Lisbon

[Pedrassi]

thank you ze duron and green banana for your amiability. as to mur, i understand your viewpoint that i might, at first sight, be acting like a parasite by demanding information immediately in my first post.

i shall explain why i did so: i was going to meet a pp girl in the next day or so and i wanted to be sure that i did not, to put it bluntly, fuck up. because mongering is supposed to be an activity of recreation and pleasure and not involve hurried visits to the hospital fearing for one's life.

having said that, i shall now write a summary of my trip to the pp girl's hangout place, since she is a relatively new addition to the site and i have not seen any posts concerning her here.

she was called bruna. the place was a residência next to saldanha's atrium, a small urban shopping centre.

things did not start very well, because when i entered through the door and saw her waiting on top of the entrance stairs, another man came in and it became impossible to pretend that i wasn't with her. it was an embarassing situation for me (and for her, i imagine...). i hoped the man would take the stairs and leave us at peace, but no, he presses the elevator button and there he waits, next to her, while it creakily moves down. so i swallow my awkwardness and go talk to bruna. the elevator finally comes and in we go, along with the man. another awkward silence. we get off in the 4th floor and the man, to my relief, stays on. but to top it off, i hear this cleaning lady approaching, which starts to make me a bit irritated with the whole situation.

we quickly move to her room, she locks the door and finally we are alone.

we talk for a bit, i give her her 100 "roses" gift, and then we kiss. i'm not usually confortable enough to kiss anyone just like that but she was sweet and pretty, and she smelled good. it also allowed for a relationship of trust to kick in from the beginning, as we slowly converted from strangers to each other to love birds in the end. it is worth mentioning her clothes: a light blue blouse and a casual skirt. not the decadent and grimey clothes and appearance that seems to afflict so many working girls today.

we eventually undress ourselves and lie on the bed. more intense, passionate kissing. i move downwards, where she makes me suck her nipples. not something i majorly fancied, they became instantly hard in my mouth, which was a bit weird for me. she then proceeded to suck hard my own nipples, which made me wonder if i really was the active side in this relation. she ended this foreplay by moving down, starting a bj at first without a condom, and then finishing it with.

some penetration was finally next. she took the initiative to start with the rodeo girl position. she compliments me on the size of my dick and seems to be really enjoying it. i encounter some difficulty moving to her rhythm, so eventually we change round. we then tried the "mama-papa" position (or missionary), to my delight. i still find it difficult to move freely as much as i'd like, so we later move to doggy-style. also cool, the noise of genitalia hitting against female ass was amusing. another one or two styles are tried next, including a sideways position where my legs and arms seem to be everywhere around her. one slightly annoying point to mention was that after giving me a bj she continued to want to kiss actively during intercourse, but i didn't mention it.

we continue to play about for a while, until she begins to get more and more concerned about my apparent inability to orgasm. we move back to old positions, but still no success. after a while she takes off the condom and tries to give me a handjob combined with frequent short periods of uncovered bj. to no avail, junior seemed determined in letting both of us down.

she seemed disappointed; i told her not to worry about it. it was without doubt not her fault, she was just great in bed. i reckon my inexperience in these matters continues to weigh in, having been the main problem.
after both of us having gone clean ourselves in the bathroom, we kiss and hug goodbye. after some intimate, girlfriend-type sex nothing better than a coherent ending to end the experience in a grand manner.

she accompanied me downstairs where we managed to talk a little more. we finally parted in the entryway. i open the door, to find myself being observed by a bunch of men sitting some metres away in a "esplanada". i make a speedy departure and there finally ends my little adventure.

apologies if this post is too large (i only realized now how big it's become) and if it is filled with too many flimsy, irrelevant details.

i won't be able to do any more test drives for a while because of some other commitments, but shall return when the time is ripe again.

ps mur those last two posts are as usual fascinatingly interesting. congrats on a job well done.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread.

[Murilloa]

Correio da Manhã. (Translation: ‘Morning Post’).

This daily rag carries Portugal’s best selection of advertisements for pussy purchase. It's in every kiosk, and online:

http://www.correiomanha.pt/

Go to ‘classificados’, and then ‘convivio’, then ‘Grande Lisboa’. You have reached the leading resource for Lisbon’s mongers. Day after day (fewer on Saturday and very few on Sunday) there are hundreds of ads, for every possible service, all over the region.

Most ads are arranged in alphabetical geographical order, so you must know your way around: a girl in Benfica is a short taxi ride from the centre, while Almada requires a trip across the bridge, and Cascais is half an hour by train. And it helps to know some Portuguese to grasp the information about the lady’s appearance, services and prices. For example, ‘completo’ means she will allow you into her back passage, ‘trintona’ means she was born some time before 1976 (often long before), ‘oral natural’ (not difficult) means she will accept an unrubbered member in her mouth and ‘oral natural até ao fim’ means that it may remain there until ejaculation. ‘meiga’ means ‘nice n sweet’, ‘simpática’ is friendly, ‘deslumbrante’ is dazzling, ‘carinhosa’ is affectionate… but they would say that, wouldn’t they?

Yes, once you’ve mastered the vocabulary, be aware that no legal contract obliges advertisers to be truthful about age, appearance or type and quality of service. A few of the ads mention price, although they never use the € sign, preferring euphemisms like ‘40P’ (petals) or ‘20 orquideas’ etc. Not to be confused with ‘Peitões... 50’ , which is a breast measurement, or '18A' which means she would like you to believe that she's fresh out of high school.

Bear in mind that some of Lisbon’s best houses, Mirage Klub, Classic Ladies, Clinque de Massage, New Centre and others, do not appear in the online version of the CM. For their phones, you will need the paper version, where these establishments have little box ads that stand out from the long columns of classifieds. Avoid ads beginning ‘R..’ or ‘Rapaz’, or ‘T..’, or ‘Travesti’. Unless you like boys or girlieboys: in both cases, you are reading the wrong forum.

The online ads are searchable: if you are staying with friends in Oeiras or Estoril, why simply use the box to the right of the screen and you will discover local options. Increasingly, these ads give www addresses where you may examine photographs: these are almost always genuine, give or take a little permissible photoshopping. Exceptions: three suburban outfits entitled ‘piriguetis’, ‘xamego’ and ‘bombasticas’. Scams, with photos of supermodels and porn queens – the reality will be a chubby chainsmoking Brasileira. You have been warned.

Further warning... when you call, you will seldom find an English speaker at the other end, and you will almost never get the address first time, They will say "OK, honey, y’know the Lidl supermarket right by the gas station after exit 22 for São Domingos? Well get there and call again and we’ll give you the address…”

It took Mur a year to reliably understand these conversations, in every accent from the widespread Lusophone world. But if you can get a Portuguese speaker to help, CM gives you the freedom of this wonderful city.

[Murilloa]

So you’re installed in that central hotel. Showered, refreshed, horny. Hit the street.
As always, there are cheap options here, with all the excitement of live hunting, but also the possibility of hunter turning into prey. Don’t be scared, but do be careful. Not just of the unsavoury males who hang around SW haunts, (Mur for example, give him a wide berth) but try to make a careful appraisal of the girl herself.

Is she a wasted drunkie or junkie? Is she texting her serial-murderer pimpodaddy? Is she ten days from her last bath? Is she a national wildlife reserve for crab lice? Is she 63 years old? Is she a he?

Not easy to tell, especially at night. Nothing worse than watching your €25 bargain remove her grubby jeans and stinky sneakers under the unforgiving bare bulb of a pensão bedroom, to reveal grime-caked feet, or needle-tracked arms, or a sagging belly, or a cock. On the other hand, it’s just delightful when the same modest sum turns out to have landed you a perfectly groomed 20-year-old right off the bus from Bucharest. For many, the element of gamble and danger makes up the fun.

Where? Look at that map again.
Intendente is the down-and-outest street scene in Lisbon. You may not wish to buy, but it has anthropological interest. No-go after dark. Poço do Borratem, to the E of Praça Figueira, (metro Rossio) is the pitch for Romanian and Moldavian girls, but the other end of the age range is also represented, with some local veterans doing surprisingly brisk business. Up at the NW corner of the map, Rua Artillharia Um, and adjacent streets, offer a mixed bag of treats. So does an area to the north near the Instituto Técnico.

There are also roadside girls in the Parque Monsanto, Lisbon’s own Bois de Boulogne. These are strictly for kerbcrawling mongers who, loving their automobiles more than they love sex, need a swift BJ or uncomfortable fuck in the car. Risky: not unknown for your new passenger to direct you to a secluded parking place of her choosing, and once your pants are round your ankles and she is bobbing on your gear shaft, her boyfriend-accomplice roars up on his motorbike. The best you can hope for at this point is that he just takes your cash, refraining from smashing the car windows for an extra kick.

There are similar venues for the brave motorist on the south bank of the Tejo in Caparica, and Mur has even heard of a weird scene in the car park of the autodrome out beyond Estoril towards Sintra: if confirmed, this would be the most westerly monger-mart in continental Europe. Other street galleries include Restelo and Paço D’Arcos, but these suburbs are more likely to draw the resident than the visitor. Expect to pay €25 to €50 max., including the room.

[Murilloa]

Even an old goat like you needs somewhere to rest and sleep. Few Lisbon hotels are ‘girl-friendly’ in the sense that, when you breeze in at 0330 with a magnificent prostitute on your arm, reception staff just yawn and wave you through. For this reason, the ladies who work the night clubs will usually ask you to accompany them to a ‘pensão’ or cheap guest house, of their choosing, where they are known to the manager and perhaps have an arrangement with him. The additional cost is yours, of course.

However, if afternoon in-call is your cup of five-o-clock tea, it’s different, for the experienced escort girl usually knows how to glide unobserved through the lobby and the coffee shop and make her way up to your room.

If you can choose your hotel, take location seriously.

Attached is a simple plan of central Lisbon.

From any hotel within the bounds of this map, you can walk the whole centre with its many sights, sexual and cultural. But others are less conveniently situated. The Radisson, the Novotel, Ibis, Alfa, even the Holiday Inn and the Lisboa-Continental – all stranded to the North or West of the map, require a taxi in to the city centre proper.

This is especially important for the married monger accompanied by the Love of his Life. He may only have an hour or so as ‘window of opportunity’, and he does not want to spend half that time sitting in traffic. Try to book one of the many decent hotels on or near Avenida Liberdade, or round Marquês de Pombal and the W side of Parque Eduardo VII A senior monger of Mur’s acquaintance always contentedly uses the Altis. From there, you can walk in ten minutes to any one of a dozen good venues, take your pleasure vigorously and be back well before The Lady has finished her siesta.

All the three, four and five star hotels in Lisbon are clean, comfortable and dull. For Mur a hotel is only a place to sleep, and unless in Baghdad or maybe São Paulo he prefers to go out for his food and drink to local dives. Other mongers may know more about prices and facilities. But repeat: if you take the hobby, or tourism, seriously, do not get beached out beyond Praça Espanha.

If you are in the Cascais-Estoril tourism zone, read forthcoming instructions about ads In Correio da Manhã.

[Murilloa]

It’s flattering to get regular PMs asking for basic information, but not always possible to answer. Some colleagues believe that we should just ignore a person who signs in to ISG and immediately, with no reports to his name, sends a PM demanding info.

On the other hand, we were all beginners, once.

(Remember the first time you paid for sex? The anxiety, the twitchy, sweaty dread, the shall-I-or-shan’t-I, the will-I-be-able? And now, it’s as easy as riding a bicycle. Well, easier, for us older mongers.)

Anyhow, it’s time to put together a compendium, a package for newcomers planning a Lisbon trip. This will be in several parts, moving Muri towards his landmark 300th report. It is for visitors, but old hands and residents should send additions and corrections in time for editing.

Let us begin where most visitors do, in the hotel.

[Kama Leão]

Yes, oh yes!... There's definitely an Eastern Front to heaven.

And the two latest goddesses sent from the Celestial Orbs of Fuckdom come (and make no mistake, they do cum!) exactly from there.

Meet, then, Eva and Lilia.

Both are blonde.

Eva is tall (1.75 m, I'd say), early thirties, with an athletic but deliciously curvy body, medium to small breasts, a butt that, once you see it and cannot help but feel it, is certain to make you dizzy, sexy face and a voracious sex appetite. She's Hungarian - but speaks very good Portuguese, don't know about English - and more than willing to please you in every way you can dream of (and then some...): DFK, BBBJ, CIM, DATY, A (she actually invites you to it, deep and hard, and makes it all too clear that it will not be only YOUR pleasure that will be at stake!) you name it! Not at all a clockwatcher, she greets you in beautiful lingerie, really enjoys you undressing her piece by piece (while she does the same to you), in fact, she apparently relishes in all the gloriously sordid details of the art-of-the-boudoir. While, at the same time, remaining a little snobish, coquettish and sophisticated. And, yes, she is expensive: 150€/hour. But, can you really put a price on Heaven? (967 723 412, Lisbon, near the metro station of Pontinha, next to the Lidl supermarket)

Lilia is an angel. A very, very, very beautiful short blond haired and blue-eyed angel, russian, slim and soft, with very small but highly kissable tits, not as tall as Eva but not petite, mid-thirties. There is quite a serious risk that you might fall in love with her, be warned! She kisses like there's no tomorrow, her BBBJ/CIM is a wondrous "crescendo" experience, and you do want to spend the rest of your semi-conscious life making love to her... you even forget that she'll not allow you to pay the tribute her oh so lovely ass more than deserves. And, St. Mary Magdalen be praised!, she'll only ask you 50€/hour (she also has a very flexible sense of time if she's enjoying herself) for a walk in the clouds in her company. (968876132, Costa da Caparica, southbank of the Tejo, next to the last stop of the buses from Lisbon to Costa)

[Harry Hymes]

Mirage Klub (near the Tivoli) : Last time here, a few weeks ago, I chose Vanessa, a cabo-verdiana. Lovely, beautiful girl, good company, nice sex, I highly recommend her. CBJ. She told me that she does anal, but I didn't try, got too much occupied with the rest. 100 euros well deserved.

Classic Ladies (Av. 5 de Outubro, 968972093): Here I went with a Portuguese girl called Patricia, who was presented by Ana, the mamasan, as a relatively recent newcomer. The girl was inexperienced, but dedicated. Recommended. Nice attitude. 100 euros.

I also got a 30 euros experience in Oeiras which was not worth it and Aline in Parede who presents herself in her ad as a beautiful young blonde, but is neither.

[Valdo13]

Hi,

I am back from Lisboa and here is my (short) report.

First Lisboa is a nice city, typically latin city, people are probably the more friendly I met abroad, definitively a nice trip.

As I wrote earlier I like strip clubs so I tried most of the clubs in the place but have been a bit desappointed. The girls are very nice and there is no pressure but 40 euros for a no-touch private dance was not acceptable, particularly when 20 more euros gives a 30mn session in any private appartment.

Concerning the appartments I have tried the Marques de Tomar 33 address several times but everytime it was closed. But actually the first appartment I went to was the good address. I went to MK at Sampaio at about 1pm, asked for the famous Diana, who had not yet arrived. So the girls there did not even propose me any other girl but called Diana on her mobile! Incredible! She answered she was to be there at 2pm, so I decided to go out for a while, drinking a beer and went back at 2pm. Diana is a real queen, slim, small breasts, everything I like. Chose the 1 hour session at 100. She proposes a common shower, which turned out to be a real pleasure as she makes anything you could imagine in a shower. Next go to the bed for a very sensual and loving session (no anal, as for all of the girls in this appartment I suppose). Then a tender and very good technique massage to end the session. I did not ask for a second shot but I suppose it is not a problem. Diana is really a pure angel and 100 for 1 hour with such a girl is simply incredible.

I returned to MK one more time but, even if Diana was, I decided to try another girl, which Diana herself agreed! Carla is a brasilian blonde, slim and really beautiful. The session was pleasant but she is more pro than Diana and it was clear that she simulates, while Diana SEEMS to have a real pleasure although she did not have any orgasm. Conclusion: MK is really a great place, very clean appartement, very nice people, no pressure, beautiful and nice girls, I would say that it compares with the erotic massage clubs in Belgium or Luxemburg, but there you only get a massage and a manual end for 100 or even 150!

Last information I got there:

- intendente: I went there by curiosity on Sunday 2pm, there were policemen everywhere because of a celebration but I would not go in this district alone, even in the day, so if someone wants to go there by night…be careful man!

- street girls: you can find travesties on rua Conde Redondo, near Saldanha, and (not great looking although not bad though) ladies on rua Artiharia 1.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

[Green Banana]

Gentlemen,

A long time I didn’t contribute to this forum and specially to this lovely Portugal division. Back to duty now.

Thursday at 7 :30 pm I went straight from the airport to classic Clinique de Massage, avenida Marques de Tomar, 5, level 1. Not the right timing, only three girls were there, none of them too much appealing. I left for the other place, same avenida, numero 33 (5th floor), and it was worst, with just three fat African mums – not my taste. Actually I think the Clinique is one step ahead its colleagues in terms of confort and decorum.

Therefore I opted for a nice seefood dinner on the Rossio (penedes, ameijoas, crabs, the like), excellent place if not cheap, called Pinnochio. At 11 arrived to Elefante Branco, same atmosphere than ever, guards at the entrance looking at your shoes (you won’t enter here if you wear runners), grey haired skilled waiters, and zillions of brasileiras chasing for a client. I picked Rosanna, a tall Paulista brunette with big real tits, for 150€ after negociation. At this hour, you can’t expect the girl staying with you longer than one hour, whatever she says before. Anyway, once back to my room, good service incl. a short BBBJ, a bit of rimming and SF in various positions. Afterwards she rolled a spliff for me, very friendly. And one hour after coming she went out - no pb.

On the Friday afternoon, I went back to the Clinique at what looks like beeing a much better timing : 4 pm. 8 girls were available, for all tastes, but Renata, Raquel, the best picks for A sex, were not there. Fortunately I found Diana, a brunette I had already met some time before. This Diana (not the one of Mur, who works in another appartment) is from Goiania, Goias, may have 27 or 28, little but sensitive tits and Brasilian ass. She provides one of the best BBBJ you may find in this kind of appartment. Deep throat, serious rimming, BBJTC twice (gentle massage in between). She gives her back as well if you are in that mood. But as her conversation is, well, pretty limited, I suggest you to keep her tongue occupied - you won't be disappointed! You'll know why to come back… and you'll get it. Recommended. (100€ one hour, 80 I guess for half an hour).

Looking forward to hearing from you soon !
Green Banana

PS: Pedrassi, I monger for a long time now. 'Natural' BJ' 70%, CSF 100%. I never caught something from a pro, except cockroaches in my early age - at this time the girls' pubic hair was much more developed than today! Anyway IMHO if you feel unconfortable with the idea, stick to the CBJ - well done CBJ beeing better than a poor lazy 'natural' one!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

[Zé Duron]

Welcome Pedrassi.
I read your report in gpguia...to bad it didn´t quite work with you.

Welcome and post here as well comrad.

[Pedrassi]

Hello everyone, this is my first post and I would like to congratulate all on the rich and diverse debate, comments and opinions that one can find here.

Most impressed was I especially with Muri's know-how and experience in this field, his literary eloquence and craft leaving no-one indifferent.

Despite being a native, I am quite the newcomer to this art of mongering.

As such, I was wondering whether any of you could enlighten me on the following:
Have any of you had problems after receiving uncovered BJs from working girls?
Because there seems to be some risk, though relatively small admittedly, of contracting HIV, hepatitis, herpes, or any other nasty STD.

I thank you all in advance for any experiences you could share.

I've had only one test drive, albeit a failed one, with a girl called Sol from the pp website (if you want to know what happened, I wrote about the TD in the gpguia.com website in portuguese...)

[Murilloa]

stepping off the aircraft, muri and diana feel the hot seductive reek of the tropics waft to greet them. a short ride to their beachside hotel, and there’s time for a first immersion in the crystalline caribbean before cocktails and dinner on the pool terrace. back in their chalet, the only sound is the rustle of palm trees and the murmur of cicadas as mur peels diana out of her bikini and worships her proud sweet brown flesh with busy tongue and rigid cock. the honeymoon has begun. lowering her gently to the bed, he parts her firm thighs and presses passionate lips to the gleaming jewel between them. soon he is kneeling over her, leaning forward to kiss her lips, and as one hand caresses her shiny hair, the other guides his straining throbbing engine towards the gates of paradise…

imagination and fantasy are the gifts that raise us above the brute beasts. what links us to them, is fucklust.

so…

stepping into the poço, mur feels the sharp reek of drains and exhaust fumes waft to greet him. unsettled by stress, insomnia and lust, he needs something quick and cheap. has springtime brought a fresh team of romanians to this ancient hunting ground? will he be lucky and meet irina 3? the other irinas were slim, black-haired, pretty in a way that will not last, but which gives them the confidence to bus across the continent.

their objective? to vary and enrich their €100-a-month lifestyles waiting tables or stacking shelves in bucharest.

their method? serial seduction, of any man able to climb the pensão stairs with €25 and a hard on in his pants.

and, yes, there she is. slim, long jet-black hair with chestnut highlights at the front. fine romanian face, high cheekbones and enigmatic slanting eyes, with a touch of gypsy in the complexion. she’s wearing a black blouse, and light blue denims showcase a shapely butt. irina 3, another fine feline female.

turns out she calls herself catarina – but most of the letters are there, peaceful. she’s 21, her body is smooth, pale, flawless and clean. small boobs, lovely bottom, a wisp of hair above her pink pearl. she smiles sweetly but is undemonstrative during the performance: no licking like irina 2, but just at the end, some response as she moves her hips to dance in tune with mur’s orgasm. then – almost the nicest touch – she allows him to remain inside for a minute or two, letting the aftershocks die away and embracing with something like tenderness, allowing her temporary lover to take his time returning to reality.

reality. that’s where we live, not on tropical beaches with student princesses. but this little slice of reality comes with muri’s strong recommendation, if peaceful or anyone else out there wants to make his début in the poço.

[Zé Duron]

Thia is just a perfect example taken by myself this afternoon. Girls standing in front of Private College and chatting before classes.

Oh my god, was she greta looking! ...but I didn´t dare to take a closer shot with the big camera! This is a tiny crop, 20 % of the picture.
Took a lot of work focussing in the other right corner!

[Peaceful]

Bruna - Morena, bonita, elegante, meiga e simpática. Vem *** comigo a Queluz.

http://portal-intimo.com/index.php?c...mpanhanteID=30

After my program with Patricia from the same house this program was very disappointing. She is tall, a real airplane, with dense legs, long black hair, firm butt and tits, no obese belly. But on the other hand, she wasn’t IMHO pretty, she wasn’t shaven and smelled badly, a mix of sweet and chemical wastes.

Some kissing, then a short BBBJ which hadn’t 1/10 of the violence and commitment of a BJ by Patricia. Then she covered it up and went to the top: a large, unwet, but hot as hell pussy. After a while I laid her down and hasten myself because the smell was annoying me. 20 minutes of action from the start until the end for 40€. Then we talked a little more but it was a forced chat so I broke out and left.

Made me wonder, why did I switched knowing that hardly I would find better than Patricia? It was a waste of money, a ordinary fuck with no flavour. A comparison has to be made: Patricia has a mouth of a angel (or maybe of a devil.), she is committed, natural born friendly, liberal (no anal but you could do everything to and on her, agreed on everything, accepted to let me warm my hands on her chest and other things: -)) gives you two pops if you stay on time, she is pretty and lovely and. Owner of every quality you look in a working girl, the action is so intense and animal that, be careful, may let you hooked.

So. If you go to this house my advice is to choose Patricia instead of Bruna.

Best regards,

P.

[Peaceful]

Hahahaha! You are right Mur, it is somehow our common Nirvana! Ok but instead of a sooo romantic and paradisiac scheme, there are a number of countries where more pragmatic students are simply needing some cash and ready to offer their sweet body to get it, so why not in Lisboa? I suppose that there exist and that the challenge is more to discover them and bargain rather than to imagine whether they exist or not.

Any news on how to meet that famous Diana? Are the last information published here on her still up-to-date?

Yes, for what I've read on this board on forums of other countries that is true, but I think that doesn't happen in Portugal for many reasons. First Portugal isn't a sex tourism country, second high school is free and public college has small fees and poverty isn't a portuguese drama and of course for what Muri also said. I think you may find some part-time working girls if you look deep, but the return will be low.

Muri, I've asked you in other report I made, maybe you've skiped it or maybe you forgot to reply. Have you've been on Poço, have you met the Irina 3? If yes how is she? I haven't been on Poço since that flop with Irina 2 and still haven't been with a street girl.

Best regards.