Stupid shit in Medellin

[Elvis 2008]

Is this true jbbee? Did you really betray this mans confidence? That doesn't sound like what a stand up guy would do. I was looking forward to meeting you but now I'm not sure. I hope this isn't true.

LOL. You can't tell? Paulie says JJBee was mooching for hot water. JJBee goes on a rant about how Paulie does not understand the water system in Colombia, and then admits he had no hot water.

Paulie said JJBee lost his ass starting up a cam business and then JJBee says Paulie was wrong, but he admits to helping open up a cam business.

Vilainy made out his hotel to be the Taj Mahal. I asked Paulie the name of it, and he would not tell me, but JJBee the mouth just did. Rooms go for $40 a night on line and the hotel has the same ratings as La Quinta.

So that is what you have with those two, one guys aspiring to be in La Qunta and one who lives there and thinks he has it made.

But JJBee is right up your alley, Antony. A young, fit stud like you thinks there is no way I could get a better girl than you right? And hell, JJBee is the same way. The Mouth that meowed said no one here could date the Colombian elite after I had been doing so. Eh, but just blow that off. What could I know.

The reality is to get the best you have to do what it takes, and that means rejection, money sent down a pit, being led on, and worst of all, time wasted. To find the diamond in the rough, you have to go on a lot of shitty dates with some really shitty women and keep at it. That takes the humility to learn, the stamina to move forward, and the notion that some day the money you spent will pay off.

It is so easy to put a guy down shooting for the stars.

So why bother? You had best be like Viliany and JJbee and tell yourself that your world is as good as it gets. Maybe some day you too can make it and live full time in Viliany's version of the Medellin La Quinta.

[Paulie97]

Is this true jbbee? Did you really betray this mans confidence? That doesn't sound like what a stand up guy would do. I was looking forward to meeting you but now I'm not sure. I hope this isn't true.

That's exactly what he did. He was given permission to retell the story but without my name attached. He then got his feelings hurt during normal disagreements regarding public information, then in an ad hominem move (attack the messenger rather then the message) put the private info on blast here. Plus he tells the story inaccurately every time. And he admitted to doing this saying "I owe you nothing. " But he does owe me, his word and committment or the bro code if you so call it, but even more he owes himself to have some honor, to make shaving in the morning easier. He's been married I think it's three, five times? Ask the ex-wives how much honor the guy has. Go ahead and meet him if you like. He likely can point you toward some clubs or casas, but don't trust him. He's extremely talkative.

P.S. I danced with a girl next to a table in a La 70 night club. There's hookers working out of these places like in Lleras but fewer. I had a wing sitting next to my drink but that was insufficient. Yes I let my guard down, but this was back in 2017, before we all we so in tuned to how prevalent and widespread the drugging scams are. It was a one time lifetime event and never repeated. It's likewise largely irrelevant in these discussions other than as a hit back piece for slimeballs on the ropes in online discussions.

[Paulie97]

The whole idea that kidnappers will "have no reason to keep you" if they see your account empty in an ATM receipt as Villainy claimed is ludicrous. They may not want to keep a witness alive. Many are well aware that some will have replenish accounts or relatives to send ransom money. Thus Villainy's proposed sure ticket to safety is a joke. It matters not if the person who exposed his faulty reasoning had their drink spiked in a night club once in their already pretty long life. That's a deflection attempting to save face, ie. "What about you!" Here's the fallacy in play by the way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

So Villainy, it matters not if my drink was spiked while blind drunk 100 times in Medellin, your reasoning still hasn't gotten any better. And that would include your claim that FB girls who post pics from "high end resorts" have scored "wealthy clients" is beyond stupid as any working stiff can afford to take them for a few days to resorts in 3rd World countries. As someone escaping USA pricing, slumming in a hotel to make your retirement income work, you should know about these economic factors. But yea, all these points have been completely ignored, and will continue to be. And If one is aware and capable when kidnapping is first attempted it may be the best time to fight for your life, as many in law enforcement and military intelligence suggest, as more than likely it will be your last chance to.

P.S. I'll add that it's sad that JjBee62 doesn't feel you can handle your own battles, and feels the need to jump and try and rescue you. Had he minded his own business he'd have been left alone. But instead we had to rehash all the information he published about himself, no reliance on any information said backchannel and under a agreement to keep the info in confidence was needed. That's because he's a crybaby that must air out all his personal failings and life challenges in public. His pocket was picked by a webcam model for a year, stealing his labor, then she sent his drooping ass tail between his legs out of his rented room and down the highway. He's repeatedly had his pocket picked by strippers and girls he invited to his apartment. That's because he's so timid, doesn't want to insult them by taking his pants with him to the bathroom, thus reality comes home and he's robbed. He's also in poor health due to his past and current lifestyle, but I'll refer readers to my recents posts for details. It's a train wreck, and all the more apparent when he's met in person.

[Villainy]

.........That's because a pompous attitude is all that this Villiany twit has to show for a life's work. He's in a 3rd World hotel that can be booked online for about $30, while with any charm at all a much lower monthly rate could be negotiated. He can't afford an apartment, while anyone who calls him out he accuses of staying in "hostels," a venue I've never been to much less stayed in.

If not for the fact that JjBee62 has met you in Medellin, I would be convinced that you were an alter ego for Marquis (remember him) and had never been to Medellin. But I think I get you. When someone contradicts some of the stupid things you write you get your panties in a bunch. Let me see if I can help you with a dose of reality. You are finding the least expensive room in this hotel which apparently is posted at $30 a night. This hotel has rooms with two king beds and a view and a balcony or rooms that are internal that have no windows, no balcony and only a small space with a single double bed. Which do you think is charged out at $30 a night? No importa. BTW how much is $30 a night for 30 nights? I pay almost double that a night (which is less than I used to pay, only because the COP has weakened and is now at 4,825/ US dollar).

But say we use $30 a night x 30 nights (a normal month). Isn't that $900? When converted to COP (at at 4,825) isn't that $4,342,500? So, can you find a great apartment in one of the nicer areas of Laureles for that amount?

We're talking about Zuniga in Envigado or LOS Conquistadores or LOS Colores or Parque Laureles. Unfurnished 2 bedroom apartments in these Strata 4-5 areas are anywhere from $2 - $3. 5 million and furnished 2 bedroom apartments from $3 to $4. 5 million. So even at $30 a night which is slightly more than 1/2 of what I pay, you could rent a very nice apartment in one of the better areas in the city and most of these apartments would have other amenities in addition.

But of course, instead of grounding your comments in reality (where are you hiding your "integrity") it is easier to just make up your complaints.

BTW where do you stay when you finally save enough to visit Medellin? You said that you were not very secure financially. So where do you stay? I'm guessing a much cheaper place.

Funny. I was just in Villainy's room, December 26. My girlfriend's family had, among the other gifts, given me a 6 pack of Stella Artois and a bottle of Bailey's. Since he frequently has women over, and since Bailey's goes over well, and since he drinks better beer than the cheapest available which you drink, I regifted before we went to lunch. 2 king beds and a balcony, just as he said.

Anyone and everyone can go check what the room rate is, for the cheapest room and for the deluxe. The can check hotel amenities and look at room photos and read reviews. Then they can decide whether or not you are being honest, or just making up a story.

Ooops, I guess JjBee62 kind of confirmed your dishonesty. Tell me again Paulie, about integrity or better yet, tell me about it when you find yours.

[Huacho]

It just seems to me to strain credibility when someone says these two things simultaneously: 1) Centro girls and low end centro clubs are X, why, and Z. Then 2) I have never done the Centro scene. It just makes it really hard to take anyone's opinion about something they have never experience. Maybe that's just me. Here. Let me try it.

The termas in Brazil have much hotter women than the FKK clubs in Germany. Do people agree or disagree with that statement? Because I have never been to a terma or an FKK. But, that's not going to stop me from pontificating about what they are like.

[MiamiBoy1]

Well Victoria Secret should have bought someone better looking than Tyra Banks. And still nobody has explained why all the chicks in the strip club or fuck house cost the same if that is the case. In Thailand they have soapies where the chicks are divided by different prices. In my opinion the more expensive ones look no better than the cheaper ones. I asked the manager how it is decided and he said that it is by age, tit size, and if the chick has kids. (I guess Elvis' ten would be in the lowest category there.) he said nothing like well fool can't you see that the more expensive ones look better.

You have low standards and no taste in women, therefore for you women are more or less the same. You don't see any difference. Any venue has a mix of hot chicks, average or below average chicks, the difference is in the quantity and proportions. An average chick at La Isla is hotter than an average chick at Luna Lunera, and an average chick at Luna Lunera is hotter than an average chick at some low end brothel in El Centro. Every venue has its price point. And generally, the higher the price point, the better the talent. Scandallo has the hottest women in Brazil, and perhaps in LaTam, and guess what? The rates reflect that. High end escorts in Dubai get $1000+ per date, some of these chicks are ridiculously hot. Elvis was right about you, you fuck average or below average chicks for cheap and just don't know any better. And that's fine, if it floats your boat, but not admitting that women do differ in the looks, and command different rates depending on how hot and in demand they are, is just stupid. Wake the fuck up!

[JjBee62]

I planned on responding to your highly inaccurate claims about my health today. However, I've already exceeded my daily limit for your insanity. I might get around to it tomorrow.

In the meantime, tell us more about your integrity.

[JjBee62]

You also have to keep in mind the source here, JjBee62 who often pays a great deal but gets little if anything for it. Take for example the experience just noted, where beating off online he met a webcam girl, then sold his whole lot to run to Medellin and rent a room in her apartment. From there he spent his entire life savings, by his admission, plus gave a her one year of free labor running her camera. And he would have worked for free even longer if her manager didn't tell him to get his sniveling, effeminate ass out the door, which he promptly did, tail between the legs of his drooping posture.

And now, he thinks he has a "girlfriend" as he sends $ in response to all the hard luck stories while getting little for it. So consider the source. Right, wrong or indifference the JJBee62 ineptitude and hypocrisy are undeniable. That's very often the case with the resident "experts" here who are out to set new posting records. Most actually have little if any experience in Medellin.

And he's off. His medication.

You can't even make it 2 days without changing your story. Which at this point is definitely your story because nothing much of my story remains.

I see you are still spending an unhealthy amount of time fantasizing about me masturbating. You caught me about 10 years too late, or you could have paid a small fee and watched.

Again, never rented an apartment, except for the ones through Airbnb, never for more than 2 weeks. The apartment (first of 2) wasn't "her apartment. " It was an apartment she rented to use as a webcam studio. She lived elsewhere. The other person living there was a webcam model who remains a close friend.

Nobody "runs" a webcam model's cam. A monitor provides direction to the model, helps with translation and often handles chat and PMs. Everything with the cam is handled by the model, since the monitor isn't in the same room. Often they're not in the same building or even the same country. I worked as a monitor, but I wasn't a monitor for either the webcam model who had leased the apartment, or the webcam model who lived there.

Funny thing about my girlfriend. She never tells me hardluck stories. At least she never tells them and asks for money. For example, shortly before Christmas her grandmother was in the hospital for knee surgery. She never asked for anything. Well, she did ask for 1 thing. Since her car was in the shop (alternator, which she also forgot to ask me to pay for) and since I had a rental car, she asked if I would go pick up grandma from the hospital. I did. It was fun talking with 4 Colombian women from 3 generations, although the traffic sucked.

That sort of stuff happens all the time. Car breaks down, someone gets sick, pet gets sick. I hear about it, but I don't get asked to pay for it. That doesn't mean I don't pay for things, or give her money. Thanks to me she now has a rather impressive collection of sex toys and lingerie. I'm sure it seems like a lot of money to you, but you consider the price difference between Pilsen and Club Colombia an almost insurmountable financial hurdle.

Do I get very little out of it? I get enough, at least enough for me. Besides, she easily fits within my budget. Are you upset because you can only afford cheap hotels and the cheapest casas? It's not my fault you lack any marketable skills. After all, you completely freaked out over the price of a pizza. Or are you upset because I can remain sane long enough to develop and maintain relationships?

[JjBee62]

Is this true jbbee? Did you really betray this mans confidence? That doesn't sound like what a stand up guy would do. I was looking forward to meeting you but now I'm not sure. I hope this isn't true.

Calling him a man is a bit of a stretch.

As I've said too many times, Paulie came looking for me, told me his story, asked me to write his story and asked me to keep his name out of it.

Before I get to that, here's a side note. Just days before he got drugged I had posted my doubts about some of the druggings. They were always reported as happening to someone else. If a married man goes to Medellin for business and ends up spending $2000 on hookers, drugs and booze. "I was drugged and robbed" makes a convenient excuse and prevents an expensive divorce.

What I didn't consider was that many mongers are too embarrassed to report when bad things happen, so they either don't report it, or get someone else to do it.

On Paulie's previous visit we had hung out a few times. He had told me about a Venezuelan girl who he was trying to fuck. All his attempts failed and he spent a bit of money in his efforts. His last attempt involved buying pizza for her and all the Venezuelan street rats she hung out with. That failed too. He hit my Whatsapp complaining, none of the street rats thanked him for the pizza. He was furious. I asked him what he expected from a bunch of street rats? He acted like spending $10-$20 should have caused them to worship him.

I suppose I should have told him he was justified to kill them all for their failure to laud him for such an awesome act of charity, but I just didn't see the problem. If he had passed out at the bar they would have emptied his pockets. If they had found him on a dark street they would have robbed him. They'd probably never thanked anyone in their lives and I doubt cheap pizza was going to change things.

My response caused all that rage to be directed at me. Message after message, full of anger and insults. It went on for most of the day. Once the abuse stopped, I made a peace offering. I suggested that he was stressed because he was in a rut, drinking beer all day, going to the same cheap casas each day and the same cheap strip clubs at night. I made the offer to take him out of his rut, show him more of Medellin, without the constant diet of viagra and Pilsen. All expenses paid by me, just a day to relax. His response was "Fuck You. ".

About a month later I was arguing with a troll online and the guy says something about someone telling him I didn't know anything about Medellin and that nobody could stand to be around me. I didn't mention Paulie by name but told the guy only 1 person could have told him that. Paulie sent me a PM admitting he had tried to backstab me. He never apologized for his earlier psycho outburst, or for his passive-aggressive attack, but he was a bit more humble. We kept in contact through PM for a few weeks.

Then he showed up in Lleras and the next day told his story. I reported it as it was told and then all hell broke loose. My PMs were pounded by complaints that I had told the story wrong, over the minor detail of how the whiskey was bought. He had mentioned whiskey, he had mentioned shots. I assumed shots of whiskey were bought. I didn't consider someone buying a bottle.

He was still anonymous, it didn't really change the story, but he was furious, unloading abuse at me, until I finally got tired of it. I put him on ignore, posted his name and told everyone they could ask him about it.

So yes, I betrayed his confidence. That's just how I am. If you treat me like a friend, or just are indifferent to me, I'll keep your secrets. If you constantly attack me, pass out my private information to people with bad intentions towards me and both publicly and privately insult me, I no longer have any obligation to protect you.

I gave him 3 chances. That's 2 more than he deserved. Once I realized that Bipolar cycle was going to constantly repeat, I put myself outside the loop. Now he can only show his true face and it limits the number of people who will be subjected to his outbursts.

Of course it leaves him stuck with repeating the same story, although he never tells it the same, about my life 6 years ago. I suppose he thinks it will someday destroy me, but it backfires. Usually after he repeats it I'll get a few PMs asking about webcam or webcam models. And it always makes me happy to look back on one of the best years of my life.

I will close with a minor defense of Paulie. When he told me the story about being drugged, he was still foggy. There were lapses in his memory and he was trying to stitch together the bits he could remember. It's understandable that as he remembered more fragments he would change his story.

[Anthony2023]

This from the person who literally can't keep his mouth shut, whether in person or online, because that's all you have is your mouth. There were no drinking contests nor any drunkeness in public. The story was told to you in confidence and you betray that online when you got your feelings hurt because you are a scumbag without honor or personal integrity. You also refuse to tell the story as it was reported to you, making stuff along the way much of which is inconsistent. But I'm no longer going to engage with it as the story is in the open only because of betrayed confidence which is a dirtbag move.

Keep on drooping along, running your mouth to whomever will listen. Wink.

Is this true jbbee? Did you really betray this mans confidence? That doesn't sound like what a stand up guy would do. I was looking forward to meeting you but now I'm not sure. I hope this isn't true.

[JjBee62]

There's a lot that has been left out as of late, about the twit (you) who meets a sex worker online then moves to Colombia to rent a room from her. Within one year your entire life savings were blown while you were never paid a penny, by your admission for your work running her camera. In the aftermath you are crying to anyone who would listen about how mistreated you were, by her and her manager. They saw your effeminate ass coming while it took you an entire year to even muster up the balls to ask for some pay, of which you saw none. And that whole year, including the times I saw you you bragged away about how you were on the verge of making your fortune in the webcam business. Here we are talking about a sucker to the core, duped continually for a year, very different from a bad moment or a bad night.

But then we saw the last ditch Hail Mary, after crying to everyone online, when we tried to start your own studio but never hired anyone or were able to cut on hot water service. And he wants to talk about common sense or street smarts? Lolol That's just because he has to get involved some way, can't help himself.

Can't get over that obsession, can you?

You do understand that hot water service isn't "turned on. " Right? There isn't a system of hot water piping running under the streets of Medellin. The city doesn't turn off your hot water if you don't pay your hot water bill. It requires a hot water heater. In Colombia they mostly use in-line heaters, instead of the tank style common in the US. The apartment had no water heater, which is quite common in Medellin, especially in older buildings. One of the 3 bathrooms had a shower head heater, but it wasn't working. After a couple of weeks of cold showers, I bought a new shower head heater, installed it and had nice hot showers. I might have done it sooner, but it wasn't a priority.

This probably seems strange to you, but I don't usually see the point in telling everything that has happened to me over the past 6 years, every time I respond to something. If someone asks me where's a good place to stay in Medellin, I don't first tell them 2300 days worth of my life before suggesting a hotel. Should I? You seem upset that I'm not posting about an entire year of my life, a year that ended 5 years ago, on at least a weekly basis, but then you complain my posts are too long.

Since I'm here, let's correct at least one of your errors. I never started a webcam studio. An expat friend wanted to start one and asked me to work with him. That started well before the other events which you keep misrepresenting. You're right that I never hired anyone. I wasn't in charge of hiring. I did bring in 2 models, 3 if you include that one cammed with her boyfriend. But too little, too late.

Let's correct one other thing, for I think the 5th time. I never rented an apartment, from anyone. For 1 year, I paid no rent. I did pay utilities. Small price to pay for what amounted to a 1 year vacation. It's pretty funny that you now keep making the false claim that I rented an apartment, when initially you were calling me a freeloader because I wasn't paying rent. I guess that's just more of the Paulie integrity.

I enjoy every time you bring up this stuff. I look back at it all and smile. I met a bunch of great people and 1 psychopath, made a bunch of friends and have a lot of incredible memories.

Here's 1 that I was just reminded of on Valentine's Day. I didn't post about it, but I made a very short trip to Bogota over Valentine's Day, only in Bogota for 36 hours. Had a flight credit I needed to use with Delta. Delta flies to Bogota. Had my girlfriend meet me in Bogota and we spent 2 nights together.

On Valentine's Day we met up with my old roommate for lunch. We met up with her at her mother's house and her mother was thrilled to see me again. She showed me an item of mine I had forgotten at the apartment and had figured was gone forever. Then she asked me for a recipe.

The first time she came, along with her mother, to visit my roommate in Medellin, I cooked a simple casserole. It wasn't anything special, quick, easy and cheap to make. It wasn't even something I cooked for them, as I didn't know they were coming until I had started. I left it out to cool and headed out for a few hours. When I returned, it was all gone. They had eaten the whole thing.

A simple dish, made nearly 6 years ago, and she remembered it and wanted to know how to make it. How great is that? We had a great lunch, talked, laughed and just enjoyed ourselves for a few hours. Then it was time to go back to the hotel and give my girlfriend her Valentine's presents. If you want, I can upload the hotel room information. The price was more than $25 per day.

In the end, getting "duped" for a full year cost me around $25,000. That's right. I spent $25 k to take a 1 year vacation in Medellin, took 3 months of Spanish classes, got a new laptop, a new guitar, and new clothes. During that year I lost 60# and walked, on average, 30 miles per week. I learned my way around Poblado, Envigado, Itagui, El Centro and Laureles. I visited casas, strip clubs, the Mansion and dozens of restaurants. Let's not forget the dozens of women I fucked. As a result, if I ever want to take advantage of it, I have a free place to stay in Bogota and no shortage of people in Medellin I can hang out with (and none of them try to drug and rob me, although 1 would sell me weed if I wanted some). The only guy who you could find to hang out with you didn't care if he killed you.

So who really lost during that year? You got drugged and robbed and blew any chance of ever having a friend in Medellin and I walked away with dozens of friends, a ton of new experiences and a bunch of memories. The only downside is I picked up an obsessed nutcase who stalks my Facebook.

[JjBee62]

Who knows. We know you aren't using any excercise facilties as you told us you can't handle the hills in El Pablado. 24 hour reception is a selling point? Lolol Even your lowest end hotels have this. All we know for sure is that you are a proven liar, and the hotel you purport to stay at can be booked online for around 30 a night. We also know that you purported to negotiate a low monthly rate during Covid. You are likely in one of their more Spartan rooms. Now go steal some travel photos online. Wink.

It's a guy who works at a local shop I did business with, much more an associate than a friend. He may or may not have been involved. You also are using a story that was told in confidence and spilled here for revenge. I have never betrayed JJBee62's confidence, nor would I. How you feel about that is up to you, but it demonstrates that you aren't somone to be trusted and likely lack integrity in any sense.

Funny. I was just in Villainy's room, December 26. My girlfriend's family had, among the other gifts, given me a 6 pack of Stella Artois and a bottle of Bailey's. Since he frequently has women over, and since Bailey's goes over well, and since he drinks better beer than the cheapest available which you drink, I regifted before we went to lunch. 2 king beds and a balcony, just as he said.

He and I discussed his hotel about 3 years ago. A friend of mine was considering staying in Laureles and I asked Villainy about Dorado La 70. At the time he told me that there was a chica fee with the basic room, but no fee if you were in a deluxe room. If I remember correctly, he stated his price at that time as $90. However, at that time, the exchange rate was around 3600.

Anyone and everyone can go check what the room rate is, for the cheapest room and for the deluxe. The can check hotel amenities and look at room photos and read reviews. Then they can decide whether or not you are being honest, or just making up a story.

Now, if he was really needing to save money, he could be staying at Hotel 47 Street. The last time the aforementioned friend stayed there, he got a rate of $17 per night by dealing directly with the hotel.

Of course you would never betray anything I told you in confidence. I would never tell you anything in confidence, even before you went completely psychotic. You would however, just as an example, betray things which were only posted on my Facebook and not intended for ISG. Or, another example, send PMs to others revealing private information about me. Maybe it's time to climb down off your high horse.

[JjBee62]

You've of course never stayed there and are just pulling prices out of your ass, as you do here and in person. You spout off whatever sounds good to you at the time, accuracy is always optional. You are a slimeball without integrity, living out your karma each time you are rushed to the ER. I'm not going to name the hotel as I won't give out a member's full time address, but you can search Google and get in there for 30 to 35 a night, and certainly less with a walk in. And even less paying a monthly rate negotiated during Covid. The place isn't a dump but it's basic.

I did stay there. Mayof 2022, although just overnight. I posted about it here. Had to park in the street to check in and then took 2 trips driving around to find the parking garage entrance (it's on Carrera 69).

I'll post the name, as Villainy has posted it more than once, as have others. Hotel Dorado La 70. Attached is a photo of a quote for July 10 from Booking and a photo of my last stay. I also checked the price for tomorrow night, pretty cheap at $56, well above your make believe price. I was wrong about the price I paid. I paid over $100.

Now, what were you saying about integrity?

[Paulie97]

JJBee was given permission to retell the drugging story as long as my personal or online identity wasn't attached. He never told it accurately and each new version changes. But later he decides to betray that confidence and connect one of his versions of the story to my online identity here. He admitted here that he betrayed that confidence, so I'm not willing to give it much airtime here. However anyone is welcome to PM me here and I'll share what went down that night.

P.S. I think what initially got him so hot and bothered and seeking retribution was when he claimed that strata one and two girls don't thank gringos for favors, that they must be at least strata three to do that. I laughed my ass off as the pseudo-intellectual tried to impose some class warfare model grabbed off leftist news media, then blocked me in Whatapp for telling him how stupid the idea was. Anyone here ever have a poorer Colombian girl thank them for a tip or other favor? Damned it's about constant. But JJBee wants to play intellectual without putting in the time at university, and shouldn't complain when he occasionally steps on his dick. Yo.

[Mr Enternational]

money can definitely buy better looks.

Well Victoria Secret should have bought someone better looking than Tyra Banks. And still nobody has explained why all the chicks in the strip club or fuck house cost the same if that is the case. In Thailand they have soapies where the chicks are divided by different prices. In my opinion the more expensive ones look no better than the cheaper ones. I asked the manager how it is decided and he said that it is by age, tit size, and if the chick has kids. (I guess Elvis' ten would be in the lowest category there.) he said nothing like well fool can't you see that the more expensive ones look better.