Kyiv

[BellBottomsDJ]

Has anyone ever booked a flight for a girls that lives in south Ukraine to come to Kiev. This girl responded on Mamba and her profile says she lived in Kiev, but turns out she is in Dnepro. She had pics that look legit and she gave me her Viber and that picture matches, but this is a curve ball I never considered. The strange thing is other girls I have talked to seem to refuse to take a train for some reason. I get requests to pay for taxis to travel from other cities too! I make 25 times as much money as these girls and I have no worries about the train Sound like a scam?

[BellBottomsDJ]

Unless you plan to have your own armed body-guard also present, this seems like just begging for trouble.

Agreed, I'm passing on this option. There is risk and who really wants to pay double to see some other guys dick?

[RocketMan0010]

Yeah, we'll see. I'll report back in a few days with my results.

I have no doubt there are tons of Asian stereotypes everywhere. But I don't exactly, look or act like most of them. We'll see.

Good luck, dude. I look forward to your report. I'm coming on the 26th with a very similar game plan to yours, but looks like our times won't overlap.

[Stevie69]

Unless you plan to have your own armed body-guard also present, this seems like just begging for trouble.

I have been on Mamba for about 4 days now, and I am running into married women that want to charge for having sex with them while their husband watches or joins (my choice). Wow! I am not sure if this is my thing, but one of these girls is smoking hot. Has anyone else ran into this? Is this normal in Kiev, or is this most likely a pimp posing as a husband. Profile says she has kids and is married. I just found it surprising so I was just curious about other guys thoughts on this.

[AlphaDude]

Prepare a lot of cash. If they not reply in English and you not speak Russian. What do you think they are going out with you?

Asian for many girl there means money. You see lot of Chinese now coming to Kiev and you see them always with nice girl if they are ugly Chinese. They have money and in perception Asian are more generous than western.

Good luck anyway.

Yeah, we'll see. I'll report back in a few days with my results.

I have no doubt there are tons of Asian stereotypes everywhere. But I don't exactly, look or act like most of them. We'll see.

[HugeDickMan]

I like to be generous and give $100 if the girl is really hot. They do more stuff that way without me even asking. Then if the sex was great I give them $20-40 more after because seeing them happy makes me happy. And never negotiate down, it makes you look like a cheap pos and gets you worse attitude and service.

[LuisVega11]

Oh my oh may. Well well well. Really? Overdone anal? Wow! That was my first time in Ukraine 2 months ago. I was very generous. I'm planning to go another time this year. Maybe I should be rude this time. Fuck San Francisco then. As I said, you may not find a good looking one even if you spend 400. Everything is expensive in San Francisco now.

Yes most have done it. But with you they will say no I never did. Be strong but not [CodeWord123] them. Just be strong in front of them,. If they snug a little pussy man in front of them good luck.

[LuisVega11]

Well I get into Kiev in 2 days. I have about 7-8 numbers with IG profiles that would be willing to meet with no money mentioned. Let's see how it goes. All girls from Mamba or Instagram.

The goal is to be able to "pull" naturally with just my looks and charm, but of course I have $$$ as a last resort.

The main problem I'm encountering so far is that half of the girls that reply do not speak English.

I'm a 6' tall, younger, very fit, Asian male. Let's see if that makes any difference on my success.

Prepare a lot of cash. If they not reply in English and you not speak Russian. What do you think they are going out with you?

Asian for many girl there means money. You see lot of Chinese now coming to Kiev and you see them always with nice girl if they are ugly Chinese. They have money and in perception Asian are more generous than western.

Good luck anyway.

[Guntherus]

Some weeks ago I asked if someone knew a good clinic in Kyiv for std test. Now I have found in my little black book the name of Isida clinic that I visited several years ago. Seemed to be a solid establishment, sent me the final results after I left the city, per email in English. As I remember, they were in shota rustaveli, but their homepage shows several outlets now all over Kiev (except Shota R.). There now also seem to be more English / German speaking services, like Eurolab and Medikom (no Obamacare), where I can take my girl (and me) for a test, without having to rely on her translation and explanations. I also found out that I can buy Symamed directly in Apteka to cure Clamidia. Will do this, just for security reason, when I leave. Where I come from, I always must ask the doctor. Which is embarrassing when you come three times a year! RB.

[Guntherus]

Thank to many useful advises, I explored some well known night clubs. ...

Many young normal girls are extremely beautiful, although they start to swell quickly.

All in all, Kiev was not the best place for mongering, but I was not disappointed at all.

Thank you for the report, it is accurate to my experience. Because of cold winter, even if not so cold, there is not much going on in Kiev clubs, except maybe Friday-Saturday. I recently went three times to Caribbean, spotted maybe 5-15 working girls, probably 25-45 yo. Nice music and some, mostly girls, dancing, easy to approach. Early in the evening, I'm told they feature jazz musicians, fashion shows and more (18-22 o'clock). Avalon-disco, my favorite, was closed Sunday, but the doorman mislead me and said I only had to go to elevator 4th floor. This is restaurant panorama, with loud music but no dancing, at least not this night. Club-Khi had only tables, no dancing or show last Tuesday, but apparently this is the up and running club in Kiev now (weekends, I guess). Nice club to look at. When it is crowded, they remove the tables at 23 o'clock and start dancing. I better visit Germany, and Kiev only during summertime. RB.

[AlphaDude]

Well I get into Kiev in 2 days. I have about 7-8 numbers with IG profiles that would be willing to meet with no money mentioned. Let's see how it goes. All girls from Mamba or Instagram.

The goal is to be able to "pull" naturally with just my looks and charm, but of course I have $$$ as a last resort.

The main problem I'm encountering so far is that half of the girls that reply do not speak English.

I'm a 6' tall, younger, very fit, Asian male. Let's see if that makes any difference on my success.

[BobSmith1]

I have been on Mamba for about 4 days now, and I am running into married women that want to charge for having sex with them while their husband watches or joins (my choice). Wow! I am not sure if this is my thing, but one of these girls is smoking hot. Has anyone else ran into this? Is this normal in Kiev, or is this most likely a pimp posing as a husband. Profile says she has kids and is married. I just found it surprising so I was just curious about other guys thoughts on this.

One of those girls from Mamba replied me saying the same thing. Its a group of girls and guys want to have group sex. She gave me the rate $300 USD. Crazy! Not my cup of tea.

[BobSmith1]

All comrades always remember this:

Most of the girl in Kiev, who deal with foreigners are the worst piece of shit you can find right now in the world as feminine person. The good one are not interested in foreigners or if they are good, they probably will have a circle around who will suggest them to spoil you. And maybe obtain something even them.

- be strong and commander. Be over rude in bed. 90% of this girl have already overdone anal sex because Ukrainian don't listen to them. With foreigner they pretend to act like saint Mary virgin. This not this not, no anal. Be strong and command the ride, they won't resist. They are mostly super weak person. Look in Russia the new law for abusing in family. (I say this cause till I was good and faithful and respectful all girl I met apart sporadic cases, showed they were the biggest piece of shit).

- don't overpay. They, apart a bunch of top escort, don't have nothing zero. They survive, dos of them sucking cock to ugly and much poorer than you foreigner. I had a girlfriend she had 4 guys relation at the same time, sometimes she met 3 of them the same day. And they sponsored her with less than 240 dollar month. I read 100 dollar hour..

Oh my oh may. Well well well. Really? Overdone anal? Wow! That was my first time in Ukraine 2 months ago. I was very generous. I'm planning to go another time this year. Maybe I should be rude this time. Fuck San Francisco then. As I said, you may not find a good looking one even if you spend 400. Everything is expensive in San Francisco now.

[Deer1234]

Thank to many useful advises, I explored some well known night clubs.

Skybar: I was kicked out by the door man.

Only Caribbean club provides live (and nice) music and, as a result, absorbed the greatest number of young girls: from professional to normal citizens including tourists.

It was difficult to tell who is professional, who is a normal citizen, and who is marginal. So I hesitated to talk to any ladies, so as not to offend normal ones.

I will try to proceed a bit more tomorrow, Sunday night.

Substantial number of the nice-looking girls were encircled in tables reserved by foreigners (Turkish? Apparently these girls were non-professional (in terms of sex industry), at least at this time of moment.

D*Lux was occupied mostly by normal (and wealthier) citizens or tourists. Healthy, sound, and boring atmosphere.

Although Arena has the best hard ware, its business seemed least successful. Boring and sparse.

Shooters was the smallest but comfortable. There are abundant professionals, most of whom are big nice old mothers. Since I was trained to respect mother, I would never call them "cows".

Contrary to many reports, there were some young good-looking girls, who did not seem to be engaged in the above industry.

Apart from night clubs, I was impressed with the Ukrainian people in general. They are kind, helpful and seemed more civilized than the people of most industrialized countries.

Many young normal girls are extremely beautiful, although they start to swell quickly.

All in all, Kiev was not the best place for mongering, but I was not disappointed at all.

[MagicSheep74]

That's facinating report, thank you for sharing. I've contemplated on and off about visiting. Mayb well not be worth it for me to allocate any vaca time to this destination. What's interesting is also your praise for spain. As I havn't been to spain, you find the price of pfp cheap for european talent over there? Truthfully with europe having 'gotten smaller' the talent of women have been 'redistributed' . Outsourced to other geographical areas drawn by means of making more $ elsewhere, but is that necessarilly true if Spain you can acquire eurpoean women in a Spanish environemnt?

Hey Kabukicho,

Thanks for your comments. I don't want to annoy other members by talking to much about other countries in a Ukrainian thread, so I will be quick.

If you fly to Malaga in Spain, you can find many clubs such as Nuevo Scandalo, Milady Palace, Estark 92 , Glass palace, Sala Divas all within 40 kms of each other. They look like nightclubs and open from 6 pm to 6 am and are full of Eastern European + Latin women walking around in Bikini's. You sit and have a drink, then can take any of these ladies to a hotel type room upstairs for sex from 30 minutes, 45 minutes, 1 hours, 10 hours. Prices start at 80 euro and up. The standard is high and will always find someone very attractive.

Kiev is hard work for sure, I have been to Ukraine twice and would never return. Its just not worth the effort in my opinion for a mongering destination. When you have Spain, Brazil, Thailand and Germany's FKK clubs why work so hard unless you are secretly looking for a wife. I myself have just managed to remove my wife of 10 years from my life, so I just want a fun, easy time scam free sex with attractive young women from many different countries in a safe and relaxing environment.

Best of luck.