Tokyo

[Evan Stoner]

A tip for anyone who is a regular user of Grimpeur and doesn't like carrying around a point card for 'security reasons': the shop guys will keep track of your points behind the counter if you give them your 'name' each time you take out a girl. Recommended.ES

[Tengu]

I also have to agree with PP's assessment. Even the most objective observer of Japan has to acknowledge that a certain level of racism, or perhaps just willful ignorance(?), exist here in regards to non-japanese. There are many wonderful things about this place though, so accepting a certain base level of racism just becomes part of the bargain or trade off of living here. Just calling it as it is doesn't necessarily equal a bad attitude.

[Takadondon]

I tried both happy mail and kirara cafe today and figured it may be of interest for some people. To be clear, I'm Japanese American and I speak passable Japanese for casual situations so I've never experienced the rejections others on this board may be getting. For those who are foreigners who can speak/read/write Japanese though, I don't think these options are necessarily closed to you. Believe somebody else has posted about Kirara in the past about their successes.So. I wanted to get laid this weekend so I started looking around for options. I wasn't looking necessarily for a cheap lay (I'm generally pretty picky). I started looking at happy mail because I remember seeing ads here and there around Shibuya. Its essentially supposed to be a match making site. I was hoping to find a sex friend (sefure) but it became pretty obvious after responding to a few posts on the message boards that at least the girls posting in the "adult" sections are generally pros. Most also do not have their photos up and also will not share it even if you ask them. Happy mail works by charging pts for every single mail you send or even read so I tried to get a few of the girls to start mailing outside of happy mail but that proved fruitless as well. I finally ran into one girl who had a photo which looked good so I set up a rendevoux in Shibuya. The girl that arrived was a cow that didn't look anything like the photo. If you are patient enough and have the time you may be able to hook up with a decent looking girl through this site. Most girls seemed to ask for 20k. I quit while I was ahead (I didn't pay anything as I stayed within the starting free points happy mail gives newcomers).After rejecting the cow I decided to give Kirara Cafe (deai cafe) in Shinjuku a visit. This was only the 2nd time I've been to a deai cafe, the first time being Nonno Cafe in Shibuya a while ago. My prior attempt ended up being a fruitless experience. I think I made the mistake of when talking to the girl that I wanted to go to the hotel directly (effectively skip the "date"). Anyways I got to Kirara Cafe, they waived the membership fee but they did charge me 5k unlimited entrance and talk time with girls. Meaning I can go in/out multiple times in a day if I don't see what I want. The setup is guys are in one room and girls in another separated by a magic mirror. When you see a girl you like you tell the attendant and he'll arrange a 1 on 1 talk time with the girl where you have 10 mins to seal the deal. If both you and the girl agree to date then you have to pay another 3k yen to take the girl out. In general the girl will expect to get an allowance of 5k. 10k for dating you. If you decide to take her to a hotel after the date it'll cost you a lot more.When I went today the place (around 7pm) it was bad. There were 6 guys in the room and only 1 girl in the other room. The girl was cute however and apparently newly signing up as a member. Unsurprisingly when the attendant came with her profile most of the guys (including me) raised our hands to have a personal chat time. The system in that case is fair where the guys would select a card from a stack and order is determined based on that. I wasn't so lucky this time with the draw and the guy who first talked to her decided to take her out on a date. I then waited what felt like ages till the next girl came (but passed on). Then around 8pm my luck changed and 3 girls came into the store at once. 2 out of the three was very very cute (the type of girls you see walking around Shibuya). I picked a 23 year old girl and proceeded to have the 1 on 1 talk. At which point we agreed on what we will do (karaoke) and how much was the allowance (10k). We then left the store together, singed Karaoke for an hour. Part of which was negotiating the cost to get laid. We then proceeded to a nearby love hotel and did the deed. I won't bother going into the details given this is a Deai cafe and as the girl doesn't work there you'll have a slim chance of meeting up.The only bummer is the cost of the experience, which was for me.- 5k entrance to kirara.- 3k to take the girl out.- 10k allowance for the girl.- 3k karaoke + drinks/food- 4k love hotel- 35k for sexTotal being 60k. I guess depending on the girl you can probably skip the "date" part and also negotiate down the allowance and sex charges (I'm a bad negotiator). The main upside is that you get to pretty much pick and choose the girl, and compared to what I've had at various delivery massages and delivery healths (w/ and w/o sex), there is good quality to be had as long as you are patient.Finally one thing with the deai cafes. Both Nonno and Kirara both will ask for personal information (name/address/ph). You can put in BS for most of the fields except for the phone number. They will call the number you apply with on the spot to make sure its real.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

[Japanguy]

PP, for what it's worth I have to agree with you. I'm basically a Tokyo salaryman, I work in a Japanese company, I visit the small places that other salarymen eat and drink in, and I only have a couple of non-Japanese friends that I see rarely. I live my day to day life without encountering racism, I've never encountered the sort of racism that I read other people have encountered (trouble with police, being turned away from shops etc).But occasionally I come across the mind set you describe and I'm reminded that I am in fact a white guy living in a foreign land and that Japan has a long way to go before it can be considered multicultural. Quite likely Japan will never be multicultural.I visit a couple of the places mentioned here regularly because I've given up trying other places. I do appreciate the efforts of the other mongers here that are willing to face rejection and take a hit for the team.

[Backtobasics]

PP,Thanks so much for the link to that fine establishment in Ikebukuro. That fine, but filthy, part of town has been my den of iniquity this week, with Milky Baby and TMK Manami sessions. I am now considerably poorer (and in need of a good long sleep ...), but I think I have recharged my batteries enough to get me through the next 4 months of work.However, ... Mars pricked up my ears and got me thinking of dropping a bit more ? in Ikebukuro. Until I watched some of the videos on the site ... Ooohhh.... I am now sitting with my legs firmly crossed, and they may stay that way!

As I start the last weekend of this stay in Tokyo, I reflect back on the virtue of enjoying local specialties. In Tokyo, that is Fetish Domina S&M and pink salons. This link below looks like a good candidate for you pervs out there. It has English menus so might be gaijin friendly. I think I will try it on my next trip. For now, I am doing one more session with my demon of a domina, shoot semen into the mouth of one more low-rent Jan-Jan OL, and then divert to Jakarta to 'get my monger back'. This has been a humbling and expensive time for me, typical for Japan trips. Maybe, in another generation, gaijin will be able to enter soapland and fashion health without complications, but for now I leave once more with ill feelings toward Japan and hopes for change in the mindset of the Japanese people. Not only with regard to fuzoku, but to foreigners in any setting. The xenophobia of Japan and lack of understanding about the rest of the world astonishes and disappoints me more on each trip as I come to understand that it exists not only in the countryside, but just as much so in the urban areas among well-educated Japanese.The SM scene is the only place that I have experienced truly well-traveled and multicultural Japanese who don't discriminate against gaijin or act as if we are oddities. Ironically, the same ones who treat me like an animal in session are the ones that are most civilized in their approach and conversations in a normal setting. Maybe because they don't hold much sacred, and the rest of Japanese consider everything Japanese to be sacred. Everything not-Japanese is less kirei and therefore inferior unless the Japanese consider it to have entertainment value. That is my take after 2 months in Japan. It's what I feel on the streets of Tokyo, Yokohama, Osaka, Kyoto, and lesser known parts around the rest of Honshu. Perhaps an expat can correct me if I am wrong.So try and enjoy. I will be back before long with more reports on Tokyo and Osaka on my next trip to Nihon. Sponsored of course because I wouldn't come here on my own money. If any newbie horny traveller is reading this thread and thinking of coming here for tourism + geisha and the other things that people think you can have here: beautiful J-girls with legs spread and wild bush begging for anal fuck, coupla kissa, eel shows, bukkake film shoots, etc...keep flying past it....it's somewhere here.. but as gaijin you'll never see in this lifetime. "Shit ain't like that". http://www.club-mars.jp/html/index.html-pp

[Member #3439]

Correction: as a gaijin tourist with the wrong attitude, you'll never see it. For those of us with the requisite perspective and patience the sky continues to be the limit.Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.ES P.S. Eel shows? WTF

Thank for for that insight. It seems the sky is not the limit even for skilled J-mongers such as yourself who are fluent in Japanese but still concerned about getting caught out as a non-Japanese over the phone. I think that your posts on this board confirm everything I am saying.The concerns of ISG'ers in Japan would seem ludicrous to people from most other threads on ISG. It is rough here. Guys in the Arab muslim countries have an even easier time.No need to flame me. I post info that gets people laid, here and in Osaka. I spend a few months a year working in Japan, so am not gaijin tourist. But this is P4P, not nampa, and if you have cold cash and a hard dick, what difference should it make whether you are here for a day or a lifetime? Even in rural Mexico and hidden nooks of downtown Rio de Janeiro where gringos are rarely seen, let alone fucked, I have no problem laying anything I want and never experience the kind of racism that exists in Japan. They could just as easily take my wallet and push me out the door. The police would do nothing. But they choose to fuck me and treat me very well. So when I indicate that people in Japan are still generally still backwards, this is where I am coming from. That said, there are some people with a modern outlook like Milkybaby, Jan-Jan and D-cup. But this is maybe, what, 0.05% of the total that is available to Japanese? Exceptions rather than the rule.What, you've never seen an unagi film? Anything that people eat in a sushi bar, Japanese A/V find some way for a girl to have sex with it...or at least give the apperance thereof. Unagi, tako, etc.

[Evan Stoner]

...humbling...ill feelings...xenophobia...If any newbie horny traveller is reading this thread and thinking of coming here for tourism + geisha and the other things that people think you can have here: beautiful J-girls with legs spread and wild bush begging for anal fuck, coupla kissa, eel shows, bukkake film shoots, etc...keep flying past it....it's somewhere here.. but as gaijin you'll never see in this lifetime....

Correction: as a gaijin tourist with the wrong attitude, you'll never see it. For those of us with the requisite perspective and patience the sky continues to be the limit.Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.ESP.S. Eel shows? WTF

[Member #3439]

As I start the last weekend of this stay in Tokyo, I reflect back on the virtue of enjoying local specialties. In Tokyo, that is Fetish Domina S&M and pink salons. This link below looks like a good candidate for you pervs out there. It has English menus so might be gaijin friendly. I think I will try it on my next trip. For now, I am doing one more session with my demon of a domina, shoot semen into the mouth of one more low-rent Jan-Jan OL, and then divert to Jakarta to 'get my monger back'. This has been a humbling and expensive time for me, typical for Japan trips. Maybe, in another generation, gaijin will be able to enter soapland and fashion health without complications, but for now I leave once more with ill feelings toward Japan and hopes for change in the mindset of the Japanese people. Not only with regard to fuzoku, but to foreigners in any setting. The xenophobia of Japan and lack of understanding about the rest of the world astonishes and disappoints me more on each trip as I come to understand that it exists not only in the countryside, but just as much so in the urban areas among well-educated Japanese.The SM scene is the only place that I have experienced truly well-traveled and multicultural Japanese who don't discriminate against gaijin or act as if we are oddities. Ironically, the same ones who treat me like an animal in session are the ones that are most civilized in their approach and conversations in a normal setting. Maybe because they don't hold much sacred, and the rest of Japanese consider everything Japanese to be sacred. Everything not-Japanese is less kirei and therefore inferior unless the Japanese consider it to have entertainment value. That is my take after 2 months in Japan. It's what I feel on the streets of Tokyo, Yokohama, Osaka, Kyoto, and lesser known parts around the rest of Honshu. Perhaps an expat can correct me if I am wrong.So try and enjoy. I will be back before long with more reports on Tokyo and Osaka on my next trip to Nihon. Sponsored of course because I wouldn't come here on my own money. If any newbie horny traveller is reading this thread and thinking of coming here for tourism + geisha and the other things that people think you can have here: beautiful J-girls with legs spread and wild bush begging for anal fuck, coupla kissa, eel shows, bukkake film shoots, etc...keep flying past it....it's somewhere here.. but as gaijin you'll never see in this lifetime. "Shit ain't like that". http://www.club-mars.jp/html/index.html-pp

[Pat Rick]

Choco-san, I think you would be able to score non-pros in the bar scene at certain places. Try Gaspanic in Shibuya first, late at night, then the gaijin bars in Roppongi. Check the Nampa thread here on ISG as well. After midnight, try the places where people hang out waiting for the trains to restart. Look online for international parties, then go to them. Introduce yourself as Choco-san and see what happens. Then post a report in the nampa section about your experiences.Welcome to ISG.-Puta Playa

Thanks for the info, Gaspanic looks wild. I'll have to check it out.

[Prius Driver]

The girls that let me touch their breasts that are still working there are Kei, Asami and Mui. There is even an old post where Kei gave someone a BBBJCIM. I've only had one girl that didn't show me her breasts, let alone touch them. That was Nataliy. I feel the same as you so I'll never ask for her again. Thanks for the tip on Yuki. If you are nice to the girls, some of them might secretly give their phone number and mobile phone address supposedly for some FS action. Although I have never taken them up on it.

Hey guys,No words on AF/AR for a long time. Still one of my favourite thoughI like LALA, she is nice and petite, but very friendly. Great massage, with lots of oil and attention to my ass, then the greatest ball massage ever.Also, she let me touch her breasts while handjobing me, which is nice.Yuki is nice too, but touching her is a no-go, which is quite putting me off.Though, I'd like to try a new girl there. Any recommendation?Kei and Sara look very nice. However, I need a girl who is happy to ge touched. Who are you recommending?Thanks for the tip. I have a lot of free mongering time now and will post some reports this week. Please enjoy all.

[Member #3439]

In Phuket, I'm known as a 'chocolate man', over the years, never had a problem there. I am making my first solo trip to Tokyo within a few weeks. In the evening hours I want to have some fun. After reading several threads, I'm going with either CB or AM. Will I be judge by my chocolateness :-) or will I be just another customer. Thanks!

Choco-san, I think you would be able to score non-pros in the bar scene at certain places. Try Gaspanic in Shibuya first, late at night, then the gaijin bars in Roppongi. Check the Nampa thread here on ISG as well. After midnight, try the places where people hang out waiting for the trains to restart. Look online for international parties, then go to them. Introduce yourself as Choco-san and see what happens. Then post a report in the nampa section about your experiences.Welcome to ISG.-Puta Playa

[AussieGaigin]

What are you referring to? There was no mention of any filipinas.

Yes there was. Try post 7128.

[Dynomutt]

For you Jan-Jan lovers:I went there tonight, 6:50 pm and it was 3000 yen. I walked out at 7:25 and it was 4000 yen on the sign, so 7 PM if definitely the cut off time for 3k pricing.If I could have a MILF to fuck whenever I come to Tokyo, wow, that would be the dream. I would save so much money!!!!

And you just stopped for something to eat! Great read, Puta Playa. You must be a charming fellow; especially when you're drunk. I'm impressed by how you planned on working your angle for the next 'date,' too.

[Xslikx]

Hi Ronin,Thanks for calling d-suiren. I happen to be from an asian country, do I have to speak japanese with them though?Thanks

Yes. Korean Delivery is all in Japanese.

[Xslikx]

For the money you would pay in Roppongi for a filipina, you might as well save it and fly to Manila for the real deal.

What are you referring to? There was no mention of any filipinas.