Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Hargow20]

I am bit surprised to hear this. But one should always keep your guard up in the Zona. I always keep my wallet in my front pocket to keep from being pick pocketed. I have noticed that the girls on that corner are aggressive and will try and grab my arm. I always pull away to get them off of me whenever a SG does this.

Well, after bragging for years, I suppose my luck ran out. Last night, while making a couple laps, I was pick pocketed. I will admit to being a bit tipsy. By no means was I drunk but probably not as aware as I should have been. I am 95% certain I know who it was. Walking along Ninos Heroes (on HK side), two SGs were all over me. Neither were attractive to me. They were uber aggressive in the front. But somehow, they took a little pocket wallet from my back pocket. Yes, many rookie mistakes. As I said, my guard was down. I walked away from them and then I actually turned around and went back in that direction and both were gone, which struck me as odd. But I still wasn't aware. But in hindsight, I am certain that is when it happened. One of them was practically jerking me off right there on the sidewalk and no doubt that is when the other lifted it.

I am very tempted to go back there tonight but I do not see a good outcome from that. Both are older chicas. One a blonde. She was the one that was super aggressive. The other was a dark haired girl, significantly overweight. Lesson learned. Thankfully, the important things like ID, more cash, phone, were not in that pocket. I hate to admit it but I do not always separate everything. But before I headed out last night something told me to do that.

[Dogers69]

A lot of these girls are not really professional working girls, they just show up to scam you. Pickpocket, or otherwise. For instance I ask if they have I'd. Most say no. That's red flag. Maybe underage. Maybe failed HIV test. Maybe illegal alien. Maybe just scammer. One charged 20 for massage and CBJ. After ten seconds she stopped and looked at me like "I'm done and you can't do crap about it gringo" and she was right. And yes the girls last night also were grabbing me too. Nothings in my back pocket. Passport is in hidden pocket. Most money in sneakers. Every night girls and staff laugh at me, which is how I know Mexican crooks don't target locals much. Cause they never have problems.

[Goyo61]

Thanks for the post. Helps us all keep more aware! Had a jacket taken in HK a couple months back. My fault for not keeping an eye on it or taking it off in the first place. HK is a great place but.

Well, after bragging for years, I suppose my luck ran out. Last night, while making a couple laps, I was pick pocketed. I will admit to being a bit tipsy. By no means was I drunk but probably not as aware as I should have been. I am 95% certain I know who it was. Walking along Ninos Heroes (on HK side), two SGs were all over me. Neither were attractive to me. They were uber aggressive in the front. But somehow, they took a little pocket wallet from my back pocket. Yes, many rookie mistakes. As I said, my guard was down. I walked away from them and then I actually turned around and went back in that direction and both were gone, which struck me as odd. But I still wasn't aware. But in hindsight, I am certain that is when it happened. One of them was practically jerking me off right there on the sidewalk and no doubt that is when the other lifted it.

I am very tempted to go back there tonight but I do not see a good outcome from that. Both are older chicas. One a blonde. She was the one that was super aggressive. The other was a dark haired girl, significantly overweight. Lesson learned. Thankfully, the important things like ID, more cash, phone, were not in that pocket. I hate to admit it but I do not always separate everything. But before I headed out last night something told me to do that.

[Dcrist0527]

Well, after bragging for years, I suppose my luck ran out. Last night, while making a couple laps, I was pick pocketed. I will admit to being a bit tipsy. By no means was I drunk but probably not as aware as I should have been. I am 95% certain I know who it was. Walking along Ninos Heroes (on HK side), two SGs were all over me. Neither were attractive to me. They were uber aggressive in the front. But somehow, they took a little pocket wallet from my back pocket. Yes, many rookie mistakes. As I said, my guard was down. I walked away from them and then I actually turned around and went back in that direction and both were gone, which struck me as odd. But I still wasn't aware. But in hindsight, I am certain that is when it happened. One of them was practically jerking me off right there on the sidewalk and no doubt that is when the other lifted it.

I am very tempted to go back there tonight but I do not see a good outcome from that. Both are older chicas. One a blonde. She was the one that was super aggressive. The other was a dark haired girl, significantly overweight. Lesson learned. Thankfully, the important things like ID, more cash, phone, were not in that pocket. I hate to admit it but I do not always separate everything. But before I headed out last night something told me to do that.

[Artisttyp]

A guy fronted saying he would take me to San Diego airport for $20.

Did this guy have a vehicle and weren't you questioning him while "walking" to Pedwest vs getting in a car pointed towards i5 North?

Just curious what draws people into this type of scam.

[Dogers69]

The scams are in high gear with Christmas shopping. All trolley border foot crossing waste if you don't pay the 10 dollar toll to cut the line. Stick to el chaparral if you don't want to pay fee. I would of paid it but the Mexicans in line with me I didn't want to insult their pocketbook. So I wasted 4 hours in line instead. LOL.

[ScottHall]

A guy fronted saying he would take me to San Diego airport for $20. In reality all he did was walk me from ped East to Ped west. Based on their designs long lines are a lot more visible at ped East vs ped west.

He demanded $20 when we reached ped west entrance -- I debated options & decided not to pay any money at all. He yelled & maybe followed me for about 50 feet but then left.

Anyone else run into this or a similar scam.

There's a good chance that most of the mercenaries offering services on the street are trying to scam you, maybe worse. How does the San Diego airport turn into a block walk to pedwest? Regardless, I don't think I would get into a random persons car or follow someone's special deal. Just go with a reliable entity like Uber or the trolley. I feel like people sometimes worry a little too much about saving 2. 25 rather than just going the safe route.

[Rainman306]

A guy fronted saying he would take me to San Diego airport for $20. In reality all he did was walk me from ped East to Ped west. Based on their designs long lines are a lot more visible at ped East vs ped west.

He demanded $20 when we reached ped west entrance -- I debated options & decided not to pay any money at all. He yelled & maybe followed me for about 50 feet but then left.

Anyone else run into this or a similar scam.

[Captain Solo]

Sinaloa cartel' witnesses in El Chapo's trial already fingered him for taking millions in bribes in exchange for protection. Phillipe Caulderon most likely took big cuts of these bribes.

Thsi guy is stupid to park the money and live in the US, waiting for the Fed to move in and cuff him. He's looking at 20 years or more in top security prison. Perhaps they will put him in the same cell with El Chapo to keep him company.

Bottom line is, cannot trust anyone in Mexico, South or Central America. The hypocrites put on a big facade of deeply religious and pious Catholics, but they all scheme to steal from and murder their neighbors, rape their wives and daughters. Damn crooked, evil world!

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/f...artel-n1099081

Ex-Mexico top cop charged with protecting El Chapo's cartel.

Genaro Garcia Luna was charged with accepting millions of dollars in bribes in exchange for providing protection to the Sinaloa cartel.

Dec. 10,2019, 10:31 AM PST.

By Tom Winter.

A former top law enforcement official in the Mexican government was charged by the USA Government with accepting millions of dollars in bribes in exchange for providing protection to Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman's notorious drug cartel.

Genaro Garcia Luna, 51, who served in a Cabinet post overseeing Mexico's federal police, was indicted by a federal grand jury in Brooklyn last week on three counts of cocaine trafficking conspiracy and one count of making false statements for his role in allowing the Sinaloa cartel to operate "with impunity" in Mexico. He was arrested Monday in Dallas, the USA Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of New York announced Tuesday as it unsealed the indictment.

"Today's arrest demonstrates our resolve to bring to justice those who help cartels inflict devastating harm on the United States and Mexico, regardless of the positions they held while committing their crimes," USA Attorney Richard Donoghue said.

Garcia Luna served as Mexico's secretary of public security from 2006 to 2012 and has been living in the United States since 2012. If convicted, he faces a minimum of 10 years in prison and the maximum of a life sentence.

Drug kingpin El Chapo sentenced to life in prison.

July 17,201901:18.

The Sinaloa cartel "obtained safe passage for its drug shipments, sensitive law enforcement information about investigations into the Cartel, and information about rival drug cartels," in exchange for millions of dollars in bribes to Garcia Luna, prosecutors said. This facilitated imports of "multi-ton quantities of cocaine and other drugs into the USA ".

On two occasions, Garcia Luna's bribes arrived by courier — cartel members personally delivered briefcases containing $3 million to $5 million, prosecutors noted. By the time Garcia Luna left government and relocated to Florida, he had amassed a personal fortune worth millions of dollars, they said.

"The government has interviewed numerous other cooperating witnesses who have confirmed that the Cartel paid the defendant tens of millions of dollars over several years, in exchange for the defendant's protection of the Cartel," prosecutors said.

One of the most powerful drug cartels in the world, the Sinaloa cartel is known for its violence and drug trafficking. Over the decades, the cartel has directed a multibillion-dollar narcotics trafficking empire, shipping huge quantities of drugs from Latin America into the USA, including cocaine, heroin, marijuana and methamphetamine.

Prosecutors consider Garcia Luna a significant flight risk. "The defendant prioritized his personal greed over his sworn duties as a public servant, and assured the continued success and safety of one of the world's most notorious trafficking organizations", they wrote in a request to block bail.

Garcia Luna's lawyer did not immediately respond to request for comment. He is scheduled to appear in court next Tuesday for a detention hearing.

[KC Questor]

I'm not staying at Ibiza hotel; was only considering for a future trip since it seemed nice enough when I took a street girl up last trip -- during the late afternoon, so maybe no music yet.

Ibiza is definitely one of the nicer hotels in the Zona for street girls. And it's not BAD for staying overnight but as mentioned you want a top floor room to avoid the noise and walking those stairs is a pain in the ass (and legs).

Staying 1 night each at Hotel Jalos, Hotel Coahullia & Hotel Rizo. Probably planning to pull 1 bar girl each night from each of the attached clubs.

I think that's a fine plan, and a good way to learn the Zona hotels better. And definitely pull girls from the attached clubs. I always hate when I have a room in once hotel but I find a girl I like in an unaffiliated bar. Pisses me off to pay for a room when I have one sitting unused in a different hotel. Remember that Hong Kong, Las Chavelas, and Tropical can all go to Rizo. Adelita and Valentina girls can go to Coahuila. Gives you more options. Please report back what you found!

[Rainman306]

I'm not staying at Ibiza hotel; was only considering for a future trip since it seemed nice enough when I took a street girl up last trip -- during the late afternoon, so maybe no music yet.

Staying 1 night each at Hotel Jalos, Hotel Coahullia & Hotel Rizo. Probably planning to pull 1 bar girl each night from each of the attached clubs.

[MongerHunger]

Have an upcoming trip next month and planning to stay at various hotels 1 night each associated with each of the big clubs -- Adeltas, Chicago Club & Hong Kong. Elected to stay at Hong Kong's clubs sister hotel across the street as it seems it may be safer? Read of some incidents at Hotel Cascades which maybe are just due to it being the epicenter of the Zona?

Has anyone ever stated at Hotel Ibiza? The hotel above the La Marquerda bar. Seemed to have an attractive group of street girls last time. Would you then not have to pay the fee each time?

Get ready for the noise. It can be an issue. Make sure your linens are clean and stay on the upper floors with distance from the street level. You still have to contend with noise from guest, staff and girls yelling loudly in the hallways.

[KC Questor]

Have an upcoming trip next month and planning to stay at various hotels 1 night each associated with each of the big clubs -- Adeltas, Chicago Club & Hong Kong. Elected to stay at Hong Kong's clubs sister hotel across the street as it seems it may be safer? Read of some incidents at Hotel Cascades which maybe are just due to it being the epicenter of the Zona?

Not sure when your trip is planned, but Hotel Coahuila (Adelita) has $20 rooms Mon-Wed with no VIP required. Well worth it even if you don't plan to take up an AB chick. Rooms are decent and I usually stay there if my HK VIP is expired.

I've never stayed at Hotel Rizo de Oro (Bar Tropical), but I know many mongers who swear by it over Cascadas. But most of them prefer the BT girls over the HK girls, so it makes sense. Yes, you can take either girl to either hotel (Las Chavelas girls, too), but it can be a hassle to make a HK girl walk across the street in her robe and tacones. Some won't want to, especially on a busy weekend night.

Hotel Jalos (Chicago Club) is not a great place to stay the night unless you plan to take up a few girls from there. Weekday rate only $25, so pays for itself if you go up more than once. Not many SGs around there, so harder to take them up. Plus they often don't have hot water. Rooms are variable -- some OK and some shitholes, with broken locks, crappy showers, and no ac / heat. Be willing to complain and move.

Ibiza is nice for a short-term hooker hotel, but not great for staying overnight. Malquerida is a common "after hours" bar so the the music from the club is incessant even at 6 in the morning. Get a room on the top floors to avoid the noise and you'll be climbing 4-5 flights of stairs.

[KC Questor]

Bring your own sheets. Even two twin top sheets will work.

I hope you bring a pillowcase as well. If I were a germaphobe I'd be far more concerned about the pillow than the sheets. I sleep in a t-shirt and sweatpants, so dirty sheets aren't a big deal, but my face is right there in that pillow and you know it's been covered in fluids. Harder to wash a pillow and less likely to be thrown out either. I'm glad I'm not worried about that stuff.

[Jackie888]

Have an upcoming trip next month and planning to stay at various hotels 1 night each associated with each of the big clubs -- Adeltas, Chicago Club & Hong Kong. Elected to stay at Hong Kong's clubs sister hotel across the street as it seems it may be safer? Read of some incidents at Hotel Cascades which maybe are just due to it being the epicenter of the Zona?

Has anyone ever stated at Hotel Ibiza? The hotel above the La Marquerda bar. Seemed to have an attractive group of street girls last time. Would you then not have to pay the fee each time?

Ibiza is really loud because they have live bands playing until 5 am. If safety is your concern, HK probably spends the most on security. They even track their limos by GPS just in case it gets car jacked with customers in it. There is usually 2 guys working the desk, plus a security guy over-watching the elevators. Rooms are carded rather than keyed. Front and back entrances are guarded 24 hours. For all the shit I give HK, I do give Cascadas an A+ when it comes to hotel security in the Zona.