Pattaya Reports

[Mr Enternational]

We've been saying for several years that getting laid in BKK is work. A far cry from the days when it was like shooting fish in a barrel.

Well I guess so when you got shit like this happening. Chick in Bangkok comes to stay with me for 1000 baht when she is in Pattaya. She said that in Bangkok guys are paying from 3000 - 5000 baht just for a chick to go to dinner with them.

[Haven123]

Have been making my monthly G club visits this week.

Really nothing too special except my favorite girl.

Camel Toe. A couple of girls that were Soi 6 level but dominated by a Japanese guy who hoarded 5 girls. Maybe 12 girls there. Difficult to catch a motorbike or taxi leaving the bar.

Heavens. Wow has this place gone downhill quickly. My understanding is most of the girls have left. About 10 girls.

Passion. About 15 girls. Best one being one that left Heavens. Compared to other G clubs except The Den and kit Cat, this bar from my limited experience is very low mileage in what you get from a girl for a ladydrink. No HJ, girls don't strip, only mouth kissing. No DFK.

Kinnaree. About 40 girls. Too much of a sausage fest during high season. Newbies may find some girls hot but nothing for me here. Same girls for a very long time.

Pirates. Maybe 8 girls. Some of the nice girls have been missing since New Year. Nothing special here. Still have one girl with top gogo quality face but big butt and doesn't seem friendly at all. Saw a Korean guy come in and out of the room with her in under 5 minutes. No lie! I'm assuming that included shower time.

Club 4 or 007 - don't remember which is which. 8 girls. 1 was ok. Bought her a drink. Sat in the sofabed booth. Absolutely useless. What a dud! Why did she call me into the bar if she was going to be such a useless tit? Left halfway into her first drink. I don't have time to waste with useless girls like this.

Jade House. About 20 girls. A couple would have looked ok 10 years ago. I have a friend working here. Not hot but she's fun so I visit once in a while. Decent food served Wed-Sun. Some days free, some days with 300 baht in drinks.

On a related note, has anyone been to Seven Club on LK Pavillion off 3rd Road? Saw a listing on Love Pattaya but I swear I have never spotted this bar. Been to Geisha Bar a few times and never seen a Seven Club. Will check it out. Also, there are a couple of bars on 3rd Road. One is called Pimp Club or something like that. Is that a G club, a nightclub?

So, in summary: You hit 7 G Clubs this week and you were hard pressed to find a single G club with more than 1 young, under 25, cute girl (actual, not just looks under 25) ?

In other words, if a particular G club has more than 3 guys there already, the 4th person coming in is left with the rest? BTW, the lighting in Kinnaree is very good at hiding the age and true looks of the girls there.

Find me a girl who is even a 6 or 6. 5 , under 23 year old, in a beer bar, and I can transform that girl in under 1000 baht (new haircut / style, manicure, pedicure, new dress for 400 baht) into something pretty darn good that you will NOT find in a Kinnaree.

The point being, for those who have time, and are here for more than 4-5 days and are not under time pressure, you can find some that are like finding a house with ' good bones ' that you can spruce up with some paint and minor inexpensive improvements, IF you like them and are good for you, and keep them for several days so that you have a good return. Unless of course, you are the catch and release ST seeking guy.

[Banana Boi]

Have been making my monthly G club visits this week.

Really nothing too special except my favorite girl.

Camel Toe. A couple of girls that were Soi 6 level but dominated by a Japanese guy who hoarded 5 girls. Maybe 12 girls there. Difficult to catch a motorbike or taxi leaving the bar.

Heavens. Wow has this place gone downhill quickly. My understanding is most of the girls have left. About 10 girls.

Passion. About 15 girls. Best one being one that left Heavens. Compared to other G clubs except The Den and kit Cat, this bar from my limited experience is very low mileage in what you get from a girl for a ladydrink. No HJ, girls don't strip, only mouth kissing. No DFK.

Kinnaree. About 40 girls. Too much of a sausage fest during high season. Newbies may find some girls hot but nothing for me here. Same girls for a very long time.

Pirates. Maybe 8 girls. Some of the nice girls have been missing since New Year. Nothing special here. Still have one girl with top gogo quality face but big butt and doesn't seem friendly at all. Saw a Korean guy come in and out of the room with her in under 5 minutes. No lie! I'm assuming that included shower time.

Club 4 or 007 - don't remember which is which. 8 girls. 1 was ok. Bought her a drink. Sat in the sofabed booth. Absolutely useless. What a dud! Why did she call me into the bar if she was going to be such a useless tit? Left halfway into her first drink. I don't have time to waste with useless girls like this.

Jade House. About 20 girls. A couple would have looked ok 10 years ago. I have a friend working here. Not hot but she's fun so I visit once in a while. Decent food served Wed-Sun. Some days free, some days with 300 baht in drinks.

On a related note, has anyone been to Seven Club on LK Pavillion off 3rd Road? Saw a listing on Love Pattaya but I swear I have never spotted this bar. Been to Geisha Bar a few times and never seen a Seven Club. Will check it out. Also, there are a couple of bars on 3rd Road. One is called Pimp Club or something like that. Is that a G club, a nightclub?

[Goatscrot]

But, these days, it's a lot of work. And, that is what is so frustrating and I think Pattaya is fast reaching a point where the work (vs the money) is just becoming a very steep climb, IF you like me want under 23, GFE and solid 6-7. 5 with a rare 8. I for one find that the ones above 8 are just too full of themselves and simply not worth my time for a busted experience.

We've been saying for several years that getting laid in BKK is work. A far cry from the days when it was like shooting fish in a barrel. I think long time residents like myself became quite spoiled in the late 90's early 00's.

[Breadman]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

I'll say this much though, the less the girl has on and is showing me what she has to offer, the higher my payout might be. The more clothing, the more I question the body, the lower I offer.

[Mr Enternational]

What exactly do you mean with this?
I wonder if the average Thai girl knows what you mean with it.

Why do you think they would not understand? A very common name for a Thai woman is Porn, which means blessing.

I mean do not let something that may be good for you slide by for whatever reason. But nobody is going to try to break down what you mean. Most of running game is talking slick and showing confidence.

[Haven123]

IMO, nothing is 100 pc this or that in Pattaya (more so than anywhere else). One needs, IMO, to always keep in mind that you are looking at a mix, or a distribution of many types of girls, at all locations. IMO, a lot of the disagreements on this board is posters viewing or seeing things in a polarized way and not as a clear distribution curve.

I don't think you can simply state that one place or any type of girl is this or that (meaning a sure thing for a target objective, whatever that might be for a specific guy) . Some examples from my own observation over many months in Pattaya (but I am far from being any kind of expert so please take it FWIW):

1. There are beach road girls that do come to Insomnia or Ibar (but a lot more to say Lucifer or Red Car). Anyone who thinks that this is not the case is simply misinformed. Girls from massage places, beer bars, go gos, and regular girls (example , working at a hotel or even 7 Eleven) go to the discos (" to enjoy" their terminology) and are open to " going with man" , as they often refer to it.

Now, I don't know what the distribution looks like, but I would guess less than 10 pc (but that's still a lot of girls) are from beach Road. Girls have specifically said they have in the past been at beach Road when they need some money ASAP.

2. Not all girls at even the best go gos are what one would call go go material. As a matter of fact, based on my recent experience (which is very limited to say about 8 diff go gos in WS and LK Metro ), I would say a full 50 pc are VERY average, meaning a 6/6. 5 or below. Some are pretty poor lookers IMO. And yeah, this even applies to Imagine (what's up upper level). Maybe 20pc of a typical top quality go go , IMO, is worth bar fining.

So, yes there is a distribution of 4's, 5's, 6's, 7's, 8's, a few 9's in all go gos.

Most places have a fixed bar fine, some have multiple levels, but still, even in each level not all girls are equivalent.

So, I would suggest not paying a steep bar fine for a 6 in a go go. And certainly don't pay 4 k.

There are 6. 5 's and the occasional 7 even avail at Insomnia for 2 K LT, and, if you are very lucky even a 7 at a beer bar. I was lucky enough in the last 8 days to bar fine four 7's from a beer bar for anywhere from 350-700 and 2 K LT. After a lot of time and work searching. I would suggest smaller beer bars in Jomtien and even Simon complex and others nearby on 2nd RD.

3. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but age is not. IMO! The vast majority of the girls at a G club like Kinnaree are definitely in their 30's. I am not paying for that cause I can get better in that age group in the US, some parts of Europe and in Latin America without a bar fine. Again, age distribution is all over the place at beer bars (so many 40 plus yo) and many go gos with 30 plus (do they need a boob job due to age and gravity). But one thing about the G clubs, like Kinnaree, they seem to have a better personality than the average girl at a top go go.

4. Young 8. 5 's and 9's are very few and are mostly at the go gos and a sprinkling at Insomnia, IMO. However, IMO, there is no denying that in those venues they do prefer Korea's and Japanese by a long shot. Money will not make a diffrence and chances are not under 8 K. At Insomnia many will simply do the hand together gesture and just turn away or say they are busy or thank you. So, yes, again there is a clear distribution in this sense that has become more pronounced in the last couple of years.

5. Yes, there is more demand than the supply of girls, at all venues. But as I (and Mr ENT) would note, you only need one (unless you are Sexmachine's wingman (who I now refer to as "2 IstheMinimum". So, the distribution is what it is. If when you are there, that one - that will fit your bill - is not there or unavailable to you, keep moving and keep looking. Somewhere along the line, the distribution curve, particularly at the right time of day, will make you lucky. But if you are here for 4-5 days then Soi 6, G clubs or go gos are your best options for point and click...but they are by and large, ST in premises options only (something I simply do not do ).

So, always be mindful of the distribution curve. Also, WS is now closing at 3-330 am, so one has to start early say by 1030 ( or in the case of some go gos by 830-9 as the older Korean and Japanese like to retire early with their barfine of the day.

But, these days, it's a lot of work. And, that is what is so frustrating and I think Pattaya is fast reaching a point where the work (vs the money) is just becoming a very steep climb, IF you like me want under 23, GFE and solid 6-7. 5 with a rare 8. I for one find that the ones above 8 are just too full of themselves and simply not worth my time for a busted experience.

[Mogwai]

One of my favorite lines to tell a chick is, "Don't miss your blessing."

What exactly do you mean with this?
I wonder if the average Thai girl knows what you mean with it.

[Mr Enternational]

What I meant by ratio is that when a ratio is heavily in favour of the working girls the clever ones know that they are in high demand. So they will either look for multiple pops or highest dollar for a long time. The odds are not in a punters favour.

IMHO too many guys give too many women too much credit. They are not as clever as you make them out to be. Women are not sitting around thinking they are in high demand and that they can have any man that comes along and that any man will go to the ends of the earth for her. Women, and people in general, are very insecure. You can get any woman by not groveling over her and by playing on her insecurities. Act like she should be trying to get with you instead of you would do anything to get with her; especially when it comes to a hooker! One of my favorite lines to tell a chick is, "Don't miss your blessing." You can change her life, but what can she really do for you besides open her legs the same as any other woman can?

[Axiata]

Proven yet again? Spending more does not get you better. How can you tell how the chicks in What's Up look anyway with that damn blue light?

What does a ratio matter? You see a chick you want and you talk to her. Damn what everyone else is doing. It is not like people are coupled off and there are no more girls available.

Thanks Mr E.

You are right. Looks are very subjective regardless of the light. My eye sight is not great at night but I did not really notice the blue lights in Whats Up. The girls looked good even with dodgy eyes.

What I meant by ratio is that when a ratio is heavily in favour of the working girls the clever ones know that they are in high demand. So they will either look for multiple pops or highest dollar for a long time. The odds are not in a punters favour.

Happy Hunting.

[Chris H]

What does a ratio matter? You see a chick you want and you talk to her. Damn what everyone else is doing. It is not like people are coupled off and there are no more girls available.

Exactly my thoughts.

[Banana Boi]

The accomodations and the ammenities. Some G Clubs will have swimming pools, food, couches in the main area, and better rooms. A BJ bar will have bar stools, a pool table, and you can get your dick sucked at some in public or go to a crude room in the back or upstairs. I would say with most G Clubs the owner has put more money into it than a BJ bar.

Given this criteria I would say the only G clubs in pattaya would be the den, kit cat, heavens, and Kinnaree.

I'll still wrongfully call them all G clubs.

[Mr Enternational]

By far the best was What's Up. Sapphire was a sausage fest and the ratio was all wrong. The other clubs had better ratio but the girls were average. What's Up and it had the best lookers and I did bar fine one who had a super body and pretty face. Performance did not match the looks.

Proven yet again? Spending more does not get you better. How can you tell how the chicks in What's Up look anyway with that damn blue light?

Also went to iBar and Insomnia but way too busy and ratio wrong.

What does a ratio matter? You see a chick you want and you talk to her. Damn what everyone else is doing. It is not like people are coupled off and there are no more girls available.

[Axiata]

Just finished a short time trip to Pattaya. Crammed a lot in 4 nights but my observations were that since my last visit in November that January was way too busy. Soi 6 was quiet during the days but the hunting was ok. Best bar was Pussy Club although the talent was still thin. Lisa Bar was a disappointment this trip. Did try Smokes and Kisses and found only one to my liking. The girls from Pussy Club were at least fun and could perform. Managed to alsp take one out for 2 hours back to my hotel were she really performed like a GF. Really the talent in Soi 6 was low. My wingman did take one from the Pussy Club that was a real PSE.

The gogos were largely hit and miss. Tried Ginza, Peppermint, Sensations, Sapphire and What's Up. By far the best was What's Up. Sapphire was a sausage fest and the ratio was all wrong. The other clubs had better ratio but the girls were average. What's Up and it had the best lookers and I did bar fine one who had a super body and pretty face. Performance did not match the looks. That said, still enjoyed being with her and performing a very long and wet DATY.

Visited Heaven G club and wow such a change from November. Only one girl there and the place was dead. Apparently all the girls have left and that spells doom I think.

Tried a few bars in LK Metro but did not see talent worth bar fine. Also went to iBar and Insomnia but way too busy and ratio wrong.

So all in all, the trip was fun but will stay away from Pattaya in January next time. Just too busy and way too many guys. Also noticed low number of good talent girls worth bar fine.

Happy Hunting.

[LittleBigMan]

Also, a club not sure if is is still open if is just off Soi Buakhao heading south just off Soi 15, the Soi that leads to the back portion of the Avenue, as soon as you approach Soi 15 to make a right there is a restaurant on the corner, just before that is a small entrance it is a small courtyard? The place is called 555.