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01-26-21 17:32 #43633
Posts: 2921Originally Posted by LivingFossil [View Original Post]
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01-26-21 17:26 #43632
Posts: 3211Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
Now a version of the mask story is repeating itself — this time involving the vaccines. Once again, the experts don't seem to trust the public to hear the full truth.
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'Ridiculously encouraging'.
Right now, public discussion of the vaccines is full of warnings about their limitations: They're not 100 percent effective. Even vaccinated people may be able to spread the virus. And people shouldn't change their behavior once they get their shots.
These warnings have a basis in truth, just as it's true that masks are imperfect. But the sum total of the warnings is misleading, as I heard from multiple doctors and epidemiologists last week.
"It's driving me a little bit crazy," Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown School of Public Health, told me.
"We're underselling the vaccine," Dr. Aaron Richterman, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of Pennsylvania, said.
"It's going to save your life — that's where the emphasis has to be right now," Dr. Peter Hotez of the Baylor College of Medicine said.
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are "essentially 100 percent effective against serious disease," Dr. Paul Offit, the director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, said. "It's ridiculously encouraging. ".
The details.
Here's my best attempt at summarizing what we know:
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines — the only two approved in the USA — are among the best vaccines ever created, with effectiveness rates of about 95 percent after two doses. That's on par with the vaccines for chickenpox and measles. And a vaccine doesn't even need to be so effective to reduce cases sharply and crush a pandemic.
If anything, the 95 percent number understates the effectiveness, because it counts anyone who came down with a mild case of Covid-19 as a failure. But turning Covid into a typical flu — as the vaccines evidently did for most of the remaining 5 percent — is actually a success. Of the 32,000 people who received the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine in a research trial, do you want to guess how many contracted a severe Covid case? One.
Although no rigorous study has yet analyzed whether vaccinated people can spread the virus, it would be surprising if they did. "If there is an example of a vaccine in widespread clinical use that has this selective effect — prevents disease but not infection — I can't think of one!" Dr. Paul Sax of Harvard has written in The New England Journal of Medicine. (And, no, exclamation points are not common in medical journals.) On Twitter, Dr. Monica Gandhi of the University of California, San Francisco, argued: "Please be assured that YOU are safe after vaccine from what matters — disease and spreading. "
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01-26-21 17:25 #43631
Posts: 3801CIM Does That Mean Come In Mouth
Originally Posted by Kafka [View Original Post]
I'll be carrying my card with me wherever I go as I guess it's like a permission slip, and maybe the back of the card should also say it's okay to swallow.
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01-26-21 17:18 #43630
Posts: 371Even with the vaccine.
Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
This isn't that complicated: The vaccine means if you get the virus, it most probably won't mae you sick at all-more than likely, you will be asymptomatic. . but it doesn't mean you can't carry the virus and spread it. So, until enough people are vaccinated and isolated to stop the spread and burn out the virus, people will need to continue to mask up abd be tested for travel in order to stop spreading the virus. Not spreading the virus also helps limit viral mutations.
The PCR test is more accurate in a way, but it only reads if you had enough viral load I your system to show on the test -you can be infected up to 72 hours prior to the pcr test and still show negative--even though you would soon afterward test positive. This leaves a 6 day gap in testing results to travel time: 3 days before your tet and the 72 hours from test priot to flight.
In order to account for these 6 days a little bit, the antigen test exists. Its a rapid test with results in minutes. Generally not as accurate as pcr testing-but the trade is the results are more recent to the travel. Ideally, a rapid tet just prior to flying, 3 days quarantine upon arrival and another test to be free of quarantine to account for infection during travel would be the norm around the planet.
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01-26-21 17:17 #43629
Posts: 3801Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
Perhaps Colombia if it instigates a quarantine in the future, will allow those who have been vaccinated not to be quarantined, however how they would verify this is unknown for the time being as any one could fabricate the vaccination cards being issued in the USA. I know that besides the cards being issued, some of those who have been vaccinated will have a digital record of the vaccinations they received. In Southern California they are using an APP in one of the Counties that has complete information about those who have been vaccinated, including the Lot #, date, time, the vaccinator. My guess is some type of registry may be established to verify someone's status as to whether they have been vaccinated, no different than proving your a resident somewhere. So in this case it might be someone submitting a form of ID, the card they were issued at the vaccination Site, and then somebody (Government) verifying thru the APP that was used by the vaccinating agency / County that this person showed up and received the shots / lots / vaccine shown on the card.
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01-26-21 17:02 #43628
Posts: 1643You Are A Genius
Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
Life just keeps getting better in Medellin. I blocked Cat Girl.
Thank you for being the First to suggest that there could be value to the system instead of reflexively discounting it. I am used to skepticism as I made a career if being an "out of the box" thinker, often with better results. I might be the only human in the universe for which the system is suitable, I am not trying to sell it to anyone or say it's a better way. This is not a contest. I can trash it tomorrow or lean on it another five years. One day at a time.
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01-26-21 16:22 #43627
Posts: 582Even if they don't accept that it's good to have it. Both of vaccine and the car the card..... For the cim you can show the card.
Hehehehehe
Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
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01-26-21 16:15 #43626
Posts: 42Same consensus from my short research
Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]
I do worry about Scopolamine and how actually one can avoid the being drugged. My cards have a capped daily / weekly limit and pretty stringent fraud protection.
I'll be arriving and I think I'll be choosing an airbnb near centro with no doorman (the building / apartment looks nice). My concern here is, if I bring girls over I have never met, how risky is it to get drugged?
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01-26-21 16:03 #43625
Posts: 2921Keep Numero Uno vacant
Originally Posted by Osteoknot [View Original Post]
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01-26-21 16:00 #43624
Posts: 2921Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
As I understand it, vaccine does not mean one will not get infected. I think a vaccinated person will be similar to asymptomatic case. , then for some people vaccine does not work well.
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01-26-21 12:53 #43623
Posts: 19Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
In principle I dominate the language.
On Instagram topic.
How do you do to get the girls?
The ones with 400 k followers.
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01-26-21 08:28 #43622
Posts: 1643I broke the rules For COVID
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
When I left the country just before COVID, I told my GF that I would be back before the next rent check was due, in 3 weeks, permanently. We both were on the same page. Then COVID hit. Who here dreamed 10 months or however long it has been we'd still be dealing with this shite? I thought I was making a 2-3 month commitment at most when I started supporting Cat Girl in absentia at the beginning of this mess. She lost her job due to COVID. I never paid a peso to any girl after she left the room on 6 other continents before COVID.
Now, add to that, the money is less than pennies on the dollar to me. Unnoticeable and inconsequential except for the time it takes to hit the send button. I had to remind myself of the real value that is there to the receivers but I was happy to be in the position to do it. As far as how my sending money effects the mongering checks and balances or supply and demand or whatever you want to call it, I say none. Every man for himself in this game. By that I mean each man is left to his own devices. My devices have always been different, I am hard wired that way. I am honest to a fault and have never knowingly stabbed anyone in the back. Right now, I like where I am sitting and am open to all possibilities. I agree, as I said both times I did it, planning in this game is usually futile. The one comment that indirectly made me pause and think, was that a girl does not have to be selling sex to be pay for play. She can sell a dream, a fantasy, a lifestyle, whatever she thinks will pay.
Random Recent Gratuitous Sex Foto.
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01-26-21 06:07 #43621
Posts: 168LOL, JjB you the best.
Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
I googled Premium Plaza hotel and could get any info. Does anyone know the price and and it is nice and clean enough that anyone would might consider sleeping there overnight or is it an hourly type place? I assume its girl friendly.
Seems like centro is cheaper and more fun. I like grimy places hehe, but Lleras maybe has girls that "appear hotter". 30 K verus 250 K. These girls can't be eight times hotter.
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01-26-21 04:58 #43620
Posts: 1643Cartagena
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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01-26-21 04:41 #43619
Posts: 407Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
Half these girls you think are not P4 P are exactly that.
If your spanish is bad, and you are an older gringo, then she kind of knows the terms of engagement.
When you use the reverse logic with them, like talk to them in a way like you assume they mess around, the language of denial tells you how they think.