Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[Raju 1974]

Normally Tarragon is spelled with double letter-R I guess in English.

I did not recognise Taragon so looked it up. It appears (Google Maps) to be either a funny English approximation or a new name for Tharnthong (paired with soapy section at one point called "Selene" near MengJai intersection that I have visited before a small number of times. Its a very Thai oriented place. Has a Soapy oriented section and an Oily massage oriented section, a bit like Nataree has two sections. I thought I was the only Farang on ISG to ever go there. LOL.

In former times this place was called Maleena. Google Maps still shows the Tharnthong sign in Thai writing.

http://www.tharnthong.com/

Its possible the Tharnthong line up is above average, if attending at the right time, however I never managed to get a girl that was so good, I needed to keep returning for her.

Syzygies,

Seen the website seems quite interesting. Looks like very luxurious ambience, good service with quality stuff and that too quite cheap. Google map shows it is only 10 kms from Nana.

Any more detailed review about the services and so called models? Do they allow multi pop session, do they allow A+? Are the rates all inclusive or you need to pay separately for extra services. Can they communicate in English?

Thanks,

[Syzygies]

Some bootylicious ladies listed on site. How legit is this? Anyone has experience?

Thai Models probably lists girls that were really once at the place, although they rely of the establishment supplying the pics to be honest.

Pics are photo shopped. Many of the hottest girls are hard to find. May work very little or have left the place long ago. I have recognised some girls shown though.

I also had a great deal of problem finding any of them after making a short list of my favourite 20 girls pics from various sites and going to the establishments looking for them. Victoria was particularly disappointing in terms of line up well below standard of the pics.

I went to an Emanuelle Christmas party many years ago, so I know they once has a few good looking girls. However the line up has dwindled a lot, and 90% have bad nose jobs now, plus maybe tit jobs as well.

Many places have seriously declined compared to say 15 years ago. Actually the biggest decline in Soapies probably came when Thaksin came to power in 2001, as all the non-Thai and low age girls got cleared out. Most soapies went downhill steadily since then.

Utopia is an example of a once great club, that is in its dying stages. Emanuelle line up is vastly smaller too. Nataree is an exception still going strong. La Belle was envisaged to be a large successful club when it was built, but never reached its potential. I still miss its predecessor Mona Lisa, even though was a known rip off place (for newbies).

It would be nice if we had access to real pics of girls that really work there. Never going to happen.

The stunning Gaew still appears on the Pink Massage web site. No incentive to take her off even though she left there long ago. So yeh, the Oilies do it too. Lots of massively inflated line ups on web sites.

[Syzygies]

Some bootylicious ladies listed on site. How legit is this? Anyone has experience?

I have tried Victoria, Taragon, Copa Cabana and Emanuellle so far but did not find girls listed except in case of Taragon where all girls were pretty hot.

Normally Tarragon is spelled with double letter-R I guess in English.

I did not recognise Taragon so looked it up. It appears (Google Maps) to be either a funny English approximation or a new name for Tharnthong (paired with soapy section at one point called "Selene" near MengJai intersection that I have visited before a small number of times. Its a very Thai oriented place. Has a Soapy oriented section and an Oily massage oriented section, a bit like Nataree has two sections. I thought I was the only Farang on ISG to ever go there. LOL.

In former times this place was called Maleena. Google Maps still shows the Tharnthong sign in Thai writing.

http://www.tharnthong.com/

Its possible the Tharnthong line up is above average, if attending at the right time, however I never managed to get a girl that was so good, I needed to keep returning for her.

[DwayneJohnson]

Some bootylicious ladies listed on site. How legit is this? Anyone has experience?

I have tried Victoria, Taragon, Copa Cabana and Emanuellle so far but did not find girls listed except in case of Taragon where all girls were pretty hot.

[Syzygies]

LA Guy,

It starts to make more sense now. I see you asked for a massage first.

Standard procedure in a PSE shop for me was a BBBJ starts in the shower. On the bed straight into sex play and sex. Never commencing with a massage. If a girl offers me a massage first up, I would not have been impressed.

I have not tried any of the PSE girls you mentioned. I had my favourites but different girls and largely based on looks first up and based on performance for repeats.

[LA Guy 5]

Great post. Felt a bit nostalgic reading that list of names, most of whom I had the pleasure on enjoying on many occasions. Methinks training is a rare thing these days, even at some of the old school PSE places. One gal who just "retired" from one of them told me that training of the new girls amounts to almost nothing.

I too have been frequenting the oilies for nigh on a decade now and I miss the service we received in the "good ole days. " No matter who you took, you knew it was going to be up to a certain standard. And just as important as you stated, you did not have to ask for it. Saeng's would say, "All ladies do everything. " And that was spot on. I really dislike having to ask. "Hey, will she lick my a* I find that kind of crass really.

Nowadays it's a crap shoot at most places.

Thanks for the kind words and sharing some of your memories. For whatever reason, I too would find it crass and a bit embarrassing to ask for rimming and I never have asked for it. In fact, I used to be a bit embarrassed to ask whether a girl did anal, which some, almost certainly a minority until recently, of the PSE girls did not do. However, now that many of the PSE shops adopt the term A+ to describe this, and advertise it as such on their websites, I have little embarrassment asking which girls do A+.

I mention this because it brings to mind what I considered a humorous thing that happened during my recent session with Yaya. I had already gone two rounds to completion with her, rested a bit, and all of a sudden she pointed her ass in my direction, turned her face around to me, and asked "A+?" essentially trying to get me to go for another round. At least I found her use of that terminology amusing in that context.

But there is another point that follows from this. It is precisely because Yaya and Guitar were so willing to try to please that training of the sort that used to be routine at PSE shops could really up their game. Basically, they have raw talent and good attitudes, but some PSE-style training could bring their performance to a higher level. And frankly, it should not be up to the customer to provide it.

[Goatscrot]

To answer one of your specific questions, I never have asked for rimming and never needed to. What happens is the girl and I leave the initial shower, I say I would like an oil massage first (or sometimes the girl asks me first), and then I lie down on my stomach on the bed and play the role of a beached whale for a few minutes. That is it.

For whatever reason, the girls would do rimming during the initial massage, but did not (I suppose unless asked, which I never did) do so during the between rounds massage even if at one point they were trying to arouse you for the second round. I found this curious, but that is the way it has always been.

To put some substance on this, here is a list off the top of my head of some of the girls who then proceeded to give me a medium / hard massage for about five minutes, then a soft sexy massage followed by rimming, with the girl then telling me to turn over (there is a small chance my memory is wrong and one or two of these girls did not do exactly what I am saying, but I doubt it). This sequence was extremely similar across all these girls:

Fa, Snow White ("SW").

Creme, SW.

Grace, Victoria.

We, Baron / Tulip.

Cat, Tulip.

Teena, Tulip.

Jane, Tulip.

Or, Tulip.

Pammy, Tulip.

See, Tulip.

Bo, Mango (although after becoming famous, sometimes avoided the rimming).

Amy, Mango.

Ice, Mango.

Bo, Cherry (fairly certain she did rimming as part of the massage).

April, SW, now Bongkot (fairly certain she dd rimming as part of the massage).

June, Tulip.

Nestle, Tulip.

May, Tulip then Snow White, now Bongkot.

Fa, Tulip.

Pim, Tulip.

There are many more but these are the ones that come to mind and whose names I can remember.

At least during the time around 2005-2008, and probably after as well, most girls at Tulip came from Nakon Phanom, and from what I understand when they first arrived they slept on the premises (although this latter information is based on hearsay). Senior girls would then train them and it was not uncommon for the senior girls to ask trusted customers whether they wanted to do a three-some with a senior girl and a new girl in training (this was one way the training worked). I have read accounts of the senior girl barking out instructions during these training sessions of what the new girl should do at various points (I'm not enamored with three-somes so never participated as a training "guinea pig") . As a result of this system, the girls (with the exception of those who could not be well-trained) performed similarly, including during the initial massage.

Later, Snow White started up and a couple of the Tulip girls went there and trained the Snow White girls. Similarly for Mango. And Victoria. And I believe Cherry as well. Bongkot has a couple of ex-Tulip trainers I believe, although they were at some other shops after leaving Tulip and before joining Bongkot.

However, some of these second-generation shops (actually third-generation because Baron's preceded Tulip) have lost some of their original trainers, and it seems the level of service and presumably training has become less consistent as a result. I had become accustomed to a certain level of service at PSE shops previously, this was given as a matter of course at PSE shops (without having to ask for it at all). I have, however, very recently noticed that at least at some PSE shops this level of service (or, if one prefers, type of service) can no longer be relied upon.

My preference in this regard is to receive the same type of service that has been routinely given at the PSE shops, and still is to a lesser extent. I'm not asking for anything more, or anything less and to the extent this represents a personal preference, it is a preference that has resulted from receiving this type of service routinely for over a decade without ever having to ask for it. As I noted earlier, I had this type of service at Tulip last week and I did nothing but ask for an oily massage and then lie on my stomach. The girl did the rest, following in what is now a more than decade-long tradition of what service at a PSE shop entails (but, again, a tradition that it is beginning to seem is no longer uniformly followed).

Great post. Felt a bit nostalgic reading that list of names, most of whom I had the pleasure on enjoying on many occasions. Methinks training is a rare thing these days, even at some of the old school PSE places. One gal who just "retired" from one of them told me that training of the new girls amounts to almost nothing.

I too have been frequenting the oilies for nigh on a decade now and I miss the service we received in the "good ole days. " No matter who you took, you knew it was going to be up to a certain standard. And just as important as you stated, you did not have to ask for it. Saeng's would say, "All ladies do everything. " And that was spot on. I really dislike having to ask. "Hey, will she lick my a* I find that kind of crass really.

Nowadays it's a crap shoot at most places.

[LA Guy 5]

I was thinking of Oilies in general. The shops you mention are probably all PSE shops that work differently.

I am not indeed experienced in massages at PSE shops. In fact I never had a massage at a PSE shop at all. There was never time for that or I prefered to just rest after a sex workout and allow the girl to rest since time remaining was short.

I have experienced massages in non PSE shops so that is where my experience comes from. This was not a good experience generally. Most of these massages were of little interest to me.

Naturally the other poster mentioning Healthland for a real massage, was not referring to a place for sex play. I thought that was only too obvious. Many guys like a real massage and don't go to a PSE shop for that.

I also thought is was strange to criticise a PSE shop girl whose massage procedure was not exactly to your personal specifications. In fact you wanted a sex play semi massage thing which is not really a massage at all. Like the other guy, I go to a PSE Oily for full on sex. Massage no.

Your assumption seemed to be that whatever you like, for a procedure at a PSE, must be the correct one that should be provided, and girls will all have been trained to give precisely the same.

As Goatscroat points out, the very best girls could adapt to each customers likes and needs, once she finds out what they are. She will have to be told or learn that gradually. Its not pure instinct to know exactly what each customer needs. I do tell them or sometimes I just start doing things, as I lead rather than follow. I have trained plenty of girls in special things I like. E. g. To brush tits and nipples on my balls while giving the blowjob. Most don't use this manoeuvre without being told. Of course only works if tits are big enough.

Some PSE shop girls may be massage experts too, but its unrealistic to think they will all be good at it. Many of us just don't care if the girl has any massage ability or not.

If a PSE shop girl gives a non sexy massage, it maybe because she comes from a more regular Oily where I have expereinced many non sexy massages.

So apologies for considering standard practice in normal average Oily MPs. PSE shops don't dominate my visits any more becaise the girls just aren't pretty enough for me, and as I aaid, I never take massage in PSE shop at all. In Tulip in the past it was always sex from start to finish.

Is every PSE shop girl trained to give rimming? Not in my experience. I don't recall receiving it that often. Maybe it has to be requested. However I never asked for it. Do girls understand the word "rimming"? I don't know since I don't speak English to girls and I don't know if Thais have any special word for it other than the literally explicit "lick asshole". I perform rimming on most girls unless they obviously want to dodge it. I receive it far less often, even in PSE shops.

To answer one of your specific questions, I never have asked for rimming and never needed to. What happens is the girl and I leave the initial shower, I say I would like an oil massage first (or sometimes the girl asks me first), and then I lie down on my stomach on the bed and play the role of a beached whale for a few minutes. That is it.

For whatever reason, the girls would do rimming during the initial massage, but did not (I suppose unless asked, which I never did) do so during the between rounds massage even if at one point they were trying to arouse you for the second round. I found this curious, but that is the way it has always been.

To put some substance on this, here is a list off the top of my head of some of the girls who then proceeded to give me a medium / hard massage for about five minutes, then a soft sexy massage followed by rimming, with the girl then telling me to turn over (there is a small chance my memory is wrong and one or two of these girls did not do exactly what I am saying, but I doubt it). This sequence was extremely similar across all these girls:

Fa, Snow White ("SW").

Creme, SW.

Grace, Victoria.

We, Baron / Tulip.

Cat, Tulip.

Teena, Tulip.

Jane, Tulip.

Or, Tulip.

Pammy, Tulip.

See, Tulip.

Bo, Mango (although after becoming famous, sometimes avoided the rimming).

Amy, Mango.

Ice, Mango.

Bo, Cherry (fairly certain she did rimming as part of the massage).

April, SW, now Bongkot (fairly certain she dd rimming as part of the massage).

June, Tulip.

Nestle, Tulip.

May, Tulip then Snow White, now Bongkot.

Fa, Tulip.

Pim, Tulip.

There are many more but these are the ones that come to mind and whose names I can remember.

At least during the time around 2005-2008, and probably after as well, most girls at Tulip came from Nakon Phanom, and from what I understand when they first arrived they slept on the premises (although this latter information is based on hearsay). Senior girls would then train them and it was not uncommon for the senior girls to ask trusted customers whether they wanted to do a three-some with a senior girl and a new girl in training (this was one way the training worked). I have read accounts of the senior girl barking out instructions during these training sessions of what the new girl should do at various points (I'm not enamored with three-somes so never participated as a training "guinea pig") . As a result of this system, the girls (with the exception of those who could not be well-trained) performed similarly, including during the initial massage.

Later, Snow White started up and a couple of the Tulip girls went there and trained the Snow White girls. Similarly for Mango. And Victoria. And I believe Cherry as well. Bongkot has a couple of ex-Tulip trainers I believe, although they were at some other shops after leaving Tulip and before joining Bongkot.

However, some of these second-generation shops (actually third-generation because Baron's preceded Tulip) have lost some of their original trainers, and it seems the level of service and presumably training has become less consistent as a result. I had become accustomed to a certain level of service at PSE shops previously, this was given as a matter of course at PSE shops (without having to ask for it at all). I have, however, very recently noticed that at least at some PSE shops this level of service (or, if one prefers, type of service) can no longer be relied upon.

My preference in this regard is to receive the same type of service that has been routinely given at the PSE shops, and still is to a lesser extent. I'm not asking for anything more, or anything less and to the extent this represents a personal preference, it is a preference that has resulted from receiving this type of service routinely for over a decade without ever having to ask for it. As I noted earlier, I had this type of service at Tulip last week and I did nothing but ask for an oily massage and then lie on my stomach. The girl did the rest, following in what is now a more than decade-long tradition of what service at a PSE shop entails (but, again, a tradition that it is beginning to seem is no longer uniformly followed).

[Syzygies]

Syzygies, here I previously thought you were an experienced and knowledgeable monger, but laugh away in your ignorance if it makes you feel good. I've been going to oilies for more than ten years, would estimate I have been with at least fifty oily massage girls, including at Tulip, Barons, Snow White, Mango, Victoria, and Cherry, and what I described is what I regularly got in the past as a matter of course, and often get presently. It is what the girls were in the past trained to do, and many these days still do (e. G. , Pammy last week at Tulip).

Now if your point was that many men rush to the "big event" and forego a sexy massage at the beginning, that would be legitimate as I have known men who opt out of the initial massage. But if your point is something else, like that oily girls generally will not try to turn you on while you are on your stomach, usually including with rimming, you are ignorant about this, which you in substance admit when you say you tell the girls not to give you a massage at the beginning. I suppose your knowledge about what the girls do during the initial massage, which is so reliable in your own mind that you deem it appropriate to "laugh" at my post, is somehow divined from the clouds given you admit you don't even partake in an initial massage.

Incidentally, I have never gotten the same sort of sexy massage, particularly with rimming and so forth, between rounds 1 and 2, only before round 1. I guess that is how they are trained.

It, of course, is fine for people here to respond to my post by saying they really don't care whether the girls are trained to give a sexy massage at the beginning of the session because they don't partake in the initial massage anyway. But to say, as you do, that you typically shun an initial massage, while claiming I am wrong about what it typically entails, is disordered thinking..

I was thinking of Oilies in general. The shops you mention are probably all PSE shops that work differently.

I am not indeed experienced in massages at PSE shops. In fact I never had a massage at a PSE shop at all. There was never time for that or I prefered to just rest after a sex workout and allow the girl to rest since time remaining was short.

I have experienced massages in non PSE shops so that is where my experience comes from. This was not a good experience generally. Most of these massages were of little interest to me.

Naturally the other poster mentioning Healthland for a real massage, was not referring to a place for sex play. I thought that was only too obvious. Many guys like a real massage and don't go to a PSE shop for that.

I also thought is was strange to criticise a PSE shop girl whose massage procedure was not exactly to your personal specifications. In fact you wanted a sex play semi massage thing which is not really a massage at all. Like the other guy, I go to a PSE Oily for full on sex. Massage no.

Your assumption seemed to be that whatever you like, for a procedure at a PSE, must be the correct one that should be provided, and girls will all have been trained to give precisely the same.

As Goatscroat points out, the very best girls could adapt to each customers likes and needs, once she finds out what they are. She will have to be told or learn that gradually. Its not pure instinct to know exactly what each customer needs. I do tell them or sometimes I just start doing things, as I lead rather than follow. I have trained plenty of girls in special things I like. E. g. To brush tits and nipples on my balls while giving the blowjob. Most don't use this manoeuvre without being told. Of course only works if tits are big enough.

Some PSE shop girls may be massage experts too, but its unrealistic to think they will all be good at it. Many of us just don't care if the girl has any massage ability or not.

If a PSE shop girl gives a non sexy massage, it maybe because she comes from a more regular Oily where I have expereinced many non sexy massages.

So apologies for considering standard practice in normal average Oily MPs. PSE shops don't dominate my visits any more becaise the girls just aren't pretty enough for me, and as I aaid, I never take massage in PSE shop at all. In Tulip in the past it was always sex from start to finish.

Is every PSE shop girl trained to give rimming? Not in my experience. I don't recall receiving it that often. Maybe it has to be requested. However I never asked for it. Do girls understand the word "rimming"? I don't know since I don't speak English to girls and I don't know if Thais have any special word for it other than the literally explicit "lick asshole". I perform rimming on most girls unless they obviously want to dodge it. I receive it far less often, even in PSE shops.

[MikeDubai]

If we are talking about May / Mony, formerly of Tulip, she now works at Bongkot, at least as of a few days ago. Then again, after a period of working at Tulip for what seemed like a few years, she did develop the tendency to bounce around from place to place, so it wouldn't be shocking (although I would be a bit surprised) if she were now at Eden.

Then again, with all the different spellings it is possible we are taking about different girls.

This has to be Monay, surely?

OMG that girl was amazing. If it is her, I am so grateful for the update on her whereabouts. Only ever went with her once whilst she was at Tulip, and then on my next trip she had moved on.

Back in Bangkok in early October and will definitely try to see her!

[Tptp76]

Regarding massages at Healthland vs. the PSE oilies I think we are talking about apples and oranges here. Although I have never had a massage at Healthland, based on what I have heard about the place I think it is unlikely the girls there do rimming, for example, during the massage. It used to be fairly standard at places like Barons, Tulip, Mango, and Snow White, but it seems these days perhaps a bit less so.

I have been to Healthland a few times and it was completely legit each time. I wasnt looking for anything more so didn't even try but, there wasnt even a hint that anything more was available.

[LA Guy 5]

Well your point may appeal to some punters here. But I have a different take on it. I take a long time for round 2, so I want to go straight into boom boom within say 10-15 minutes of getting ready, After round 1, I take time to connect with the girl if I am doing her for the first time, I do ask them about their families, kids etc in between and I like them to lay down besides me and do some pillow talk which can be emotional to plain naughty talk, infact I learned a lot of Thai words and sentences from there and the ladies love to teach and correct your grammar etc.

For me I am very happy with the ladies at Candy or cherry or SW etc. They have had their basic training and that is to be as PSE as possible & allow customers to cum as many times as they want. I do not go to these establishments for getting a massage, I go there for some action and I get that. If I want a massage, I go to Healthland. ,. Just my POV, just saying YMMV!

Regarding massages at Healthland vs. the PSE oilies I think we are talking about apples and oranges here. Although I have never had a massage at Healthland, based on what I have heard about the place I think it is unlikely the girls there do rimming, for example, during the massage. It used to be fairly standard at places like Barons, Tulip, Mango, and Snow White, but it seems these days perhaps a bit less so.

[Goatscrot]

Incidentally, I have never gotten the same sort of sexy massage, particularly with rimming and so forth, between rounds 1 and 2, only before round 1. I guess that is how they are trained.

The good ones can change on the fly according to the customers wishes. I never take a massage before round 1, preferring to get "right to the action. " However, I find that a good firm Thai massage between rounds relaxes me and lets me recharge for round 2, which if the gal is good enough will be a BBBJCIM. As I stated the good ones will "monitor and adjust" according to the wants of the customer. All the old Tulip gals were magnificent at this. Plus they could all give a pretty good massage. A few I would put up against many of the "real" massage gals out there.

[Member #4591]

Now now boys. I can't believe people are arguing about whether or not a massage at the beginning of an oily session is the norm. La Guy you are just too dam sensitive and Syzgies you often make comments that are really not needed. I think the best idea would be to meet up for a 300 Baht massage and kiss and make up. Just a joke to get you too to quit. Both you guys have a wealth of knowledge to contribute to the forum So just contribute so we can all learn from you two and stop bickering about stupid stuff.

[LA Guy 5]

La Guy,

Your post makes me laugh. You can train the girls yourself to your special requirements. Most Oily girls are not trying to turn you on while on stomach. They are not in hurry to get to the sex.

I say to them we will do special first and massage later if any time left. I don't actually like real massage at all. Just a bullshit thing to me.

Syzygies, here I previously thought you were an experienced and knowledgeable monger, but laugh away in your ignorance if it makes you feel good. I've been going to oilies for more than ten years, would estimate I have been with at least fifty oily massage girls, including at Tulip, Barons, Snow White, Mango, Victoria, and Cherry, and what I described is what I regularly got in the past as a matter of course, and often get presently. It is what the girls were in the past trained to do, and many these days still do (e. G. , Pammy last week at Tulip).

Now if your point was that many men rush to the "big event" and forego a sexy massage at the beginning, that would be legitimate as I have known men who opt out of the initial massage. But if your point is something else, like that oily girls generally will not try to turn you on while you are on your stomach, usually including with rimming, you are ignorant about this, which you in substance admit when you say you tell the girls not to give you a massage at the beginning. I suppose your knowledge about what the girls do during the initial massage, which is so reliable in your own mind that you deem it appropriate to "laugh" at my post, is somehow divined from the clouds given you admit you don't even partake in an initial massage.

Incidentally, I have never gotten the same sort of sexy massage, particularly with rimming and so forth, between rounds 1 and 2, only before round 1. I guess that is how they are trained.

It, of course, is fine for people here to respond to my post by saying they really don't care whether the girls are trained to give a sexy massage at the beginning of the session because they don't partake in the initial massage anyway. But to say, as you do, that you typically shun an initial massage, while claiming I am wrong about what it typically entails, is disordered thinking..