Crime, Safety, and the Police

[ClamSlammer]

For what is it, people tend to think that tijuana is one area in a city but in reality it's a large city with different little neighborhoods.

Just wondering, who do you know that thinks Tijuana is just a little neighborhood of a larger city named " That would be equal to thinking Las Vegas is just a little section of a big city named "The Strip."

[ScatManDoo]

Ehh. Comparing any area of Tijuana (Zona Norte or otherwise) with any US city is completely off mark. It is true that some parts of Tijuana are more dangerous than the others, but the violent crime is spread across the entire city. There have been a number of shootings and murders reported in the Zona and other so-called "safe parts" during the past 18 months. Several murders right in the alley in front of the clubs. Just read the local news.

Tourist areas like the Zona and Centro are certainly safer and better policed than other parts of Tijuana, but they are still order of magnitude more risky than *any* US city.

Have you ever heard about the murder rates of Flint Michigan? How about the violent crimes rates in nearby Detroit? Oakland California?

[Ctytek]

Ehh. Comparing any area of Tijuana (Zona Norte or otherwise) with any US city is completely off mark. It is true that some parts of Tijuana are more dangerous than the others, but the violent crime is spread across the entire city. There have been a number of shootings and murders reported in the Zona and other so-called "safe parts" during the past 18 months. Several murders right in the alley in front of the clubs. Just read the local news.

Tourist areas like the Zona and Centro are certainly safer and better policed than other parts of Tijuana, but they are still order of magnitude more risky than *any* US city. The part that makes everything worse is that Tijuana police is corrupt and targets gringos for extortion. So we have to be on the alert not just against the criminals, but the cops as well. We should not fool ourselves into thinking we are completely safe in the Zona.

people can get the wrong idea of going to Tijuana, since most of the murders happen in neighborhoods that no hobbyists should be venturing off to. Zona Norte, Revolucion, zona areo are my stomping grounds and I have not felt any dangers being there with company or by myself. Obviously you need to be witty and aware of people watching you but that goes for anywhere you travel.

[LovesToSploog]

Thanks for the example. I'm from Santa Ana, I'm well aware of the dangers of big cities, however, from that article people can get the wrong idea of going to Tijuana, since most of the murders happen in neighborhoods that no hobbyists should be venturing off to. Zona Norte, Revolucion, zona areío are my stomping grounds and I have not felt any dangers being there with company or by myself. Obviously you need to be witty and aware of people watching you but that goes for anywhere you travel.

Los Angeles is a very big city, just like Tijuana. There are many places I would not go during the day or night in LA. I would go to Disneyland 24 hours a day. Think of the La Zona as your Disneyland (Adult) but Disneyland.

[Orlanr]

For what is it, people tend to think that tijuana is one area in a city but in reality it's a large city with different little neighborhoods. I read the article and looked up the neighborhoods where the murders happened and I highly doubt anyone will be going off into the neighborhood in the day let alone the night. If you are venturing off to those neighborhoods, you're looking for trouble and trouble will obviously find you. The main area in the revolucion is safe, hell military humvees patrol the area. I went there last week from Friday to Sunday night and I couldn't believe how sprawling it was. A better context to the article should be posted since most members here won't be trying to find chickas there.

Los Angeles is a very big city, just like Tijuana. There are many places I would not go during the day or night in LA. I would go to Disneyland 24 hours a day. Think of the La Zona as your Disneyland (Adult) but Disneyland.

[Jackie888]

Is this being reported by any news source that has at least a tiny bit of credibility?

LOL, mongers that rely on breitBard should wear undersized bullet proof jackets when visiting Tijuana.

[WombatEd2]

https://www.breitbart.com .

Is this being reported by any news source that has at least a tiny bit of credibility?

[LovesToSploog]

For what is it, people tend to think that tijuana is one area in a city but in reality it's a large city with different little neighborhoods. I read the article and looked up the neighborhoods where the murders happened and I highly doubt anyone will be going off into the neighborhood in the day let alone the night. If you are venturing off to those neighborhoods, you're looking for trouble and trouble will obviously find you. The main area in the revolucion is safe, hell military humvees patrol the area. I went there last week from Friday to Sunday night and I couldn't believe how sprawling it was. A better context to the article should be posted since most members here won't be trying to find chickas there.

https://www.breitbart.com .

6 April 2019.

Robert Arce.

"Cartel-related drug violence continues in the border city of Tijuana with 21 killings registered in less than a 48-hour period. Those deaths include three bodies abandoned in a burning vehicle.

The killings began just after midnight on Wednesday when firefighters received a call about an abandoned vehicle burning on a dirt road in colonia Can del Padre. After firefighters extinguished the flames, they discovered the badly burned corpse of an unknown victim in the back seat. Upon opening the trunk, they then discovered two more badly burned bodies, according to local media reports. . . "

Commenter: "There's a hot time in the old town tonight!" General advice if you do not want to visit the Tijuana morgue: Avoid being near dudes yelling "Cuanto, Cuanto. . . They tend to be bullet magnets".

[DramaFree11]

https://www.breitbart.com .

6 April 2019.

Robert Arce.

"Cartel-related drug violence continues in the border city of Tijuana with 21 killings registered in less than a 48-hour period. Those deaths include three bodies abandoned in a burning vehicle.

The killings began just after midnight on Wednesday when firefighters received a call about an abandoned vehicle burning on a dirt road in colonia Can del Padre. After firefighters extinguished the flames, they discovered the badly burned corpse of an unknown victim in the back seat. Upon opening the trunk, they then discovered two more badly burned bodies, according to local media reports. . . "

Commenter: "There's a hot time in the old town tonight!" General advice if you do not want to visit the Tijuana morgue: Avoid being near dudes yelling "Cuanto, Cuanto. . . They tend to be bullet magnets".

Yes, it is getting worse all over Mexico and probably with get much worse before if gets better. Time to be very careful.

[Travv]

https://www.breitbart.com .

6 April 2019.

Robert Arce.

"Cartel-related drug violence continues in the border city of Tijuana with 21 killings registered in less than a 48-hour period. Those deaths include three bodies abandoned in a burning vehicle.

The killings began just after midnight on Wednesday when firefighters received a call about an abandoned vehicle burning on a dirt road in colonia Cañón del Padre. After firefighters extinguished the flames, they discovered the badly burned corpse of an unknown victim in the back seat. Upon opening the trunk, they then discovered two more badly burned bodies, according to local media reports. . . "

Commenter: "There's a hot time in the old town tonight!" General advice if you do not want to visit the Tijuana morgue: Avoid being near dudes yelling "Cuanto, Cuanto. . . They tend to be bullet magnets".

[DramaFree11]

Saturday night after midnight we were driving back on Benito Juarez towards the border via the medical lane. At the Miguel Negrete intersection, one block before the street splits out in three, with lots of body shops and the Haitian flop houses, 5 cop cars parked on both sides of the street flashing red and blue beacons. They were stopping and looking into each car at that intersection.

The road block was not an alcohol check point usually set up after midnight with the big truck flashing its yellow beacon, keeping a couple pretty girls, who run the breath analyzer, warm. The old, hardened cop looked hard into our car. I asked him "Qure pasa?" he quickly waved us through. They did pull over a few cars with California plates but definitely were not looking for drunk drivers. Perhaps the mayor wanted them to catch the little pendejo who fucked both his daughter and his wife and made them both pregnant, or perhaps the cartel guys who were late with installments hehe.

Glad Tijuana's tax dollar is putting policias to do something besides hanging out near La Zona to shake down gringos for morditas. Tijuana should try to hold the world's record for the largest number of hot, sexy, nubile female bodies in bars, not cold, stiff, bloody, rotting bodies in the morgue. Have to find alternate route South to avoid that check point and get to Pade Kino / Sentri lanes in the future. It's strange but Tijuana has no, read zero, policia patrol outside of la Zona Norte, nada! Perhaps the bars pool their money and donate heavily to the mayor's charity foundation every month.

Sorry, just not the risk of driving into Tijuana now, to save a few bucks. Until everything levels out, just park, walk across the border and take UBer. Just not worth saving a few bucks.

[Captain Solo]

Saturday night after midnight we were driving back on Benito Juarez towards the border via the medical lane. At the Miguel Negrete intersection, one block before the street splits out in three, with lots of body shops and the Haitian flop houses, 5 cop cars parked on both sides of the street flashing red and blue beacons. They were stopping and looking into each car at that intersection.

The road block was not an alcohol check point usually set up after midnight with the big truck flashing its yellow beacon, keeping a couple pretty girls, who run the breath analyzer, warm. The old, hardened cop looked hard into our car. I asked him "Qure pasa?" he quickly waved us through. They did pull over a few cars with California plates but definitely were not looking for drunk drivers. Perhaps the mayor wanted them to catch the little pendejo who fucked both his daughter and his wife and made them both pregnant, or perhaps the cartel guys who were late with installments hehe.

Glad Tijuana's tax dollar is putting policias to do something besides hanging out near La Zona to shake down gringos for morditas. Tijuana should try to hold the world's record for the largest number of hot, sexy, nubile female bodies in bars, not cold, stiff, bloody, rotting bodies in the morgue. Have to find alternate route South to avoid that check point and get to Pade Kino / Sentri lanes in the future. It's strange but Tijuana has no, read zero, policia patrol outside of la Zona Norte, nada! Perhaps the bars pool their money and donate heavily to the mayor's charity foundation every month.

[StRobert]

Tijuana, Guerrero politicians dispute violent cities study findings link https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/pol...tudy-findings/.

Tijuana's mayor charges that the study was politically driven.

Thursday, March 14,2019.

Politicians in Baja California and Guerrero have rejected a study that found that Tijuana and Acapulco were the two most violent cities in the world outside war zones in 2018.

The Citizens' Council for Public Security and Criminal Justice CCSPJP, a non-governmental organization, published a study this week that ranked Tijuana as the most violent city in the world as a result of its homicide rate of just over 138 per 100,000 inhabitants. Acapulco ranked second with a rate of 110.5.

Tijuana Mayor Juan Manuel Gastélum acknowledged that there was a high number of homicides in the city last year but claimed that the study used incorrect data and has a clear "political connotation" because municipal and state elections will be held this year.

"It's a fraudulent study with a political purpose, I can't see it any other way. I don't know who could be behind this, we have to review. . . This entity the CCSPJP," he said.

Tijuana Public Security Secretary Marco Antonio Sotomayor contended that the study included homicides in Rosarito even though the coastal city is in another municipality.

Both men pointed out that the number of homicides in Tijuana has fallen in 2019.

In response to the mayor's claim, CCSPJP president José Antonio Ortega told the newspaper El Sol de Tijuana that the study has no political purpose other than to encourage authorities to implement policies that improve public security.

"We do this study with complete methodological rigor precisely so that authorities, the media and the population pay attention to the murderous violence. . . And establish different policies in order to get out of this horrific ranking of the 50 most violent cities in the world," he said.

In Guerrero, Governor Héctor Astudillo rejected Acapulco's second-place ranking.

"I reject it because the indicators we have from the National Public Security System tell us that we're in fourth place for homicides per 100,000 inhabitants and sixth place for the sheer number of homicides," he said.

The governor conceded that violence in the faded Pacific coast resort city is an ongoing problem that "requires attention" but charged that authorities are working every day to combat insecurity and that crime rates are already falling.

"I don't accept that Acapulco is the second most violent city," Astudillo reiterated.

Acapulco Mayor Adela Romáand Ocampo expressed a similar sentiment, charging that the CCSPJP didn't take into account the "hard facts" that show that violence in the port city is going down.

"I categorically reject it the ranking because we went down to fourth and sixth place for intentional homicides. . . ".

Source: Milenio, Frontera.Info , El Sol de Tijuana Digital Guerrero.

[WombatEd2]

I understand that you can get your visa online. Not sure if that applies to 7- or 180- day visas. But anything is good if it avoids the the wait at the border for one-day visas!

[Aviator400]

If you have 180 - day visa go straight to the entrance for Mexicans. You only show visa and passport card to a Mexican officer and that's all. I have 180 - day visa and never have a problem. If the visa is over, go to the entrance for Americans and buy a new one. I asked, and the Mexican officer said that to Tijuana you do not need visa receipt but it's good to have a receipt outside of Tijuana e g in Ensenada, Vale de Guadeloupe, Rosarito etc.

Thanks for the info. I have been to Tijuana often, but this is the first time I bought the 180-day visa.