site if I believed otherwise. I've been giving the latest girl I've been spending significant time with either gifts or some cash when I see her. She made it clear to me she expects some help, though she stumbles over herself to justify in her mind that she is not a prepago (which has its benefits too). She's probably the kinkiest woman I've ever met and the tradeoff there is more than worth it for me. But am I planning to make her my girlfriend or madly in love with her? No. The saying at the end of the day is "you can't make a hooker into a housewife". Are there exceptions to that rule? Yes. But I can point you towards 100 horror stories for every happy ending.

The general point I was trying to make about the online platforms is to know the tools you are using and why the chicas are using those tools. Like with anything else in life, I suggest using the best tool to achieve your desired result, though there are other, probably less efficient, ways of skinning that same cat as well. In the case of the poster, he's a younger guy that speaks Spanish and was talking about finding another girlfriend. Hell, statistically he could find the love of his life in a casa if he searched enough. But I can guarantee a lot of heartbreak, pain, and manipulation if he's falling in love with casa girls left and right. Given the fact that he's younger, can speak Spanish and is living there, he should have no problem dating hot, nonp4 p girls if he tries. It's more likely he'll have problems getting the girls he doesn't like that much to leave him alone. If his goal was to fuck different attractive women every week or have a stable of regulars I think Seeking or other more p4 p routes might be the most efficient way to achieve that goal.

[JustTK]

Casas are managed and customers are monitored by big guys. Popular casas girls and mamasans have ties with them. You are inviting trouble if you ask them date and meet them outside. It happened to friend of mine. He was banned from casa later to avoid any trouble from him.

I have done it countless times in many of the casas. Never had a problem. Just do it discretely.

[JustTK]

my GF told me that 3 of her friends found boyfriends in seeking. One of them was expecting a baby and the other got married. I think if you really take the time and allow yourself the opportunity to get to know these girls, you can find that they are just normal human beings, yes they need money, but they also want a better life and future, they long for someone to love them, to adore them, to take care of them in every aspect. They want sex, money and happiness. Just my opinion.

Great comment. Someone that understands that working girls are human too. You can say they are all like this or all like that. They each have their own needs and desires. You just have to find your own good match. If that's what you seek.

[Knowledge]

I highly doubt I am the only one who routinely gets contact details and meets casa girls outside the casas. So far so good but I will keep an eye out for big guys from now on.

Casas are managed and customers are monitored by big guys. Popular casas girls and mamasans have ties with them. You are inviting trouble if you ask them date and meet them outside. It happened to friend of mine. He was banned from casa later to avoid any trouble from him.

[JjBee62]

I do listen and I appreciate the advice.

I've been to CR 3 times, MDE once. I did 4 years in the Military and carried a rifle everyday I worked. I was in the first Gulf War, and I can still mix it up if I have to.

If a young lady that I think is hot will let me make out with her, have sex with out a condom, and be nice to me for less money than I can take a fat American lady to Applebees than I consider her a friend and a damn good one at that.

If someone scopes me I'm going for a blood choke and we will be flying with the Angels together.

Perhaps you'll understand it this way.

I spent 8+ years in the Navy. The people I worked with weren't just friends, they were shipmates. You should understand the brotherhood. We worked, played and partied together. If there was a fight, they would jump right in with me.

But if I left my locker unlocked and walked away for 5 minutes someone would steal my shit.

Have all the fun you want with the girls. Just remember, given the opportunity, most of them will steal from you.

[ElPostino]

In all the world there is no safer place to Monger than a Casa in MDE.

Casas are managed and customers are monitored by big guys. Popular casas girls and mamasans have ties with them. You are inviting trouble if you ask them date and meet them outside. It happened to friend of mine. He was banned from casa later to avoid any trouble from him.

[John Gault]

Columbia in general and Medellin are really dangerous.




Or if I wish to take more risk, I will use the casa and will use uber or other registered car service to move to the casa from my hotel.



It is from the reading of this forum. I donot have any ground experience till now but reading is enough to understand the situation.

In all the world there is no safer place to Monger than a Casa in MDE.

[Paulie97]

I agree with the overall point here. Society cannot afford to get rid of prostitution. But not all that much to do with us foreign mongers. The real economy is the local economy, and in the prostitution business here my guess is that the local part is 95% of it, and we foreign mongers may be a focal point, but mostly irrelevant to the economy.

Prostitution is tolerated across Latin America but not celebrated. There's a reason why there's no signs identifying the casas in Medellin, the same as to why rooms are typically hidden in the strip clubs and the locals use the many love motels with private garages. Discretion is the norm. Guys who party it up and parade hookers in and out of apartment buildings and hotels used by the locals are well outside the norms. All are free to do as they will but don't complain when there are consequences. And you are very right, Colombia doesn't need that kind of tourism.

[Mr Enternational]

It is easy to talk about the princesses and no doubt that is where we spent most of our time, but like this guy Davv posted, you have to kiss a lot of frogs before you get one. Still, the excuses guys make up for not spending $100 to have access to the women we do are nuts. You imagine what the women are like? You know what ALL their motives are? And the funny part is guys using IG and Facebook to engage in P4 P. Were IG and FB set up for that? But if a woman is on Seeking, she has to be X. Truth is you get diamonds and coal there and everything in between.

Well of course it is possible to walk into a barbecue restaurant and pick out a couple of dishes to make up a vegetarian plate, but how many vegetarians are regularly walking into a meat house to get a vegetarian meal? If one wanted to find a needle it would make much more sense to go to the sewing aisle at Walmart than to look in a haystack.

Seeking is a haystack full of hookers. Who pays $100 to dig through hundreds of hookers in hopes of finding the 2 chicks that stumbled on the site by happenstance and are not there to sell pussy? There are not women signing up for the site that are not initially looking for what the site is advertising the same as no chick's first introduction to facebook was to sell pussy.

[Mr Enternational]

The real economy is the local economy, and in the prostitution business here my guess is that the local part is 95% of it, and we foreign mongers may be a focal point, but mostly irrelevant to the economy.

Didn't covid show that in various countries where foreigners think they are making a difference? No foreigners for 2 years in some cases, yet all these hookers managed to survive.

[Zeos1]

ANd even if it did, economically Colombia cannot afford to get rid of prostitution. Tourism dollars, support for poor chicas with kids, etc. Despite how much some politicians and rich folks *****, the realit is that they really need us and prostitution to limit social unrest. Think of what would happen if girls could not longer pay for rent and food and to raise their kids. Think about hotels, restaurants, taxis. Not realistic.

I agree with the overall point here. Society cannot afford to get rid of prostitution. But not all that much to do with us foreign mongers. The real economy is the local economy, and in the prostitution business here my guess is that the local part is 95% of it, and we foreign mongers may be a focal point, but mostly irrelevant to the economy.