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  1. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyBears  [View Original Post]
    Sirioja.I agree with PFI about time wasters and might ad that I think that mainly locals in the clubs in Spain are time wasters as many of them are in the clubs to drink and to a greater extent than tourists are touchy / feeling the girls without the intention of having sex, this according to club-girls I have get to know over the years. Of course there are drunk tourists behaving badly as well, so no pun intended.
    I've pointed out before the basic misapprehension of the place the 'puti club' has in Spanish culture. Few of the locals would be going to a club purely to have sex with the girls. Why would they? They know where they can get far better sex much cheaper. They're going to a club for what you see. Drinking. Flirting with the girls. Getting their egos groomed. Maybe they'll take it further with a girl. Maybe they won't. The business model of the club is set up for this. It makes its money from renting rooms to the girls & over the bar. Drinks for the customers. Drinks bought by the customers for the girls. On which the girls normally get a kick-back. It's a matter of indifference to the club whether a girl takes a client upstairs or not. These guys are not "time wasters" to the club, as long as they're putting money over the bar. They're the club's bread & butter. If the clubs just sold sex, they'd go out of business. There's no way they could legally make money out of doing so. To the club, YOU may be the "time waster". If you're giving your money to the girls, not to the club. Of course, a club where no client ever took a girl upstairs would soon lose its girls. The attraction gets the customers in, in the first place. They won't hang around if they're not earning. And a puti club without its girls is just another bar.

  2. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    I have never been to Aphrodisia. Tried Globe but only once and whilst the quality of service was fabulous (at least from the three girls I sessioned) the prices are quite high and the club looked tired to me. But then I find everything in Switzerland is expensive! I believe Andiamo (Austria / Villach) is open again and I know you've been there before (and Wellcum but I think it is closed still? Never been to Sixens but would like to try it. I agree with you that Germany / FKKs look doomed for 2021.

    So to CDS. You would have plenty of options if you went for a week Sirioja. Sun by day and they have in the last two years worked really hard on the Senda Litoral De Malaga (Malaga coastal path) and if when completed will run from Nerja to Manilva and span 163 kms. I know you love your fitness (as do I) so you could use it for running / cycling / roller blading! As Qazsx5 says, for upmarket try Miladys Palace. Central Marbella. Girls are 300 e / hour. The club is actually similar in decor to Globe! There are several villas with attractive girls around pools in the Marbella area. Scandalos was the top club in Malaga. Rooms are horribly basic and fees are now 220/ hour but the standard is usually high. On your drive back to Paris go via Madrid and try Club Vive when it is open. Undoubtedly the best standard of any club I have been to anywhere in the world. A LOT of 10/10's and you would not just go once - 240/ hour but the quality really is superb. And then our little E92 and its beauties at a very reasonable 150/ hour.

    You should try Spain this summer.
    Wellcum reopened on Summer 2020 and GT Vienna, but not Andiamo unfortunately. Will see on 2021. Before starting my climbing tour on June for whole sporty Summer until October, I wish to go to Spain for the sea, relaxing me, for sun, good foods, sea and sex if I find pretty girls in CDS and Catalunya, when I m only attracted by pretty Caucasian types, so Scandalos and Vive should not be for me, when You told about pretty Romanians in Estark. My eyes will choose, I only trust them for my pleasure. Could also give a look at Miladys Marbella, looking for Romanian or Slavian beauties. Also heard about the Angelo Alicante. Should be busy holidays.

  3. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Very expensive girls rate pay drinks, including whisky or vodka, at Aphrodisia, but was never able to find a wow look there worthing such rate, when saw some who were in Germany before. Aphrodisia is elephant cemetary for WGs, the end of the road. I wish girls are prettier at Estark, to worth so many kilometers from Paris. I doubt for Germany for this Summer, maybe Austria, Switzerland and 6 ens NL, like on 2020 .
    I have never been to Aphrodisia. Tried Globe but only once and whilst the quality of service was fabulous (at least from the three girls I sessioned) the prices are quite high and the club looked tired to me. But then I find everything in Switzerland is expensive! I believe Andiamo (Austria / Villach) is open again and I know you've been there before (and Wellcum but I think it is closed still? Never been to Sixens but would like to try it. I agree with you that Germany / FKKs look doomed for 2021.

    So to CDS. You would have plenty of options if you went for a week Sirioja. Sun by day and they have in the last two years worked really hard on the Senda Litoral De Malaga (Malaga coastal path) and if when completed will run from Nerja to Manilva and span 163 kms. I know you love your fitness (as do I) so you could use it for running / cycling / roller blading! As Qazsx5 says, for upmarket try Miladys Palace. Central Marbella. Girls are 300 e / hour. The club is actually similar in decor to Globe! There are several villas with attractive girls around pools in the Marbella area. Scandalos was the top club in Malaga. Rooms are horribly basic and fees are now 220/ hour but the standard is usually high. On your drive back to Paris go via Madrid and try Club Vive when it is open. Undoubtedly the best standard of any club I have been to anywhere in the world. A LOT of 10/10's and you would not just go once - 240/ hour but the quality really is superb. And then our little E92 and its beauties at a very reasonable 150/ hour.

    You should try Spain this summer.

  4. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by Qazwsx5  [View Original Post]
    Well, the girls at estark are not bad, but if you are looking for high end of the market, then there is milady palace in Marbella and some private villas surrounding puerto banus, but that's 300 euros upward an hour, also you can find some independent ones at expensive bars and restaurants over there.
    I like pretty faces with slim natural body, looking like normal Caucasian women. Not silicon nor tattoos nor heavy make up like a stolen car.

  5. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Very expensive girls rate pay drinks, including whisky or vodka, at Aphrodisia, but was never able to find a wow look there worthing such rate, when saw some who were in Germany before. Aphrodisia is elephant cemetary for WGs, the end of the road. I wish girls are prettier at Estark, to worth so many kilometers from Paris. I doubt for Germany for this Summer, maybe Austria, Switzerland and 6 ens NL, like on 2020.
    Well, the girls at estark are not bad, but if you are looking for high end of the market, then there is milady palace in Marbella and some private villas surrounding puerto banus, but that's 300 euros upward an hour, also you can find some independent ones at expensive bars and restaurants over there.

  6. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyBears  [View Original Post]
    Sirioja.

    I have also been to Aphrodisia I Zurich a couple of times, I don't really understand why they give away high quality booze for free when there are no entry fee? Maybe they don't have a problem with freeloaders but certainly some people go there for free alcohol and not the girls?! As you point out, almost no girl is worth those rates.

    I agree with PFI about time wasters and might ad that I think that mainly locals in the clubs in Spain are time wasters as many of them are in the clubs to drink and to a greater extent than tourists are touchy / feeling the girls without the intention of having sex, this according to club-girls I have get to know over the years. Of course there are drunk tourists behaving badly as well, so no pun intended.

    Lets hope the summer can be as close to normal in the clubs, and in the world in general of course!
    Very expensive girls rate pay drinks, including whisky or vodka, at Aphrodisia, but was never able to find a wow look there worthing such rate, when saw some who were in Germany before. Aphrodisia is elephant cemetary for WGs, the end of the road. I wish girls are prettier at Estark, to worth so many kilometers from Paris. I doubt for Germany for this Summer, maybe Austria, Switzerland and 6 ens NL, like on 2020 .

  7. #152
    Sirioja.

    I have also been to Aphrodisia I Zurich a couple of times, I don't really understand why they give away high quality booze for free when there are no entry fee? Maybe they don't have a problem with freeloaders but certainly some people go there for free alcohol and not the girls?! As you point out, almost no girl is worth those rates.

    I agree with PFI about time wasters and might ad that I think that mainly locals in the clubs in Spain are time wasters as many of them are in the clubs to drink and to a greater extent than tourists are touchy / feeling the girls without the intention of having sex, this according to club-girls I have get to know over the years. Of course there are drunk tourists behaving badly as well, so no pun intended.

    Lets hope the summer can be as close to normal in the clubs, and in the world in general of course!

  8. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    I didn't write Spain but Spanish, many going for fast rooms, compare to Swiss or even some Germans. Free entry at Estark? At Aphrodisia Zurich city, city businessmen go more to take a free drink, or drug, when free entry, rather than for girls who are for 280/30 or 500/60 , looks not worthing such expensive rates, when many were more fresh in Germany before.
    Sorry didn't spot that. Yes. Locals do seem to spend 3 hours nursing a few drinks then select. A girl for 30 minutes. But then I do know some Spanish who the girls say are long time room customers.

  9. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    I think there is a difference between guys who are there to go to rooms, who speak to several girls first to choose and then go, and other guys who like going to a club to see sexy girls in sexy dresses, but with no intention of going to a room with any girl. They are wasting the girls' time.

    Spain has imposed a lot of restrictions without returning to full lockdowns. You are correct it cannot afford another lockdown. I don't think Spain is for fast rooms other than a few punters who do 30 minutes rooms. But in my experience that is more likely to be locals than people who travel any distance to the clubs. Let's hope the current rise in cases in Spain subsides quickly.
    The thing is you don't really have to go for an hour nowadays. At least the girls at estark are not really tough on time,(dunno why, maybe because there ain't many customers or something) you can go for half an hour but stay for 45 - 60 minutes, and they are fine with it and don't say anything, I am not sure if this is a new thing or its always been like this. Of course you can give a tip if you want, but they won't say a thing.

    The situation is not that bad as it is said in the media, the coast is quite buzzing to be honest, yes, some places have shut but there are many bars and clubs open and very busy, specially on the western side of the coast.

    You must come and see it for yourself.

  10. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    I think there is a difference between guys who are there to go to rooms, who speak to several girls first to choose and then go, and other guys who like going to a club to see sexy girls in sexy dresses, but with no intention of going to a room with any girl. They are wasting the girls' time.

    Spain has imposed a lot of restrictions without returning to full lockdowns. You are correct it cannot afford another lockdown. I don't think Spain is for fast rooms other than a few punters who do 30 minutes rooms. But in my experience that is more likely to be locals than people who travel any distance to the clubs. Let's hope the current rise in cases in Spain subsides quickly.
    I didn't write Spain but Spanish, many going for fast rooms, compare to Swiss or even some Germans. Free entry at Estark? At Aphrodisia Zurich city, city businessmen go more to take a free drink, or drug, when free entry, rather than for girls who are for 280/30 or 500/60 , looks not worthing such expensive rates, when many were more fresh in Germany before.

  11. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    What are time wasters? Guys who want to speak but don t go with girls? When Spanish seem to be for fast rooms. Good because easy to be different for girls. Spain can t afford anymore to lockdown, so they chose to live with virus, they can't do better.
    I think there is a difference between guys who are there to go to rooms, who speak to several girls first to choose and then go, and other guys who like going to a club to see sexy girls in sexy dresses, but with no intention of going to a room with any girl. They are wasting the girls' time.

    Spain has imposed a lot of restrictions without returning to full lockdowns. You are correct it cannot afford another lockdown. I don't think Spain is for fast rooms other than a few punters who do 30 minutes rooms. But in my experience that is more likely to be locals than people who travel any distance to the clubs. Let's hope the current rise in cases in Spain subsides quickly.

  12. #147
    What are time wasters? Guys who want to speak but don t go with girls? When Spanish seem to be for fast rooms. Good because easy to be different for girls. Spain can t afford anymore to lockdown, so they chose to live with virus, they can't do better.

  13. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Qazwsx5  [View Original Post]
    Hi PFI,

    Yes, it is great. Downstairs seems very cold but upstairs.

    Could you provide more info about Monica? Is she still there? The looks and service?

    Thanks.
    No idea if she is still there I am afraid. Long brunette hair, very slim, great figure. Intelligent girl who is excellent in the room. If she is there she is likely to be talking to Alicia (blonde Ro curly hair).

    I agree downstairs Ina (Ivana lookalike) can appear cold. I think it is because of the number of time wasters the girls have to deal with. But once you've selected her and take her to the room she is terrific.

    Hopefully now travel restrictions from the UK are being lifted there will be more punters and the club will get back to what it was before. Though I notice the number of cases (covid) in Spain is sadly increasing again.

  14. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    It is her service level in the room. Not only is she tall, slim, blonde and looks like Ivana Trump, she is very friendly, but really knows how to please with fabulous BJ skills.
    Hi PFI,

    Yes, it is great. Downstairs seems very cold but upstairs.

    Could you provide more info about Monica? Is she still there? The looks and service?

    Thanks.

  15. #144

    Estark and CDS in general

    Not so many clients at round 6,7 pm in estark but about 20 girls working, a few approach but go away when they see you are not interested, about 7 or 8 nice ones, the quality is quite good to be honest considering the current situation. Ina great service, everything perfect. And other clients were happy too with their choices, so it seems that the quality of service has gone up, you do not see them promise this and that and throw it out of the window upstairs. That's real good to see.

    In general everything is working quite well along the coast, bars are open, live music, gogo dancers are all out in force. I think its really a great time to be in CDS.

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