Kyiv

[Simpleminded]

So, I have been here since Wednesday evening (about a day and a half) and I have not had any luck. Granted, I did not set up a bunch of possibilities on Mamba a month beforehand, but I did not think the mongering infrastructure would be this bad in what I thought was the land of milk and honeys. Here is where I stand so far on my attempts. I stayed in most of the day because it was raining. I figured this would be a good time to catch up on the Mamba homework that I neglected before I came here. I sent 22 canned messages and received one reply back from Bella who I am supposed to meet tomorrow. I know that I can go to Buddha Bar or Caribbean and pay something like $200 USD but I can't do that when I know I can go to an FKK for much cheaper and younger, and see the goods before I buy. I just came from Athens where I had a 20 year old blonde Russian and 20 year old blonde Czech girl for 20 Euros each. Yeah, it was like 10 minutes each but I more than got my money's worth and I would happily pay them $100 USD if they were here today. I tried Whatsapping a girl on Top-Modals named Lenochka. It says in her ad that the pics are verified and that you can Whatsapp her. It also said that she was 1200 UAH for an hour. So I sent her a message and asked if the info about the price and pics are correct and if she was available tonight. Everything was a go until I asked if she could send me a selfie of her holding up the middle finger. That's when she (or he) said " No, I admin. Can come beautiful girl". Then he sent me professional quality pics of other girls that were also obviously not going to be sent to my hotel room. When I pointed this out, they stopped responding. If worse comes to worse, I will just bite the bullet and pick a 1200 UAH or so girl and see what they send.

I am also staying in Hotel Rus which has a resident older worker hanging out outside the bar, as well as its own strip club. After 2 drinks at the bar, I wandered into the strip club to see how it was. It cost 100 UAH to get in, but a draft beer was only 40 UAH. I sit down and there are literally two other guys in the place both sitting with girls. The skinny girl dancing finishes and comes over to me to ask if I want a dance. I say "no" and she asks for a tip. I guess I should have given her something but she didn't even do anything for me. The next girl dancing is kinda cute but only dances for a minute or two on stage and only shows her tits and then comes and asks for a dance. I say "no" then she asks for a tip. I say "what's a tip?" and she says 100 or 200 UAH. She didn't so much as wiggle her ass for me. That's when I left. Hopefully I will have some better news to report tomorrow.

[Simpleminded]

In what way do they tell you that? She looks legit to me, plus she seems to be searching for something serious.

Thank you for taking the time to help out. I just assumed that since I am a newbie in Kiev that the ones that look too good to be true, usually are scams or bait and switch. When I wrote her with a canned message that I sent to many girls on Mamba, she responded very quickly and said she doesn't speak English. I thought that was the end of it so I used google translate to tell her that I understand and to have a good day. She then wrote back in English asking if I want to meet tomorrow. Long story short, I offered to meet at the Italian restaurant mentioned here in a post, but then we got down to the issue of sponsorship. I offered her 1500 UAH and she said she is okay with it. I asked if her pictures were real and she sent me 2 pictures just now on Whatsapp. We will see what happens and I will post a report. In the meantime, I'm trying to find some alternatives to Mamba.

[Hzlvr]

Simpleminded,

We don't know why you think that on this girl.

I have met her, she is quite OK. She provided really good service, OK body, thou her tits didn't sit well after having a kid.

Only downers is that she can meet most often only during day time and back then she didn't speak much English. Oh, and she has written to me afterwards asking for money, "just help" even when I was not in Kiev.

(Met her earlier this year).

I just got to Kiev and did not do much Mamba research beforehand except for signing up and browsing a bit. Now I am here and the clock is ticking. I sent some messages today and got a reply from "Bella" on Mamba asking if I want to meet tomorrow. http://www.mamba.ru/mb1181626955?hit=3.

The name and pictures tell me it is probably a scam or bait and switch. I searched the name on the forum but didn't find any info. Does anyone have any experience with her?

Also, can anyone PM me Andrei's number?

[CallSign Papa]

The name and pictures tell me it is probably a scam or bait and switch. I searched the name on the forum but didn't find any info. Does anyone have any experience with her?

In what way do they tell you that? She looks legit to me, plus she seems to be searching for something serious.

[AColonizer]

I never wrote about marriage is something good. In fact marriage is the problem. In fact a honest partner never wants a marriage. In fact marriage is just for economic purpose only. In fact children, within a marriage, are for economic purpose only.

For this reason, the relationship between a prostitute and a customer is more honest in comparison of the relationship between a wife and a husband, because of the marriage. I describe what is in the reality and not in the mass marketing. Religion is a mass marketing. Economy is a mass marketing. Also science became a mass marketing.

But prostitutes are not the solution because they never can fill a person's life. I see men who gets a young, honest, beautiful, piggy Slavic girl in exchange of nothing. I see that phenomenon. And that is my goal. Otherwise I realize it is a waste of time and money for my life. The remaining people could continue to fight against the windmills of the mass marketing.

I agree to avoid women who want a man just for having children and for having money to raise children; they are the prostitutes! But what is the difference between such a prostitute and an open-minded partner with the same costs? What is an open-minded partner? Do you think your actually woman is an open-minded partner only to avoid her calling a prostitute? An open-minded partner never ask to marry her.

In my opinion its always cheaper to have a prostitute than to have a wife; the prostitutes became more expansive. Yes, but the way of living, the children and the divorces too. And after the divorce you still have the costs. You can change the prostitutes whenever you want and you can save the money for them whenever you want.

[Simpleminded]

I just got to Kiev and did not do much Mamba research beforehand except for signing up and browsing a bit. Now I am here and the clock is ticking. I sent some messages today and got a reply from "Bella" on Mamba asking if I want to meet tomorrow. http://www.mamba.ru/mb1181626955?hit=3.

The name and pictures tell me it is probably a scam or bait and switch. I searched the name on the forum but didn't find any info. Does anyone have any experience with her?

Also, can anyone PM me Andrei's number?

[Vitrea]

I notice many mamba girls are fake, and some only want to cheat the money from western guys. The blow girl cheated me $20 for travel.

http://www.mamba.ru/mb1651900842?hit=10&sp=1

How did she cheat you? I imagine the point of your post is to warn others. It helps if you can explain what happened.

[Ringudor]

I notice many mamba girls are fake, and some only want to cheat the money from western guys. The blow girl cheated me $20 for travel.

http://www.mamba.ru/mb1651900842?hit=10&sp=1

My last time there, also some girls tried to convince me to pay them a trip to Kiev to meet, I never did it, is so suspicious, a friend of mine did it with a girl from Kharkov, they were talking and chatting via webcam for months, he was so lucky and now they are near to marry, she is so cute, I think we should do the same, only to pay travel to a girl who demonstrate you so hard her interest and availability.

[Kingmax Xx]

I notice many mamba girls are fake, and some only want to cheat the money from western guys. The blow girl cheated me $20 for travel.

http://www.mamba.ru/mb1651900842?hit=10&sp=1

[Putologist]

No sex at day 9. My model Vera and I have been at the river beach the whole Friday and we made dinner at home. Her women days started yesterday. But it was so damned hot that I did not miss the sex really this evening. She will go to Odessa with her student girlfriend for a whole week. So she chose the right time for the trip...

Wow, this was a very effective way to spend 10 days in Kiev. I will try to do the same in my next trip to Ukraine.

I didn't know that it is possible to get quality girls from Mamba in Ukraine, now I think this is the way to go.

Thanks for the post Ramm. Too bad we can't PM you)

[Slavicgourmet]

There are thousands of beautiful MILFS, most of them living alone, hungry for sex and a little romance in their lives. Examples:

All of them very beautiful, independent. Sexually aware and trained. And there is nothing better than a loving woman, full of genuine desire, her pussy wet and dripping, for an allnight of no-limits sex, no clock watching.
I chase them in shopping centers, smartly dressed in a business suit, asking for directions.
My big problem is that I have too many of them. Too many SMS and emails, little time. I am trying to reduce the number (over 8 in parallel now), but it is not easy to gracefully break-up a relationship.
I got tired of the procedures and the mechanical sex of prostitutes.

I fully agree with Bimbo Boy. MILF are my Target since 15 years. Generally it is very rewarding (sexually too).

You do not need to be an oligarch, just a normal guy with some "foreign touch", education, politeness.

In your search sometimes fall in your hands a young ten or a very beautiful, wealthy (for russian standard) MILF.

It is a statistic law. Practice, practice!

[Wss1369]

Hi,

This is the first time for me and my friend come to Kiev. We want to find so girls and where would be easy and fast way to do that? We are planning to hang around bars for girls but not sure if it's best.

[Bimbo Boy]

I agree to avoid women who want a man just for having children and for having money to raise children; they are the prostitutes! But what is the difference between such a prostitute and an open-minded partner with the same costs? What is an open-minded partner? Do you think your actually woman is an open-minded partner only to avoid her calling a prostitute? An open-minded partner never ask to marry her.

In my opinion its always cheaper to have a prostitute than to have a wife; the prostitutes became more expansive. Yes, but the way of living, the children and the divorces too. And after the divorce you still have the costs. You can change the prostitutes whenever you want and you can save the money for them whenever you want.

There are thousands of beautiful MILFS, most of them living alone, hungry for sex and a little romance in their lives. Examples:

German hairdresser, 40 yo, no child.
Ukrainian civil servant, 42 yo, grown up daughter of 20.
Ukrainian finance executive, no children, 41 yo.
Brazilian lawyer, 36 yo, no child.
Russian administrator, 33 yo, no child.
Russian banker, 32 yo, no child.
Swiss housewife, 42 yo, married no kids and husband always in Africa or Asia.
Belarus accountant, 43 yo, a 21 yo daughter.

All of them very beautiful, independent. Sexually aware and trained. And there is nothing better than a loving woman, full of genuine desire, her pussy wet and dripping, for an allnight of no-limits sex, no clock watching.
I chase them in shopping centers, smartly dressed in a business suit, asking for directions.
My big problem is that I have too many of them. Too many SMS and emails, little time. I am trying to reduce the number (over 8 in parallel now), but it is not easy to gracefully break-up a relationship.
I got tired of the procedures and the mechanical sex of prostitutes.

[Rammstein2]

My MILF from last week sent me a message if I like to fetch her up at 12.00 am. She gives private school lessons somewhere in the center. I was not very pleased about it because 12.00 am is rather early and I had other plans today but I agreed. We had a mochito somewhere and went to puzata hata afterwards to eat a little. When we walked at the street later she took my hand and it was obviously, that she wanted to be fucked. So we did it. She left at about 16:30 and I was not very happy to have an other MILF date at 19:00 (German speaking MILF which I met some days before). If you had fucked ten young chickens its good to have some variety. But I recognized that I prefer the 21 yo ladies. We have had some nice hours somewhere in an Argentinean restaurant and a good steak. I am sure that there would have been an other fuck for free if I tried but I did not. She had perfect Blowjob lips and big breasts. Yes, I liked her and her time will come.

When I Vibert so much yesterday I got an offer for a threesome. I never had a threesome in my life. But the most interesting thing was that the girls had their apartment in the same street like me. So they asked me to visit them. They gave me their door code and the apartment number. I tried the door number and it works. But it was around midnight and I decided to return next day.

[Slavicgourmet]

After years and years of sex market study and practice, I have deduced the best solution. Now good prostitutes are more expensive than open-minded partners, therefore it is cheaper to live with an open-minded partner for creating a family, rather to pay a prostitute for a sexual service plus to pay a mother for giving birth children plus to pay a baby-sitter for raising children plus to pay restaurants for good meals plus to pay a nurse for curing us plus to pay a dressmaker for mending clothing. I am talking about an open-minded partner only. It must be avoided women who want a man just for having children and for having money to raise children: these women should be the prostitutes!

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Example of an ukrainian "open-minded partner" - age 45. Not a top model but but a very sex hungry woman.

2 weeks holydays in the south of France. Sea, sex, and sun near a nudist area. In average 5 men a day.

Cost: 300 euros of "help" + studio, food, resturants, excursions etc (normal costs for holydays).