St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Alz55]

I just got back from SXM and thank to all the info I got from this website, damn I made a right choice to go there. Simply it is the 'pleasure island' in every sense of that word.

Rented a car at airport and drove to hotel. Renting a car is a must if you do not intend to stay around hotel. It's not hard getting around and finding places if you do little research on your own.

Here's the summary of each place I visited:

Seaman's:

Parking is easy as there's plenty right in front. Place is little dark and sort of small. Once you come by the bar, girls will approach you for drink. There were about 15-20 girls mostly Columbian. I had 3 girls from there and it's my favorite place. Girls are hot and if you do not keep in mind that this is all p2p scenery, you can fall for a girl easy. Yes, girls are that seductive. Second night I had a drink by bar and fairly quickly I felt a connection with girl. I had a gut feeling she had too and went for a half hr session but ended up being over an hour. DFK / BBBJ. She really did enjoy it and asked only I pay the room $3 for extra time. Of course I tipped her well. Next night she said hello, hang out for drink but did not seem happy that I went with different girl later. She even came to my friend to complain about not picking her. Word of advice: keep emotions out of it and see it as fun for $ only.

Carolinas:

Seems as its 99% Columbian chicas here. There are like 30-40 girls currently and at times they get little aggressive and competitive with each other. Went there here during the day also and it's not a same experience – I just prefer nighttime. Had 4 girls from here and can say that service varied for me – there are girls that give you amazing service and remember you, while there are ones that see you as number. I always have a drink with girl and if I see no connection, politely decline and go after the next you like. If there's no connection once you meet, experience in room is usually awful and all mechanical. Girls can be aggressive / pushy but you got to learn how to say politely No to girl if you are not interested else you'll be wasting your $ and time.

Casablanca / Petite Chateau / El Capitan – went there for a drink and did not see much potential. I prefer lighter skin petite girls and most of them are in Carolinas / Seaman's.

Overall – it was an awesome experience and I am so glad I made decision to go. Girls are just HOT, SEXY and it's hard to find the right words to describe the experience.

I surely will be back soon and want to thank everyone on ISG for their help in making this trip possible!

Cheers!

[ClubTed]

Chesterfields is near and dear to my heart having dined there the first time I visited the island during a family vacation. The Greenhouse. The other way from the dock. Seems to have a decent menu. A couple of pool tables in open air. May cater to the tourists, but seems to be a fun place on the east end of downtown Phillipsburg.

I will get the ball started. Although I don't go out at night to eat very much in St Maarten, the last time I really enjoyed

Bamboo Bernie's: sushi and asian fusion. Fun place. Lots of pretty girls to look at too! Not too expensive.

Maho Plaza. Maho, St. Maarten. 2nd floor in the mall on the main drag, near Platinum Club.

Phone: +599 545 3622.

Lunch: Kakao Beach Restaurant and Bar. Orient Bay. Excellent french food, good wine, little private huts with tables for you and your girl. I have taken pairs of girls from the clubs there for lunch many times. Then get some chairs and chill on the beach. After dark the beach area is dead.

Dinner near the clubs with easy parking: Chesterfield Marina on the way to the cruise ship dock, has free wifi, reasonable food. Open for breakfast and lunch also.

Dinner on the French side, Grand Case. Lots of great restaurants on the main waterfront drag. I had good dinner last time at Auberge Gourmand, but there are many more. There are parking lots now, street parking is difficult.

Next?

-zing

[Muata8]

That was at Casablanca. It was either the owner or his son. But it seemed that the club was already slowing down before that happened. I'm sure that the murder was the final straw in it's decline.

Hello all. I'm a newbie to ISG. My first-time offshore straight-up p4p mongering was last November at Casablanca (report forthcoming). (I'm born in, raised in, and have been married {and divorced} twice in America to America women, so obviously I've been paying dearly for mediocre, grudgingly given pussy from self-absorbed, insecure, anally retentive women all my life, LOL.) Glad to now be part of a forum that's fully supportive and respects this beautiful place. Count me among the number.

I rode around with an American friend and locals close to the family and got what I believe was the real scoop on the owner's son's murder-actually committed in a car at point-blank range in front of the club on the road. Didn't hear anything about Mom's involvement, but the murderer is well-known and is laying low elsewhere in the Caribbean. Some people have long memories about these kinds of tragedies, so this saga may not be over.

Casablanca, if finished out properly and run well, could be a game changer in the business. Defiance has the potential as well. Both have enough space for a true resort product, with hotel suites, pools, spas, nightclub, gym and food all on one property. Like Blackbeard's in the DR taken to an entirely different level Train the girls to give great service like they do in Thailand. Make it up-market, ultra safe, and charge appropriately. It could be the ultimate mongering destination. Then get the producers of the Cathouse Series on HBO to do a reality show. It would be a gold mine.

I agree, Pogostick. I think the murder delayed execution of plans to improve the club. I met the family members and had a drink or two with them-really good people. They understand the potential Casablanca has and seem to be operating it while making incremental improvements (like launching an improved website & adding multiple VIP / pole stations) and involving themselves in a fact-gathering/"due diligence" process that's necessary before committing the finances to take to club to the next level.

I'm rooting for them. It was a great place to lose my p4p virginity, so to speak. I'll be back after the high season ends.

I love to dance. Call me crazy, but I'm seriously thinking about spending a couple of nights in one of the Casablanca 'suites' and adapting myself to the "*house timeclock"-get to the club with the girls, then dance, drink, fuck, eat, sleep on their schedule (the music stops at about 6a) with my HQ right upstairs.

Damn! Heavenly for me! My dick gets hard just thinking about it.

Muata

[Vitrea]

Hey Vitrea,

Well, thanks for asking. You are thinking something in the line of what Hillbilly has done for the Colombia thread? I am not sure I could do the bars and restaurants justice actually. As you know there are more than 300 bars & restaurants spread around our tiny pleasure island. And as for women and hotels, tastes, budgets and needs differ from guy to guy. But sure, I could do something for the lazy suggesting one recommended place to go in each part of the island (Simpson Bay, Orient Bay, Maho, Phillipsburg, Marigot, Grand Case).

More importantly I think a guide to regular nightlife on the island would be even more useful, as larger parts of the island can be dead after 11pm. In this case "need to know" is crucial.

It would even be better if we made a collaberation among the vets & other interested, I. E. Making some sort of joint report on "mongers advice on where to dine and wine in SXM". That would be something! Those who are interested to join should feel free to pm me with your suggestions or make a separate report.

I am working on a couple of more reports which I am hoping to release in the next weeks (time permitting). Next on service standards in the clubs. Maybe something about the strip clubs too.

Cheers,

S16.

Thanking Mel & Zing for their many good reports and advice over the years. It's been a pleasure following in your footsteps.

Shark, You read my mind. Compilation is a greta idea. Looks like Zing already started it. I do like your idea of collecting this info and make a post with a list and adding it ROD.

My suggestions:

Breakfast in Pburg: The french place in the pedestrian alley that connects front street to the back street, closer to the back street. I will search for the name. He serves awesome coffee and very good omelets, croissants etc. Owner is cool, laid back and has a very good sense of humor.

I like Holland house's restaurant for dinner. The modern ambiance and lighting is very good. Food is good though I think it is a bit pricey.

Bliss is my favorite dance club. The outdoor setting is nice.

[Zing23]

I am not sure I could do the bars and restaurants justice actually. As you know there are more than 300 bars & restaurants spread around our tiny pleasure island.

I will get the ball started. Although I don't go out at night to eat very much in St Maarten, the last time I really enjoyed

Bamboo Bernie's: sushi and asian fusion. Fun place. Lots of pretty girls to look at too! Not too expensive.

Maho Plaza. Maho, St. Maarten. 2nd floor in the mall on the main drag, near Platinum Club.

Phone: +599 545 3622.

Lunch: Kakao Beach Restaurant and Bar. Orient Bay. Excellent french food, good wine, little private huts with tables for you and your girl. I have taken pairs of girls from the clubs there for lunch many times. Then get some chairs and chill on the beach. After dark the beach area is dead.

Dinner near the clubs with easy parking: Chesterfield Marina on the way to the cruise ship dock, has free wifi, reasonable food. Open for breakfast and lunch also.

Dinner on the French side, Grand Case. Lots of great restaurants on the main waterfront drag. I had good dinner last time at Auberge Gourmand, but there are many more. There are parking lots now, street parking is difficult.

Next?

-zing

[Shark16]

S16, nice report. I added it to ROD.

When you find some time, can you please post about your favourite restaurants for lunch and dinner and who did you use for Scuba?

We could use a review of the west side strip clubs as well as there are very few post on that topic. Thanks again.

Hey Vitrea,
Well, thanks for asking. You are thinking something in the line of what Hillbilly has done for the Colombia thread? I am not sure I could do the bars and restaurants justice actually. As you know there are more than 300 bars & restaurants spread around our tiny pleasure island. And as for women and hotels, tastes, budgets and needs differ from guy to guy. But sure, I could do something for the lazy suggesting one recommended place to go in each part of the island (Simpson Bay, Orient Bay, Maho, Phillipsburg, Marigot, Grand Case).

More importantly I think a guide to regular nightlife on the island would be even more useful, as larger parts of the island can be dead after 11pm. In this case "need to know" is crucial.

It would even be better if we made a collaberation among the vets & other interested, I. E. Making some sort of joint report on "mongers advice on where to dine and wine in SXM". That would be something! Those who are interested to join should feel free to pm me with your suggestions or make a separate report.

I am working on a couple of more reports which I am hoping to release in the next weeks (time permitting). Next on service standards in the clubs. Maybe something about the strip clubs too.

Cheers,
S16
Thanking Mel & Zing for their many good reports and advice over the years. It's been a pleasure following in your footsteps.

[Shark16]

I liked Seamans 2. 0 better than 2. 1. Climbing that "Stairway to Heaven" behind a couple of girls was always a pleasure to the eyes. There were plenty of chairs in a larger room so more chicas tended to hang out in there. Now, in 2. 1, there is not much room for them to hang out in the bar.

And you're right. The music should be softer. I think I would probably stay in the bar longer, buying more drinks, if it was less painful to be there.

Pogo

Oh man, I am so with you on the Stairway thing!!! The hotel part of Seaman's still has two floors of course. A couple of my favourites happened to live upstairs, so I know EXACTLY what you mean. Could I leave those swaying hips alone? No, I couldn't. And then the look, smile and giggling from her. THAT would definetely make my heart sing. Thanks for taking me back!

I totally share your view on Seaman's 1. 0,2. 0 and 2. 1. And it's just a few minor changes, and the new 2. 1 bar could work perfectly. Hope they do something about it.

Cheers.

[Mel365]

Shark,

very good report.

Mel

[Vitrea]

The skinny on Casa Blanca is that the son of the owner was killed in the parking lot of Casa Blanca. It is rumored that his mother ordered the hit as he was also dealing and did not cut her into the action.

Mel

Now, that is a Hollywood story.

[Buck On89]

Took cab to caroline's. Work deal with cabbie. $25 each way, $10 per 30 min waiting time.

The cab driver I got (the guy at the hotel desk referred me) would drive me from club to club. Plus, he went into the clubs with me and also waited for me while I got serviced. He made a great body guard. I don't think I spent more than $60 for the night of being taxied around, plus tip. I was staying at Orient Beach so it was a long drive.

After my first trip to the island and the fact that he gave me a tour of the whole island, I was very comfortable renting a taxi from there on in.

In the evening, for taxi drivers, anything they make at night is gravy since their money making times are during the day with people going to and from the airport or docks. So I suggest you negotiate. Plus he gave me a few good suggestions (regarding chicas) since I was new to the island.

[Mel365]

The skinny on Casa Blanca is that the son of the owner was killed in the parking lot of Casa Blanca. It is rumored that his mother ordered the hit as he was also dealing and did not cut her into the action.

Mel

[Vitrea]

Sorry about being late with this report.

About a month ago I spent another terrific time on the island. Apart from sailing, exploring the beaches, tropical drinks, lazying in the sun, scuba diving, enjoying extraordinary good food, and generally enjoying the tranquil experience of this paradise island, I once again managed to find time to explore the clubs. Not really difficult. .

I have been on the island before, so I sort of knew what to expect. But let's give a quick overview for the firsttimer:

S16, nice report. I added it to ROD.

When you find some time, can you please post about your favourite restaurants for lunch and dinner and who did you use for Scuba?

We could use a review of the west side strip clubs as well as there are very few post on that topic. Thanks again.

[PogoStick]

Someone correct me if I am totally off base here but am I correct when I recollect that CB's or Defiance's owner's son got killed a couple of years ago?

That was at Casablanca. It was either the owner or his son. But it seemed that the club was already slowing down before that happened. I'm sure that the murder was the final straw in it's decline. In contrast, the murder of the owner of Campo hasn't seem to hurt business or upkeep at all. It keeps on cruising along looking better every time.

Casblanca, if finished out properly and run well, could be a game changer in the business. Defiance has the potential as well. Both have enough space for a true resort product, with hotel suites, pools, spas, nightclub, gym and food all on one property. Like Blackbeard's in the DR taken to an entirely different level Train the girls to give great service like they do in Thailand. Make it up-market, ultra safe, and charge appropriately. It could be the ultimate mongering destination. Then get the producers of the Cathouse Series on HBO to do a reality show. It would be a gold mine.

I scare myself sometimes.

Pogo

[PogoStick]

Shark,

Great report! I'm still nostalgic for the original Seamans. It was seedy and the smell of history made the floor sticky, but it was everything an old-time island brothel should be. I liked Seamans 2. 0 better than 2. 1. Climbing that "Stairway to Heaven" behind a couple of girls was always a pleasure to the eyes. There were plenty of chairs in a larger room so more chicas tended to hang out in there. Now, in 2. 1, there is not much room for them to hang out in the bar.

And you're right. The music should be softer. I think I would probably stay in the bar longer, buying more drinks, if it was less painful to be there.

But over-all, your report is right on the money with a good update of the basics.

Pogo

[Shark16]

Sorry about being late with this report.

About a month ago I spent another terrific time on the island. Apart from sailing, exploring the beaches, tropical drinks, lazying in the sun, scuba diving, enjoying extraordinary good food, and generally enjoying the tranquil experience of this paradise island, I once again managed to find time to explore the clubs. Not really difficult.

I have been on the island before, so I sort of knew what to expect. But let's give a quick overview for the firsttimer:

This tiny little tropical island has 11 clubs with adult entertainment located in two separate areas:

There are 3 'strip clubs' in the tourist area of Maho / Simpson Bay. In my book they are ok for watching the exotic dancers dance (at stage or a private dance) , but terrible for further sexual activities with their outrageous pricing and questionable service standards. Not worth the money IMHO.

You will find the real value for money in the 8 'chica bars' located pretty much along the same two miles (four kilometres) long road from Phillipsburg to Oyster Pond - with the heaviest concentration around Suckergarden with its four clubs in a sort of industrial area at the outskirts of Phillipsburg. Sessions starting at $30- 50 (or $300 + 70 for a TLN). Quality of line-up vary from club to club (see below) , but the best optic quality chica bars are easily on par with the strip clubs at Maho / Simpson Bay IMO.

The chica bars have pretty much similar set-up: They are clubs with a bar as a meeting area with girls dancing and cheap drinks ($2 for a beer or a soft drink; $5 for a 'chica drink') , and rooms in the back for private affairs. 98% of the girls are from Colombia and Dominican Rep. ; usually with a Dominican domination. Two exceptions to this rule: Carolina's and Seaman's, which both usually have around 95% colombianas.

I guess I am like most of the guys here. I got to check most of the clubs, but still find myself spending most of my time in Carolina's and Seaman's. This is basically due to:
• My preference for Colombianas.
• Nostalgia. Looking back these two clubs always had the hottest line-ups and sweetest experiences for me. I was not let down.
• Better rooms / air-condition.
• Favourable reports on ISG!

Carolina's vs. Seaman's.

Two popular clubs. I did not try to negotiate the standard rate of $50 which guarantee CBJ and MPOS sex.

Carolina had around 25 girls. Seaman's around 15. A few Seaman's girls complained about the number of girls saying that the larger line-up at Carolina's attracted more guys and thus making it easier to make good money at Carolina's. Then the week before Christmas many new girls arrived at Seaman's making it more even (20- 25 girls in both clubs). I am not up to date with the situation right now.

Having read recent reports that the line-up at Carolina' was that much superior, I was a little let down by my first impression. Too many chicas with silicon / gel in their butts in my book. In some cases it just looked oversized and ridiculous. Not my thing at all. So the first few days I had much more fun over at Seaman's: Tania, Angie, Carolina, Yoly, Melissa, Lina, Monica.

Then again, I just knew I may have missed a few faces on my first visits to Carolina's and needed to go back several times. Popular girls are often missing in high season due to take-outs.

After some time the Carolina line-up grew on me: Loreena (not to be confused with Lorena) , Vanessa (there are two of them) , Marcela (who left before Christmas) , Ana-Maria, Andrea, Alba, Sandra, Carolina, Heidi, Marta, Lucy, Nicole, Patricia. Add a few pretty girls that I never got to talk to because of take-outs. At the end of my stay I can agree with those who say Carolina's have the hottest line-up, but Seaman's is really not that far behind IMHO.

I enjoy both day- and night visits. Daytime is more relaxed; that is true. Less clock-watching, less men and better F / M ratios. But the clubs have more of a party feel to them at night. More cheers, singing and dancing. Also, the girls dress up a little for the night, put on their best make-up, the nicest dresses, ++. In particular in the weekend the sight of the girls can be really breathtaking, they are really in a party mood and good spirit, which some of them bring with them into the room. But true, some girls get stressed and in "dollar mood", so it is important to make the right pick. Take your time!

For those who have not visited the clubs at night it may be interesting to hear a description of the rhythm of the night. Sure, each club has a different vibe, and it pays to explore the clubs to find the one that suits you best. But let's use Carolina as an example:

The girls have their siesta from 4- 8 pm. In earlier days the girls had to check in at the bar at 8 pm to avoid the multa, which made it a grand time to be there to check the line-up. This does not seem to be the case anymore. At 8 pm the bar is basically empty. The first few girls start showing up at 8:15 – 8:30, just to disappear through the side door to the restaurant. I found the restaurant to be a great place to be between 08:15- 9pm, as this is where the girls gather for a light meal before nighttime acitivities. The best part is that the lighting of the restaurant is much better than the bar, so you can have a really good look at the line-up.

At 9pm there could be 7- 10 girls in the restaurant and a few more in the bar, and the rest would arrive shortly thereafter. Some will leave for TLN, but shortly after 9pm the bar would be full of chicas. But no men! A great time to make your first pick of the night.

Coming back at 10pm the bar would crowded with both men and chicas. This is when the party started, and it would last until midnight most of the time (sometimes longer). Happy times!

Seaman's would generally be more quieter. It still remains one of my favourite clubs on the island. One thing is the great line-up, but also because the rooms at Seaman's are more spacious, has the best kingsize beds and aircon superior to any other bar on the island.

The old bar at Seaman's is gone (SM MKII). So is the restaurant. Most girls at Seaman's seem to order their food from the Chinese restaurant next to Carolina's.

I am a bit critical to the new bar though. It is way to dark (much darker than the two previous locations and other bars on the island). Frankly it is impossible to observe the line-up and making a decent decision in the dark. In addition the music is too loud, and the girls will avoid the place unless the guys are showing up. I always had to insist taking a girl out of the bar to have a decent conversation and look before making a commitment. Much nicer to talk with the chicas in daytime (they are sitting outside between the new bar and the old entrance) or in their siesta, when they are often to be found talking together in the coach behind the old entrance to the hotel part of the building.

I would have spent much more time at Seaman's if they had made the bar brighter and less loud. Not many other guys there too, and I wonder if many guys feel the same as me. If so, management should know that by improving these two factors they could attract a lot more business. I hope they do.

Hottest girls on the island: Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but in my book:
- Heidi at Carolina's: All natural and stunningly beautiful! Very sweet personality. Great smile.
- Monica and Lina at Seaman's.

They were all decent in bed, but I am not saying that they all provided the best sex on the island. Trusted seniors can pm me for details.

Marcela and Katalina (from Carolina's) and Yoly have now left the island. I do not have exact details, but I got the impression that most of the girls in attendance in December would be there until end of February taking as much advantage of high season as they possibly could.

Funny thing. One day I visited my regular at Seaman's, and she knew exactly which three I had banged the night before girls at Carolina's. Haha! Those days when you could secretly move from one club to another are gone. It's well-known that these two clubs now have same management and therefore the chicas know each other better than before. So be nice and think twice about what the girls are doing with their I-Phones!

Other clubs.

I also visited Crystal Club (15 girls) , Petit Chateau (25 girls) , El Capitan (15- 20 girls) and Defiance (10 girls) , but on this trip I found the line-ups to be subpar to what I found at Seaman's / Carolina's. General impression was 'too big'. Not a surprise, but I have always found a jewel or two in each camp when I have had a second look. Not this time.

Am I doing the line-ups at these clubs justice? Probably not. I did not visit as many times as I probably should to have the complete line-up verified, and I usually visited after a Carolina's / Seaman's visit with reduced sexual drive in me.

Of the four clubs, I thought El Capitan had best potential. In particular one girl caught my attention (Emily / Emilie?) with her beautiful eyes and smile and the rest to go with it. She reminded me a bit of my all time favourite that I met at Defiance in 2008. But the girl lacked the sensuality and tranquillity of my former girl. And she needed to sober up a little, so I made a pass.

I did go with two girls from Crystal Club and Petite Chateau. Both slightly above average looking (but far from as hot as the chicas at Seaman's / Carolina's) , and service standards seemed to be a bit higher than in Carolina's / Seaman's (but note my limited experience in these clubs).

In these four clubs I was quoted $40 at night and $30 in daytime by many of the girls. So if you can find a beautiful girl for your taste with decent service, then you might find value for money here. I did not, but to be fair I did not spend much time to investigate.

I did not visit Casablanca or Sunset Retreat on this trip and have nothing on these two clubs. I probably should have paid Casablanca a visit (ref. The recent positive reports).

I did visit the strip clubs (Platinum, Golden Eyes, Bada Bing) , but solely for the dancing, as I find the pricing for p4p outrageous. I was not impressed with the line-up. Maybe I will write a separate report on this later.

... and just to make it clear: I wasn't there to marry anyone at the strip clubs!

Again, the island felt pretty secure when I visited (day and night). I always drove a car and took normal precautions. There is a sign in the restroom at Carolina's encouraging patrons NOT to walk between Seaman's and Carolina's, despite the short distance, as have been repeated here several times. There is security outside most of the clubs (at least at night). I found it easy to park by the clubs. Not mentioned here (I think) is the new southern wall outside Seaman's making parking inside the wall in front of the club feel spacious and secure.

St. Martin simply remains my paradise island in the sun. I will be back; trust me!

Cheers,
S16