Medellin Reports

[AcesAndEights]

I realize this is a bit off topic, but does anyone know if the casinos in Medellin have sports books? Or are there any other places to bet on sports in Medellin? Such as betting parlors or the like?

[Member #4244]

Oe, llaves, here is a little info on MDE as I have been here longer than planned (cancelled Lima trip due to a cold).

OK, there are some new places. One is Liquid Lounge. I went when the place was opening because I was in the area. It is a bit difficult to find, but it is in Barrio Colombia and the address on their Facebook page is correct. It is 20K COP to get in, that also entitles you to two drinks at the bar. Given that there was a not a SOUL inside when I arrived, I found it odd that the doorman tried to charge me to get in. It didn't take much persuading to get him to let me just check it out. I dig the interior, spacious sofas, bunch of TVs, Playstation stuff, etc. The upper floor is a VIP room with stripper poles and so forth. I will come back to check out some NFL action, I suppose. I am undecided on the place, I will have to go back when there are some actual people there. I did notice that they discouraged Colombian dudes from coming, but if you have a dollar in your pocket, they will take it I am sure.

There is a new place near Parque Lleras. I don't remember the name but it is the same owner as Club Maracaibo in El Centro. The place is decent enough. There was one stunning girl, a few above average and some average ones. That's a mix you'd find in the Centro for 80K a pop on a good night. Here they want 170K or 180K (cannot recall) for 40 minutes. The place closes at 1AM. I got there late and did not partake, only one girl would have interested me at that price.

The Centro spots are ehhhh at the moment. Went to the greasier ones (Hilton, Conejitas, etc) and they were pretty dead. Maracaibo seems to have a policy of NOT hiring lookers now LOL. Barra Ejecutiva is OK, they did lose Julieta to Fase II though, which is a big blow IMO.

She is there along with a number of hot girls. I went Fase II on a Sunday and liked the selection, not a lot of dudes either. I would recommend a girl there but I only remember her real name and not her stage name. Petite blonde with a great set of naturals, fun attitude although she is a little shy.

San Diego continues to fuck around for the minimum, they try and hit you 95K for half bottle of booze or some bullshit. I have a favorite there but we just hang around outside the place. I do not know too much about the quality of the girls at the moment, it was decent in February when I was last there. At this point, SD is actually pricier than Fase II, which is weird to me as I recall when SD was about 50% the price.

Massage spots, eh, lots of bleh, I found a new one at New Life but overall thought they had a pretty half assed selection. Lots of small places, nothing great to report from them though.

Street action is pretty dead, as dead as I have seen it. There are some gems to be had, but lots of junk, too.

[TweedleD]

A guy is hanging out in his favorite bar when he spots a fabulous babe.

Walking in on the arm of some ugly man.

He asks the bartender about her and is surprised to discover that she's a prostitute.

He watches her the rest of the night, amazed that someone so attractive could be available to him.

The next night he goes back to the bar, and sure enough she shows up again, only this time alone.

The guy gets up his nerve and approaches her."Is it true you're a prostitute?"

"Why, sure, big boy. What can I do for you?"

"Well, I dunno. What do you charge?"

"I get $100 just for a handjob. We can negotiate from there."

"$100! For a handjob? Are you nuts?"

"You see that Ferrari out there?" The guy looks out the front door,

And sure enough there's a shiny new Ferrari parked outside.

"I paid cash for that Ferrari with the money I made on handjobs.

"Trust me, it's worth it."

The guy mulls it over for a while, and decides what the hell.

He leaves with her, and gets the most unbelievable experience he's ever had.

This handjob was better than any complete sexual experience in his miserable life.

The next night he's back at the bar, waiting eagerly for her to show up.

When she does, he immediately approaches her."Last night was incredible!"

"Of course it was. Just wait till you try one of my blowjobs."

"How much is that?"

"$500"

"$500! C'mon, that's ridiculous!"

"You see that apartment building across the street?"

The guy looks out front at a 12 story apartment building.

"I paid cash for that building with the money I made on blowjobs. Trust me, it's worth it."

Based on the night before, the guy decides to go for it.

He leaves with her, and once again is not disappointed.

He nearly faints. Twice. The next night he can hardly contain himself until she shows up.

I'm hooked, you're the best! Tell me, what'll it cost me for some pussy?"

She motions for him to follow her outside.

She points down the street, where between the buildings he can see Manhattan.

"You see that island?"

"Aw, see'mon! You can't mean that!"

She nods her head."You bet. If I had a pussy, I'd own Manhattan!"

[Legal Tender]

Ok, let's cut the shit here. Working in the "sex industry" fucking blows. Real sex work is about showing up at a millionaire crackhead's house with a big box of Wet Ones, letting him bang the shit out of you for three days (even though he pulled a gun on you for sitting on the left-hand side of his bed) , and then leaving with $1, 900. No matter what the empowered academics in San Francisco pretend to believe, whoring—in any form—is hell, and the only reason women do it is to get money! If you want to try it out, be prepared to have nothing to show for years of suffering but a blown-out septum and some lumpy fake tits. It's like extreme waitressing. You make hundreds of dollars a night licking ass and then you immediately spend it on drugs just to feel normal again.

You don't describe the girls in Medellin that trade some loving for a little financial assistance. Most are young mothers or university students just trying to make their lives a little easier and hoping to find someone to show them a little compassion, care and interest. What you describe is almost unknown in the Colombia I know, except the rare exception of some narco trafficker's behavior.

And, as an aside, they're all sex workers at some level or another. Women provide sexual pleasure in order to obtain security. Now that can be paid by the hour or based on a lifetime commitment. There is no free sex, but to suggest what you do is just wrongheaded. Maybe you need to change your class of companions. Just say'in.

Only good energy, though.

[LocoGringo]

Ok, let's cut the shit here. Working in the "sex industry" fucking blows. Real sex work is about showing up at a millionaire crackhead's house with a big box of Wet Ones, letting him bang the shit out of you for three days (even though he pulled a gun on you for sitting on the left-hand side of his bed) , and then leaving with $1, 900. No matter what the empowered academics in San Francisco pretend to believe, whoring—in any form—is hell, and the only reason women do it is to get money! If you want to try it out, be prepared to have nothing to show for years of suffering but a blown-out septum and some lumpy fake tits. It's like extreme waitressing. You make hundreds of dollars a night licking ass and then you immediately spend it on drugs just to feel normal again.

Actually most professions, tesching, maids, ditch diggers would not show up if they didn't get paid. From reading this forum some guys like to be the licker instead of the lickee, to each his own. I have met some chicas that believe that it is ok and use it as an means to get to the next step. Wow, if men got paid, oh shit they would do it for nothing! Some chicas actually enjoy the sex, not all, but some. But, yes, if not for dinero they probably wouldn't show up. And wives, best get them a regala if you want to get Mr. Johnson well taked care of.

[Aussie Greg]

jtk,
will be in cape town from the 27th feb, till the 7th march mate, will do.
toured s.a. in 89 and 90, backpacked up to zambia and malawi.
i'm on another road trip to the valle while your here in medellin, get back late sept, before heading to australia for 5 months.

guys, just got back from doradal, hacienda napoli's (over 15 times now) and then onto puerto berrio, who ever wants info pm me.
also just got back (today) from manizales, chinchina, santa rosa de cabal (thermales) pereira, contargo, armenia (panaca) la victoria, la union (grape industry, both table and wine) in the valle, again any body wants info, pm me.

a. g.

quote=justthekid; 1464702]hey greg,

if you fancy hooking up to explore some of sa's hidden treasures while aus try to assemble some credibility at cricket, feel free to contact me. i live in cpt. it can be quite a fun place in sa summer.

i'm in medellin from 29 aug for 1 week. anybody fancy meeting up for some girly fun?[/quote]

[Dcfan77]

Good call guys. Whatever you do. Do not get sloppy drunk with any girl. She will take advantage of you in some way or another. I have found that in Medellin a lot of the girls in the downtown strip clubs like the white stuff. So be very careful.

Very good advice, but it is very restrictive. From my experience of a 17-year mongering activities, I allow the following:

1. If I really like a woman, I would sleep with her many, many times. I've done 40 times once, and close to that many times. The key is to always have several active favs lined up, so that you don't fall in love with one of them.

4. This is also way too restrictive, and limit how much fun you can have with a woman. I give all sort of general info about me, but never personal stuff like address, personal phone number, real name, etc.

5. Especially in places like Thailand, where the language is a barrier, it is difficult to agree on anything before hand. Plus you have the local customs that differ from one area to the next, in terms of services typically offered. Negotiating services sometimes take all the fun out of it.

[TweedleD]

Ok, let's cut the shit here. Working in the "sex industry" fucking blows. Real sex work is about showing up at a millionaire crackhead's house with a big box of Wet Ones, letting him bang the shit out of you for three days (even though he pulled a gun on you for sitting on the left-hand side of his bed) , and then leaving with $1, 900. No matter what the empowered academics in San Francisco pretend to believe, whoring—in any form—is hell, and the only reason women do it is to get money! If you want to try it out, be prepared to have nothing to show for years of suffering but a blown-out septum and some lumpy fake tits. It's like extreme waitressing. You make hundreds of dollars a night licking ass and then you immediately spend it on drugs just to feel normal again.

[Legal Tender]

one of the rules that jackson has expressly developed, is not commenting on safe sex practices except on the forum designed for that purpose. i've been mongering 22 years. we all have our own personal preferences, risk levels, etc. we all fall somewhere on a gray scale from the blackest of blacks to the whitest of whites. most of the world would criticize all of us. you choose to criticize me because i go further into the abyss than most of you (but surely not all). there sure as hell is no need to go down the road of criticizing me on that level. there's a reason jackson has prohibited that type of commentary. i'm surprised all of you don't know that.

nonetheless, thanks for the attempts at help. i'm back in the states now and no telling if i'll ever get to medellin again. i'm very unlikely to travel internationally except for work. i expect to be in cali in a few years, but otherwise who knows. loved my time in medellin, though, even if it didn't work out perfectly. loved it!

ten commandments,

1. never sleep with the same woman more than twice. or three times at the very most. even if she is irresistible and perfectly charming and wild at heart and in bed, never, ever pay her for sex two days in a row. by returning to the same woman repeatedly one is asking for trouble. requests for money beyond that agreed to. a request for additional money via the telling of sad and unhappy personal or family stories that may or may not be true. with each subsequent coupling with the same woman the likelihood or one or both parties becoming attached or having feelings called romantic love increase, and with it all of the undesirable consequences and boredom well known to all honest men who are married, were married or are in relationships.

9. never have sex with a girl that's ****, the appropriate age determined by the country in which you have sex with her. if in doubt about her age, walk away and find someone else.

10. always wear a condom for vaginal and anal sex. to not do so is not just to risk a disease that could be fatal, but also to rob you of one or more novel experiences while you are recovering from your stupidity.

twisted replies to questions about his having sex with high volume street walkers without a condom by (1) suggesting that safe sex issues are reserved by jackson for a thread on that topic, and (2), since he enjoys that behavior, it shouldn't be the subject of comment. maybe he's right, but i'm always curious what drives someone to such reckless behavior. possible pathology? but to each his own. contrast that with tweedle's advice to always us a condom.

more substantively, i can't believe most mongers want to follow tweedle's "ten commandments." i don't know an experienced monger that has gone to colombia for many years that hasn't developed more than p4p relationship with a girl or two. an "attachment" is not a bad thing. i dare say that at least on some level we all want intimacy on a level other than sex. being interested in a girl's life does not equate with marriage. besides, there is nothing better than the "i know you care about me" sex.

i agree about no sex with **** girls. but if you're a usa citizen or lawful resident, it is a federal felony to travel outside the usa and have sex with an individual under 18, nothwithstanding the age of consent in the other country.

it's interesting how different folks view their time with the beautiful women of medellin.

only good energy!

[JustTheKid]

Hey Greg,

If you fancy hooking up to explore some of SA's hidden treasures while Aus try to assemble some credibility at cricket, feel free to contact me. I live in CPT. It can be quite a fun place in SA summer.

I'm in Medellin from 29 Aug for 1 week. Anybody fancy meeting up for some girly fun?

Hi Mel,

Yep, the only issue for her was no buses on Monday and the land slide on the road to Bogota from Medellin.

Cricket, great, spent 3 months in India and Bangladesh early this year watching the Australian team get flogged, going to Australia for our summer to watch England play in Australia on home soil and then on the way back to Colombia, a month and a half in South Africa watching Australia get flogged again, and a few wildlife tours in Zim and Zambia. I'll need a holiday mate in St Maartin when I get back!

Medellin team! I conduct interviews nearly every night mate "its a girl team"!

A. G.

[Combo]

Threesomes can be fantastic. The key is you need to have them in a safe setting with girls that you know. But yes, you can run into trouble if you're not smart about them. I've had dozens of very good threesomes in Rio (and a few foursomes). In MDE, I've had a few good ones, though the Paisas don't tend to be as wild as the Garotas.

QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1464623]If we could make "smileys" here I'd put the guy clapping! Well written and well said. I enjoyed the part about tipping. As with any service a tip it a representation of quality of service and should only be given when earned and deserved. Sort of a mute point as you couldn't get a tip out of some of the cheap gringos here with a can of WD40!

There sub section "You are not a porn star so don't have a threesome. They will run game on you and you'll find yourself waking up in the morning shy of most if not all of your stuff. Happens all the time and the hustle is the same. Two girls, awesome time, porn star style, sleepy, wake up no more porn star or lap top, phone, passport, ect.[/QUOTE]

[SlamCity7777]

If we could make "smileys" here I'd put the guy clapping! Well written and well said. I enjoyed the part about tipping. As with any service a tip it a representation of quality of service and should only be given when earned and deserved. Sort of a mute point as you couldn't get a tip out of some of the cheap gringos here with a can of WD40!

There sub section "You are not a porn star so don't have a threesome. They will run game on you and you'll find yourself waking up in the morning shy of most if not all of your stuff. Happens all the time and the hustle is the same. Two girls, awesome time, porn star style, sleepy, wake up no more porn star or lap top, phone, passport, ect.

Ten Commandments,

1. Never sleep with the same woman more than twice. Or three times at the very most. Even if she is irresistible and perfectly charming and wild at heart and in bed, never, ever pay her for sex two days in a row. By returning to the same woman repeatedly one is asking for trouble. Requests for money beyond that agreed to. A request for additional money via the telling of sad and unhappy personal or family stories that may or may not be true. With each subsequent coupling with the same woman the likelihood or one or both parties becoming attached or having feelings called romantic love increase, and with it all of the undesirable consequences and boredom well known to all honest men who are married, were married or are in relationships.

Then too by having sex with the same woman more than twice or three times a dedicated and disciplined *monger deprives himself of difference, of diversity, of novelty, of the unexpected. Those very concepts that get to the core of exploiting to the fullest these brief lives we all have to thoroughly enjoy our most basic animal instincts...

[Combo]

very well-written. i have to say i agree with them all.

ten commandments,

1. never sleep with the same woman more than twice. or three times at the very most. even if she is irresistible and perfectly charming and wild at heart and in bed, never, ever pay her for sex two days in a row. by returning to the same woman repeatedly one is asking for trouble. requests for money beyond that agreed to. a request for additional money via the telling of sad and unhappy personal or family stories that may or may not be true. with each subsequent coupling with the same woman the likelihood or one or both parties becoming attached or having feelings called romantic love increase, and with it all of the undesirable consequences and boredom well known to all honest men who are married, were married or are in relationships.

then too by having sex with the same woman more than twice or three times a dedicated and disciplined *monger deprives himself of difference, of diversity, of novelty, of the unexpected. those very concepts that get to the core of exploiting to the fullest these brief lives we all have to thoroughly enjoy our most basic animal instincts.

2. give every working girl the respect you give to any person with whom you can imagine having a loving relationship of indefinite duration. you are buying a service, and in so doing are asking that the working girl will be honest in delivering what is promised. she may not be honest, and many do not deliver on their promises; nevertheless, there is no reason to treat an unknown one-timer shabbily simply because other working girls you have been with have not performed as promised or implied.

3. commandment two notwithstanding, work from the assumption that everything a working girl tells you is a lie, and, more to the point, that her behavior in bed or what she tells you will not be a true picture of how she in fact feels toward you. her job is to create an illusion, to bring you to climax, and, in most parts of the world and most of the time, to get rid of you as soon as possible. those who are genuinely good at what they do are able to make the difference between illusion and reality seem trivial. once the thinking summarized here in commandment three is integrated into the mental software of a true and disciplined *monger there will be few disappoints or regrets.

4. do not give any working girl honest information about who you are or what you do or where you are from, and most certainly do not give her a telephone number, mailing address or e-mail address. tell her whatever will most likely get her to meet your needs. if the first commandment is followed faithfully, there is absolutely no need for the woman to have any legitimate or honest personal information about you. giving her such information will, as often as not, work against your best interest, which is first and foremost about meeting your sexual and novelty needs-real, fantastical, and otherwise.

5. before agreeing to go with a working girl or paying a bar fine or its equivalent (as in thailand and the philippines) , make it perfectly clear what you expect in the way of services. do not leave anything implied or up to her imagination, for to do so is assuredly a recipe for disappointment, misunderstanding, and unforeseeable and unpredictable consequences. there is, admittedly, a tradeoff here with the primary concern with surprise, and thus this commandment is one to be broken as whim and circumstance dictate.

6. do not take drugs or have too much alcohol when whoring because not only will enjoyment be sacrificed, but also you will not be able to respond appropriately and to best advantage to events that cannot be predicted and come at unexpected moments. furthermore, too much alcohol often results in a lack of caution: failure to note that the woman is sick or has a suspicious sore. or, alas, losing hold of one's faculties to such an extent that one goes bareback for vaginal or anal sex.

7. after you get to the room, if you see, or smell, or sense that something is not right (the working girl's on drugs, she seems diseased, it looks like you've walked into a setup to rob you, she's not going to come through on her principal promises) , then cut your losses. get rid of her right away; don't commit the concorde fallacy and throw more time and money at an ill-conceived investment. tell her you're not feeling well or have bad stomach cramps or are going to throw up, whatever. then leave, or ask her to leave right away. if necessary to avoid a scene or something not easily controlled, give the working girl a small amount of money to get rid of her.

8. if a working girl comes through on all of her promises, and proves to be good indeed, show your appreciation. tip her, and honestly compliment her on her skills. you are not only making her feel good about herself, but you are almost guaranteeing that the next guy she's with will be more than happy with what he asked and paid for. that next guy could be you returning for the second and last time.

9. never have sex with a girl that's ****, the appropriate age determined by the country in which you have sex with her. if in doubt about her age, walk away and find someone else.

10. always wear a condom for vaginal and anal sex. to not do so is not just to risk a disease that could be fatal, but also to rob you of one or more novel experiences while you are recovering from your stupidity.

[Lefeu]

Ten Commandments,

1. Never sleep with the same woman more than twice. Or three times at the very most.

4. Do not give any working girl honest information about who you are or what you do or where you are from,

5. Before agreeing to go with a working girl or paying a bar fine or its equivalent (as in Thailand and the Philippines) , make it perfectly clear what you expect in the way of services.

Very good advice, but it is very restrictive. From my experience of a 17-year mongering activities, I allow the following:

1. If I really like a woman, I would sleep with her many, many times. I've done 40 times once, and close to that many times. The key is to always have several active favs lined up, so that you don't fall in love with one of them.

4. This is also way too restrictive, and limit how much fun you can have with a woman. I give all sort of general info about me, but never personal stuff like address, personal phone number, real name, etc.

5. Especially in places like Thailand, where the language is a barrier, it is difficult to agree on anything before hand. Plus you have the local customs that differ from one area to the next, in terms of services typically offered. Negotiating services sometimes take all the fun out of it.

[TweedleD]

i like what you say, i'd go down that rabbit hole, i got nothin better to do.

ten commandments,

1. never sleep with the same woman more than twice. or three times at the very most. even if she is irresistible and perfectly charming and wild at heart and in bed, never, ever pay her for sex two days in a row. by returning to the same woman repeatedly one is asking for trouble. requests for money beyond that agreed to. a request for additional money via the telling of sad and unhappy personal or family stories that may or may not be true. with each subsequent coupling with the same woman the likelihood or one or both parties becoming attached or having feelings called romantic love increase, and with it all of the undesirable consequences and boredom well known to all honest men who are married, were married or are in relationships.

then too by having sex with the same woman more than twice or three times a dedicated and disciplined *****monger deprives himself of difference, of diversity, of novelty, of the unexpected. those very concepts that get to the core of exploiting to the fullest these brief lives we all have to thoroughly enjoy our most basic animal instincts.

2. give every working girl the respect you give to any person with whom you can imagine having a loving relationship of indefinite duration. you are buying a service, and in so doing are asking that the working girl will be honest in delivering what is promised. she may not be honest, and many do not deliver on their promises; nevertheless, there is no reason to treat an unknown one-timer shabbily simply because other working girls you have been with have not performed as promised or implied.

3. commandment two notwithstanding, work from the assumption that everything a working girl tells you is a lie, and, more to the point, that her behavior in bed or what she tells you will not be a true picture of how she in fact feels toward you. her job is to create an illusion, to bring you to climax, and, in most parts of the world and most of the time, to get rid of you as soon as possible. those who are genuinely good at what they do are able to make the difference between illusion and reality seem trivial. once the thinking summarized here in commandment three is integrated into the mental software of a true and disciplined *****monger there will be few disappoints or regrets.

4. do not give any working girl honest information about who you are or what you do or where you are from, and most certainly do not give her a telephone number, mailing address or e-mail address. tell her whatever will most likely get her to meet your needs. if the first commandment is followed faithfully, there is absolutely no need for the woman to have any legitimate or honest personal information about you. giving her such information will, as often as not, work against your best interest, which is first and foremost about meeting your sexual and novelty needs-real, fantastical, and otherwise.

5. before agreeing to go with a working girl or paying a bar fine or its equivalent (as in thailand and the philippines) , make it perfectly clear what you expect in the way of services. do not leave anything implied or up to her imagination, for to do so is assuredly a recipe for disappointment, misunderstanding, and unforeseeable and unpredictable consequences. there is, admittedly, a tradeoff here with the primary concern with surprise, and thus this commandment is one to be broken as whim and circumstance dictate.

6. do not take drugs or have too much alcohol when whoring because not only will enjoyment be sacrificed, but also you will not be able to respond appropriately and to best advantage to events that cannot be predicted and come at unexpected moments. furthermore, too much alcohol often results in a lack of caution: failure to note that the woman is sick or has a suspicious sore. or, alas, losing hold of one's faculties to such an extent that one goes bareback for vaginal or anal sex.

7. after you get to the room, if you see, or smell, or sense that something is not right (the working girl's on drugs, she seems diseased, it looks like you've walked into a setup to rob you, she's not going to come through on her principal promises) , then cut your losses. get rid of her right away; don't commit the concorde fallacy and throw more time and money at an ill-conceived investment. tell her you're not feeling well or have bad stomach cramps or are going to throw up, whatever. then leave, or ask her to leave right away. if necessary to avoid a scene or something not easily controlled, give the working girl a small amount of money to get rid of her.

8. if a working girl comes through on all of her promises, and proves to be good indeed, show your appreciation. tip her, and honestly compliment her on her skills. you are not only making her feel good about herself, but you are almost guaranteeing that the next guy she's with will be more than happy with what he asked and paid for. that next guy could be you returning for the second and last time.

9. never have sex with a girl that's ****, the appropriate age determined by the country in which you have sex with her. if in doubt about her age, walk away and find someone else.

10. always wear a condom for vaginal and anal sex. to not do so is not just to risk a disease that could be fatal, but also to rob you of one or more novel experiences while you are recovering from your stupidity.