Medellin Reports

[Surfer500]

I have been "en el centro" at from 20:30 to 21:40 on Sunday. I don't know if it's because it was Sunday, but all the chicas were gone. Only the few working in front of the bars were still there. Some of them. I can say I have seen just 10% of the girls I have seen Saturday afternoon. I think the best time is between 16 and 19, after most of the chicas leave.

I have seen a monger there, speaking with two girls, maybe around 9 PM? He had a small backpack. One of you guys?

I didn't let anyone near me. I have been really careful to change path when two guys or a group was 30 meters away from me. Police was there, not many policemen, but it was there. And to be honest "el centro" was empty. No girls in Veracruz, no girls in Plaza Botero, I mean just 5. A few zombies around, real zombies, like in The Walking Dead. One was walking dragging his leg, he was like in the tv series.

Well, that's my last night visit there, but I will return between 16 and 19.

Best time is between 4 and 7 as you have surmised. There basically is a shift change, a sort of overlap between the daytime Chicas and nighttime Chicas. Sunday's are the worst days to monger in El Centro, albeit there are some part time Chicas that do come out during the daytime that have normal jobs during the week to make some extra money. As far as avoiding people, well it sounds as though your an obvious gringo and probably smart to do this, especially during the evening, however during prime time, 4-7 PM it will be harder for you to avoid people.

[JjBee62]

Up, not down.

Jajajaja, couldn't resist.

Thank you.

Depending on who took them. Some of it is trafficking. They get the girls to agree to go to Mexico to work, but then only give the girls enough to live on and not what was promised, stranding them there for months.

Some are legitimate pimping situations. Some are taken solo by guys. Some go on their own because they can make more money in Mexico.

[JjBee62]

So your point is that I should carry my phone and 1 million so if they rob me, they are going to be happy and they leave me alone? Because this is what you have just said. Instead I'm doing the exact opposite. I'm not carrying my phone and I'm carrying what I'm going to need for the hours I'm in el centro. Carrying 6 millions is not really smart, isn't it? There is no reason for that. Credit and debit card are accepted everywhere. And if I'm carrying such an amount, which is not going to happen, I take a taxi. It's not even smart doing your errands "en el centro" with your $1000 phone. If you know you can get robbed, you go around with nothing, so that's what they are going to rob, just the cash you have with you. If you don't have an expensive watch, you don't have to worry when your arm is outside the window of car, because no one will try to take it from you. People are not shooting at you because you don't have nothing. It happened, but it's not the rule for sure. It might happen if you are opposing resistance that you get stabbed or shot, and I don't even think it's going to happen all the time. Most the time, if there are people around, they will just walk away. Yours are just fantasies. You should do some days in a prison here in Colombia to understand why people don't get stabbed any minute. If you hand over what you have and you show you don't have nothing else, there is no reason they should hurt you. If it happens, then it was your destiny. They take what you have, as fast as they can and they run away. Please get back to reality.

You're going to have to dig up some old memories. You seem to have forgotten what you posted which started all of this.

You suggested you were going to go walk around the deserted streets of El Centro after midnight with only enough money for a taxi, just to prove it's not dangerous. Do you remember? Everything I've said is based upon that claim. It's not based on walking around conducting your business at noon or 6 pm. It's based upon walking around, with no purpose, in empty streets after midnight. Can you remain focused on that for about 3 minutes.

If you have absolutely no purpose to be in El Centro, particularly after midnight, particularly away from where the people are, you should not be there. There is absolutely nothing to gain from the excursion. The same is true anywhere in the city. If you're just going to a part of the city to prove crime never happens, and if it does, the thieves are basically decent fellows who are always 100% reasonable and polite, head up to Paris, Manrique or Milagro for your midnight stroll.

If you decide to take such a stroll, for no purpose other than to validate your opinion about the thieves in El Centro, you're being foolish. However, if there were laws against foolishness we would all be in jail. You don't need to take 1 million pesos and your phone. 150 k, especially if you include your small bills, should be enough for them to grab and run away.

Because, grab it and run away is what you want them to do in the event someone does rob you.

You know what, you do it your way. I'm absolutely certain the nice guy with the gun will be very understanding.

Could you do us all one favor? Before you take your "after midnight nothing dangerous here stroll", put a piece of paper in your pocket that says "Apparently I was wrong. " That way when they find the body, we'll be able to identify you from the news report.

[Wolf662]

That is a fair question. You can add these destinations to the list: Curacao, St. Maarten, Aruba, Spain.

I know my Conejitas girl wen to St Maarten to work at at the strip club there, they import Colombian girls for a few months at a time.

[Nounce]

I have been "en el centro" at from 20:30 to 21:40 on Sunday. I don't know if it's because it was Sunday, but all the chicas were gone. Only the few working in front of the bars were still there. Some of them. I can say I have seen just 10% of the girls I have seen Saturday afternoon. I think the best time is between 16 and 19, after most of the chicas leave.

I have seen a monger there, speaking with two girls, maybe around 9 PM? He had a small backpack. One of you guys?

I didn't let anyone near me. I have been really careful to change path when two guys or a group was 30 meters away from me. Police was there, not many policemen, but it was there. And to be honest "el centro" was empty. No girls in Veracruz, no girls in Plaza Botero, I mean just 5. A few zombies around, real zombies, like in The Walking Dead. One was walking dragging his leg, he was like in the tv series.

Well, that's my last night visit there, but I will return between 16 and 19.

You learn fast. You can also try go in the morning. You may find different girls working. This is only the outskirt of where the zombies show up.

[Nounce]

Cali and Medellin are also different. Last I heard Cali was more dangerous.

This is not a competition. LOL. The point I was trying to make is people who give advice are sharing real experience because they have actually been there and often. Just take that into consideration and do whatever one pleases. It is an unique sight and experience.

[Knowledge]

I was not talking about live location.

I think he is not talking about tracking live location.

[Knowledge]

Cali and the surrounding Valle de Cauca department have severe long standing security problems. Armed rebel groups that actively operate there don't present much risk to our constituency but the rampant robbery and petty crime do. When I worked in Colombia my company had to tailor its operations to avoid situations that would involve employees making intercity trips. We also had problems getting vendors and support organizations to visit our facilities during afternoon hours for fear their employees would end up on the wrong side of a traffic jam that could keep them out after dark.

Cali and Medellin are also different. Last I heard Cali was more dangerous. And I would not be surprised if Cali centro is dangerous. Everyone I know from Cali has been held up at gunpoint at some time, mostly while driving, including just coming in from the airport on a shuttle bus. But, before there is an outcry. I don't know that many people from Cali, so I'm sure someone will have had a great time there, no problems at all, and spent all kinds of time in Centro.

[Black Page]

So your point is that I should carry my phone and 1 million so if they rob me, they are going to be happy and they leave me alone?

You should always have some money to give. If you have only 20 k, nobody would believe it, they could shoot you or hurt you just to cut the story short. Have a reasonable amount, give it, and that's it.

Have a phone with you, as everyone has a phone, but buy it cheap if you don't want to risk.

I was never robbered by two guys with gun on a motorbike, but in such a case I would be happy to have 100k in my wallet and a cheap phone instead of my Samsung.

Who attempted to rob me in a street of Bogota was a small group of teens with a small knife. They run away after 1 min, but they were not dangerous. It can be worse.

Most the time, if there are people around, they will just walk away. Yours are just fantasies. ...... Please get back to reality.

Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about. Medellin is not Naples. This is not Gomorra. Don't think you can lecture people who has spent years in Medellin. Jjbee62 knows the place, you don't have gathered his experience yet.

Go to Medellin, enjoy without being paranoid, take basic precautions and you will be fine, but do not think you are smarter than others or you may risk to pay the price. The probability of incident may be not high, but the risk size is huge.

Perhaps you ought to look at all of these posts in a different light. It's not that the board members with lot's of time spent on the ground in Medellin are trying to scare anyone with what they have witnessed / experienced, but more to warn others of the dangers that lurk, and hopefully provide some advice and things to be aware of so that other board members avoid becoming a victim.

EXACTLY. Well said.

It's not dangerous if you know what you aredoing.

Unfortunately, not everyone has the experience to know what they are doing. We advise caution, simply stated.

[Incrociatore]

I'm reading your reports with interest as I will travel to Medellin for the first time soon. As you have stated in your reports a number of times that you have taken girls back to yours can you please tell me what area you stay in and if you are using a hotel or airbnb. Thanks.

I do stay in Laureles, which I prefer to Poblado, not because La 70, but because it remembers me "El Vedado" in Cuba (very different, but residential). In addition Poblado is on the mountains, meanwhile Laureles is in the valley, therefore Poblado can get "cold" from time to time.

I used AirBnb, but pay attention when you book, be sure you read the notes. Previously I booked a place to discover after I had to pay 100 k for every guest I had. Which I didn't. I just left the place. If you book an hotel, be sure you can bring guests in your room. I heard by some members there is COVID supplement in some cases. I can't confirm it's true, but these people know what you are here for and they try to get all they can from your pocket.

I don't like casas, neither I like the love hotels, so if I have the opportunity I bring the girls at my place. Sometimes I do errands in El Centro, I try one or two girls, and if I like particularly one I invite her to my place a few days later.

I usually go for the best restaurants in the city, doesn't matter if I have to take a taxi. They are cheap, even the best. I take a taxi usually when the ETA is more than 15/20 minutes, otherwise I walk. In Laureles there are many restaurants, and most of them are concentrated in a couple of areas. I have been to Carmen the other day, which is considered one of the best restaurant in the city. I spent less than 40 dollars for a starter, a main course and postres. Other places I recommend are Barbaro Cocina Primitiva, and if you want to try a peculiar, very thin pizza, made with high quality ingredients, there is this restaurant called Ammazza, which is great IMHO. Also worth a check Saludpan. It's a good place for an alternative lunch. Mondongo offer huge portions, but the quality is not great. I have been there once and I will not repeat.

[Shamester]

Cali and Medellin are also different. Last I heard Cali was more dangerous. And I would not be surprised if Cali centro is dangerous. Everyone I know from Cali has been held up at gunpoint at some time, mostly while driving, including just coming in from the airport on a shuttle bus. But, before there is an outcry. I don't know that many people from Cali, so I'm sure someone will have had a great time there, no problems at all, and spent all kinds of time in Centro.

As for centro do not walk around. Taxi to your location and be smart. The security is always outstanding. A few gems are around for decent pricing with an attached facility to do your business.

[Shamester]

Cali and Medellin are also different. Last I heard Cali was more dangerous. And I would not be surprised if Cali centro is dangerous. Everyone I know from Cali has been held up at gunpoint at some time, mostly while driving, including just coming in from the airport on a shuttle bus. But, before there is an outcry. I don't know that many people from Cali, so I'm sure someone will have had a great time there, no problems at all, and spent all kinds of time in Centro.

Cali is fine. Visited in March with zero problems. Visit the two clinicas and you shall be rewarded with a huge selection of chicas with good service.

Prices are extremely reasonable.

An issue with Cali is the lack of English compared to Medellin.

Overall Medellin is better for mongering due to the numerous options.

[Osteoknot]

I think the discussion here is a little different. Most what we are discussing here are from members who have been in the area practically all day for a long period of time. It is not like that they stay away from downtown and warn others not to come. I think the definition of downtown is far smaller for new members than experienced members so the viewpoint is also somewhat different.

It may not happen to you, but if it happens to you just once, I think you are going to change your opinion very quickly. That may be the difference of opinion between people never experience it and people who have experienced it.

Issues of personal violence risk are in their own category. Most risks in life we can play the odds and not worry to much about outliers. The risk of getting in accident while driving, the risk of moving to a new city for a job, the risk of a marriage lasting, etc. But some risks are defined by the outcome more than the probability. Imagine a rare fatal disease, one in a million, one in ten million. But if you have it the incidence is 100%. Doesn't help for someone to say, "Wow, the disease that is killing you is SO rare. " So like you said, everything is copacetic until everything goes wrong, then what? I take way more risks than I should, been lucky so far. Personally I used to stroll El Centro all hours, pre-Covid. But I wouldn't recommend doing what I did. Jumping off the airport bus and running over to NutiBara Hotel? Sure. Heading the opposite direction at 2 AM into the Venezuelan section of town wearing a Nike track suit and sneaks? Probably not a good idea but that didn't stop me. Hey, I wanted to get laid and that's where my girls lived. Peace out.

[Zeos1]

I think the discussion here is a little different. Most what we are discussing here are from members who have been in the area practically all day for a long period of time. It is not like that they stay away from downtown and warn others not to come. I think the definition of downtown is far smaller for new members than experienced members so the viewpoint is also somewhat different.

It may not happen to you, but if it happens to you just once, I think you are going to change your opinion very quickly. That may be the difference of opinion between people never experience it and people who have experienced it.

Cali and Medellin are also different. Last I heard Cali was more dangerous. And I would not be surprised if Cali centro is dangerous. Everyone I know from Cali has been held up at gunpoint at some time, mostly while driving, including just coming in from the airport on a shuttle bus. But, before there is an outcry. I don't know that many people from Cali, so I'm sure someone will have had a great time there, no problems at all, and spent all kinds of time in Centro.

[JohnnyO]

Met another girl yesterday. She came to my place, we ordered food. She was here for about 3 hours. A lot of talk with a lot of contact, especially from her side. Legs on mine, etc. She didn't let me kiss her. She asked me to recharge her phone, like 2000 COP before she left, which I didn't. She was nice, but she didn't shave her legs in a while. Student. Not a prostitute anyway.

Another girl was willing to accept my offer 100 + taxi for 2 hours. We had a video call. She was with a friend. After the call she accepted the offer, but then she told me to meet the day after. We never met, and she is not answering anymore. She was looking better in the pictures. They all look much better, usually.

For now, Badoo is a waste of time.

I'm reading your reports with interest as I will travel to Medellin for the first time soon. As you have stated in your reports a number of times that you have taken girls back to yours can you please tell me what area you stay in and if you are using a hotel or airbnb. Thanks.