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[Pessimist]

Sweden's elevated death rate is a a result of its low testing rate. Increase testing and the death rate will decrease. Basic math unless your name is Donald J. Trump.

Deaths will happen regardless, because some infected people will die. More testing means more of the infected people will be confirmed to have the virus. If have zero tests the country will have zero confirmed infections but it does not mean those people are not getting infected, nor does it mean they will not die. Likewise, if a country tests every single citizen does not mean magically no one will die.

Theoretically if a country does a huge amount of testing, and isolates all the infected people in a strict quarantine, then over a few weeks, infection rates will come down and so will the number of people who will die.

[Polyamorist]

Only deploy girls that were provable immune against covid-19.
* how can a girl get infected-- in my theory, the government should run a self-infection program (guess what many would do this. Because then. Once immunce. They could all run / operate / use bars, discos, nightclubs, restaurants).

Salaam Kuni,

Not a bad idea as half-assed ideas go. A young woman really has a tiger of an immune system -- it's there to protect the baby in the womb -- so her chances of dying are virtually nil. The old farts she sleeps with may not be so lucky.

From this perspective there might be sense in trying to develop a program of planned infection culminating in FHI (FKK Hored Immunity). This would also imply maintaining a truck of Corona-fired studs to go around to all the FKKs and infect the girls. I wonder what number item this is on Angela Merkel's priority list right now.

[Pistons]

With your education, you really think Japan is like China? One can think what they want, but if so, that would really show the level of your education or level of university you went to.

Japan is not hiding number, we are not testing everyone on purpose to protect health care system so that they can treat people, which lead to low death rate. Look at Europe and USA, the reason for high death is that medical system was destroyed due to over capacity of patients.

Infection rates are something media is playing because it sells fear and that is how they make money and I do think pr companies are paid by financial institutions who are shorting stocks to write more fear.

What we have to focus on is death rate to avoid people from dying.

Well, I've actually studied at a top 5 or top 3 Asian university at graduate level. Not that it matters.

But there is a cultural difference in relation to fear of authorities. If you as a worker show below average results, your chances to get a promotion falls rapidly. Of course this has been taken even further in China with its 1 party ruling system. But it is also a pan-east-Asian ideology stemming from Confucianism, Taoism and even Shintoism.

Hiding is also an elusive term. You can either directly hide something, or you can deliberately look away. I have sometimes also myself used the cliche of doing something I was not allowed to in order to reach my goal. Then later knowing I would be told it was not allowed. While also knowing that it is easier to get pardoned than get allowed to do something. In this case, Japan is just like China hiding the numbers by refusing to test people. While looking away, or knowing that the incubation time can be as high as 24 days. So it can get worse, and worse and worse. That is another reason why you test people as soon as they show symptoms. And even asymptomatic people can be contagious to others. So it is essential to the long term goal of stopping this. Testing of the entire population is also a key to stopping this in terms of herd immunity. Because you want to know when you can reopen society at large.

Safety of health personnel is only a matter of systems and how to operate it. So I don't buy this as an argument. Japan is as you say not China. But if that argument held any truth, it would be like saying Japan is like Congo. And I don't think that either.

I know Japanese are overly scared of these viruses however, and I saw some silly Tokyo graduation event. But these things seems to a foreigner to be overplaying it, and used as a sales trick in a Confucianism / Shinto way to try and project the idea that Japanese people are better than everyone else. Nothing else.

[Akibono]

Only deploy girls that were provable immune against covid-19.

* Those girls could have tried to get covid-19-infected already end-of March.

* only those girls would have chosen to do without any serious pre-condition (no diabetes, no asthma, no heart-condition, no autoimmune disease, all younger then 25 yrs).

* the mortality of those girls (I am lacking sound numbers, so I am just guessing), would have been something like 1 in 10000 or even less.

Now this would be good, right? I can protect myself against fellow-mongers much more easily compared to the girls.

Of course seveal problems here:

* how can a girl get infected-- in my theory, the government should run a self-infection program (guess what many would do this. Because then. Once immunce. They could all run / operate / use bars, discos, nightclubs, restaurants).

* even more difficult: how to proof if someone was 100% infected.

First, you should read an article about why it is dangerous and stupid to infect yourself. You are either selfish or expect the girl to be stupid. Second, just because a girl has some immunity does not make her safe in any way. If she goes with a asymptomatic punter before you, her contamination will easily infect you. This virus is highly transmissible. Also, if she is immune, she has no incentive to adequately disinfect herself before you. In most clubs, the girls don't even fully shower between clients. Don't dream. Follow the science. If you want to partake, pay up and go with an escort that is not seeing 10+ people a day in a highly contaminated environment. Don't this that towel that is put on the bed will protect you from that infected punter before you. To be safe, everyone entering the club must pass a test. Do you think that is likely?

[Pistons]

It mutates. So total immunity is a hoax. Same as vaccines. But genes and bloodtypes can help. Maybe also some immune cells from closely related mutations may help. But that is still just assumptions so far.

[Kuni042]

Only deploy girls that were provable immune against covid-19.

* Those girls could have tried to get covid-19-infected already end-of March.

* only those girls would have chosen to do without any serious pre-condition (no diabetes, no asthma, no heart-condition, no autoimmune disease, all younger then 25 yrs).

* the mortality of those girls (I am lacking sound numbers, so I am just guessing), would have been something like 1 in 10000 or even less.

Now this would be good, right? I can protect myself against fellow-mongers much more easily compared to the girls.

Of course seveal problems here:

* how can a girl get infected-- in my theory, the government should run a self-infection program (guess what many would do this. Because then. Once immunce. They could all run / operate / use bars, discos, nightclubs, restaurants).

* even more difficult: how to proof if someone was 100% infected.

[McGrath]

Sweden's elevated death rate is a a result of its low testing rate. Increase testing and the death rate will decrease. Basic math unless your name is Donald J. Trump.

You obviously don't understand how this works.

[DasBooty]

Sweden's elevated death rate is a a result of its low testing rate. Increase testing and the death rate will decrease. Basic math unless your name is Donald J. Trump.

[ShooBree]

I wouldn't bother trying to explain this to him Delta Indigo. He has pretty much hammered the same points without looking at anything that goes against what he believes.

Sweden's infected rate per million is not that far behind other hard hit countries and despite what he keeps saying, the government is considering harsher measures as COVID-19 becomes a bigger problem for the country.

https://time.com/5817412/sweden-coronavirus/

The coronavirus is a giant problem for the Swedish economy, otherwise not so much. I know that many people in other countries wishes that they had the freedom that we have in Sweden.

The government haven't done much and the changes they are contemplating are small stuff like closing down certain bars and restaurants. As I, unlike you, live in Sweden and actually read and follow the news closely, I can safely say that you don't know what you are talking about.

Sweden's infected rate per million is lower than the one of Norway, Denmark, Israel, Austria and the list goes on, so please refrain from spreading disinformation.

[Pessimist]

This report just appeared in The Guardian online newspaper:

"A group of would-be holidaymakers who flew in a private jet from London to France have been turned back. Seven men and three women arrived on the chartered aircraft to Marseille-Provence airport, where helicopters were waiting to fly them on to Cannes, where they had rented a luxury villa.
The men, aged 40-50, and women, aged 23-25, were ....... made up of several nationalities including Croatian, German, French, Romanian and Ukrainian. "

My bet is that the three 23-25 year olds are Romanian (or Ukrainian) girls.

It didn't work but if it had, that is money better spent than wasting it on renting those useless VIP rooms at these FKKs.

[Pessimist]

BTW, Germany is suddenly moving up the chart. Total cases shot up from 71,000 to 120,000 and # deaths from 700+ by almost 3 to 4 times to 2600+. This is just in 10 days!!

For any European or Japanese person to celebrate how their country has beaten the virus or how that makes them superior is so premature.

[PaulInZurich]

This report just appeared in The Guardian online newspaper:

"A group of would-be holidaymakers who flew in a private jet from London to France have been turned back. Seven men and three women arrived on the chartered aircraft to Marseille-Provence airport, where helicopters were waiting to fly them on to Cannes, where they had rented a luxury villa.
The men, aged 40-50, and women, aged 23-25, were ....... made up of several nationalities including Croatian, German, French, Romanian and Ukrainian. "

My bet is that the three 23-25 year olds are Romanian (or Ukrainian) girls.

That is just wrong, only 3 women. Unless there were another 20 girls waiting for them in Cannes.

[Mr Ho]

This report just appeared in The Guardian online newspaper:

"A group of would-be holidaymakers who flew in a private jet from London to France have been turned back. Seven men and three women arrived on the chartered aircraft to Marseille-Provence airport, where helicopters were waiting to fly them on to Cannes, where they had rented a luxury villa.
The men, aged 40-50, and women, aged 23-25, were ....... made up of several nationalities including Croatian, German, French, Romanian and Ukrainian. "

My bet is that the three 23-25 year olds are Romanian (or Ukrainian) girls.

Even monger me is not mongering during this time, but these guys got gut if your assumption is right and I think the same as you about these people LOL.

[TankTank123]

This report just appeared in The Guardian online newspaper:

"A group of would-be holidaymakers who flew in a private jet from London to France have been turned back. Seven men and three women arrived on the chartered aircraft to Marseille-Provence airport, where helicopters were waiting to fly them on to Cannes, where they had rented a luxury villa.
The men, aged 40-50, and women, aged 23-25, were ....... made up of several nationalities including Croatian, German, French, Romanian and Ukrainian. "

My bet is that the three 23-25 year olds are Romanian (or Ukrainian) girls.

[Pessimist]

It seems to me that this virus is bringing to boil a lot of nationalistic passions on this forum that have generally stayed hidden hitherto. The French feel their system is superior, the Japanese claim their system is superior, the Swedish feel they are superior and so forth. This type of bickering is unfortunate. The virus originated in China and has moved around the world fast. No one has truly defeated the virus yet. It is a virus if it exists in one part of the world can still pose a threat to people in other areas of the world until we find a cure and a vaccine. In my view, it is too early and premature to be celebrating and chest thumping that you are superior. We Americans have suffered a lot and when I talk to my friends here, even all the upper middle class folks who have been safely staying home, working from home, and are very comfortable, there is a deep sense of anxiety, melancholy and sadness in everyone. Even the ones who prudently got out of investments early on and staved off the losses are not celebrating. People are just sad at the loss of so many lives.