Seeking Arrangements

[NeilGeorge]

Just don't say anything. Real girls are much too busy to pester you. If she texts you don't answer. And they are millennials or gen z so they will never double text. Then text them when you are ready and if they need cash or like you they will forget you never answered.

Women usually say they lost their phone and had to get a new one, or they dropped their phone in the toilet and needed a new one, when they have left their current flame and he flamed out, and they need money!

[The Cane]

I always smile when I see an SA girl advertising for a SD in his 20's or 30's. I mean, it's almost comical because us seasoned OGs know that most men in their 20's and 30's haven't achieved the kind of financial success where they can "spoil" (throw money at) girls. I would say it takes most men until they get into their 40's to 50's before they can really establish themselves financially (if in fact they ever get there). So when these babies do this (seek young daddies), they are setting themselves up for a lot of disappoint and failure (with lots of fakes, flakes, and wannabes) right off the bat by not being realistic in their. Now, that's not to say that there aren't any men in their 20's and 30's who are ready for real sugaring, but they would be the exception rather than the rule. Indeed, I've looked at a few studies on this, and the typical successful SD is in his 50's. Older men are the ones who have the money and disposable income. Not the younger men in their 20's and 30's.

[Steve 9696]

Just wondering the best thing to say to a woman from SA when you want a break. Really to try some other pussy because the sex is no good, boring, or some other problem they would not want to hear.

Sometimes I text them that I am short of money at the time. But expecting a big check to come in the next week. Or that I owe money in taxes and have to get that paid off immediately.

Other times I am more truthful and tell them I don't like it that they are aggressive about money, and I will get back to them when I am ready and interested.

Other ideas how to put them off temporarily and possibly start again after a few weeks?

Just don't say anything. Real girls are much too busy to pester you. If she texts you don't answer. And they are millennials or gen z so they will never double text. Then text them when you are ready and if they need cash or like you they will forget you never answered.

[NeilGeorge]

Just wondering the best thing to say to a woman from SA when you want a break. Really to try some other pussy because the sex is no good, boring, or some other problem they would not want to hear.

Sometimes I text them that I am short of money at the time. But expecting a big check to come in the next week. Or that I owe money in taxes and have to get that paid off immediately.

Other times I am more truthful and tell them I don't like it that they are aggressive about money, and I will get back to them when I am ready and interested.

Other ideas how to put them off temporarily and possibly start again after a few weeks?

[NeilGeorge]

Every day I get like 5 favorites or reach outs from girls in Venezuela, and also quite a bit from Colombia.

Anyone know what the deal is? Is phishing American men like a cottage industry there? There's literally nothing in my profile that suggests I'm interested in meeting anyone from Venezuela.

Yes. That is why I am taking a break from SA. Its not worth the aggravation. I have already built up my stable of available women who like to fuk.

[GoingDumb]

Trying seeking in bcn but thinking about sticking with pros. As someone else said, girls seem flaky or are straight to business. After I asked one about getting a drink she told me romantic or sexual dates were ok too LOL. One I had plans with cancelled, another asked if I was into any drugs. I blocked a promising looking one who seemed too eager to meet, asking what hotel I was at and her seeking profile is now deactivated. Felt like a scam.

[LshRoomer]

Every day I get like 5 favorites or reach outs from girls in Venezuela, and also quite a bit from Colombia.

Anyone know what the deal is? Is phishing American men like a cottage industry there? There's literally nothing in my profile that suggests I'm interested in meeting anyone from Venezuela.

In my experience, if your location is not the same as theirs, I would classify it as SPAM and ignore. I have had SBs reach out to me and initiate the conversation, but each time that has happened, we have shared the same location. And the conversation starter is a bit on the shy side like you would expect from a non pro approaching a strange guy on a site that some chicks consider seedy at times. Just saying.

I'm actually about to gear up for a trip in the next couple weeks, so I'll be back in the Seeking world. I have a girl from Venezuela that I chatted with in Madrid and she literally just reached out like 2 days ago. I didn't keep the oven warm with her because I didn't know when I would be in Madrid again (and I hate to be considered a bullshitter). In the case of this chick, she hit me on Whatsapp, which I wouldn't consider SPAM, even though we have never met in person. We have chatted quite a bit, but last time I was in Madrid, Maria sucked up all my time (not a complaint), so I couldn't experience other SBs. This time around, I only told her about 2 days that I'll be in town, in order to have a bit of space. She is hot AF and intoxicating in the sheets, but I have more exploration to do (call me greedy). If not, I would suffer the same fate as before and not be able to sample the buffet.

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[Elvis 2008]

Every day I get like 5 favorites or reach outs from girls in Venezuela, and also quite a bit from Colombia.

Anyone know what the deal is? Is phishing American men like a cottage industry there? There's literally nothing in my profile that suggests I'm interested in meeting anyone from Venezuela.

They are looking for you to send them money for nothing. Period. An American cannot go last I checked and even if you did, you would see prices are higher than they are for the Vennies in Colombia. If you are interested in Vennies, then head there. And Mexico and Panama have quite a few as well but they cost more. For whatever reason, the best looking Vennies I have ever seen did not live in Venezuela. I know guys are thinking prices are cheap there, but they are not. Even if you find one you liked and flew her out, airline ticket prices to and from Venezuela are ridiculous.

[Dj Tan]

Every day I get like 5 favorites or reach outs from girls in Venezuela, and also quite a bit from Colombia.

Anyone know what the deal is? Is phishing American men like a cottage industry there? There's literally nothing in my profile that suggests I'm interested in meeting anyone from Venezuela.

I have a feeling those Venezuelan girls are bot scammers.

Always be careful when girls fave you first.

[AmericanPi]

Every day I get like 5 favorites or reach outs from girls in Venezuela, and also quite a bit from Colombia.

Anyone know what the deal is? Is phishing American men like a cottage industry there? There's literally nothing in my profile that suggests I'm interested in meeting anyone from Venezuela.

[Elvis 2008]

She has had sex with her BF only few times before she met me. She thought sex lasts only few minutes. When we went at it for 20/30 minutes of pounding, she had many orgasms. And at some point started to beg me for more. She told me she never thought sex can be so good.

One of the issues with seeing strippers and hookers is when you hear a woman say something like this, the instant reaction is that they are saying this to get more money. With this GFEfan, I have to say that I was with a married SB whose husband would get off in under a minute and she hated having sex with him. As I have gotten older, I can control when I cum so yeah, she would get on top and ride and ride. The married SB also had been recently raped and was fearful of being with anyone other than me and hubby. One time before we met, she told me that she had a dream about my dick. I was skeptical but then I asked myself, "Why would she lie? It is not like I am going to pay her more. ".

There were many times in a strip club a woman would claim to cum when she gave me a lap dance. Again, I was skeptical. Thing is they had that certain smell when they cum and with some women, it would have been an Academy Award performance if they had not. Still, what convinced me it was true was when the women refused to cum (I don't want to squirt) or got scared if I said I wanted to meet them outside of the club. They had fear was succumbing to having sex for money or with a customer which was against the stripper code.

Still, with regards to seeking unlike with hookers or strippers, I cannot recall ever having a woman exaggerate her sexual pleasure. Maybe it happened once, and I do not remember it, but I cannot recall a woman faking it or even thinking she was faking it.

Thing is if you are with someone long term you are going to figure it out. She will make getting money more the priority and pleasing you less. Looking back on things, I think I way underestimated how much pleasure the women were getting with sex and if your girl is faking it, and I doubt she is, then you will see it over time.

BTW, the average sex act is 9 minutes long, and 30% of the time guys have sex, they finish in under 3 minutes so what your gal said definitely could be true.

[AmericanPi]

I actually specifically try to get girls to sleep over in order to get more bang for my buck (pun very intended).

But I always mind the valuables.

In a hotel I use the safe. If there is no safe I always find a hiding place for cash and passport and electronics that is not the obvious ones (nightstand, etc). I often place it in high up places where even I need to drag a chair over to get to it. Think on top of the tallest furniture in the room.

I spent a weekend with a SA woman and her friend at a hotel and then a AirBnB outside of the city. I had seen her once alone and 2 times with her friend before on an earlier trip. My advice is don't spend a night with someone you haven't seen at least twice and even then, I would be very careful with who I choose and make sure you get a good vibe. The smart women will realize they have much more to gain in the long term than a quick robbery. Keep your valuables in a safe. If there's none, at least hide your passport.

During that weekend, I made all the reservations, set up the transportation, and got copies of their IDs.

I'm actually going on another getaway weekend in February with someone I met last month. I already have all her info.

[Voodoo Jones]

Have any of you had bad experiences with girls who stay overnight? I've been scammed before and am paranoid a girl would take my watch, computer, phone, passport, etc when I was sleeping. I had a good date with a girl in Paris who then stayed overnight but I was worried she'the run off with my bag or something.

I spent a weekend with a SA woman and her friend at a hotel and then a AirBnB outside of the city. I had seen her once alone and 2 times with her friend before on an earlier trip. My advice is don't spend a night with someone you haven't seen at least twice and even then, I would be very careful with who I choose and make sure you get a good vibe. The smart women will realize they have much more to gain in the long term than a quick robbery. Keep your valuables in a safe. If there's none, at least hide your passport.

During that weekend, I made all the reservations, set up the transportation, and got copies of their IDs.

I'm actually going on another getaway weekend in February with someone I met last month. I already have all her info.

[GoingDumb]

Have any of you had bad experiences with girls who stay overnight? I've been scammed before and am paranoid a girl would take my watch, computer, phone, passport, etc when I was sleeping. I had a good date with a girl in Paris who then stayed overnight but I was worried she'the run off with my bag or something.

[Lusine99]

I used SA in London and Barcelona znd France successfully. A few times I met with a girl for dinner and intimacy just flowed. No talk of price I just took them on trips or helped with rent. One girl was a regular thing. Great girl 300 GBP for 4 hours drinking etc. Over months. I met a girl who was just on there for experiences not money. Far too gorgeous for words. Ended up living together for 15 months. She went insane but that's besides the point. Since its been very money orientated. A few in Barcelona beautiful, but straight up swx workers. But ask for 250 to 300 euros vs 500 plus pounds in London. Met a few for dinner, maybe 4, who didn't look like their pictures so politely said we shall meet up again perhaps. Was scammed at the beginning for gas money, visas etc. And learned my lesson. A lot are very to the point younger ones can be a bit beguiled an unsure what they want. Some flexible. Be very polite or they can easily get you permanently banned. Expect to send out 100 messages and get 20 to 30 responses since they get so many messages. It's quick to decipher who is pleasant and not and quickly switch to WhatsApp. Telegram as mentioned is mostly for girls who rope you in and then only want to sell pics etc. I've had some really good experiences mostly. Just beware of the ones asking for money ranging from 150 to 500 just for a coffee or dinner. I expect they take it and never intend to see you again. Likewise there are many girls who ask you to send them money or suchlike to see "if you are real". Lots of scammers. Lots of genuine SBs looking for a 2 k a month allowance and to be treated like a princess, alot of undecided thrillseekers, and many working girls. Its addictive and exciting for sure. One thing I did notice is that in Barcelona a large proportion are very real, very beautiful girls offering straight up sex services in comparison to London where the girls can choose for thousands of men offering them the world.

You can tell alot from a bio. The biggest hurdle is getting a response, so I tend to follow up and then finally do.

I tried secret benefits, but much fewer SBs an extortionate price structure and mostly bots.