Santo Domingo

[Mr Enternational]

All 3 places were okay. But when I walk around during daytime almost all reasonably aged girls (20-24 for me personally, I'm in my early 30's) look like straight up 10's in comparison to the working girls I have seen so far.

Am I missing something?

You might be missing that it is all in how a Domimican chick fixes herself up. The chicks at the casas are going ready for work (fuck), not ready to stunt. Try out Casa Teresa, but really a big difference is hair and makeup when talking about how good some chick looks over another. I personally like to see chicks basic without all that shit on so I really know what I have on my hands. Here is an example of the same chick and the difference you could be seeing to make you think these chicks are 3 times better than these other ones.

For years another board member had been going to Thailand into the gogo bars spending all types of money partying and taking chicks out of there. For years I had been saying you could get those same chicks when they are out and about everyday for 3 to 5 times less before they go to work. People said I was crazy. They acted like these chicks were some kind of vampires that only came out at night and went straight from their secret lair through a tunnel that lead to the clubs.

No mf. You are just getting caught up in glitz and glamour and the thought of she must be this high on the bar because she works at a club. Not until the pandemic closed all those clubs did that brother realize I had been right all the while. He was meeting the exact same damn chicks as before, but now online and out and about and they would come see him for 3 to 5 times less. The difference would be that they would show up with like pajamas and flip-flops on and their hair pulled back (ready to fuck, not ready to stunt), but it was the same damn chicks that he had been seeing and partaking in from the clubs before.

[Argo1990]

So I touched down in Santo Domingo last night. Went to 3 places already:

GBP, A Casa that was recommended to me by someoneon the forum and Foxys.

Now the girls are not that bad. Not a huge fan of fucking a girl on a couch in the back of some shady looking brothel / bar but that could easily be overlooked if the girls w3 re 8+ at least. All 3 places were okay. But when I walk around during daytime almost all reasonably aged girls (20-24 for me personally, I'm in my early 30's) look like straight up 10's in comparison to the working girls I have seen so far.

Am I missing something? Going to the wrong places? I'm okay with paying 500-1000 pesos premium if that helps but so far I am kinda disappointed to be honest.

The women in general can be super beautiful but in terms of p2 p I have to say there is an enormous gap between what is out there and what can be conveniently accessed.

[GrownMan1]

Agree 100%. Cali gets a lot of the chocolate chicas due to proximity to Buenaventura. That seed had been planted generations ago.

Felt like a bones connoisseur when Everyone prefers looking for meat. I'll take all the bones most will leave behind.

[Zippy42]

I can only imagine having a group of nine guys with me while I'm in Cali. What a major cluster fuck that would be. It was hard for me dealing with my one Wingman. Cali is like the La Romana of the Dominican republic. La Romana has Boca chica, Santo Domingo, Santiago, Puerto Plata, Punta Cana, and the Su to compete with for tourist dollars. Most of these other cities have the advantage of location, popularity, and accessibility La Romana doesnt have.

The same thing applies to Cali. It has Medellin, Bogota, and Cartagena to compete with. The other cities have similar advantages. That's cool with me because I like Cali. It's a more accessible La Romana in my book. The prices are low as well as them having a good availability of low mileage darker chicas. If I start being less choosy with darker chicas, my Availability of chicas will increase even more.

Agree 100%. For a major city Cali is the best bang for the buck in Colombia outside of the red district in Bogota. But as you said it's not a place for a group. Of all the cities I have visited in Colombia and I have been to many, Cali is the city I think I was being watched more than any. Cali gets a lot of the chocolate chicas due to proximity to Buenaventura. That seed had been planted generations ago.

[GrownMan1]

Cali is a slow roll and best suited for single mongers or with a wingman, but not groups.

Just telling it like it is.

Zippy.

I can only imagine having a group of nine guys with me while I'm in Cali. What a major cluster fuck that would be. It was hard for me dealing with my one Wingman. Cali is like the La Romana of the Dominican republic. La Romana has Boca chica, Santo Domingo, Santiago, Puerto Plata, Punta Cana, and the Su to compete with for tourist dollars. Most of these other cities have the advantage of location, popularity, and accessibility La Romana doesn’t have.

The same thing applies to Cali. It has Medellin, Bogota, and Cartagena to compete with. The other cities have similar advantages. That's cool with me because I like Cali. It's a more accessible La Romana in my book. The prices are low as well as them having a good availability of low mileage darker chicas. If I start being less choosy with darker chicas, my Availability of chicas will increase even more.

[Triple Darknes]

It's hard to find a woman that will give you a bad lay? In where Cali or SD? What do you mean by "bedside manner"? If you're talking BBJ I totally agree. IMHO DR chicas oral skills are better. Oral is usually on the menu during a session.

I agree the women in the DR are A little more user-friendly. That's because when they see a Gringo they see a walking ATM machine. They have had friends, family members, and acquaintances who have benefited from the generosity and / or stupidity of gringos. When they have a fish on the hook, they are relentless and try to get everything they can as quick as they can. Their mouths and their hands constantly stay open. They are not too proud to beg.

In Cali Colombia The gringo financial contributions are not essential to the women or The local economy. Women that don't freelance In bars or streets are less likely to want to hook up with you away from the casa.

In the DR the chicas are constantly looking for ways to get more money. In Cali they may Get with you to pay some bill or extra money for food but after that they are good. They won't be hounding you or coming up with excuses to RFM.

One thing I notice big about the difference between both countries are the pimps and hustlers. It's hard and illegal to pimp Women in the DR. There are less casas and more freelancing. Usually the guys that are helping chicas get money are boyfriends, close associates, or family members. The guys stay out of sight and out of mind until it's time to drop her off or pick her up. The hustlers in the DR have a understanding of English and makes their money getting commission from both you and the chica if they can.

I notice in Bogota, Colombia (like Cuba) the pimps or more hands-on with the chicas. They are in control and many times demand respect from you for talking to their women. Example, I was talking to a chica in Bogota. Because I didn't acknowledge her pimp he made a signal for the chica to walk away. He saw I was interested but he didn't care about the money he wanted the respect. I made a mental note to get acquainted with the pimps before dealing with chicas in the streets.

I like Colombia because of its availability of chicas in every city. Though in Santo Domingo, Boca chica, Sosua, and PP the chicas are more user-friendly; The amount of chicas at your disposal in Medellin, Cartagena, Bogota, and Cali are much larger.

I described "bedside Manner" in the Cali section. In short it means GFE, I personally cannot see GFE not including a BBJ at the very least. Yes because of lack of demand there's less motivation of Cali chicas to try to drain as much money out of each monger. I'm in Cali and so far I've only received a few RFM's here and when they were denied they were cool with it.

The whole point of my DR vs. Cali posts is because most DR vets also visit Colombia or are interested in doing so so I pointed out the differences. Based on what you're saying Cali seems to be like Cuba with better infrastructure. I will say I never saw any evidence of Pimps in Cali.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[Zippy42]

Well I have to make an amendment. Colombia has a better general ease of living (unless you simply refuse to learn Spanish) Again lower cost of living and better infrastructure. At the end of the day women are women to me Kenyan women are still number 1. That being said Dominicanas are generally more welcoming and friendly but that's mainly down to more interactions with tourists.


As far as Cali being Virgin Territory so to speak that it is but it doesn't take long for a place to pop off. If 25% of the people who complain about Sosua on the Sosua specific boards come to Cali It would be Virgin territory no more. If you could just get 5000 or so mongers/ weekend warriors and just 20 more expats it would totally transform Cali. Sex Tourism is like throwing a wallet down the street.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

Cali is not for the faint at heart. I was married to a Calea and lived in Cali for 3 years. Unlike Meddy, Cali has an extremely deadly and dangerous underbelly and is king of the hill for the amount of sicarios in Colombia and while there are several casas and love motels in Cali, a huge group of ballers trying to turn Cali into the new Sosua would be met with tragedy I can assure you. You might think ballers walking around Sosua posting up is fine, do that Shit in Cali and you are coming home in a body bag.

Cali is a slow roll and best suited for single mongers or with a wingman, but not groups.

Just telling it like it is.

Zippy.

[GrownMan1]

I'm quoting my own post for me but also for any other monger considering to travel to SD Cali or both.

After finding my feet I still agree that women are still more user friendly in the DR, It's hard to find a woman that going to give you a bad lay. It seems like DR women willing to get into the game are trained up with excellent "bedside Manner". It looks like I'll live in Cali and visit Santo Domingo, In fact I'm making a visa run soon.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

It's hard to find a woman that will give you a bad lay? In where Cali or SD? What do you mean by "bedside manner"? If you're talking BBJ I totally agree. IMHO DR chicas oral skills are better. Oral is usually on the menu during a session.

I agree the women in the DR are A little more user-friendly. That's because when they see a Gringo they see a walking ATM machine. They have had friends, family members, and acquaintances who have benefited from the generosity and / or stupidity of gringos. When they have a fish on the hook, they are relentless and try to get everything they can as quick as they can. Their mouths and their hands constantly stay open. They are not too proud to beg.

In Cali Colombia The gringo financial contributions are not essential to the women or The local economy. Women that don't freelance In bars or streets are less likely to want to hook up with you away from the casa.

In the DR the chicas are constantly looking for ways to get more money. In Cali they may Get with you to pay some bill or extra money for food but after that they are good. They won't be hounding you or coming up with excuses to RFM.

One thing I notice big about the difference between both countries are the pimps and hustlers. It's hard and illegal to pimp Women in the DR. There are less casas and more freelancing. Usually the guys that are helping chicas get money are boyfriends, close associates, or family members. The guys stay out of sight and out of mind until it's time to drop her off or pick her up. The hustlers in the DR have a understanding of English and makes their money getting commission from both you and the chica if they can.

I notice in Bogota, Colombia (like Cuba) the pimps or more hands-on with the chicas. They are in control and many times demand respect from you for talking to their women. Example, I was talking to a chica in Bogota. Because I didn't acknowledge her pimp he made a signal for the chica to walk away. He saw I was interested but he didn't care about the money he wanted the respect. I made a mental note to get acquainted with the pimps before dealing with chicas in the streets.

I like Colombia because of its availability of chicas in every city. Though in Santo Domingo, Boca chica, Sosua, and PP the chicas are more user-friendly; The amount of chicas at your disposal in Medellin, Cartagena, Bogota, and Cali are much larger.

[Triple Darknes]

General ease of living and women. That's all an ex pat needs to say. No one can argue with them on that. Especially if you're retired. Your Spanish has to be more polished in Colombia.

Cali Colombia is Rarely charted Territory. It's going to be a long time before it becomes a popular Monger destination. They don't see many non-black Colombians on vacation. It reminded me like I was back in Cuba before Obama. The only exception is the Cubans were very much aware of Black Americans even though they hadn't seen many.

On two different occasions my friend and I were mistaken for Haitians seeking work. The Haitians were the only non-blacks people were used to seeing. We kept getting asked what country were we from. In the DR they know 90% of the time you're from America and there's no need to ask.

Well I have to make an amendment. Colombia has a better general ease of living (unless you simply refuse to learn Spanish) Again lower cost of living and better infrastructure. At the end of the day women are women to me Kenyan women are still number 1. That being said Dominicanas are generally more welcoming and friendly but that's mainly down to more interactions with tourists.


As far as Cali being Virgin Territory so to speak that it is but it doesn't take long for a place to pop off. If 25% of the people who complain about Sosua on the Sosua specific boards come to Cali It would be Virgin territory no more. If you could just get 5000 or so mongers/ weekend warriors and just 20 more expats it would totally transform Cali. Sex Tourism is like throwing a wallet down the street.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[GrownMan1]

I'm posting this here because most mongers and expats do the DR / Colombia circut. When asked about the DR vs. Colombia any DR expat will tell you Colombia wins hands down. Then when asked why are they in the DR they don't have a good answer.

Granted I haven't been to Meddy or Carty so take this with a grain of salt. Colombia blows the DR out of the water in all ways except for general ease of living and women.
Trip.

General ease of living and women. That's all an ex pat needs to say. No one can argue with them on that. Especially if you're retired. Your Spanish has to be more polished in Colombia.

Cali Colombia is Rarely charted Territory. It's going to be a long time before it becomes a popular Monger destination. They don't see many non-black Colombians on vacation. It reminded me like I was back in Cuba before Obama. The only exception is the Cubans were very much aware of Black Americans even though they hadn't seen many.

On two different occasions my friend and I were mistaken for Haitians seeking work. The Haitians were the only non-blacks people were used to seeing. We kept getting asked what country were we from. In the DR they know 90% of the time you're from America and there's no need to ask.

[GrownMan1]

the outdoor ribs near hotel Europa is pretty good (though I am annoyed that I ordered two times same items, essentially same weight, and the guy charged me 600 pesos when the girl the other day only asked for 300. Like with people repeating "chino chino chino" this has been an ongoing issue.) Best seafood hands down other than maimon is Puerto Plata Punto Mariscospop.

That's the only bad thing about the DR, they are constantly trying to hustle and overcharge you. You constantly have to be on your guard when making a purchase or buying service. Chino Chino Chino I know it's irritating but they love chinos And that's why they point you out. Imagine a white girl with blond hair in Jamaica.

[Triple Darknes]

I'm posting this here because most mongers and expats do the DR / Colombia circut. When asked about the DR vs. Colombia any DR expat will tell you Colombia wins hands down. Then when asked why are they in the DR they don't have a good answer.

Granted I haven't been to Meddy or Carty so take this with a grain of salt. Colombia blows the DR out of the water in all ways except for general ease of living and women. What I mean is you can
speak almost no Spanish like I did when I came to the DR and quickly figure it out. I was able to get what I needed as easily in the Dr as I was in English Speaking Kenya. Shit is different in Cali Colombia. You get the run around when finding out basic information and there doesn't seem to be any monger hangouts where you can meet fellow mongers and get schooled. This is similar to Africa where people don't really help Black Mongers.

Secondly the women, Here in Cali there seems to be more plastic here than in the DR and more indigenous women who generally lack curves but the surgery is more realistic here. In the Dr when they use surgery they ten to go overboard and it can look crazy especially when you see them at the mall with their children. But the women are far far far more user friendly in the DR than in Colombia. In the DR I never stepped foot in a Casa, There was no need. Once I found my footing I was picking up semis and "non pros" with ease. I fucked a fair amount of shop girls in Agora and Megacentro malls.

El Conde was like shooting fish in a barrel and the Malecon was an excellent hunting ground. I will say that Colombian Casa girls in smaller casas tend to be as or even more accomodating than a food court worker in Megacentro you can generally get multi nut sessions and CIP (if that's what you want) in an "independent" casa as you can in the DR. I think that Colombian hoes are more "regulated" I haven't seen "the look" in Chipichape Mall from a shopgirl but if a woman is willing to sell pussy I think that they're encouraged to rent out a space and take clients there as opposed to the more freewhelling DR where chicks make on the spot decisions to have sex for money. There isn't a Parque Independencia or even a Parque LLeras in Cali.

Then there's the middleman issue. In Cali it's almost impossible to get takeout (take in?) You either go to the Casa or pay waaaaay more to a cab driver wannabe pimp who will wait as you fuck. I never experienced that in the DR. If a girl "delivered" another girl I usually fucked the delivery girl too just to prove a point. I'm been here more than a month and I haven't had one girl offer up a friend.

My overall point is that by a month's time I was swimming in women in the DR here it's still somewhat touch and go. I'm not motivated to visit every casa to find those diamonds in the rough.

But I will say there's way more non mongering things to do in Cali than in Santo Domingo

The Expats have it right you should live in the DR and vacation in Colombia.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

I'm quoting my own post for me but also for any other monger considering to travel to SD Cali or both.

After finding my feet I still agree that women are still more user friendly in the DR, It's hard to find a woman that going to give you a bad lay. It seems like DR women willing to get into the game are trained up with excellent "bedside Manner". Then there's the fact that 90% of anything in the states you can get in the DR Technically that's true in Cali too but there's random things that you may miss from the states that I can't find in Cali. Cali is a large city with over a million people but it has a small town feel.

Same thing for the women I'm getting low mileage "Non Pro's" in Cali fairly well. Again it's no Santo Domingo but generally the bedside manner is the same. I do miss the Malecon and the beaches but they are a short flight away, However a 7 dollar bus trip beats a 40 dollar plane trip. That brings me to Cali's biggest selling point Price. I made it to the 2000 DOP Peso club after starting in the 4000 peso club but I'm in the 100 K COP club. As of this writing 100 K COP is about 1476 DOP so it's still cheaper overall. That being said I had a few accidental freebies by this point in the DR. What I mean iby accidental freebies is that I had a few Tinder overnights where the chica didn't ask for a dime so I didn't give them any but they didn't return calls after that Mr. Go-Go put me straight on that.

But speaking on Prices everything's cheaper here, again my apartment is currently 372 USD when I first rented it is was 437 USD till I cut out the Airbnb middleman. I had an apartment north of the river in SD that was 550 USD and the price never dropped in fact in increased for Christmas. You can go clear across town in rush hour and you won't pay more than 6 USD. I routinely paid 6 bucks to go from Piantini to the Colonial Zone.

Then there's the infrastructure one reason that you will pay more is because tourism affects the Dominican economy more so literally your Airbnb host would rather kick you out because the host knows that there's some noob willing to pay double the price you paid a month for for only two weeks. In Cali there's not zero Blackouts but no one has an inverter in their house because it's not needed. I drink bottled water but the water here is potable so you can brush your teeth with the water here. It's not nearly as hot here as people would have you believe, the heat myth is from people visiting from Medellin or Bogota. There's little humidity here because it's freqently overcast and it rains for a few minutes everyday (usually late nights and early mornings) . One final upside to Cali is because of the lack of demand there's no talk of cedula's and multimonth security deposits to rent in Cali, You make a deal and you pay the rent as you go no paperwork required.

One other con is the few monger expats here aren't tight knit there's no monger bars no El Conde where you can people watch and pick up a girl who tickles your fancy. Most people not only don't speak english but don't understand american accented spanish. Practice rolling your are's before you get here.

That being said as an retired expat Cali is hard to beat but Santo Domingo is hard not to love. It looks like I'll live in Cali and visit Santo Domingo, In fact I'm making a visa run soon.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[OldKool]

One mans skank is another mans queen. Most of the SWs I have seen in SD are of that ilk. I have picked up few girls there back in the day. Never had any problems. Every now and then you will see a 7 or 8. There are also semi pros walking conde looking to get some quick cash. Their quality is a bit better. In my expericnce SD working girls leave a bit to desire. On my way as we speak. I used that bus on my last trip. It took little over 3 hours . Game Changer

I just left Grands (pacos) five minutes ago because I had a newbie and I wanted him to see the circus but I wouldn't recommend messing with any of those skanks. Most are thieves, crackheads and no good. But the rest of your post I agree with. There is also a new express bus that leaves Carib tours SD on the half hour for an express to Sosua. The bus ends in Charmicos not Sosua. It's only a 200-300 pesos cab ride to Sosua.

[SoberHans69]

There are freelancers in SD but the quality is questionable. In the Zona Colon there is a restaurant called Grand it is on google maps. It is open late and has a few working girls sitting almost all day. Mostly 5's & 6's but there price is low 1500 or 2000 pesos you are good to go. There are also girls strolling the Mallicon. Any cab will take you there and tell the driver what you want most have girls in there phones and will be glad to hook up. SD is cool but you need contacts and Spanish to truly enjoy it. I will be there this week but I have more chicas then I can see waiting for me. If you into casas or ho houses there are a few. I do not use them so I can not give a recommendation. You will love Sosua because the pussy chases you. The quality is good enough to make you satisfied. Everything there is close at hand and reasonably priced. Good luck and be safe.

That's great, thanks for your reply and all your posts on here, really helpful.

Which bars in Sosua are owned by BMs? I'm sure I read of at least one.

[Mr Gogo]

There are freelancers in SD but the quality is questionable. In the Zona Colon there is a restaurant called Grand it is on google maps. It is open late and has a few working girls sitting almost all day. Mostly 5's & 6's but there price is low 1500 or 2000 pesos you are good to go. There are also girls strolling the Mallicon. Any cab will take you there and tell the driver what you want most have girls in there phones and will be glad to hook up. SD is cool but you need contacts and Spanish to truly enjoy it. I will be there this week but I have more chicas then I can see waiting for me. If you into casas or ho houses there are a few. I do not use them so I can not give a recommendation. You will love Sosua because the pussy chases you. The quality is good enough to make you satisfied. Everything there is close at hand and reasonably priced. Good luck and be safe.

I just left Grands (pacos) five minutes ago because I had a newbie and I wanted him to see the circus but I wouldn't recommend messing with any of those skanks. Most are thieves, crackheads and no good. But the rest of your post I agree with. There is also a new express bus that leaves Carib tours SD on the half hour for an express to Sosua. The bus ends in Charmicos not Sosua. It's only a 200-300 pesos cab ride to Sosua.