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  1. #19243
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    ...Why do you think Gringos monger in places like Thailand and the Philippines and not South Korea or Singapore. Because the average South Korean women have a high standard of living, So if your the typical average gringo, your not going to get love in South Korea like that when you compare...
    Slight correction. I am fairly familiar with mongering with South Korean women. They are expensive indeed, but widely available. The average South Korean woman does not really have a high standard of living. She aspires to get one but most are not there yet.

    And in Singapore. The native Singaporean Chinese chicks don't have a good reputation for service. So folks tend to avoid them. Instead, folks look for other ethnicities such as Viets, other Chinese, and Eastern Europeans.

  2. #19242
    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo  [View Original Post]
    I've had a number of mongers reach out to me to find out what I did to try and take advantage of the high conversation rate 2 months ago. The truth is, I missed out on it. I think it was like 4. 25 R when I was desperately trying to figure out how I could convert my dollars into reais for my 2 future tips to Brasil. All reports I had seen were saying that if Bolsanerio won the election that the real would become much stronger and the rate would plummet.

    1) I went to my Bank of America and Citibank and the best they could do at the time 3. 70 R, o matter howmuch I complained that it was almost 60 cents off the international rate, they couldn't do anything for me. Take it or leave it was the attitude..
    Don't stress yourself out. I'm heading to Brazil in a few weeks, and I talk to a Expat that lives out there. Its a buyer market. The economy is so shitty that, you can always negotiate down. Yes it may not be 4 to 1 but you will still have a good time.

    On a currency tip. The reason the Brazil Real is getting strong is outsider investors and wall street are hoping Bolsanerio privatize everything in Brazil and elimate government spending. Lets see how that works. With no safety net, such as pensions and cutting police salary.

    Police are just going to be more corrupt In the future look for Brazil to be more dangerous and out of control.

  3. #19241
    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo  [View Original Post]
    I am headed down to Rio in a couple of weeks, I know I will have a great time. I just have stop reminding myself of all the money I could have had in my pocket if there had been an easy / fair way to convert those dollars when the rate was super high.
    I think that went down pretty much the way people here thought it would.

  4. #19240

    Missing out on the 4+ rate

    I've had a number of mongers reach out to me to find out what I did to try and take advantage of the high conversation rate 2 months ago. The truth is, I missed out on it. I think it was like 4. 25 R when I was desperately trying to figure out how I could convert my dollars into reais for my 2 future tips to Brasil. All reports I had seen were saying that if Bolsanerio won the election that the real would become much stronger and the rate would plummet.

    1) I went to my Bank of America and Citibank and the best they could do at the time 3. 70 R, o matter howmuch I complained that it was almost 60 cents off the international rate, they couldn't do anything for me. Take it or leave it was the attitude.

    2) I thought about sending it to a friend who lived in Rio and have them convert it for me. Western Union also had a shitty rate so that was a no go.

    3) I was gett8 ing more and more upset ecause the rate was falling everyday and nobody could give me a good way to get the reais at a good rate.

    4) I found out that an ex-help girl that I knew was going back to Brasil in October to see her family so I wired the money to her account and she wired it to her brasilian bank account.

    5) She absolutely refused to carry the money on her person to brasil because she said that Rio is very dangerous and she was nervous to walk around with that mush money in case she got robbed. (I begged her to take the cash because I knew she would get a better rate at the cambios but she wasnt having it).

    6) she ended up getting 3. 75 R at her bank so basically I was fucked out of about 3600 reais! Trust me when I say I was angry as hell that there was nothing I could do about it. It is very frustrating when I think about all the fun I could have had in Rio with the extra 1000 dollars in my pocket, that is a lot of fucking and partying that got pissed away in the rain!!

    I am headed down to Rio in a couple of weeks, I know I will have a great time. I just have stop reminding myself of all the money I could have had in my pocket if there had been an easy / fair way to convert those dollars when the rate was super high.

  5. #19239
    Looking back at this discussion of approaching non-pros, keep in mind Brazilian girls generally like flirtation. The problem is many of you have no game at all. If you have no game back home, you likely don't have any game in Brazil. I'm not saying you have to be young and handsome. You just have to know how to start a conversation with an attractive female without looking and drooling with monger eyes.

    The girls who aren't interested will take the flirtation as a compliment and let you down politely. The girls who are open to foreign connections and some side money will also appreciate that you are treating them as a regular, attractive woman with respect.

  6. #19238
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    There is nobody in Pattaya that has a problem getting a job and I have never heard a Thai say they can not find a job. There are always help wanted signs up everywhere.
    Forgot to include my google stats:

    Unemployment Rate in Thailand averaged 1.43 percent from 2001 until 2018, reaching an all time high of 5.73 percent in January of 2001 and a record low of 0.39 percent in November of 2012.

  7. #19237
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    Places like Thailand where there is little to no opportunities. So Women are more willing to hook up with Gringos.
    Actually there are plenty of opportunities in Thailand. It is just that many people are lazy, and like most prostitutes they get into it for the fast and easy money. A friend of mine was going on maternity leave in Pattaya at the end of last year. She wanted me to find someone to fill her space while she was gone. She makes $858 per month as a receptionist at the mom and pop hotel she works in. I could not find anyone for that job because nobody wanted to come to work and be on a schedule like that everyday when they can just fuck a foreigner for a couple of hours and get $30 - $100. There is nobody in Pattaya that has a problem getting a job and I have never heard a Thai say they can not find a job. There are always help wanted signs up everywhere.

  8. #19236

    Tomjackin.

    Tomjaackin is one of the absolute best trip reporters on this entire site, especially when it comes to coverage of Latin America. So for anybody to question that is laughable. Check out the Reports of Distinction for Latin American destinations, and you will find plenty of his field reports in there. Keep up the good work my man! Those of us in the know appreciate it.

  9. #19235
    Quote Originally Posted by Kcrl02  [View Original Post]
    the ignorance of the average gringo is appalling. These assholes (especially Americans) think every woman in Brasil is selling their pussy and is dying to hook up with a gringo. Quite, the opposite. Typically, when I go out I only speak Portuguese and I avoid Americans like the plague. When in actuality the majority of these women I meet & work with are usually doctors, lawyers, bankers, stockbrokers, IT types, engineers, scientists, accountants, Ph. The. University professors & MBA businesswomen working for Fortune 500 firms. Many have their own businesses and they're not just beauty & nail salons either. They drive BMWs, Benzes, Jeeps, & Land Rovers. Their homes are in the most exclusive gated communities (Alphaville, for example). Several have been educated at Stanford, MIT, UCLA, Oxford & the Sorbonne. Many attended the US schools on volleyball & football (soccer) athletic scholarships. On average they'll probably speak 2-3 different languages.
    Yes women like that are what we consider upper class Brazilians. Of course they are not crazy to hook up with a gringo. In Brazil, doctors, lawyers, bankers, etc. Are considered rich, They have a good paying job and are well off. They don't care about Gringos. We are not talking about well off women.

    Why do you think Gringos monger in places like Thailand and the Philippines and not South Korea or Singapore. Because the average South Korean women have a high standard of living, So if your the typical average gringo, your not going to get love in South Korea like that when you compare.

    Places like Thailand where there is little to no opportunities. So Women are more willing to hook up with Gringos. When I talk about hooking up with Non-Pros in Brazil, I'm talking about the average to poor female. She is willing to sell her hole. I'm not talking about StockBrokers or bankers in Brazil.

    If you want to get with a upper class Brazilian, Your going to need good old fashion game and your going to need to know Portuguese. Most guys that travel to Brazil are on vacation and they usually stay 1-2 weeks max.

    So who wants to waste there time chasing well off upper class women that your almost never going to see again. Its one of the main reason why upper class women that are looking for relationships don't care for gringos because they know your not going to be in Brazil very long anyway.

  10. #19234

    History Lesson.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sperto  [View Original Post]
    That makes sense. Assuming any typical brazilian chick is for sale. If you let somebody else do the approach you don't risk to get beaten up by offended girls or their friends. You can hide behind a female scout.

    If somebody really wants to try your strategy they should know that prostitution in Brazil isn't illegal, but pimping/rufianismo is.
    Yeah, if memory serves me there was the case of girls, a gringo, a boat and the Federal Police. But hey, who are we to question a guy who has mastered Google search and committed every word in the self-published Foreign Girls are Easy to memory.

  11. #19233

    FYI: ForceSteeler.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    That is the reason why I say its easier to just hire a Brazilian female scout and have them find females for you.
    NOTE:

    In 1890, the Penal Code of Brazil penalized pimping (the activity performed by someone who manages the relationship between prostitute and client). Brazilian law criminalizes any third party who profits from the transaction, whether they are an abusive pimp, brothel owner, or private bodyguard.

    I'm think twice about the "hiring" a female scout thing. Get yourself a reliable Brasiliero wingman / or not, hang out and just go with the flow. And have plenty of $$ IMHO.

  12. #19232
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    That is the reason why I say its easier to just hire a Brazilian female scout and have them find females for you... Right now in Brazil is a major recession right now. Everybody is struggling and Yes most girls can be available for money.
    That makes sense. Assuming any typical Brazilian chick is for sale. If you let somebody else do the approach you don't risk to get beaten up by offended girls or their friends. You can hide behind a female scout.

    If somebody really wants to try your strategy they should know that prostitution in Brazil isn't illegal, but pimping/rufianismo is.

  13. #19231
    Quote Originally Posted by TomJackin  [View Original Post]
    No worries; I could care less about you too!
    My sentiments exactly! Your ass has probably never been out of the USA!

  14. #19230
    Quote Originally Posted by Kcrl02  [View Original Post]
    Typically, when I go out I only speak Portuguese and I avoid Americans like the plague.
    No worries; I could care less about you too!

  15. #19229

    Brilliant

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I totally agree with Sperto here. Perhaps you have Brad Pitt looks with James Bond type suave but do not give newbies the impression that any Brazilian babe is up for grabs.

    I remember a hilarious incident that happened to me decades ago when I first went to work in a small Caribbean island called Trinidad. I entered a collectivo type taxi and sat next to a hot local chick in a mini skirt with her lovely legs exposed. I immediately propositioned her thinking she would respond favorably to a well dressed foreigner. She loudly and quite effectively put me in my place for every one in the full vehicle to hear, telling me who do I think I am, etc. , etc. I was humiliated and got some harsh looks from others in the taxi. The young 20 year old Turgid certainly learnt a valuable lesson that day to try to be a little more respectful in future to all women, abroad and at home.
    Brilliant.

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