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[JohnReter335]

What area will you be in. If its in the city then yes its very easy to find. Even in the far parts chiriqui and Santiago should be OK as well.

Oh I'm out of town.

[ArthurDental]

What area will you be in. If its in the city then yes its very easy to find. Even in the far parts chiriqui and Santiago should be OK as well.

I plan to stay in PC most of the time. May visit a beach town or Boca for a short time, but ok if I don't get to them. So it would be nice to get a "local" who can show me around time and let me practice Spanish, among other things.

Do I have to try different drivers. I'm very picky (pretty face spinners), but don't want to run up crazy cab fares!

[Lancer19]

Sounds like my kind of fun but I'll have only a bit over a week in Panama total. Is it possible to find that kind of experience without a long get-to-know-her period?

What area will you be in. If its in the city then yes its very easy to find. Even in the far parts chiriqui and Santiago should be OK as well.

[Trillian]

Find any young taxi driver in town and they will probably know a young chica who moonlights on the side and you can find some VERY pretty young chicas. There are some pros that hang out in "gringo bars" as well but they tend to want more money. Yes it IS still possible to find a young, semi-pro that will be happy with $20 ST but I prefer to find the young women that want to be your "girlfriend" for the duration of your stay. They treat you better in bed and probably wind up being cheaper in the long run. If you want to have the non-pro "girlfriend" thing then you will need to have at least a working knowledge of the spanish language.

I will attach a few pics of one of my "gf's. " She worked in one of the casinos and after I had been in there several times and got to know some of the people working there, she was very happy to be my girlfriend. Never asked for a dime. The last is of a girl that worked as a nanny for my father, I waited until she turned 18 to satisfy her crush.

Sounds like my kind of fun but I'll have only a bit over a week in Panama total. Is it possible to find that kind of experience without a long get-to-know-her period?

[El Mechanico]

I posted here as well as the PTY section.

Transportation: Took a United flight from MSY to IAH to PTY. Those red eye flight to kill me but I actually got a good nights sleep the night before. No issues with the flights going or coming. Effing UA! It was cheaper for me to drive to New Orleans take the redeye to IAH and then fly to PTY than it was to take the Direct nonstop flight from IAH to PTY. Cheaper flight, 2 hrs less driving, I will never understand UA's logic. Once I got to PTY, I had a friend waiting for me at the airport to drive me to the Allbrook mall airport for $30. Got there in plenty of time, took the one hour commuter from PAN to Bocas del Toro airport on the island. Everything went very smooth, except you cannot check in on line with Air Panama. You have to check in an hour before the flight at the airport. At least that's what I was told on the phone when I called the day before I left the US. One thing I absolutely hate about Panama City is you have to go through double screening. When connecting through PTY to the MDE, we have to be rescreened at the gate. When I left from PTY this past trip, I went through initial screening, went to the gate and was screened again. Absolutely ridiculous. Maybe somebody can tell me why. I don't understand if you're coming in from another flight, you should be in a sterile corridor but they don't see it that way. Anyway, I brought my CO2 canister PFD with me and the agent at initial screening made me take the cartridge out and it deployed filling up the PFD. I was effing pissed off. If these clowns have not seen it, it doesn't get through. I have brought it on domestic flights as well as thru PTY before to Columbia and never had an issue. It simply amazes me that these guys do not know the rules they are trying to enforce. There must be a rule if you haven't seen it before then it didn't get through. And I know what you all are thinking. It is on TSA's website that you can bring one Cartridge in the PFD and a spare cartridge.

Lodging:

Stayed at Bocas Paradise Hotel in BDT. Right smack dab in the middle of town, water taxi depot's on either side of the hotel. Adequate enough hotel for about $70 per night. It had everything I needed, hot water, cold air conditioner, no problem with a Favorita coming to visit on the Friday night. I heard some bad reviews about the noise from the disco to doors down to the left of the entrance of the hotel. So I requested and was given a room on the opposite side of that. The only time I heard the noise from the disco was when I got up to use the bathroom in the middle of the night. So I had no trouble sleeping. Breakfast was included and it was adequate as well, nothing fancy. Coffee available starting about 6:15 AM. Less than five minutes, $2 taxi ride away from the airport. When I went back to PTY, I stayed in an Airbnb owned by Irving, which was less than a 5 min walk to Caf Habanos. Very nice apartment in the Bancario district, hot water, cold air, a full kitchen, W&the. He even has refrigerator stocked with beer and bottled water for you at a price of course. I did not indulge in this but thought it was a nice touch. Chica friendly, night and day. I highly recommend it, I think $90 a day. 24 hour security who did not seem too friendly but barely lifted their head when I brought girls back.

Currency: They use US dollars in coins so there is no exchange rate to worry about. They also have the equivalent of our 50 Cent piece, quarter, dime, nickel and penny.

Fishing: if you're going to PAN just for the fishing, my recommendation is got to go to the Pacific side. All I caught day 1 was king mackerel which laid in the bottom of the boat and wasted while we were fishing. I landed nine the first day which was fun as at least I was catching. We stopped on some island to clean the macro on the way back in to BDT, and the meat on most of them had turned to mush as there was no ice chest on the boat. The boat was a water taxi converted into a trolling fishing boat. The first thing I asked the captain when I got on day 1 was "are you planning on catching fish today?" he said "yes why?" I asked where is the ice chest & he responded no we don't need one. Well I guess you don't if you don't want to eat the fish to catch. Anyway on day 2 the other captain had a small ice chest which was adequate for the one red snapper I caught while trolling, and a king fish, which I had the Cptn clean and I took those two fish to a restaurant and had them cook them for me and the Favorita that night. Very very good. On day 2 we landed 3 king mackerel, one Spanish mackerel the king fish and the red snapper. Not a lot of action but steady. I went through an outfit called Gambit Tours to line up the captains. Be careful of these guys. They are shysters probably just like everybody else down there. They told me that I was paying for a full day fishing and they told the captain on the first day that I just paid for a 1/2 day of fishing. When the captain on day 1 told me he was ready to go back at noon I asked him why, and he told me they told him it was only a half a day. I told him well we have a problem now because they told me a full day. Anyway I convinced him to fish for another couple hours and I was fine after that as all we were catching was king mackerel.

Food:

BDT- the first night in BDT I ate a hamburger restaurant next to the hotel called Brothers. Very good hamburger, very good service, highly recommended. Saturday night brought the fish to a little Artsy restaurant on the western end of the main street called BocArt. They prepared the fish for us, fried pargo Rojo and grilled the king fish. The charges $10 per fish, not really a bargain but whatever. It was good enough, a nice touch bringing your own fish to the market.

PTY- Ate at Caf Beruit close to Habanos & it did not disappoint. The Mixto Shawarma was awesome as usual. I even got one to go for the plane ride back home and it was awesome. Five star recommendation for the little Shawarma station on the side closest to Caf Habanos.

Monday night took a cab to the seafood market. Ate a whole fraud Corvina I think is what they called it. And it was awesome for $12. Again I highly recommend a visit to the seafood market and a whole fried fish for lunch or dinner. Well worth it!

Chicas:

BDT. I met a little Creole local Thursday afternoon on the street, got her phone number and she came over Fri afternoon for a pretty good $50 massage and HJ finish Friday after fishing. I drink so many beers it was hard to finish. My Favorita showed up Saturday afternoon after I was done fishing and stayed till Sunday about noon so $150 for TLN and three pops. Best to BYO in BDT because the P4 P is extremely weak or non-existent.

PTY. I mostly played the point and click game and had a couple of good sessions and a couple of bad sessions. As usual some of these girls use 5 yo photos for their Panescorts profile. Sunday and Monday night Caf Habano's started producing about nine to 9:30 PM. There were as many 8, 9's and 10's as you could handle, lots of spinners. Most of the girls were absolutely beautiful, very pretty in the face. Some pork chops but like I said, a lot of spinners. Pulled one Sunday night brought her back to the condo for $100. Good session, Not great but good. Monday daytime had three sessions with the point and click girls so I was spent. I went to Habanos but did not pull a girl. I just went window shopping. I think next trip I will just stick with her Habanos but I love the daytime game so we will see.

Take-home message is if you were going to BDT for fishing or Chicas, go somewhere else! BDT is full of "muchileros", what I consider hippie trash who are shirking their responsibilities in life. They don't have jobs, most have a Rasta hair, half of them don't have shoes, they can't tell you when they took their last shower, most of them beg, but they all have money for weed and drinks and stay up till 4 or 5 in the morning partying. I doubt I will ever be back to BDT and it will be a while before I go back to the PTY.

El Mechanico.

[El Mechanico]

I was on the neighboring island and someone broke into my over the water cottage and stole both my phones and some cash while I was eating at a nearby restaurant. I think the boatmen who took me over were watching me offshore and waiting for me to leave. Be careful there. Lots of thieves and low life hustlers.

Thanks for the heads up.

El Mechanico.

[Tomasb]

I was there last November. It's almost impossible to find P4 P there for tourists but it does seem to exist amongst the locals. There is nothing like Club Havana.

Though, you may want to ask some of the local guys about chicas. I went to this outdoor bar, which I think is called the Wreck or something similar. It hangs over the water with an outdoor porch over the water and a garden area as you enter. They had a DJ playing tunes the night I was there. When I entered there were two hot local girls in there, or at least Panamanian, but they met some guys who appeared to be local dudes. Just had a feeling these girls were on the take. Most of the local chicks in there though were fat and unattractive but on occasion you can stumble on a nice looking tourist. Many years ago, I was in this same outdoor club and met a fresh Columbia hooker who had just been boated over from Colombia earlier that day. Not sure if that still goes on or not. But she came back to my hotel for $40 for a short time romp. Might have been my first P4 P experience ever.

It was off season this mid November so pretty dead overall for night life, which did not help. I doubt if I will ever go there again. The infrastructure has not improved one bit since 12 year years ago when I first visited but the hotel and food prices are way up though the hotels along the water generally suck, cost too much, and are run down. I was on the neighboring island and someone broke into my over the water cottage and stole both my phones and some cash while I was eating at a nearby restaurant. I think the boatmen who took me over were watching me offshore and waiting for me to leave. Be careful there. Lots of thieves and low life hustlers.

I am posting this on the PTY thread as well as the other areas thread. I will be in BDT 4/25 - 4/28 then back to PTY 4/28 - 4/30. I will find out on my own but some advance intel would be awesome. Are there any bars / restaurants remotely close to Cafe Habanos in BDT. Any night life, any mongering places, MPS etc. Any help would be awesome.

TIA.

El Mechanico.

[El Mechanico]

I am posting this on the PTY thread as well as the other areas thread. I will be in BDT 4/25 - 4/28 then back to PTY 4/28 - 4/30. I will find out on my own but some advance intel would be awesome. Are there any bars / restaurants remotely close to Cafe Habanos in BDT. Any night life, any mongering places, MPS etc. Any help would be awesome.

TIA.

El Mechanico.

[Joe100]

Boquete: This is not really a reasonable review of Boquete. However, I did a day trip to Boquete. Someone on here had mentioned Bar Nacional. I visited. But it was early afternoon. They looked like indigenous guys that were there. Like I said, it's not a reasonable review. I'd imagine that if any girls do work out of there, they will be there late at night. Boquete is quite small so I can't imagine a whole lot going on.

David: Only aware of the one place. La Esmeralda. It's quite a ways out of town. It's $3. 50 in a taxi from town and in the early hours, I was charged $5 back (staying in an airbnb near the terminal). Which is fair enough. I got there just before 9 pm. Things were slow. It was very dark and not much in the way of atmosphere. Things got a bit busier later and they also started to strip at around 10. A few of the girls would come down from the stage and do a 'private dance' for a tip. But that only happened for a few times in the middle of the night.

The girls are all Colombian. They're all tall, well built girls. They're well experienced from the strip routine and in all other ways. . so much so that they're pretty clinical and cold. Hardened by the trade. Entry was $3. A beer was $2 and a chica drink was $5. To take a girl to the room, it was $25. She asked me for a propina up front to show her tits, etc. It was the end of the night when I made for it. And I just wanted to get my rocks off and go. Therefore, we didn't have the talk ref. What was included, excluded, etc. Anyway, I don't really enjoy the upsell. I told her afterwards. Propina.

Given all the riding she had been doing (I stayed for the whole of the night and the girls were busy. All of them), I assumed she'd be dry but she was wet. I ploughed the ass off her and got my rocks off. I don't know exactly what $25 dollars meant in terms of time. But I had been ploughing her missionary and she indicated that I needed to get a move on. We were not long there. I flipped her over and got my rocks off dogie style. She then hit me up for the propina. I gave her $2 but she was insistant on $5. Stuck to the $2. That was it in a nutshell. Nothing else to report.

By the way, as it's very much outside of town, you'll probably be wondering how the hell will I get a taxi home if I leave in the small hours. There were a couple of taxi's outside the place catering for that trade - So that won't be an issue.

[Jbj64]

I have been in David for 2 nights, I was told there a strip club Esmeraldas, have not gone. I did use the website wanuncios, there are a dozen or more ads. I called it up, my broken Spanish. Worked my way to use the WhatsApp so I could translate it. She gave me a general location, the Superbaru in Iva dos pinos. But had to have her come and get me from there. I guess if they want the business they will find a way to get you to their place. She asked if I wanted her to come to me but I am at a B&B type place and not think it would be appropriate. She was about a 6 or 7 not great but when I popped fast the first time she was more than willing get me a second time. So she made up for her looks in her eagerness to please. It was 60 for an hour and 10 for oral natural (BBBJ).

[Jbj64]

I have not seen any posts on David, has any had any luck there? I did see some online ads that had David chicas.

[Dickhead]

Was in Esmeralda last night. $3 admission, $1 beers, $22 for room and chica for 15 minutes. No economies of scale, meaning half an hour was $44. Music was incredibly loud. Strippers got fully naked and one walked around the place afterwards. Not many chicas. Went with one from Bogotá, Alejandra. Bolt ons, which I hate, no kissing, everything covered. Good BJ, though, considering it was CBJ. Nice girl. She said many girls bugged out to go to one girl-s birthday party. Plus we were there too early but that was my wing man-s call since he was driving. I am living in Boquete now and if I stay there I would probably go here once a month, but on the weekend. Place is clean and no one was looking at us funny although we were the only gringos in the place.

[Ilasan2]

i was here for 8 days and it took me 5 to find hookers. they are in bar nacionál which is on the street behind the plaza. go out the romero supermarket and turn right and it is on your right in the next block. any women in here by themselves can be assumed to be working. this place could be dangerous for rookies and you need spanish. this is the indian or indigenous local bar and there are lots of fights there. first gal turned out to be ****, second had no documento. third one i talked to i took to my room for $25. she was very beautiful if you like the indigenous look. had no experience and like many indigenous women, would not do oral sex and thought it was a perversion. beers are $1 here.

there were some cute local gals in the local bar tik'a which is just over the bridge and look left. or in other words, turn left coming from town and it is the second or third building on the right. this is the spanish local bar and indians are not welcome here. beers are $1. 25. none of the gals were working but maybe later at night, or maybe not. pool tables here. i had a mild problem with one local guy who wanted me to feed the jukebox but his buddies took care of it. i liked this place for just hanging around.

pretty town. a retirement haven for old gringos, none of whom have bothered to learn any spanish and who pretty much stay in their own little world. but there are some adventurous younger tourists here too and i did fuck a chubby gringa tourist from milwaukee.

up for this thread, thanks for the info about boquete.

[Dickhead]

i was here for 8 days and it took me 5 to find hookers. they are in bar nacionál which is on the street behind the plaza. go out the romero supermarket and turn right and it is on your right in the next block. any women in here by themselves can be assumed to be working. this place could be dangerous for rookies and you need spanish. this is the indian or indigenous local bar and there are lots of fights there. first gal turned out to be ****, second had no documento. third one i talked to i took to my room for $25. she was very beautiful if you like the indigenous look. had no experience and like many indigenous women, would not do oral sex and thought it was a perversion. beers are $1 here.

there were some cute local gals in the local bar tik'a which is just over the bridge and look left. or in other words, turn left coming from town and it is the second or third building on the right. this is the spanish local bar and indians are not welcome here. beers are $1. 25. none of the gals were working but maybe later at night, or maybe not. pool tables here. i had a mild problem with one local guy who wanted me to feed the jukebox but his buddies took care of it. i liked this place for just hanging around.

pretty town. a retirement haven for old gringos, none of whom have bothered to learn any spanish and who pretty much stay in their own little world. but there are some adventurous younger tourists here too and i did fuck a chubby gringa tourist from milwaukee.

[Dickhead]

To each his own but I do not drive in third world countries. Just not worth the risk. David is very similar to hell in my opinion and I would not spend one minute more than necessary there. The climate is unbearable to me.