Angeles City

[Dg8787]

In 2010 you could find good looking women with fresh bodies charging reasonable rates who did LT quite easily. That's only 10 years ago, not 40-50. The rapid decline has been monumental and yet the prices have doubled to the point where they now surpass Western Europe in this third world country.

If the bars are dead and "everything is online", why would anyone go to Angeles City where the only attraction has ever been bars?

And it's not that simple anyway. Across the board Filipinas have gotten fatter, flabbier, more covered with tattoos, and less kind and accommodating. Yet with the wonders of the internet prices have only gone up.

I do "deal with it". By not going to AC anymore.

Quite frustrating and disgusting over the past 10 years about the decline in quality and service. Especially during the 10 years when the mongers have been working out, lost weight and beer bellies, got toned hard bodies, grew more thicker hair and substantially increased their income along with increased sexual endurance and hardness.

Life just isn't fair!

[Goferring]

If the bars are dead and "everything is online", why would anyone go to Angeles City where the only attraction has ever been bars?

I go to AC because it's a fascinating, cosmopolitan city full of fine attractions, good food and fun times. LOL. 😀.

I think that this topic shows that guys still go their trying to relive old times and hoping that "this trip" will be different. Add in visiting resident friends or a lust for the grimy and you would cover most visitors.

Unfortunately, bar hopping mongers have been fighting battles on all fronts. More low / mid level jobs, and the ability for girls to seek a "permanent relationship" online with out being labelled a bar hooker have reduced the supply of fresh and fun bar girls. Equally, exploding discount flights have made getting there far easier, increasing visitor numbers. Western Union Romeos are paying girls big bucks with out even seeing them and many of the girls have worked overseas or know of someone who has so are very aware of western rates and feel they can charge accordingly.

Don't even get me started on the role of KOR or CHN tourists who seek and pay handsomely based on girls' looks and ability to impress workmates without any regard for actual service levels.

All of the above is why I go to bars to have a few drinks, meet other guys and have a perve but very rarely bar fine anyone.

Cheers. G.

[Expat American]

I have been going to AC since before the social media was even really a thing (early 2000's). To me the biggest fun of AC was the bars. Go sit in a bar, buy a few LDs and have 2-4 cute 19-20 year olds all over you. That was something not available anywhere. And then you could take one or more back and fuck her for the equivalent of $25 for all night. I told my friends about it and they thought I was a major BS -er until some came with me on a trip. For me the bar fun suppressed the fun in the bedroom. Over the last few years bar fun has dropped dramatically. No more naked girls eating whipped cream off each other. No more body paint contests. No more hands in the pants for 20 min for a 1,5 $ drink. Yes you can still fuck them now for about 50 or 60 bucks all night which is double the price but is 15 years later so that's not the worst part. I can still find a decent fuck from a bar. But if I want to get a girl online I would rather go to a point and click bar. Either way the service is unknown but at least the looks are not. If I want to play the internet I pull non pros and play the whole game. Takes longer but you get a real GF, not just a GFE. I still go to AC but now I live in Singapore its an easy short weekend trip. I surely wouldn't fly from the US or Europe anymore.

[Rick Rock]

I buy drinks for bar girls primarily so I can audition them and see if she is the right girl for me. A girl's looks gets me interested or not, but I don't barfine unless she passes the audition. Second, I have fun drinking and fooling around with hookers in their bars. It turns me on.

AC may be a little different nowadays than my favorite haunts namely BKK, MNL, & Pattaya. Go Go Girls in my big 3 BARFINE! That's a given.

You're right about the audition and even looking at them in person is totally different from the photoshop instagram filter world of the internet where nothing is as it appears. A lot easier to ignore a pig in a bar than one who you invited to your front door. The internet isn't what it is cracked up to be at all in terms of booking women.

[Rick Rock]

Guys, this is not rocket science: life has moved on from bars and everything you want is now online.

I too miss the 70's and 80's but life has moved on. Deal with it.

In 2010 you could find good looking women with fresh bodies charging reasonable rates who did LT quite easily. That's only 10 years ago, not 40-50. The rapid decline has been monumental and yet the prices have doubled to the point where they now surpass Western Europe in this third world country.

If the bars are dead and "everything is online", why would anyone go to Angeles City where the only attraction has ever been bars?

And it's not that simple anyway. Across the board Filipinas have gotten fatter, flabbier, more covered with tattoos, and less kind and accommodating. Yet with the wonders of the internet prices have only gone up.

I do "deal with it". By not going to AC anymore.

[Mr Enternational]

Not many online girls in Pattaya on date in Asia.

They are all in Thai Friendly. There is a cost, but I think it is worth it.

[Mr Enternational]

Getting girls outside the bar scene takes time and effort that most guys don't have. The point is the prices here are equal to what they are back home so why come here anymore there is no value in it.

I always thought the opposite. You can even sit on the toilet and look online at hundreds of women in a matter of minutes. Hit them up and cam with them a minute before telling them to come over. Versus leaving your place and going from bar to bar being pestered to buy shit for everyone and their mother. Wasting hours going from bar to bar.

It is the same way that I have been shopping on Amazon the past few years. With a click I can see many options of the product I am looking for and compare prices. It can be delivered to me the next day. Even with looking for chicks online you can do it before you arrive and get bargain prices. Anytime, 24 hours each day. No need to wait until you have boots on the gound and a bar opens. Only thing is in a bar you can feel a chick out more in person. Looks, not really because of the lighting, plus you are wearing beer goggles. Like it or not, the game has moved to the web.

[Sammon]

Guys, this is not rocket science: life has moved on from bars and everything you want is now online.

I too miss the 70's and 80's but life has moved on. Deal with it.

Concur!

While it is easy to point and click in bars other way picking freelancers and online girls requires some thinking and filtering. Lots of young girls do not have the means to get a phone let alone get online roaming. Those who are openly advertising are seasoned girls.

Only good thing in bars is you get to check out physical appearance. Gone are the days you get to see half naked girls. Although there are hygiene checks it is suspect. Those who are watching their pesos it costs more to get a girl from the bars. Even if you are bar hopping and having one drink each and few obligatory lady drinks you need to buy including mamasan hoping she will help you costs almost equal to the barfine. There could be many disappointments like cherry girl, drinks only, short time only, no BBBJ, runners, sick faking etc.

Online girls are cheaper if you hold the line. Never trust the pictures. Always cam chat and see the goods. Many are willing to show their body once they know you are serious and visiting soon.

My trip is coming up soon unless disrupted by corona virus. Have lined up few in Manila, Cebu, Bangkok. In Pattaya hoping to pick up somebody. Not many online girls in Pattaya on date in Asia. In Bangkok there are many. One I got has a car although she is 28 years old.

Not planning to go to Angeles this time.

[Member #4698]

I don't understand why you guys are still buying drinks before you know the girl will leave with you, then complaining that they will not leave with you. But hell, if you know she will leave with you then why buy any drinks at all? I guess I have never understood buying drinks for hookers anyway.

I buy drinks for bar girls primarily so I can audition them and see if she is the right girl for me. A girl's looks gets me interested or not, but I don't barfine unless she passes the audition. Second, I have fun drinking and fooling around with hookers in their bars. It turns me on.

AC may be a little different nowadays than my favorite haunts namely BKK, MNL, & Pattaya. Go Go Girls in my big 3 BARFINE! That's a given.

[The Cane]

I don't understand why you guys are still buying drinks before you know the girl will leave with you, then complaining that they will not leave with you. But hell, if you know she will leave with you then why buy any drinks at all? I guess I have never understood buying drinks for hookers anyway.

That's another major reason why I don't like mongering in Asia (besides not being as attracted to Asian women). That whole "buy a drink" culture that's woven into the scene. At least in places like Thailand and The Philippines. Sit there and buy drinks and everybody gets drunk and can't even fuck right LOL! Then you feel like shit the next morning. No thanks!

[Mr Enternational]

The other day I go into Badboy and I see a very good looking girl. 19 yrs old no baby very nice. I buy her a drink and she was a no go out only drinks girl. Fuckin Bullshit. I bet If I was Korean she would have gone out.

I don't understand why you guys are still buying drinks before you know the girl will leave with you, then complaining that they will not leave with you. But hell, if you know she will leave with you then why buy any drinks at all? I guess I have never understood buying drinks for hookers anyway.

[Goferring]

Guys, this is not rocket science: life has moved on from bars and everything you want is now online.

I too miss the 70's and 80's but life has moved on. Deal with it.

[Streetlooker]

I have gone to AC over many many years and have seen the consistent deterioration in both looks and service.

The standard now is a rubbish looker, tattooed, 54 Euros and short time. Not my scene. If others want that, not my business.

There are so many beautiful sweet girls outside the bar scene in most of SE Asia.

Just dress well, smile a lot, have a nice story-line, do not be pushy, smell good and they will come your way for curiosity and adventure.

Getting girls outside the bar scene takes time and effort that most guys don't have. The point is the prices here are equal to what they are back home so why come here anymore there is no value in it.

[Streetlooker]

I'm not asking for anything. I am describing the current reality.

I don't care if they want 3000 Pesos or 3, I'm not paying an overweight single mom with floppy tits, rotten teeth and bad tattoos for sex.

As a side note, 3000 PHP is 54 Euros, which is 4 more than you pay a pretty fit woman with no baby damage in Western Europe. Something is wrong here.

The quality of the product is not matching the price they are asking. If the bars want to have 3000-3500 peso bar fines then they need to get girls that are worth that price. They are putting 1000 peso street girls up on the stages now and trying to pass them off has models. Total bullshit how slim the pickings are now a days. The other day I go into Badboy and I see a very good looking girl. 19 yrs old no baby very nice. I buy her a drink and she was a no go out only drinks girl. Fuckin Bullshit. I bet If I was Korean she would have gone out. That's how the state of AC is now a days thou, its not going to get better either. Lucky for me I got some facebook regulars to keep me happy BUT getting new girls is becoming a disappointing adventure. Like Rick Rock said Plenty of fatties and uglies with sagging tits, chewed up bubble gum bellies and bad tattoos if that's you thing. BF for these girls need to be 1000 tops cause that's what they are worth street girl prices.

[Diglerni]

I'm not asking for anything. I am describing the current reality.

I don't care if they want 3000 Pesos or 3, I'm not paying an overweight single mom with floppy tits, rotten teeth and bad tattoos for sex.

As a side note, 3000 PHP is 54 Euros, which is 4 more than you pay a pretty fit woman with no baby damage in Western Europe. Something is wrong here.

3000 pesos should only be spent in LT. If you are paying 3 k for short time, well then you suck at negotiating. Stop giving these bars money for bar fines. Find the girl you like, offer her 3 k for LT after her shift. Trust me, she will most likely jump on that faster than you know. On 3500 bar fine they only make 40-50 percent. So they are only getting max 2 k to leave with you on bar fine. I worked this system at perimeter bars where they close at 9-11 and got great response every night. You may want to leave the option open to a few girls at different bars, but it worked every time for me. Girls get the full share, they get a better bed to sleep and and most decent dudes will buy them something to eat. Not the perfect system for everyone, but just my 2 cents.

2. What country in Western Europe has 50ST? All that I am reading on blogs is 100-150. With Coronavirus lurking my May trip might need to be altered to Europe (Eastern or Western). I'm way to white to go to South America alone.