General Reports

[Kerrstar]

He asked to see my tickets showing I was leaving. I did not have any. He told me to go to the internet cafe there and buy one. I argued politely, that buying a ticket that way would be expensive as I would not be able to price shop in a short amount of time. I am leaving to go back to usa and tickets prices are all over the place.

Be aware that a lot of countries won't let you in without a return ticket. Technically the airlines are not supposed to let you board if you do not have a return ticket or resident visa or the like. This is not rigidly enforced but I wouldn't want to risk doing it too often. You could get stuck if you come back to somewhere like Thailand and are refused entry as the airline would be responsible to return you to the country you just left. If you don't have a visa for that country, assuming you cannot get one on arrival, you might end up spending some time at an airport try to figure out what to do next.

[Horatio]

I have been in Thailand 5 months. I left once to Malaysia on a visa run. I kept all my visas up to date. I left Thailand a few days before the last visa expired. I went to Cambodia, with the plan to go to Vientiane Laos after leaving there. I changed my mind about Laos and did not enjoy Cambodia so headed back to Thailand.

Going through the reentry line I was pulled aside by the man who stamps the reentry visa and sent to talk to another guy. He seemed concerned that I had been in Thailand for 5 months and wanted to know when I was leaving. I told him I would leave within the month and pointed out I had followed all the visa rules previously. He asked to see my tickets showing I was leaving. I did not have any. He told me to go to the internet cafe there and buy one. I argued politely, that buying a ticket that way would be expensive as I would not be able to price shop in a short amount of time. I am leaving to go back to usa and tickets prices are all over the place.

He had asked me to show him money that I could afford to stay in thailand. I only had $200 USD and 500 thai baht, but showed him debit cards and told him they had $3000 and $4000 on them. Eventually he stamped my visa giving me another month. I was with him 15 to 30 minutes, or so it seemed.

Some possible things that might have made this easier for me are -1. To have had some kind of exit ticket, maybe the plane ticket or maybe just some cheap bus ticket out of thailand. And- 2. Maybe to have had more money with me or an ATM receipt that showed my balance. Ultimately though I got through with a bit of begging and politeness. The worst thing that seemed possible going through this would have been me having to buy tickets at the internet cafe there, so the worst would not have been a catastrophe.

I post this so others can see what might happen when traveling here. Things worked out okay for me, but it was stressful. Maybe others here can point out how I could have faired better. Anyway this is just my experience for what it's worth.

[Haven123]

Sorry to switch to girls. Can only talk about what I have experienced. I have no clue how often Thai men change shirts. Have occasionally met a stinky taxi driver, but not that often.

In the discos, clubs and bars, the absolute worst thing, at least for me, is the smell of friggin cigarette smoke. All over my clothes, and anywhere where you have hair.

This is in addition to guys who don't showier, wash their hair daily, stink from sweat, body odors from certain foods they eat, and shirts not washed after every day of wear.

The first thing I do, after I get back at night in Pattaya (or back home in the US) is shower and put all of clothes in the washer or in a bag to drop off at the laundry (when in Pattaya). And then I use deodorant before I go to bed. LOL. Guys are the worst, compared to girls. Most of them, most of the time have incredibly poor hygiene. Unfortunately, that's who each of us going after when we take any girl who has already been with any guy that day (besides other issues). Part of the cost of having fun in establishments with guys who have limited $, or will not spend $ on deodorants or fresh clothes. It is what it is.

[Zman429]

Happy new year everybody. Why'all need to get out and get laid and create something interesting to talk about. LOL.

[EihTooms]

This is a very interesting topic to me. I do notice the "old person" smell on some others, even my mother for example. It would be very nave to think my own skin smells perfect even if I cannot notice anything. I bet young Thai girls can detect old skin odour. Thai girls are very keen to clean or scrub off the "Khee Khlai" (dead skin), which seems unnatural, and they probably don't need to.

I particularly notice that older people have much more problems with bad breath compared to young people. Children rarely seem to have bad breath, teenagers not much, and so on.

Dead skin cells will shed on their own over time, of course. And I think more of them shed from older skin than younger skin, which can create its own problems. Have you ever gone into an old person's apartment and been hit with that odd "old person smell"? Very often it is actually all of their dead skin cells sprinkled everywhere; on the floor, in the rugs, in the bed sheets, the furniture, throw pillows, clothing, etc. LOL. Quite an unappetizing thought, right? That is why it is important for us older people to scrub off that stuff and send it down the shower drain on a regular basis before it winds up in so many corners of the room and fabrics that normal weekly housecleaning doesn't do the job.

[Goatscrot]

While we're on the subject of cleanliness and body odor, I am not sure if anyone has mentioned exfoliating away the dead skin cells once or twice a week in the shower. This is especially good for men and women over the age of 50 or so. Some say the old skin cells still clinging to the surface of your skin contributes to that "old person smell" that is offensive to virtually everyone.

Pick up a couple of those rough surface gloves, a dollar or two I guess, in Boots, Watson's or almost any drugstore along with a granular scrub foam or lotion. Doesn't have to be an expensive brand as the scrubbing action with the gloves is what matters most I think. Squeeze out a dab about the size of a grape onto one gloved hand, rub it into a foam with the other gloved hand and get to work scrubbing on everything other than your dick and balls from around your ankles, up your legs, butt, shoulders, arms, hands, neck, ears and the less sensitive parts of the face. The whole thing shouldn't take more than an extra minute or two in the shower. Squeeze and rinse out the excess foam from the gloves and leave them nearby for the next time. Twice a week is probably plenty to keep your skin fresh and free of any associated odor.

If you have never done it before and are over the age of 50, the first time might produce a revolting swirl of brown gunk going down the drain underfoot. That was clinging to the surface of your body! And there is no reason to believe it smelled just fine! The next couple of times there will be less of that but those dead skin cells are still being scrubbed away. Just add this 2 minute procedure to your shower once or twice week.

Absolutely. I have always been fastidious about grooming, but now in my early 50's am even more so. Keep the nether regions, chest, and back shaved, pits trimmed, exfoliate the body, et al. Very important.

[Syzygies]

While we're on the subject of cleanliness and body odor, I am not sure if anyone has mentioned exfoliating away the dead skin cells once or twice a week in the shower. This is especially good for men and women over the age of 50 or so. Some say the old skin cells still clinging to the surface of your skin contributes to that "old person smell" that is offensive to virtually everyone.

This is a very interesting topic to me. I do notice the "old person" smell on some others, even my mother for example. It would be very naïve to think my own skin smells perfect even if I cannot notice anything. I bet young Thai girls can detect old skin odour. Thai girls are very keen to clean or scrub off the "Khee Khlai" (dead skin), which seems unnatural, and they probably don't need to.

I particularly notice that older people have much more problems with bad breath compared to young people. Children rarely seem to have bad breath, teenagers not much, and so on.

[Syzygies]

While we're on the subject of cleanliness and body odor, I am not sure if anyone has mentioned exfoliating away the dead skin cells once or twice a week in the shower. This is especially good for men and women over the age of 50 or so. Some say the old skin cells still clinging to the surface of your skin contributes to that "old person smell" that is offensive to virtually everyone.

This is a very interesting topic to me. I do notice the "old person" smell on some others, even my mother for example. It would be very naïve to think my own skin smells perfect even if I cannot notice anything. I bet young Thai girls can detect old skin odour. Thai girls are very keen to clean or scrub off the "Khee Khlai" (dead skin), which seems unnatural.

I particularly notice that older people have much more problems with bad breath compared to young people. Children rarely seem to have bad breath, teenagers not much, and so on.

[Syzygies]

The post was about guys. Not about the girls body odor (which I agree is not an issue generally) or using shirts for multiple days without washing.

Sorry to switch to girls. Can only talk about what I have experienced. I have no clue how often Thai men change shirts. Have occasionally met a stinky taxi driver, but not that often.

[Penguin69]

While we're on the subject of cleanliness and body odor, I am not sure if anyone has mentioned exfoliating away the dead skin cells once or twice a week in the shower. This is especially good for men and women over the age of 50 or so. Some say the old skin cells still clinging to the surface of your skin contributes to that "old person smell" that is offensive to virtually everyone.

Pick up a couple of those rough surface gloves, a dollar or two I guess, in Boots, Watson's or almost any drugstore along with a granular scrub foam or lotion. Doesn't have to be an expensive brand as the scrubbing action with the gloves is what matters most I think. Squeeze out a dab about the size of a grape onto one gloved hand, rub it into a foam with the other gloved hand and get to work scrubbing on everything other than your dick and balls from around your ankles, up your legs, butt, shoulders, arms, hands, neck, ears and the less sensitive parts of the face. The whole thing shouldn't take more than an extra minute or two in the shower. Squeeze and rinse out the excess foam from the gloves and leave them nearby for the next time. Twice a week is probably plenty to keep your skin fresh and free of any associated odor.

If you have never done it before and are over the age of 50, the first time might produce a revolting swirl of brown gunk going down the drain underfoot. That was clinging to the surface of your body! And there is no reason to believe it smelled just fine! The next couple of times there will be less of that but those dead skin cells are still being scrubbed away. Just add this 2 minute procedure to your shower once or twice week.

Good to hear these simple tips. Cheers for raising it.

[EihTooms]

While we're on the subject of cleanliness and body odor, I am not sure if anyone has mentioned exfoliating away the dead skin cells once or twice a week in the shower. This is especially good for men and women over the age of 50 or so. Some say the old skin cells still clinging to the surface of your skin contributes to that "old person smell" that is offensive to virtually everyone.

Pick up a couple of those rough surface gloves, a dollar or two I guess, in Boots, Watson's or almost any drugstore along with a granular scrub foam or lotion. Doesn't have to be an expensive brand as the scrubbing action with the gloves is what matters most I think. Squeeze out a dab about the size of a grape onto one gloved hand, rub it into a foam with the other gloved hand and get to work scrubbing on everything other than your dick and balls from around your ankles, up your legs, butt, shoulders, arms, hands, neck, ears and the less sensitive parts of the face. The whole thing shouldn't take more than an extra minute or two in the shower. Squeeze and rinse out the excess foam from the gloves and leave them nearby for the next time. Twice a week is probably plenty to keep your skin fresh and free of any associated odor.

If you have never done it before and are over the age of 50, the first time might produce a revolting swirl of brown gunk going down the drain underfoot. That was clinging to the surface of your body! And there is no reason to believe it smelled just fine! The next couple of times there will be less of that but those dead skin cells are still being scrubbed away. Just add this 2 minute procedure to your shower once or twice week.

[Haven123]

I have not noticed Thai girls wearing a shirt multiple days even if they have no detectable body odour. None of my Thai girls have any body odours at all (apart from smoking odours.

The post was about guys. Not about the girls body odor (which I agree is not an issue generally) or using shirts for multiple days without washing.

[Syzygies]

There are some additional factors:

1. Indian sub continent people, Turkish, Arabs, Indonesians, Malaysian, Filipinos etc, tend to wear shirts for Multiple days, before they are washed. Also, they may not use a lot of soap to wash, and usually do not use hot dryer to dry after a wash, mostly without the use of a product like Bounce or Febreeze spray in the dryer.

So, clothes, particularly shirts, smell due to bacteria collection and growth over several days.

2. Same issue with the bed sheets they sleep on, underwear they use etc, if not washed and cleaned with deodorizers in a hot dryer then it collects and the bacteria multiplies.

3. Sometimes spicy food, not just Indian, Malaysian, Indonesian, Singaporean, Szechuan, Korean (kimchi) food, all have some unique odors come out through the sweat glands (but usually if you are also eating kimchi or Indian with them, then due to relativity of smell at work, you might not detect it as much.). But others will, particularly in confined spaces, like an elevator, where there is no air circulation. Korean with Kimchi odors , Turks with meat odors , Szechuan region Chinese, big garlic users like Sicilians etc are just like Indian (Punjabi , or fish curry from Calcutta, for example ) all have odors that are distinctly different and discernible, distinguishable....

So, yeah IMO, many factors at work. Science of smell is actually a degree at Harvard. LOL. I know a guy with an actual PhD in this from Harvard.

I have this Thai girl from Isaan, from a farm, who does not use deodorant. She does not like my Axe deodorant. I enjoy chasing her around pretending to spay my Axe on her. LOL. Many Thai girls are not particularly impressed with perfume bottles as gifts. I track many of them on Facebook. It is incredibly rare to see any of them show a bottle of perfume as a gift for their birthday !

I have not noticed Thai girls wearing a shirt multiple days even if they have no detectable body odour. None of my Thai girls have any body odours at all (apart from smoking odours), that I can detect. One Thai girl I know years ago had bad breath but that was a stomach infection cured by antibiotics.

Yes quite correct that a shower is useless if put back on a shirt with stinky underarms. Some people do that. I prefer to sniff check at very close range under arms of a shirt after a shower and before putting it back on so I am knowing when it should be replaced (for certain). Can't always replace it if in an MP (away from home) , but at least know it should be replaced very soon. Very stinky shirts can be detected from metres away. No close sniffing needed.

As a child I recall meeting whole families from Eastern Europe who all reeked of "Garlic" most likely or some food combination, however those odours are not quite as obnoxious as the bacterial breeding type.

I don't like the smell of very strong cheap colonges used by some, and perhaps Thai girls do not also, however I find most Thai girls are into good quality perfumes of a subtle variety. They often ask me to buy them perfumes that they like, especially Lancme ones (not cheap). One of my main Thai girls suggests she likes guys to wear some nice scent too, so I have done so for her, however this seems unusual. She was the only one to suggest it. However far more important is the shower with careful dick, ass, and underarm clean before sex, and also teeth and tongue cleaning.

I also don't find many Thai girls willing to have sex if they did not very recently shower themselves. They are also reluctant to kiss in the morning before going to clean their mouth. So Thai girls like to be confidently very clean and expect the guys to be likewise.

Strong cologne does not really compensate for, or hide bad BO. Just makes it all the more sickly.

[Syzygies]

I suggest you haven't spent much time with Asian families at all mate (particularly a filipino family), or you would know that the Philippines is probably the number 1 threat to pollution of the planet's waterways. I reckon the same could be said about Thailand, Laos and Indonesia too.

I have to wonder if Haven's comment was lost in Translation somehow, as seemed to have a lot of negatives indicating what people might NOT do rather than what they actually do. I could be wrong, but wonder why all the "nots" and negatives.

[EihTooms]

Did you ever ask these girls if they already showered at home? In my experience quite a lot of girls do that. Not bar girls or streetwalkers but freelancers found on the internet.

No, I didn't ask. My observations were of their showering behavior after being out with me all day or after a shag and before sleeping, many of the times when someone would ordinarily take a shower. There was evidence that some water had splashed around sparingly. But they might not have even used a regular bath towel to dry off, only a small hand towel, and that wasn't even all that wet because so little water had been used. Every now and then they would wash their hair and then there would be more evidence of the shower nozzle being on for longer than usual for them.