Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[LifeIsABeach]

It seems like Vietnam crushes Thailand in terms of prices, particularly if you go with the Vietnamese language online escort sites. But what about service level and attitudes of girls? In China over the past 5 years I've experienced some truly awful service; the girls have poor attitudes and legitimately hate you for being a non-Asian and choosing them about 80% of the time. "hurry up finish faster" after 5 minutes, "I don't do oral", or "Only put like half of it in okay?" are all the norm. 10% you're lucky to get somebody who is apathetic / indifferent and at least professional, and maybe 10% you get one who is either a good performer or actually likes you, with the two being easy to differentiate by how they behave after the act.
I've yet to visit Vietnam and only had 2 Viet girls, one in China and one in Thailand. Both were great service wise. What's the standard experience? Are they generally nice / polite / service oriented toward young western men? Or more like Chinese and frequently complaining / bitching / angry about making money if they have to take a western the? Does the answer change if dealing with girls from the web vs girls in the major tourist streets?
Thanks, all.

It is difficult to generalize. Everyone may have a dud experience at least once on a long trip. I have had excellent service from Viet girls in Cambodia. In Vietnam, in Nha Tran, many massage places offer sex. I had selected a youngish looking girl who gave a semi massage and then went to give me a half hearted blow job. I decided to take matters over. I took off all her clothes and got her to kneel and shoved my dick in her mouth and with my hands behind her head, with a smooth motion pushed my dick in and out till she got a hang of it. Then I put her on he massage table and kissed her all over and she was very in it and juices where flowing from her vagina.

Then I layed on the table and she returned the favors, licking my dick, balls and rest of the body before we had sex in multiple positions.

I Dha Tran, I had sex sex with a woman in her thirties. The pace I found had a very old lady and I asked for a younger one. She said no younger ones. So I opted for a massage and while I was taking off my clothes, the old lady called a a friend. Before the massage started, in popped this woman in her thirties with a nice body.

She was very in the sex and I even had sex without a condom with her.

It may be that Viet men are quick bang bang and done. Women want more.

The above was two yeas ago. Times may have changed.

[Lefeu]

...Natty and Lefeu, where are the Viet girls in Jakarta? I haven't seen any at Malioboro for a long time. Maybe there were some but no one that stood out for me. I didn't bring my telescope last few times at Malioboro.

Yes, there were some in Malioboro the last time I was there. I also met a few Viet chicks online. But the best was when Alexis was open back many years ago, full of Viet girls, similar to D1 in Macau.

I also met a lovely Viet chick in Bangkok, soy Nana this past January, thanks to a hint from Eih Tooms. Gosh, I liked that chick so much that I ended up practically wifing up with her the time I was there I was there. I remember I did a side trip to Phnom Penh, and I could not wait to come back to Bangkok.

[Banana Boi]

It's been just over a year since I spent around 10 days in HCM. I mainly stayed near Walking Street but I also went to some places near Chinatown. District 5? At the time I really didn't like it other than some pretty damn good street food and small pho shops. Looking back though it wasn't all that bad. Really liked one of the bartenders at a bar outside of Walking Street. If I lived there I would be hitting on her as a civilian girl. There was a pretty nice looking girl at 1 of the shops right on Walking Street. She was pricey and wanted upcharge for topless, nude, BJ, FS. It was something like 200 USD for the whole shebang on a small massage table. Liked her but no thanks. The prettiest of the girls was a young petite thing with perky tits at a massage shop on one of the side alleys. Damn she was pretty. Unfortunately, no photos allowed. Service was actually ok but she only offered up to BJ. There were a couple of really pretty girls sitting along Walking Street but I heard they were bait and switch so didn't even talk to them. Too bad. The girls I saw at the massage shops outside of the tourist area were not as pretty as the 3 mentioned above. Overall I didn't see too many hot Viet girls and I really like Viet girls.

The Singapore clubs have some very nice looking Viet girls but it's Singapore so it's pretty expensive when you total hotel plus girl.

Kuala Lumpur has a lot in Beach Club and Thai Club. There were easily over 40 of them in Thai Club last year. None were good. 3 years ago there were some nice Viet girls in KL.

Natty and Lefeu, where are the Viet girls in Jakarta? I haven't seen any at Malioboro for a long time. Maybe there were some but no one that stood out for me. I didn't bring my telescope last few times at Malioboro.

[Member #4698]

I spent a week in HCMC but it was largely a disappointment, difficult to navigate the field with no language ability. I did much better with Viet girls I met at other destinations, in particular Singapore, Macau, and Jakarta.

Me too. I have found Saigon has too many issues standing in the way of it being a fun short time visit mongering destination. Go there for the travel experience and food and let any worthwhile girls you unexpectedly find be a fringe benefit, but don't count on it.

I have, however, met some really nice Viet girls in all three of those towns you mention in your post. Pre-Corona, I would rate Singapore #1 for Viets, Macau a strong 2nd place, and Jakarta a distant, but a still viable 3rd place. I have no idea what the situation will be like Post-Corona in any of those towns as far as Vietnamese imports are concerned. The girls may never return. I hope they will.

Phnom Penh used to be a great town to find Viet girls about 10 to 15 years ago, but not any longer. The Viets all went home. Hong Kong too used to be really good for sourcing sexy Viet girls in Wan Chai bars, but forgetabout that scene now. HkG has been a terrible mongering destination for at least the last 4 years and I mean shockingly bad. 555.

[Lefeu]

It seems like Vietnam crushes Thailand in terms of prices, particularly if you go with the Vietnamese language online escort sites...I've yet to visit Vietnam...

That was quite a curve there, or else I misread you. From your first paragraph, I was expecting some wisdom about mongering in Vietnam from you. Oh well.

I do share your views on working girls from China, a big disappointment for me. I tried them in mainland China, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Macau. Easy to find eye candy, but lousy attitude in general. I ended up giving up on them.

But I do like Viet girls, and so far I've been quite pleased with them. They are definitely eye candy, my primary criterion, and can be fun if handled right, as they can be feisty. I spent a week in HCMC but it was largely a disappointment, difficult to navigate the field with no language ability. I did much better with Viet girls I met at other destinations, in particular Singapore, Macau, and Jakarta.

[CoconutWater89]

It seems like Vietnam crushes Thailand in terms of prices, particularly if you go with the Vietnamese language online escort sites. But what about service level and attitudes of girls? In China over the past 5 years I've experienced some truly awful service; the girls have poor attitudes and legitimately hate you for being a non-Asian and choosing them about 80% of the time. "hurry up finish faster" after 5 minutes, "I don't do oral", or "Only put like half of it in okay?" are all the norm. 10% you're lucky to get somebody who is apathetic / indifferent and at least professional, and maybe 10% you get one who is either a good performer or actually likes you, with the two being easy to differentiate by how they behave after the act.

Thailand it was extremely impressive. Had a few duds who were a little indifferent, but never actively bitchy or complaining. Most were able to replicate the feeling of having sex with a girlfriend you'd only started dating 3-4 weeks ago. For at least 2, they were clearly not even pretending either and was very pleased. Unsolicited french kissing, insisting on NOT using a condom (cuddling afterword, chatting and asking deeper questions about you beyond the surface level stuff, sharing some of their own personal details and all that stuff. I actually value all of that.

I've yet to visit Vietnam and only had 2 Viet girls, one in China and one in Thailand. Both were great service wise. What's the standard experience? Are they generally nice / polite / service oriented toward young western men? Or more like Chinese and frequently complaining / bitching / angry about making money if they have to take a western the? Does the answer change if dealing with girls from the web vs girls in the major tourist streets?

Thanks, all.

[EatALotOpus]

You are a hopeless romantic.

I take it as a compliment.

[PedroMorales]

In our chats I had mentioned to her about anal and she was skeptical at the beginning but open. On further discussion she agreed to try. Mind you I'm not much into anal. If it's available why not. I wanted to be her first of everything as much as I could..

You are a hopeless romantic.

[The Cane]

I had been corresponding with a non pro via Zalo, a Vietnamese app, for a quiet while and had promised to meet her when I would get there. Very easy "relationship" no strings attached, no demands.

I Arrive in Saigon early February, and this time I used the VOA. Visa On Arrival. I will not do it again. Just don't like the waiting.

All this time my girl, I call her Lihn, was waiting outside as planned and I kept her up to date as to why I was taking so long. After getting the visa went through customs that was not even manned and out I was.

I scanned the crowd and there she was. Every bit what I was expecting minus the English. She writes better than she speaks.

Into the taxi and to the hotel. Check in was easy with her showing ID and up we go..

Anal connoisseurs around the world unite LOL!

[EatALotOpus]

I had been corresponding with a non pro via Zalo, a Vietnamese app, for a quiet while and had promised to meet her when I would get there. Very easy "relationship" no strings attached, no demands.

I Arrive in Saigon early February, and this time I used the VOA. Visa On Arrival. I will not do it again. Just don't like the waiting.

All this time my girl, I call her Lihn, was waiting outside as planned and I kept her up to date as to why I was taking so long. After getting the visa went through customs that was not even manned and out I was.

I scanned the crowd and there she was. Every bit what I was expecting minus the English. She writes better than she speaks.

Into the taxi and to the hotel. Check in was easy with her showing ID and up we go.

Kissing started in the elevator. Nice kisser and nice clean breath. Some heavy petting in the room and into the shower she went, Coming out of the shower with nothing but her Birthday suit I hold her from her waist so to admire her body. For a 38 yo She was very well preserved. Never married, no baby, slight belly fat. No sex for over fifteen years. Just heavy masturbation.

Quick shower for me and eased her on to the bed. The first round was all me doing the work. The rest rest of the day was just pleasure with only a brief pause to go out for dinner.

In our chats I had mentioned to her about anal and she was skeptical at the beginning but open. On further discussion she agreed to try. Mind you I'm not much into anal. If it's available why not. I wanted to be her first of everything as much as I could.

On the third day. As I was licking her brown eye I inserted a finger as I had done before without resistance and she again left a pleasant moan. Grabbed some lubricant that was pre positioned by the night stand and slowly went in. More moans more lube and a second and third finger. It was time to break that door down. When the Little Head was half way in, a little twitch and slight arching of the back. Told her to relax, in and out couple times then in we go. Took it like a champ. I let her absorb as much as she was able to absorb, which it was all, I and less than a minute.

The glow on her face was all I needed to see. I knew and she confirmed that she loved it.

As she had a full time job and I had other business to attend to, we agreed for her to visit on Saturdays and leave on Sundays for the duration of my stay. She did. We both had fun No demands ever made.

Doing it again on the next visit.

Stay well.

Eatalotopus.

[D Cups]

Lefeu,

Ditto. I went to VN for work (visiting prof) 10 X in 7 years all before 2014 and have the same conclusion: beautiful girls but many over-priced and limited English. Wish I had met Mutant Chicken when I was there. Benny's hot toc and big titty Mae from Smiley's were fond memories. If you have a chance to go to Halong Bay outside of Hanoi I recommend the boat tours. There are also some hot tocs up there.

[Lefeu]

...Overall I was disappointed with the experience. The sex was rushed and the price was way too high for what I received. For the same amount of money I could fuck a glamour model blonde with double DS in Manchester! But that's what happens when you go to touristy areas like this for sex. It's the Patpong effect. If you lived in Ho Chi Minh City, had plenty of time on your hands and knew the right places, I'm sure it would be easy to find cheap, high quality pussy, but the massage places and freelancers on Bui Vien do not represent value for money.

...I walked back to my hotel and as I began packing, I asked myself the same question I always ask when I visit a new sex destination. Is the girlie scene worth visiting especially? In this case, I'd say not. The hot-tocs were an interesting experience, offering blow-jobs for cheap prices, but the sex venues are vastly over-priced. You could have a lot more fun for a lot less money in places like Cambodia, Philippines, Indonesia or Thailand.

I had the same experience when I last visited HCMC a few years ago. I also came to the same conclusion on the girlie scene. I stayed a week and was able to score with a beautiful Vietnamese girl on my last 2 nights. We are now friends on Facebook and she keeps asking me to come back, but I doubt that I will go back again to hcmc for mongering. The other places are so much better.

[Gromit8]

If I take my 1st trip to Vietnam and Saigon, is it reasonable to expect BB FS and kissing with some of the women on.

http://www.vnanchoi.com/forum*******...h-binh-tan.61/

And if not, are there any ways to get it in Saigon?

If not I can get it in Pattaya easily. Don't want to waste a precious holiday. HJ and BJ are no use to me, covered S is hardly worth it.

You are better off in Pattaya for sure. Can you get it in VN? Sure, anything is possible with enough time and money. But it is not a straightforward task. Unless you have zero standards.

[ChronoTrigger]

If I take my 1st trip to Vietnam and Saigon, is it reasonable to expect BB FS and kissing with some of the women on.

http://www.vnanchoi.com/forum*******...h-binh-tan.61/

And if not, are there any ways to get it in Saigon?

If not I can get it in Pattaya easily. Don't want to waste a precious holiday. HJ and BJ are no use to me, covered S is hardly worth it.

[Sir Lancelot]

DAY 3: Massage with extras.

Confession time, I have always tried to dilute my pay-for-play with a bit of tourism. So at 7. 30 am I was picked up by a minibus outside my hotel and taken to the CuChi tunnels and then on a boat-trip around the Mekong Delta. It's always important to have photos to show the folks back home.

There was a fairly pretty Canadian woman on the trip, probably early thirties. She had a short fashionable haircut and a great arse, as I was able to confirm as I crawled behind her through one of the tunnels. She asked to swap numbers on the way back to Ho Chi Minh City, hinting that maybe we could meet later for drinks. I was tempted. Given her flirty nature I was confident I could get in to her knickers but I wanted to sample some of the local pussy instead. I've had sex with over 200 girls around Asia but only two of them were Vietnamese. Oddly both were in massage parlours in Siem Reap, Cambodia, and one of them, a pale-skinned beauty with a gorgeous slim body, gave me exceptional sex. I was hoping for more of the same tonight. I'd had two blowjobs so far in Ho Chi Minh City but this was my last night and I wanted to go out with a bang, literally.

However the minibus didn't drop me back at my hotel until 8 pm. I was hoping to get back earlier so I could get another blowjob at KPK, before heading out and finding a sexy girl to fuck, maybe even two. But by the time I'd showered and got myself something to eat, the time was 9. 30 pm. I had a 5 am alarm call next day to catch an early flight, so it meant I only had time for one girl.

I'd researched numerous places in District 1, most of which are large hotels like Hai Yen, Vien Dong and Dai Nam which offer a massage service. But as this was my last night I didn't want to run the risk of getting a lengthy massage before finding out that an overpriced hand-job is all that is on the menu. The most promising place I'd found online was Queen Bee Hotel in District 7, where full sex definitely is on the menu. There is a video online of a big lineup of young girls and many of them are very pretty.

But I couldn't get the girl with fishnets out of my head from last night. Judging by the glint in her eye, I reckon she could give me a wild time!

So I formulated a plan. I'd go to Bui Vien and hopefully see the girl in fishnets. I'd ask her for a massage and hopefully fuck her afterwards. But if that didn't go to plan, for example if I couldn't find her or she refused sex, I'd go to Queen Bee instead.

I walked along Bui Vien and took the second alley on the right after Go2 bar. I think it's called Hem 241 Pham Ngu Lao. It's a tight alley with small noodle restaurants, grocery shops and backpacker style guesthouses. There are a few Thai-style massage places on the right with generally older girls sat on plastic stools outside, trying to tempt you inside for a massage. I walked past the first and then I saw her, sat outside the next, the girl in fishnets! She wasn't wearing fishnets tonight but was looking as sexy as I remembered and her boobs were straining to pop out of the tight top she was wearing. She sprang to her feet when she saw me and intercepted me in the alley.

'I remembered you from last night' I said, sounding like a complete amateur.

She pressed her curvy body in to mine and said huskily 'You wan oily massage?

How could I resist? Behind her was a list of services and oily massage was just 300,000 dong. Even if she didn't offer extras, I'd still get a nice cheap oily massage to get me in the mood for one of the girls at Queen Bee.

She led me inside and up some narrow stairs at the back of the shop. She was wearing a tight mini-skirt and I admired her tight jiggling arse as we climbed up to the second floor. We entered a small room with a proper massage bed and she said 'Take your clothes off', closing the door behind her. I stripped down to my underwear before innocently asking 'these too?' She nodded. Sex was definitely on the menu.

I lay down on the bed and she began massaging oil in to my back. It felt really good. We chatted and although there was a language barrier, she giggled a lot. Last night I placed her at 30 years old but now I had chance to talk to her, I'd guess she was mid-thirties. She was one of those girls that 10 years ago was probably a worldy but even now was still sexy. I felt myself getting hard as she massaged me, accidentally (but on purpose) brushing her fingers against my arse and balls.

'Turn around' she said.

I followed her instruction, rolling over and my erection sprang in her direction. 'You wan extras?' she said with a smile.

The prices she offered were crazy though. 1 million for a hand-job, 1. 5 for a blowjob and an eye-watering 2 million for sex. It was my own fault for coming across as over-keen. Although I'm in my early 40's I look a lot younger and no matter how much sun I get, I always have a fresh-off-the-plane look. She probably thought I was a naive backpacker and I'd pay whatever she asked.

As much as I love massage-with-extras places, the drawback is having to negotiate with an erection. It definitely puts you at a disadvantage! Also I find that talking money is a guaranteed way of losing wood. After a quick rally of verbal tennis we agreed on 1. 5 million for a blowjob and full-sex but it must include kissing too. It's probably about the same as I would have spent if I went to one of the hotel massage parlours.

I had bought my own condom but in the blink of an eye she quickly rolled one of her own on to my dick. As is often the case in these places, it was too tight. She removed her black lacy bra and amazingly, right before my eyes, her tits almost completely vanished. I've seen some wonderbra wonders in my time but this was like a magic trick. On the street she looked like she had a sizeable rack but without her bra, her boobs disappeared. She had the biggest, puffiest nipples I've ever seen though and as she began sucking my dick, slow and deep, a couple of my fingers inserted in to her warm pussy, I wasn't complaining.

After a couple of minutes she clambered up on to the massage table and lowered her pussy on to me, letting out a little groan as I slid in. But then weird things began to happen. She leaned forward and began kissing me with the most bizarre technique I've ever experienced. She opened her mouth wide, clamped her face tightly against mine, stuck her tongue as far down my throat as possible and began waggling it around frantically. Kissing is a big turn-on for me but this was like kissing a camel. Even weirder, she just lay on top of me. She didn't grind her pussy or use her hips, she just lay there flat like a blow-up doll, attacking me with her lips.

I picked this girl because I sensed she'd give me a wild time but she seemed inexperienced.

I grabbed her soft arse-cheeks and began rocking her up and down and before long we had a nice rhythm going. I leaned up and sucked her massive nipples and then flipped her over on to her back. On a double bed it's an easy manouevre but it's awkward on a narrow massage table. I fucked her in missionary, her legs spread wide and she began making those over-theatrical groaning noises I hate. I started kissing her again to make her shut up. Within a minute she was gasping 'come for me, come for me' in sync with the creaking massage table, trying to hurry me along. There wasn't a chance I was hurrying when I'd forked out 1. 5 million!

Normally I like to try lots of positions but it was difficult on the wobbly table so I just pounded away in mish. 'I come! I come!' she shouted, fooling no-one. The sex felt fake, like fucking a prostitute in Amsterdam's red light district.

I pulled the condom off and asked her to finish me with a blowjob. She obliged, wrapping her lovely warm lips around my cock and finally putting her tongue to good use. I lay back and enjoyed the moment. A sexy hooker sucking me off, the seedy room faintly illuminated by the flickering neon sign outside. Unfortunately she noticed my body tightening up and pulled her face away before I could unload in to her mouth, so I shot up my chest. Wet wipe please!

Overall I was disappointed with the experience. The sex was rushed and the price was way too high for what I received. For the same amount of money I could fuck a glamour model blonde with double DS in Manchester! But that's what happens when you go to touristy areas like this for sex. It's the Patpong effect. If you lived in Ho Chi Minh City, had plenty of time on your hands and knew the right places, I'm sure it would be easy to find cheap, high quality pussy, but the massage places and freelancers on Bui Vien do not represent value for money.

But I am eternal optimist and try to look on the bright side of life. The blowjob was excellent again. If Ho Chi Minh City didn't deliver good sex for me, it certainly did with blowjobs.

I walked back to my hotel and as I began packing, I asked myself the same question I always ask when I visit a new sex destination. Is the girlie scene worth visiting especially? In this case, I'd say not. The hot-tocs were an interesting experience, offering blow-jobs for cheap prices, but the sex venues are vastly over-priced. You could have a lot more fun for a lot less money in places like Cambodia, Philippines, Indonesia or Thailand.