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  1. #1353

    Thursday night

    I was in Tropical on Thursday night and ended up buying a super friendly chica a couple drinks. I won't out chicas who I end up barebacking for a myriad of reasons which experienced hobbyists already know very well. Long story short, I prefer relaxed sessions in the comfort of my hotel room. We exchanged numbers and she said she'd visit me in my Centro hotel after her shift. Her shift must have ended a bit early because she messaged me at 2 am and was knocking on my door at 2:45 am. Guys who have played the number swap game with a bar girl saying she'll visit you later know the flake out rate is high so I was mildly surprised she messaged me and even more so that she showed up earlier than the 3 am she said she'd arrive by. We talked a bit about where she's from (the interior) and she stripped down to dance for me. It all flowed very naturally into a nice BBBJ with me standing and her on her knees. After awhile she crawled on the bed, laid on her back, and spread her legs. The view was good and her pussy looked pretty pink so I just stuck my cock in her and went for it. A few positions later, we finished in perrito. Toward the end, she reached back to spread her ass cheeks and I started pounding her harder until I unloaded a fat load deep in her. All the while she was begging for my leche in her panocha. The point of this story is that experiences like this have happened for me far more often in Tropical than any other bar, but of course I'm just a focus group of one. She's been blowing up my phone since so I'll plan on seeing her again when I return in a couple weeks and as long as she doesn't start the asking for money ruse, I'll add her into my rotation.

  2. #1352

    Non puta GF

    Quote Originally Posted by RikyMichaels7  [View Original Post]
    This post from Mr. Smith is right on the money and matches my experience. Of course mine was a little different because one of my relationships almost resulted in me being knifed to death. But the rest is spot on. The sentence that everybody needs to understand is this one:

    "Almost impossible to develop a normal relationship with a working girl in Tijuana unless you're willing to make a TON of sacrifices. ".

    These sacrifices are generally financial and usually include having to fork over money for things like paying her rent now that she isn't working, doctor bills (including for her and her children), haircuts, hair extensions, food, propane, electricity, her cell phone bill, clothes, transportation, school uniforms, school tuition, her parents that get sick, funeral money, entertainment, cable television. And the list goes on and on. I had two major relationships with ex putas, one from Tropical who had no kids and the other who worked in Adelitas for only a short time of which she hated but had 4 kids to support. It was bad enough having to pay for the girl from Tropical who was single let alone having to pay for the girl with four kids. And let me tell you, there was something that came up every single week where she needed money. This girl with the four kids was beautiful and the nicest woman I have ever met. Unfortunately, she was draining me considerably and I called it off. She had a nice family but her ex husband became drug addicted and abandoned his family leaving her to fend for them alone. But of course this is Mexico so there is no accountability for child support. Funny how this dude ended up with another wife and children after all of this and can't even send one dime to his flesh and blood children.

    Forget the relationship idea with these putas. Find a non-puta girl and hopefully one that has some semblance of earning potential (I know this is easier said than done).
    Yep. Agree with the poster. So much more realistic to have a nonputa girlfriend. Granted it's almost 100% certain they won't be as hot as the HK girl, they at least will be someone you can comfortably have a long term relationship with. My HK girl was a really good person, incredibly hot, and honest with me and I would've loved to permanently get her out of the club and away from that lifestyle but, the incredible amount of sacrifices I'd have to make and the potential risk to jeopardizing my own other social / professional relationships by being with a HK puta publicaly was not something I could realistically do. Treated her well while we were together for a year, but like someone said in a post earlier, my heart always knew it was a sinking ship that would eventually go under.

    Can't save everyone unless you're an incredibly wealthy CEO who has nothing to lose and endless resources to give.

  3. #1351
    Quote Originally Posted by SeaBeeJoe  [View Original Post]
    Your are absolutely right, Mexico is fucked up for no LT enforcing child support laws. I have 2 kids myself from my previous marriage and I send money every month to support them. Men who don't support there children are not men imo. Sex has consequances like pregnancy, if you knock a chica up you better be prepared to support your child, after a dna test ofcourse LOL.
    Mexico does have child support laws. You can get child support. But it's often incumbent on the woman to put in the hard work of getting a lawyer, and the constant follow-ups, and appeals (for lack of a better word) if the first judge is a moron, and so forth. I know a girl who got support. So much money per week, plus 50% of the kid's private school, clothing, medical, etc. , or dad loses visitation. Very fair. But it took a couple of years of slogging to get it.

  4. #1350

    Non puta girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by RikyMichaels7  [View Original Post]
    This post from Mr. Smith is right on the money and matches my experience. Of course mine was a little different because one of my relationships almost resulted in me being knifed to death. But the rest is spot on. The sentence that everybody needs to understand is this one:

    "Almost impossible to develop a normal relationship with a working girl in Tijuana unless you're willing to make a TON of sacrifices. ".

    These sacrifices are generally financial and usually include having to fork over money for things like paying her rent now that she isn't working, doctor bills (including for her and her children), haircuts, hair extensions, food, propane, electricity, her cell phone bill, clothes, transportation, school uniforms, school tuition, her parents that get sick, funeral money, entertainment, cable television. And the list goes on and on. I had two major relationships with ex putas, one from Tropical who had no kids and the other who worked in Adelitas for only a short time of which she hated but had 4 kids to support. It was bad enough having to pay for the girl from Tropical who was single let alone having to pay for the girl with four kids. And let me tell you, there was something that came up every single week where she needed money. This girl with the four kids was beautiful and the nicest woman I have ever met. Unfortunately, she was draining me considerably and I called it off. She had a nice family but her ex husband became drug addicted and abandoned his family leaving her to fend for them alone. But of course this is Mexico so there is no accountability for child support. Funny how this dude ended up with another wife and children after all of this and can't even send one dime to his flesh and blood children.

    Forget the relationship idea with these putas. Find a non-puta girl and hopefully one that has some semblance of earning potential (I know this is easier said than done).
    Your are absolutely right, Mexico is fucked up for no LT enforcing child support laws. I have 2 kids myself from my previous marriage and I send money every month to support them. Men who don't support there children are not men imo. Sex has consequances like pregnancy, if you knock a chica up you better be prepared to support your child, after a dna test ofcourse LOL.

  5. #1349
    Quote Originally Posted by ABAJoeSmith123  [View Original Post]
    Totally agree. Almost impossible to develop a normal relationship with a working girl in Tijuana unless you're willing to make a TON of sacrifices. I've tried and learned the hard way. I developed a strong and very close relationship with a working HK girl. But deep down I knew I could never do anything long term and that at some point we would have a nasty break up be / see I wasn't willing to cement it into a formal public relationship like a marriage or something be / see I saw a lot of potential problems of marrying a Tijuana hooker (many ramifications socially, professionally, etc). I also began to feel quite uncomfortable being in public with her out of fear that I'd bump into people I knew or knowing that all the mexican people around us in normal locations knew that it was odd to see an ugly bloke like me with a super hot woman that was clearly out of my league to the point that I wouldn't be surpirsed if people thought I was carrying around an escort. The biggest setback to maintaining anything longterm with a working girl is the cost; I was hemorrhaging so much money be / see she expected financial support for her kids, family and all her monthly expenses. That was not sustainable to me. It was a financial hemorrhage that was a very stupid thing to do in retrospect. YOu may find a good working girl like the one I was in a relationship with, but their warped sense of reality and financial expecations are unreasonable and they carry a lot of baggage and drama. As I diminshed the amount of money I was giving, she immediately went back to the club again. The interesting thing is that I was still giving her money while she was back in the club, so I was TRULY a retard for still letting the relationship continue while she was back to sucking 20 hairy dicks a day.
    All good things to consider when dating a sex worker. It would be awkward to run into her previous clients or possibly someone you know in your professional circle. I think everyone has baggage and drama, but just have to find the one you're willing to suffer for. You would be surprised with how many older Mexican men are with younger women. I've seen it at restaurants and my travels. It isn't unique to Mexico and I've seen similar disparity all over the world. A man wants what he wants and if enough budget could have a harem like in the Middle East. At the Middle East airports, you can see a guy with his 4 wives and Filipina or Indonesian housekeeper taking care of their every need. Honestly, it maybe just 3-5 hairy dicks, but who really knows. You tried and knew in your heart the relationship was like a boat ready to capsize. Hope you enjoyed your time and move onto the next.

  6. #1348

    Couldn't Have Said It Any Better

    Quote Originally Posted by ABAJoeSmith123  [View Original Post]
    Totally agree. Almost impossible to develop a normal relationship with a working girl in Tijuana unless you're willing to make a TON of sacrifices. I've tried and learned the hard way. I developed a strong and very close relationship with a working HK girl. But deep down I knew I could never do anything long term and that at some point we would have a nasty break up be / see I wasn't willing to cement it into a formal public relationship like a marriage or something be / see I saw a lot of potential problems of marrying a Tijuana hooker (many ramifications socially, professionally, etc). I also began to feel quite uncomfortable being in public with her out of fear that I'd bump into people I knew or knowing that all the mexican people around us in normal locations knew that it was odd to see an ugly bloke like me with a super hot woman that was clearly out of my league to the point that I wouldn't be surpirsed if people thought I was carrying around an escort. The biggest setback to maintaining anything longterm with a working girl is the cost; I was hemorrhaging so much money be / see she expected financial support for her kids, family and all her monthly expenses. That was not sustainable to me. It was a financial hemorrhage that was a very stupid thing to do in retrospect. YOu may find a good working girl like the one I was in a relationship with, but their warped sense of reality and financial expecations are unreasonable and they carry a lot of baggage and drama. As I diminshed the amount of money I was giving, she immediately went back to the club again. The interesting thing is that I was still giving her money while she was back in the club, so I was TRULY a retard for still letting the relationship continue while she was back to sucking 20 hairy dicks a day.
    This post from Mr. Smith is right on the money and matches my experience. Of course mine was a little different because one of my relationships almost resulted in me being knifed to death. But the rest is spot on. The sentence that everybody needs to understand is this one:

    "Almost impossible to develop a normal relationship with a working girl in Tijuana unless you're willing to make a TON of sacrifices. ".

    These sacrifices are generally financial and usually include having to fork over money for things like paying her rent now that she isn't working, doctor bills (including for her and her children), haircuts, hair extensions, food, propane, electricity, her cell phone bill, clothes, transportation, school uniforms, school tuition, her parents that get sick, funeral money, entertainment, cable television. And the list goes on and on. I had two major relationships with ex putas, one from Tropical who had no kids and the other who worked in Adelitas for only a short time of which she hated but had 4 kids to support. It was bad enough having to pay for the girl from Tropical who was single let alone having to pay for the girl with four kids. And let me tell you, there was something that came up every single week where she needed money. This girl with the four kids was beautiful and the nicest woman I have ever met. Unfortunately, she was draining me considerably and I called it off. She had a nice family but her ex husband became drug addicted and abandoned his family leaving her to fend for them alone. But of course this is Mexico so there is no accountability for child support. Funny how this dude ended up with another wife and children after all of this and can't even send one dime to his flesh and blood children.

    Forget the relationship idea with these putas. Find a non-puta girl and hopefully one that has some semblance of earning potential (I know this is easier said than done).

  7. #1347
    Quote Originally Posted by SeaBeeJoe  [View Original Post]
    Unless a working girl quits the business forever and settles down with you it won't work out. Even then when she is low on money the addiction of easy money always looms in her mind. I am no Don Juan but my past relationships with working. Girls never worked out even when they quit the work. Like Luke Powell says " you can take the girl out of the club, but you can't take the club out of the girl." Be safe fellas.
    The easy money is a survival instinct that switches on when money runs low. Hopefully they have legitimate reasons like family instead of feeding an addiction or material things. They need to be able to make the decision to stop work, but also have a plan to replace the income that they can reasonably stay within budget. Dating a working girl is definitely not for the faint of heart as one person said, they didn't meet in church.

  8. #1346
    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing24  [View Original Post]
    Better to just find a civilian girl and not have to worry about all that stuff. Dating in 2023 can already be stressful as it is LOL.
    Totally agree. Almost impossible to develop a normal relationship with a working girl in Tijuana unless you're willing to make a TON of sacrifices. I've tried and learned the hard way. I developed a strong and very close relationship with a working HK girl. But deep down I knew I could never do anything long term and that at some point we would have a nasty break up be / see I wasn't willing to cement it into a formal public relationship like a marriage or something be / see I saw a lot of potential problems of marrying a Tijuana hooker (many ramifications socially, professionally, etc). I also began to feel quite uncomfortable being in public with her out of fear that I'd bump into people I knew or knowing that all the mexican people around us in normal locations knew that it was odd to see an ugly bloke like me with a super hot woman that was clearly out of my league to the point that I wouldn't be surpirsed if people thought I was carrying around an escort. The biggest setback to maintaining anything longterm with a working girl is the cost; I was hemorrhaging so much money be / see she expected financial support for her kids, family and all her monthly expenses. That was not sustainable to me. It was a financial hemorrhage that was a very stupid thing to do in retrospect. YOu may find a good working girl like the one I was in a relationship with, but their warped sense of reality and financial expecations are unreasonable and they carry a lot of baggage and drama. As I diminshed the amount of money I was giving, she immediately went back to the club again. The interesting thing is that I was still giving her money while she was back in the club, so I was TRULY a retard for still letting the relationship continue while she was back to sucking 20 hairy dicks a day.

  9. #1345
    Quote Originally Posted by SeaBeeJoe  [View Original Post]
    Unless a working girl quits the business forever and settles down with you it won't work out. Even then when she is low on money the addiction of easy money always looms in her mind. I am no Don Juan but my past relationships with working. Girls never worked out even when they quit the work. Like Luke Powell says " you can take the girl out of the club, but you can't take the club out of the girl." Be safe fellas.
    Better to just find a civilian girl and not have to worry about all that stuff. Dating in 2023 can already be stressful as it is LOL.

  10. #1344

    Relationships

    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing24  [View Original Post]
    I don't think she'll get pissed about me not wanting to move in with her, I think it's more wishful thinking on her part. She has already said if I don't want to end up getting a place together that she will most likely get one with one of the girls at the club. They have already talked about it and supposedly the only guys who will be allowed to visit will be her friend's boyfriend and me. Whether this actually ends up happening who the fuck knows. I try to take most things she tells me with a grain of salt as most things with these girls are "subject to change" LOL.

    I could see how perhaps you thought I was bragging about the breakfast part but it wasn't my intention at all. It's just what ended up happening. In hindsight I could have said we just ended up having breakfast and left it at that. If I wanted to brag that's the last thing I would think of to do so. A lot of times we see guys on here claiming that these girls are only out for themselves and give nothing but lazy CFS sessions, scamming guys out of money, when there are still a lot of nice and fun girls out there, you just have to find them. It's definitely YMMV in some cases. Some will click with you better than others. When you find a good one treat her well and you will reap the rewards.

    As far as the other stuff goes, I was telling a couple other guys that from now on I am going to start telling these girls I am married, even though I'm not, so that they feel like a serious relationship can not come into fruition. Because even if you're single and tell them you don't want anything serious they will still start to develop feelings for you in some cases. Not that's it's very common but it's just best to avoid all that stuff. Time and time again we have learned jumping into something serious with these girls never ends well and will leave you broke and depressed. Ideally you would like to pump and dump but if you hit the jackpot and happen to find a girl who provides GFE or PSE who the hell is going to realistically pump and dump that? You ride that wave until the very end, my friends.
    Unless a working girl quits the business forever and settles down with you it won't work out. Even then when she is low on money the addiction of easy money always looms in her mind. I am no Don Juan but my past relationships with working. Girls never worked out even when they quit the work. Like Luke Powell says " you can take the girl out of the club, but you can't take the club out of the girl." Be safe fellas.

  11. #1343
    Quote Originally Posted by KBToys  [View Original Post]
    It is best to keep things private. I've met many working girls that never explicitly asked for help, but I just gave what I could or felt would be sufficient. I guess it makes them feel less like client work compared to openly charging you normal rates. They genuinely enjoy spending time with you and sometimes pay for meals or even buy occasional gifts. Ive never turned down a gift as it would really look bad and make them lose face. Ive received clothing, gold pendants, and misc. other things in my travels. Hobby is very YMMV and it is best to be honest with your intentions. As you've said, ride it til the wheels fall off, but I imagine she is working the long game with you. I'd be surprised if she keeps trying to maintain the situationship when you decide not to move in together. Eventually they get tired that their efforts arent going anywhere and revert back to their life.
    I don't think she'll get pissed about me not wanting to move in with her, I think it's more wishful thinking on her part. She has already said if I don't want to end up getting a place together that she will most likely get one with one of the girls at the club. They have already talked about it and supposedly the only guys who will be allowed to visit will be her friend's boyfriend and me. Whether this actually ends up happening who the fuck knows. I try to take most things she tells me with a grain of salt as most things with these girls are "subject to change" LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sol12  [View Original Post]
    Well I'm a vey old fashioned guy and don't believe in women paying for me when we go out to eat. Even with friends in the US I have this policy. One of the things I like about Mexico is the fact that they still believe in some of these old values. I do agree that weather you paid for her time or not is irrelevant, I also agree that what a girl does with you for what ever you decide to pay shouldn't matter because with the girls it's YMMV. That's why I don't post info on this board, I don't want guys to think because some girl does x with me for x price that she will be that way with everyone.

    Now I do have a tendency to over analyze things so when reading your post the thing that jumped out to me was that you made it a point to say she bought you breakfast. So maybe I was wrong in thinking that you were bragging about that and I just didn't think it was the gentleman thing to do, so I just commented that you should of paid for it. Now with your explanation I understand more and it was a very nice thought on her part but I think if it was me I would of told her I appreciate the thought, but told her she works to hard for her money and it's important to me as a man to treat her like a woman and give her the money for the food.

    In regards to you and her that's between the two of you, I understand that what you have shared on this board is a very small amount which is very smart on your part. I just read what you have written and you seem to be a very nice guy that just has trouble being completely honest with the girls at times because you don't want to hurt their feelings. So maybe you truly are considering moving in with this girl like you told her but then you write that you are too deep and don't really want to take the next step with her. But like I said maybe it's just me over analyzing things.
    I could see how perhaps you thought I was bragging about the breakfast part but it wasn't my intention at all. It's just what ended up happening. In hindsight I could have said we just ended up having breakfast and left it at that. If I wanted to brag that's the last thing I would think of to do so. A lot of times we see guys on here claiming that these girls are only out for themselves and give nothing but lazy CFS sessions, scamming guys out of money, when there are still a lot of nice and fun girls out there, you just have to find them. It's definitely YMMV in some cases. Some will click with you better than others. When you find a good one treat her well and you will reap the rewards.

    As far as the other stuff goes, I was telling a couple other guys that from now on I am going to start telling these girls I am married, even though I'm not, so that they feel like a serious relationship can not come into fruition. Because even if you're single and tell them you don't want anything serious they will still start to develop feelings for you in some cases. Not that's it's very common but it's just best to avoid all that stuff. Time and time again we have learned jumping into something serious with these girls never ends well and will leave you broke and depressed. Ideally you would like to pump and dump but if you hit the jackpot and happen to find a girl who provides GFE or PSE who the hell is going to realistically pump and dump that? You ride that wave until the very end, my friends.

  12. #1342

    Gifts

    Quote Originally Posted by KBToys  [View Original Post]
    Sometimes they like to surprise you and want to feel like it is a normal relationship. Some have a lot of pride and want to show they are putting in effort and appreciation either through cooking a meal, paying for lunch or dinner, or even buying a gift. It would be rude of him to turn down thoughtful offerings. I also sometimes view it as dirty money, but the difference is they are working out of their own free will and it is a legal profession in Mexico.

    Also rent in Tijuana isn't that expensive, but depends on where you want to live and also what type of furnishings you plan to buy. I've heard from a chica that they can make all the money in the world, but be unhappy and if she genuinely enjoys time with you, then probably makes her day worth it when she gets off shift with him being home. As long as they are honest that it is just for fun and no potential for more, then Id say go for it.
    Yes it's hard to turn down a gift or if they offer to cook for you. I think in those situations you are either more involved and you might be giving them an allowance or something and you could justify it's your money paying for those items and not the guy that she was with the previous night. We all justify things in our minds to make it acceptable, I would be invited to another couples house for dinner and they both made money in illegal activities. I couldn't not eat the food since it would be disrespectful but I would try to avoid it as much as possible. The money is only dirty in my mind because I wasn't the one who did anything for it. I agree to the girl it's just money and they didn't do anything wrong. I just think when that money is spent on me I don't like it and I am just as bad as some pimp taking her money. I don't expect everyone to have the same views as me.

  13. #1341

    Just my view

    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing24  [View Original Post]
    I was fully expecting to pay for the meal. She left for 30 minutes in the morning to check on her friend who was staying around the block at a chica hotel because another friend had told her she got super wasted and dropped off at her room the night before and hadn't been heard from since. When she returned she already had the food with her so we could eat in the room. We had talked about going to a restaurant nearby and she was the one who chose to surprise me.

    I didn't mention a price because it's irrelevant. It's not what she would charge or expect from anybody else. Aside from the first time we met we have never discussed a price on anything, ever. Sometimes I give her money, sometimes I don't. I have said this in the past. In the end it ends up pretty much evening out anyway. We have known each other for a while, pretty sure she would have stopped dealing with me if she didn't like our situation. She has cut off other clients for much less.

    I already stated at this point I'm in too deep with her. At the same time I am transparent and honest about my feelings towards her. I already told her she will probably end up resenting me but she says she won't. I have also withheld some information about us for her privacy and anonymity. I think eventually she will develop feelings for someone else and will grow somewhat distant of me and I have come to terms with that possibility since I dont make myself emotionally available to her in the way she would like me to be. As long as I can see her every now and then I'm fine with it. For now I'm just enjoying the ride until it stops being fun.

    But yes, as I have told a couple of you offline, the mindset of pumping and dumping is definitely the way to go. Learn from me and others. This is what we share our experiences for.
    Well I'm a vey old fashioned guy and don't believe in women paying for me when we go out to eat. Even with friends in the US I have this policy. One of the things I like about Mexico is the fact that they still believe in some of these old values. I do agree that weather you paid for her time or not is irrelevant, I also agree that what a girl does with you for what ever you decide to pay shouldn't matter because with the girls it's YMMV. That's why I don't post info on this board, I don't want guys to think because some girl does x with me for x price that she will be that way with everyone.

    Now I do have a tendency to over analyze things so when reading your post the thing that jumped out to me was that you made it a point to say she bought you breakfast. So maybe I was wrong in thinking that you were bragging about that and I just didn't think it was the gentleman thing to do, so I just commented that you should of paid for it. Now with your explanation I understand more and it was a very nice thought on her part but I think if it was me I would of told her I appreciate the thought, but told her she works to hard for her money and it's important to me as a man to treat her like a woman and give her the money for the food.

    In regards to you and her that's between the two of you, I understand that what you have shared on this board is a very small amount which is very smart on your part. I just read what you have written and you seem to be a very nice guy that just has trouble being completely honest with the girls at times because you don't want to hurt their feelings. So maybe you truly are considering moving in with this girl like you told her but then you write that you are too deep and don't really want to take the next step with her. But like I said maybe it's just me over analyzing things.

  14. #1340
    Quote Originally Posted by Sol12  [View Original Post]
    Maybe it's me but knowing what she does for a living I myself would feel disgusted, I guess in my mind I see it as dirty money. For her it's fine she was the one that earned it but I just would never let a working girl buy me anything.

    You seem to be leading this girl and I hope it's not just because of the free sex. I think you could still move to Tijuana if you really wanted to you'd just have to rent your place out but I'd imagine you could rent it for more than what you pay in mortgage.

    I'm not trying to make you feel bad or say your a bad guy, I usually enjoy your posts, just seems like your getting involved with more drama with some of these girls than it's worth.
    Sometimes they like to surprise you and want to feel like it is a normal relationship. Some have a lot of pride and want to show they are putting in effort and appreciation either through cooking a meal, paying for lunch or dinner, or even buying a gift. It would be rude of him to turn down thoughtful offerings. I also sometimes view it as dirty money, but the difference is they are working out of their own free will and it is a legal profession in Mexico.

    Also rent in Tijuana isn't that expensive, but depends on where you want to live and also what type of furnishings you plan to buy. I've heard from a chica that they can make all the money in the world, but be unhappy and if she genuinely enjoys time with you, then probably makes her day worth it when she gets off shift with him being home. As long as they are honest that it is just for fun and no potential for more, then I’d say go for it.

  15. #1339
    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing24  [View Original Post]
    I didn't mention a price because it's irrelevant. It's not what she would charge or expect from anybody else. Aside from the first time we met we have never discussed a price on anything, ever. Sometimes I give her money, sometimes I don't. I have said this in the past. In the end it ends up pretty much evening out anyway. We have known each other for a while, pretty sure she would have stopped dealing with me if she didn't like our situation. She has cut off other clients for much less.

    I already stated at this point I'm in too deep with her. At the same time I am transparent and honest about my feelings towards her. I already told her she will probably end up resenting me but she says she won't. I have also withheld some information about us for her privacy and anonymity. I think eventually she will develop feelings for someone else and will grow somewhat distant of me and I have come to terms with that possibility since I dont make myself emotionally available to her in the way she would like me to be. As long as I can see her every now and then I'm fine with it. For now I'm just enjoying the ride until it stops being fun.

    But yes, as I have told a couple of you offline, the mindset of pumping and dumping is definitely the way to go. Learn from me and others. This is what we share our experiences for.
    It is best to keep things private. I've met many working girls that never explicitly asked for help, but I just gave what I could or felt would be sufficient. I guess it makes them feel less like client work compared to openly charging you normal rates. They genuinely enjoy spending time with you and sometimes pay for meals or even buy occasional gifts. Ive never turned down a gift as it would really look bad and make them lose face. Ive received clothing, gold pendants, and misc. other things in my travels. Hobby is very YMMV and it is best to be honest with your intentions. As you've said, ride it til the wheels fall off, but I imagine she is working the long game with you. I'd be surprised if she keeps trying to maintain the situationship when you decide not to move in together. Eventually they get tired that their efforts aren’t going anywhere and revert back to their life.

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