Madagascar

[Vahaza Be]

i found the apartment on the site www.tonga-soa.com. 270 euros for the month in a great area of tana. there's a supermarket next to the ibis hotel not far from the colbert across from le buffet; people post ads for appartements there too -- great deals to be had. also ads in the local newspapers. or grab a decent hotel for the first few days and ask around. someone mentioned the hotel anjary. it's ok and has a very good indian restaurant on top, plus a cheap massage room (therapeutic only). good security and has an elevator! just steps away from the streetwalker scene after dark along tsaralanana, and a couple of blocks from the indra. play it safe and take cheap taxis after dark in that neighborhood.

[Maharadjah]

Good report.

How much you pay for your apartment and how you manage to get it?

MR

[Vahaza Be]

I spent 6 weeks in Tana this summer. Rented an apartment this time. I spend many evenings in the Glacier Hotel bar because it is the hub of live music in the city. Great variety of music and plenty of girls at your disposal almost every night. Most are not Tana girls, but travel in from Toliary or Tamatave, etc. One of them said the Tana girls usually leave town to hook because they don't want their families to know what they're doing. Anyway, I took several home from there over the duration, and even repeated with a couple.

The bar at the Colbert Hotel and the Le Buffet au Jardin eatery/bar has an unpredictable menu of girls during the day, and the choices increase at the Buffet as it gets dark. Around 11 pm, Glacier and Le Buffet begin to empty out as the gals head to the clubs like Pandora, Caveau, Le Bus and Indra. I had very good luck at Pandora and hit Indra once or twice when I was feeling sleazy. I had a great time from one of the regulars at the Colbert, but the most interesting was a nonpro half-Chinese/half-Malagasy metisse I met at Le Buffet. 21 but looked younger, sweet as can be but definitely hoping to hook a vahaza to turn her shitty life around. Complete GFE package.

Out of about a dozen girls, only one refused to blow me. Most kissed, did BBBJs, permited DATY, and multiple positions. None permitted anal. Most preferred an overnight, but not all. Condoms were optional for most, but some girls appear to be getting the safer-sex message. Some girls at the Glacier and the Indra looked very young to me; ask for ID if you're not sure -- they're all supposed to carry an identity card.

Tana is NOT expensive if you get to know the place and/or make some Malagasy friends.

[FindGirls]

i came back from madagascar and i would like to say that this is the kind of vacation that i was expecting : adventure, girls, nature. in this country you have to speak french or take someone with you who knows french, otherwise there are a lot of opportunities and information that you will be missing. don't forget that as in other african countries you need some bargaining skills: with the taxi drivers (a lot of them are located in tana and they are the most expensive), with the girls in the morning or directly with a streetwalker in tana, in the open markets except if you buy food.

if you arrive for the first time in tana and you have to take the taxi, never agree about the 'official' price given by taxi drivers. they will ask you 50 000 ariary (about 20 eur !) and even show you their 'official' price in a list ! madagascar is in a transition regarding the ariary, the new local currency. if you go there this year, you will find out that a large majority of the locals still thinks in franc malgaches (fmg) but also uses it instead. out of the bank, when people pay you , you can still receive the old franc malgache. you do need to watch carefully the amount of money you are using.

now about the girls.

tana

in my second day in tana, i went to walk not far from indra. i was surprised to see so many sw in the surrounding streets. one thing that strikes me (not only at night) is that these girls are really not very tall. there were certainly more than 60 just waiting for a customer ! i can't remember the time exactly. probably after 8 pm. that day i did not choose one, but i did see a cutie that i wanted to take the next day only. i took a look and i saw some interesting faces and bodies. then i went to eat not far from there in a nice restaurant that i found in the lonely planet for a cheap price. for less than 2 euros, i had an 'entrée' + main meal + dessert + 2 drinks. then directly to indra by foot, which was not very far. that day i did not found someone that i really liked and most of the sw were gone after 2 am so i slept alone.

the next day i wanted to taste the cute sw that i saw the day before. still i wanted to take a good look of all the girls available, and i was not sure of the cutie's age. what a choice ! many of these girls go back at home empty handed. finally i decided to speak to my cutie. she was small, very light skin, with mix blood (chinese and blck african i would say). she did not look 18 but she confirmed that she was. she had an id so i didn't discuss anymore and after fixing a price for the night 20,000 ariary (about 8 euros and with some bragaining) we walked five minutes to hotel anjary where i booked a room (hotel glacier is easily full even out of season).

in my room the girl took a shower and the fun begun. she was just what i wanted a sweet sw: we kissed, she proposed herself a bbbj and then i fucked her. her pussy was very tight, with the condom it looked tighter. in the beginning i was careful to fuck her slowly to let her pussy get used to my dick. i fucked her two times in the night. in the morning i wanted to fuck her again but that pussy of hers was really too tight for me. i gave her the money and i could see on her face that she was very happy with it before leaving. the girl was not at ease using the elevator so i accompagnied her downstairs.

i visited other towns (mahajanga, nosy be, diego suarez). when i came back to tana, i went to pandora. three semi pros came to sit next to me : 2 blacks and a mulatra. the less good looking black came to speak to me, but i was not interested. the other black was nicely dressed, tall (about 1m70), nice face and nice body with little breast. i danced with her holding her sometimes on her waist to feel her skin and her muscle. the girl was definitely a pro : she was also looking for other possibilities (vazahas and other men). i did not insist, i took a taxi and went to indra. by the way, the driver avoided a police control check and dropped me to indira after a few minutes.

i took a drink and looked at the scene. my eyes felt on a black girl, cotière type, pretty face, a little bit skinny who liked to dance. i dance with her and she took all the drink that i had left after a few minutes. i felt that she was in the mood to fuck the same night. luckily i spotted another black girl and she looked back at me in a very tender way. she looked very gfe, but also a teen girl, i would have given her 16. later she told me she was 20 and she had already 2 children ! i came close to her and we dance together until 3 am in the morning. back to my hotel, we washed ourselves. she had a firm body but little hanging breasts because of the children i assume. i fucked her three times in the night and one more time again in the morning.

mahajanga

i took the taxi brousse to get there. i arrived at night after 9 pm. i booked a room in hotel anjary (same owner as in tana i assume). i saw some girls that day close to the hotel. i was too tired to investigate. i need a good sleep. to my surprise, it was possible to have some cash in ariary from local machines with a credit card (visa or master card), as in tana. sometimes there is no electricity during the day. sometimes i was not in the hotel when this happens. i don' t think that it takes more than 3 hours. in diego suarez and nosy be, it was worse.

the day after i arrived i wanted to see which type of girls where standing close to hotel. it was just three minutes away. these were sw as i suspected. some of the girls were very attractive but when you came closer to her they start speaking to you to draw your attention. i preferred not to make any choice right away. i went for a drink at alliance française. the girls were still there when i got back. i saw one girl sitting that looked more discreet than the others: she was black, nice body, little breasts but firm, sexy ass, her face was average. i took her to the hotel. she left her id in the hotel, followed me, took a shower and she was all mine. she liked sex: her pussy was wet everytime at every session. i fucked her three times in the night and one time in the morning. this one was with one of my best fuck of the year. she told me she had to leave to take care of her 4 years old child, otherwise i would have fucked her again. she told me she will be waiting for me at the same place for another night. i was interested but i wanted to try another girl.

during the day, i went to tobanys. it is just a walking distance from the hotel. i saw different girls sitting there. a black girl with big breasts draw my attention, but she went to drink with her group and left very quickly. i order a meal. in the meantime other girls came. there was one who looked at me (certainly a semi-pro). she looked more than 30 and said hello to the some of the french expats. i could have make a sign to tell her to sit at my place but i preferred not to do it. i was looking for girls between 18 and 25. i went back to my hotel to rest as i felt sick. no girls until nosy be.

nosy be

there is a boat jp calloch that allows you to go from mahajanga to nosy be in less than 20 hours. it leaves (every friday, if i remember well) in the afternoon and arrives in the morning. i was tired and i wanted to stay in hellville. in less than one day, you will visit rapidly the town as it is not very big with a central avenue running through the town and which begins in the port.

in the night, i went to a local bar not far from moulin rouge. mainly locals (teens, women, men), and i felt that there were also semi-pros. i took a drink there. i went for a walk and heard that there was music playing from a place i did not know. the place was 'number one', a local discotheque. locals (girls and boys), and many seemed ****d.

i watched it from outside but i did not go in as the chance to come in contact with minor girls was much higher. instead i went to moulin rouge, i think it was after 2 am. still there were some girls, but not much. one black girl very interesting was dancing, but a young white guy did caught her attention, although that guy had another girl (with light skin) that he dropped but not without problems because the girl was still trying to get him. i watched it from far as i did not want to take a part of it. after half an hour the vazaha took the black girl away to his place. the light skin girl was drunk and wanted to go home. she spoke with another girl, a tall black with a nice body and face, in my mind both girls were semi-pro or pro.

then the light skin girl came to me. she was not too drunk to realise that i was not interested in her. she insisted to introduce me to the black girl she was talking to. i didn't mind although i did not feel that she was exactly what i was looking for. we started talking and enjoy talking together, we also dance and she gave me a few tips about the night life in nosy be and in tana where she was going.

finally i decided to take her in my hotel, but before that the light skin girl came back to me to ask money for transportation. my intuition told me she was trouble. i just handed her 2000 ariary and she left us alone.

at my hotel, the black girl wanted to sleep but not fuck. in the morning she was in a better attitude but i lost almost all my appetite for her. i did not even came once. she left in the morning and i gave her just 15000 ariary. she took my money without even looking ! maybe i should have given her much less.

the next night, 'moulin rouge' only was open in hellville, 'number one' was closed. so i went to moulin rouge. there were some choices, but i could not make up my mind. a small black girl wanted to invite me to dance. she was with another girl but we dance together for a long time. there was even a malgese song during which that girl was moving her ass in contact with my dick. that gave me an erection that was obivious to her. i gave her a drink and then we went to back my room after 3 am.

she was good in bed but not as good as i expected. in the morning, i gave her 15000 ariary. she complained that i should give her twice as much. eventually i gave her 25000 + 2000 ariary for the taxi.

diego suarez

i left nosy be by boat to akify, taxi collectif (to ambanja, i think), and taxi brousse to diego. in this town i was more enjoying my stay as a normal tourist and my time was limited. one day when i was not too tired, i went to the nouvel though but i did not find something worth as i was looking for gfe. these girls, even the beautiful ones seems more pros than in the towns that i visited. i did have an eye contact with two girls in the central avenue , where you find colbert hotel and the brand new grand hotel (a luxury hotel). the quality of the mid range hotel rooms was not extraordinary. i did found the most interesting hotels just one day before leaving which was already too late.

one very bad point for this city is that the electricity does not work from the morning, probably before 5:30 am until the afternoon, after 3 pm. apart from that the city is worth it in the sex scene. i will go there next time more as a sex tourist.

hotels

i saw some complaints about the price of hotels. please remember that this is an african country: you will not see always all the best price/quality even if you a guide such as lonely planet, 'guide du routard' (for french speaking people). another thing, i saw at least two new hotels which were less than a year old. there is no way i would have known about these hotels. these people are not really strong in international advertising, marketing.

unfortunately it was my first time so i did not always find a hotel that suited me totally but in the meantime i have made some interesting discoveries in tana, mahajanga and even diego suarez. the more expansive hotel that i paid was less than 15 euro/day in mahajanga and tana. in mahajanga for that price, i had a nice room with bathroom, terrace, airco and ventilator. the less that i paid was in diego for 6 euro, but it was not quiet. this one was nice but without hot water and really too close from the market.

if you are interested in mid range hotels, send me a pm, i will try to repond as soon as i can.

[Poupard2000]

I have seen a lot of negative reports recently on Madagascar. I am sorry for the guy who have not found happiness in Madagascar.

In every report there is a part of truth. But everything depends from the point of view. Madagascar needs some efforts to be appreciated. It is not easy during the first travel. It is clearly not an "easy destination" like Thailand. Madagascar has a huge potential but before to be a "new Thailand", Mada has a big gap to fill.

Negative points

Price of international flights
Bad quality of accomodation for a too high price (no real competition)
Price of domestic flights
Few people are english speaking
The country is very poor.. especially now with the oil inflation.
Girls are "hungry" that means that sometimes they can steal
Police is corrupted
Cities are boring and without interest
Roads have not been maintened since independance
Girls can be distant but indeed, there are often shy

Positive points

Price of girls
great malagasy music
Girls are amazing when dancing
Nature is virgin, beaches are great
National parks are great
Good GFE, almost every girl can be done.. but you have to do the first step
Food is cheap and seafood is good on the coast
People are friendly
Most girls are good in bed
Not too much HIV

To stay for more than a month or for the life, I would prefer Thailand but Madagascar has the charm of Africa. Another taste ! But don't go there alone, try to go with a friend able to speak french.

Have a nice travel

[Genghois]

considering the bad press for mada in the last few posts, i thought i had better post my own recent experience, as counterpoint. opebo, butterfly and johan: please don’t take any of this as criticism. not meant that way, at all. i’m only describing how my experience was closer to that of poupard, bucanero or sumart, with a few opinions on why it might have been different. no point in starting a flame war.

am i the only person on this board who enjoys malagasy music? it may have been le glacier’s only redeeming feature, but i saw a couple of great shows there, plus one at the disco in ambatoloaka.

to our last three distinguished posters, i think i have detected your basic problem. st vs. lt. imho, madagascar is definitely a long-time destination. in my two weeks in mada, i had ten different girls (several for repeat performances), only two of whom i would consider hardcore pros. all ten were lt and provided good to exceptional service. i think that maybe lt is the key, as malagasy girls like to be romanced, at least a little. most of the semi-pros and non-pros don’t really see themselves as prostitutes, so you need to invest a little time to get the best service.

i only had two who refused bj’s. all of the others provided bbbj, without me even asking. six of the ten gave brilliant mind-popping deep-throaters, some of the best i have ever experienced. far better than your average thai girl.

opebo complains about paying 20,000 for st, and then having the girl trying to scam him for more. yes, my friend, i think your lack of french made you a target, as you postulated. my french is far from fluent, but i can get by. i paid as little as 15,000 for lt (up to 25,000 lt for a stunner in tana), and never had a girl complain about wanting more. not to mention a freebie for a couple of nights in diego.

though the hardcore pros in the discos (not to mention the beggars in tana!) can be incredibly and annoyingly persistent, there always seemed to be a few gems hidden in the rough. only the pros are “very impertinent and confrontational”, and not even all of them. the semi-pros/non-pros are usually quite shy, and can even seem distant. but, as mentioned by several others, as long as you’ve showed an interest in them, at the end of the night they’re suddenly on your arm and on your way to providing real gfe. i intentionally targeted the semi-pros and non-pros (which can lead to hilarious consequences, as described later).

i also disagree with the statement that all of the best looking girls are taken by the ex-pats. i had three true beauties in ambatoloaka. and there were two more cuties on my “to do list”, both of whom had shown reciprocal interest, but i had to move on to the next town. in tamatave, i kept seeing the ex-pats with the ugliest hardcore pros, leaving all of the fresh young cuties to me! on all of the nights that i went hunting, in all four towns i visited, i got my first or second choice of the girls in the bar/disco. and i’m no great catch! i wasn’t settling for old hags. only the young hotties for me. i always go for quality, and in some countries that means attitude and a sacrifice in service. i did not find that to be the case, in mada.

yes, the flights are expensive, the hotels are overpriced, the taxi drivers are crooks, the money is confusing for the first few days, and the towns in mada can be pretty boring during the day. but who said you have to stay in town? there are good national parks within day-trip distance of nosy be, diego and tamatave. in tana you can go up to the rova, or out to ambohimanga. there’s more to a country than just the girls. you’re in a country for the first time? be a tourist!

ok, guys. i take it back. you can flame me. that was way too much of a sermon!!

now off my high horse and on to some specifics….

arrived in tana late on a friday night and checked into jean laborde. good restaurant, but i wouldn’t recommend it for sleeping.

headed down the street to le caveau, which was packed. lots of pros, including a few lookers, in the main bar and disco. in the second bar, i saw a lovely semi-pro girl on the dance floor, so went up to dance with her. she came back to the hotel with me and provided good service, though nothing special, through the night and into the next morning.

spent saturday seeing the limited sights around tana. that night went to le glacier where they had a good band. spent the evening dancing and being groped by the various pros. only a couple of lookers, but they were there with their boyfriends and unavailable, so i moved on to the le caveau, which was empty, and then to the indra disco. indra was packed but i couldn’t find anything to my liking. and by this time, i’d had too much to drink anyway, so i went off to bed.

sunday was a little more sightseeing, then catch my flight to nosy be. le coucher de soleil hadn’t received my e-mail and were fully booked, so i ended up at la saladerie. serviceable rooms at a good price, the best restaurant in ambatoloaka and very friendly and helpful staff.

sunday night was dead, with barely any talent available. monday night, i hooked up with a pro at one of the bars, and brought her back to my room. i thought she looked good in the bar, but when i got her out of her clothes, she was absolutely spectacular! performed admirably, all night, but no bj.

tuesday was madagascar’s independence day, and everything was shut down. damn! i’ve been here five nights, and only two girls?

on wednesday, the country finally woke up after a five day weekend for good friday, easter and independence day. bad planning on my part. went into hell ville to get some money and check my e-mail on the painfully slow internet at café oasis. that night, at k bar, spotted a young cutie sitting on the stairs, too shy to come into the bar. went over and poured on the charm to this 19 year old beauty (i made sure to check her id). i know that i was her first vazaha (foreigner) because i overheard her friend telling her what would be expected of her and what sort of compensation she should expect, in return. she provided a thoroughly gfe, though again no bj. what the ….?!

thursday night the disco finally opened up, with a decent band playing. lots of pros, only one of whom was a looker, but her french was terrible, and i couldn’t understand a word she said. no problem though, as i’d already spotted a beautiful semi-pro girl from hell-ville dancing with her friends, so i joined them. danced with them for a while, then back to the bar for a beer. ended up with three pros chasing me around the bar and dance floor, including the terrible-french looker, and my lovely teenager from the night before. but my hell-ville beauty was not one of the girls chasing me. then, close to closing time, i went walking towards the end of the bar closest to the exit. my hell-ville beauty must have thought i was leaving, and that she was about to miss her paycheque for the night, and she came running. literally running. my first, but not last, experience of how the mada girls can be demure and even distant, at the bar/disco, but that doesn’t mean they’re not interested. what ensued would have been a catfight between her and the terrible-french girl, but i made it clear who my choice was. took her home and she was as beautiful out of her clothes as she was in them. service was outstanding, and my first in a series of masterful bbbj. watching my dick slide into that beautiful face and completely disappear, until her nose was pressed against my belly, was exactly what the doctor ordered. now we’re talking!

off to diego, the next day. by this time i’ve got my routine down pat. two alarms set on my watch. one for the morning, and another to get up for the disco, after my evening nap. an afternoon beer at vahinee, where there were always a few pros around but never anything i found tempting.

hit the hotel nouvel disco. many overaggressive pros, as has been described previously, and not a looker among them. but there were a few very nice looking semi-pros dancing with their friends. one in particular caught my eye. followed the same scenario as the night before in ambatoloaka. i made eye contact as often as possible and danced with her a few times. towards closing time, she came over and grabbed my arm. this girl was a total non-pro, the mythical nice girl. when we left the disco, she hustled me off to a side street. she didn’t want to walk down the main street, and take the chance of having someone see her leaving the disco with a vazaha! evelyne was a delight. 23-years-old, half-african, half-indian, breasts a little saggy (one child), but otherwise a total beauty. spent most of my stay in diego with her, including a trip out to ramena, and it was the complete gfe. bj technique left something to be desired, but isn’t that part of gfe? lol!

one night evelyne had to go home and get some sleep for work, the next day, so i snuck back to the disco. i was specifically looking for a petite little thing with huge breasts, who i’d seen two nights before. at first i didn’t see her, or anything else that caught my fancy. just when i’d given up, and was leaving, the girl i was looking for appeared before me, and off we went. spectacular body, and gave an impressive bbbj. but this girl was so tight that, even at maximum, viagra-induced hardness, i could barely get into her! in the morning, she gave a wonderful bbbjcim, before i sent her on her way.

also made a trip up to parc national montagne d’ambre, which was worthwhile. but don’t forget your raincoat!

after three days i said goodbye to evelyne and diego, and flew off to tamatave (toamasino). tamatave is a nice town to wander around, though not a whole lot to do. the parc zoologique ivoloina, a few kilometers out of town, is well worth the visit.

queen’s disco is pretty much the only game in town, mid-week, so i was there all three nights, picking up two semi-pros and one pro.

first night i spotted this one beauty, dancing by herself. a perfect tight, athletic teenage body and a very pretty face. but i couldn’t get anywhere near her, as i was being harassed by two nasty pros who followed me around the bar and wouldn’t take “non!” for an answer. by the time i finally shook them, my teenage tighty had left. went to “plan b”, a girl who i had danced with earlier with a beautiful face and the most beautiful smile i’ve ever seen. wasn’t overly impressed with her body, but that smile hooked me. when i got her back to the hotel and unwrapped her, that 20-year-old body was actually very nice. always a pleasant surprise when a girl is better looking out of her clothes than she is in them! and this girl gave one of the most spectacular sexual performances i have ever experienced. every position, another magnificent blow, several loads released that night, including one on her face.

in the morning, she woke up before i did, and she decided i needed to “get up”, too. waking up with my dick, already half-hard, between her pretty lips, was a wonderful way to start the day. i was still tired, after our exercise from the night before, so i decided to let her continue, to cim. she didn’t mind a bit, and gave me a big smile. seeing that beautiful smile on that beautiful face, with my white cum dripping down her dark chin, is an image burned into my mind, forever. why don’t i keep my camera handy??!!

the next night at queens, i found my teenage tighty, after fighting off the usual hags. definitely had to check this girls id, but she was legal (barely!), so after some dancing and a few drinks, back to the hotel. got her out of her clothes and she was breathtaking. for such a young thing, she certainly knew her way around a man’s body, and gave all the required service.

third and last night in tamatave and i’m back at queens, with all of the usual suspects. i’m thinking of a repeat with either the girl with the perfect smile or my teenage tighty, when i spot the most perfectly shaped ass i have ever seen. then she turns around and there are a huge set of tits attached to that wonderful body. face wasn’t great, but not bad, and i just had to have that body! i grab her arm as she walks by my barstool, and she sits down for a drink with me.

now we’re in an awkward situation, with my girls from the previous two nights both within spitting distance. the teenage tighty was pouting heavily, and the girl with the perfect smile pulled me aside and gave me the “i’m telling all my friends. you’ll never get laid in this town again.” speech. considering that my flight was leaving the next morning at 8:00, and i may never be in this town again, i laughed at her. hardly fair on my part, after she had swallowed several of my loads, two nights before! but that’s the problem with the semi-pros and non-pros. they expect a repeat, while the pros know that you’re going to do a different girl, every night.

back at the hotel, i undress this spectacular body and feast on it, pour toute la nuit. this 22-year-old was a pro and she had all the right moves. apparently she enjoyed herself, too, and i had trouble getting her to leave, in the morning, so i could catch my flight.

three days in tamatave and three nights with three amazing girls. i love this town!!

back to tana for my last two nights. checked out le glacier, but no band and nothing interesting. off to indra, but nothing i wanted there, either. i decided to troll the streets in tsaralalana to see if i could find something interesting. saw a gorgeous indian girl walking towards me and i said hello. she was game, but looked too young so i asked for her id. 19-years-old, so off we go. she was a little grubby, obviously dirt poor, but after a shower she showed her true beauty. i wasn’t at my best after those three exhausting nights in tamatave, but she did her best to please, all night and into the next morning.

my last full day and, after a day-trip to ambohimanga, i check out le glacier. an amazing band playing, and the place is wall-to-wall, to the point of discomfort. but i’m completely exhausted, my guts are out of order, and it’s time to get one night of sleep, so my last night in mada i had the whole bed to myself.

all in all a great trip to a wonderful country, with many wonderful people and beautiful, talented women!

[Opebo]

I also have had a very negative experience in Madagascar, and I think only partly due to speaking no French. I travelled on the flight from Bangkok which was convenient if a bit expensive. I spent a night on the way in and two on the way out in Tana, which is a very pleasantly cool but very dirty city. Then to Diego for a few nights. This town is as the previous poster describes it - mind numbingly boring. But the worst part is the ennervating heat. Also be informed that hotels in both cities tend to be very expensive - thirty to eighty dollars! This seemed ridiculous given the poorness of the country and the mediocrity of the hotels. On the bright side the food both Malagasy and French is quite good.

But to comment on what really matters to a reader of this board - the girls. I had not previously tried the African body type, and have to admit I discovered they were not at all to my taste; so perhaps my observations should be taken with a grain of salt. But even if physically they are your type the problem is that out of the seven or eight I tried, only three were enjoyable, and only one did not try to alter the original deal by greatly increasing the price. They simply lie, but in order to cover it pretend they were speaking of Euros or dollars instead of thousands of Ariary as was clearly the case (I always took the precaution, given my lack of French, to write the price down on a scrap of paper when bargaining with girls). By the way there are two local currencies the Ariary and the Malagasy Franc, which presents myriad opportunties for giving you the wrong change. They look similar but the Ariary is five times the value of the Franc, so attempts will be made to pass Francs for Ariary.

I had two decent girls in Diego, both picked up from the street. The best one unfortunately ruined it by lying and making unreasonable money demands - three times the original deal of 20,000 Ariary short time - once the deed was done. Her argument was a curious one; she claimed she was not a prostitute, and that therefore I should pay her more. In fact I did so, but not because I accepted this nonsense, rather because I was tired of fighting. To her credit she was by far the cleanest and most attractive girl I had in the country, as well as the best in bed (a near deep throater). Perhaps most of all she had a somewhat submissive attitude - most Malagasy girls are very impertinent and confrontational, which is a real shocker if one is used to Asian girls.

The Nuevelle Hotel disco, where the girls congregate, is highly unpleasant. I much prefer a street scene to being forced to go into discos to find girls - it is awkward to approach them. In the end one always ends up with the many unattractive girls chasing one around the bar, while the few attractive girls are quickly pursued by the many men. In other words the ratio looked good until one took into account that though there were slightly more women than men, there were far more men than there were attractive women. It might look better if you are really into black girls.

I tried taking a couple of older less attractive ones in Tana thinking maybe due to their low marketability they would not try the bait and switch strategy, but they did and to top it off were repulsive when their clothes were removed. I could not bring mayself to consider more than a blow job (poor) from either of them. These hardened old girls were both picked up from Le Glacier; a good place to eat but bad for girls in my experience. I also went to Indira nightclub but it was a little early (10:45) and few inside. I had taken the precaution of bringing little money so was comfortable to walk around outside in the streets near the nightclub. Here there were many girls standing against the walls, an arrangement I prefer - less pressure and noise, as well as cheaper prices and better attitudes. Most were unattractive but a few were cute. I took one for 30,000 Ariary and she both performed well and did not attempt to cheat as the rest, simply took her money in the originally agreed amount and left, as one would hope.

All but one of the girls had hygeine problems, which seemed odd as they did enter the shower before hand. I believe they may have neglected to wash their rears - anal was attempted with two, but in both cases stopped because the odor was just too much. If you care for it, bareback would be redily available, with some automatically, in other cases with some verbal persuasion. The average price seemed to be 20,000 Ariary (eleven dollars) short time in Diego, and about twice that in Tana; but be prepared for every situation to be a struggle with cheats. This atmosphere of difficulty and dispute ruined the experience for me far more than the language barrier - though certainly it is possible one may be singled out as an easy mark for not speaking French.

The prices sound fairly reasonable, but considering the low quality of most of the girls and the extreme difficulty and expense one must go to in order to travel to Madagascar they were not a good deal. Like anything else only the long-stay expat really has an 'in' to the highest quality and best prices, though I for one couldn't bear to stay more than a week.

[Small Buterfly]

As I'm french speaking I thought things would be easier for finding a GFE than in thailand where communication with bargirls is not always easy.

So, I spent the first week in Diego Suarez alone, idle nothing during the days; there is no beach and no sport activities in that dull city (I went 1 time to Ramena beach by taxi brousse ; it's wonderful indeed, but you had to leave early mornings to come back), generaly, no easy bus everywhere (I advise you to go with a friend to share taxis). Nothing to see in that sad city except the market and some mosques (it was ramadan).

GIRLS from Diégo : no hassle by SW as in pattaya, just some girls hanging in a bar in the afternoon. Never had a proposal in the street, so I had to go to Nouvel Hotel Disco . They rush by taxi at 11pm precisely. There are lot of french expatriates there, and others coming regularly by plane from "la réunion or comores islands". But as there were may be 10 girls for 1 man, it was not a problem at this time. A local frenchman told me 90% are prostitutes... I hoped to meet regular girls to change for Thailand!

All of them are very african looking , never from indonesian type in Diégo.

One expatriate accused me to put the mess in his paradise when I told him they did not allow me to take pictures, so tke care!

Some accept 7 USD for a shorttime (it's at least 15 in Antananarivo). Most did not suck (it's fady), in fact when they don't want to do something, they claim a malagasy girl can not do it. One even did not want me to put gel on condom , I paid her to leave.

I went 3 days in Nosy Be (Ambatoulouk); its a village full of dust and there are only 3 or 4 bars for girls. You only see prostitutes there. A bit more expensive than Diego, and as they are not so numerous, the best seem to be taken for longtime by french .
The first i took had monthly period, it was new for me, so I stopped at once!

I spent 3 days in Antananarivo, dangerous city at night; lot of beggars, but police can bother and fine you at night if you do'nt have your passport with! they are corrupt. So I stayed near my hotel and went to Glacier Disco; no merina girls (you only see them in shops or administrations); it was packed with black girls, most average looking, only 2 went to me, they seemed hard pro.

For me madagascar is far from becoming the next Thailand; it's a very poor country, and more expensive for everything except girls.

[Johan Waans]

Just came back from Madagascar and hesitated a bit before writing this report because I do not really want to upset the people who seem to be so much in love with this part of the world.

First of all let me say that I am a very spoiled man, having been to almost 50 different countries in the world, and maybe that has a lot to do with my slight disappointment for the country.

Arrived late at night in Tana and could not get a flight anymore so went to the Glacier which was fully booked.Got a place near marche 'petite vitesse', if I remember well.There are a lot of street walkers there .I got one for 75 OOO fmg( 1 euro = 12 500).Very nice girl,but no french,so no communication, which to me is one of the main problems in Madagascar.

The next day I got a girl from the glacier. Again not so bad,but i must say that a lot of girls there are serious pro's who smoke and drink. I am not really fond of the malgache music either.Went to Indra as well .This place is not too bad and quite wild.But all in all Tana is quite boring,as stated in previous reports, and the beggars around Avenue de l'independance are a real pain in the ass.

Went to Majunga by plane and headed to the disco 'La Ravinala',which has been mentioned before. I would say that nearly all of the girls there are hardcore pro's who smoke and drink. I went there on a Saturday night. Got one from there anyway and again not too bad. Maybe I have just seen to much pussy in my life and I am getting too critical.

The town itself is very dead and there is not too much to do there during the day. Went cruising with a taxi driver (who spoke some French) and he told me I could point any girl I liked and he would go and talk to her. I saw a very beatiful Indian type girl and never thought he would pull it off, but she agreed to go with us to the beach. Again very little french,but this girl was definetely not a pro.

Rented a bungalow on the beach for a few hours and had a nice time again.

So I guess I should not really complain too much. Went back to Tana by taxi brousse. Left 8 am and got there at 6pm, not a bid ride either.

All in all I would say that if you have not travelled too much, Madagascar is definately not bad as long as you skip Tana. Of course there are many parts of the country I did not see,so you other people know a lot more about the place, so I hope you can forgive me my negative remarks.

[Poupard2000]

Dear Bahia Boy,

Some answers to your questions in (). IMHO.

(We are planning a late October trip to Madagascar. 3 weeks or so. Air Mad is offering $1000US rountrip from Paris. Not horrible considering the weak dollar.)

Yes it is the normal price. You can also try Corsair (Nouvelles Frontières). They are sometimes more competitive than Air Mad. October is a good period to travel in Madagascar

(1. There will be two of us travelling together. One is a white European and the other is African-American. What are the attitudes of Malagasy towards foreign black men?)

I have never been there with a black guy. I do not think that it is really a problem. Girls have often local boyfriends who are not really looking Swedish but I think that they are more attracted by Caucasian (exostism, cultural reasons & money). A black will be seen as a poor guy even if he is a millionaire. The Whites are seen as… Vazaha Be … Grand colon in French.. they are supposed to have more money. But if your friend is generous, non problem for him to get more pussies than expected.

(2. I speak pretty good French and have time to brush up on it and bring it up to a conversational level. My friend speaks NO French whatsoever. I would like to learn some Malagasy in the next few months. I cannot find a "Pimslueur Malagasy" or equivalent. Of course I can read the words, but I am not sure of the pronunciation so I need some sort of audio help. I could even use a Malagasy-French version. I have a Malagasy dictionary, but again, would like some audio help. Any ideas where I could purchase something like this?)

The local dialects are very different from official Malagasy (in fact the official Malagasy is Merina but hookers are often Sakalav)… Don’t loose time to learn Malagasy except if you like to learn unusual languages. French is the key… Some Spanish is spoken in Diego Suarez because there are a lot of Spanish fishermen there.

(3. We are not rich, but also not on a strict budget. We would like to hire a car and driver on a weekly basis. We like to get out into the countryside. Any ideas or contacts anyone has?)

To give you an idea, I have spent 5 weeks in Madagascar on a total budget of 1500 euros in last may/june. This including two flights (Tamatave/Diego & Tana Tuléar) and of course pussies every night but I have been cautious. Price of long time was between 100 000 fmg and 75 000 fmg. Concerning a car with a driver, it could be a good idea but SUV, like Toyota, are expansive (around 100 euros per day). The local common car is the Renault 4 .. not very confortable but reliable. I think that you can discuss the daily price with the local drivers. It depends on the distance more than the time. It is a pity but time has no real value in Madagascar but… gasoline is very expansive.

For long distance travels… Taxi brousse is a good and cheap alternative around 150 000 fmg to travel from Tuléar to Tana. You will discover the kindness of local people but of course it is tiring and it takes time. The landscape is often very nice (e.g. Majunga to Tana and Tuléar to Tana).

(Still reading all the reports from Sumart, Bucanero and Poupard. Thanks for your efforts in sharing your experiences!)

You are welcome. It was a pleasure.

Have a nice trip, respect the girls and don’t forget to book your hotel, at least in Tana especially if you want to be in Le Glacier.

[La Isla]

Hi all,

We are planning a late October trip to Madagascar. 3 weeks or so. Air Mad is offering $1000US rountrip from Paris. Not horrible considering the weak dollar.

1. There will be two of us travelling together. One is a white European and the other is African-American. What are the attitudes of Malagasy towards foreign black men?

2. I speak pretty good French and have time to brush up on it and bring it up to a conversational level. My friend speaks NO French whatsoever. I would like to learn some Malagasy in the next few months. I cannot find a "Pimslueur Malagasy" or equivalent. Of course I can read the words, but I am not sure of the pronunciation so I need some sort of audio help. I could even use a Malagasy-French version. I have a Malagasy dictionary, but again, would like some audio help. Any ideas where I could purchase something like this?

3. We are not rich, but also not on a strict budget. We would like to hire a car and driver on a weekly basis. We like to get out into the countryside. Any ideas or contacts anyone has?

Still reading all the reports from Sumart, Bucanero and Poupard. Thanks for your efforts in sharing your experiences!

[Sting]

Ok guys - since you want to see my pics.

Girl # 1

I think she is pregant.....

[Paolino]

In Mada more than elsewhere: You don't pay the girl to have sex with you, you pay her to leave. Watch out cuz they are superjealous down there, you'll get more than once to argue with the girl you had the night before about you flirting around with other girls in the disco. especially if you speak french they have a tendency to stick (i don't complaint about it since i met a real cutie and we really fitted)

have fun!

[Johan Waans]

Thanks for the information guys. You certainly have aroused my interest. Will post if I get there,if not in January it will be later this year.

[Paolino]

January is in the middle of the rain season in Mada...i don't know what rainy season means though; if it's rain all day or just some heavy and short showers 2 or 3 times a day as i never have been there during our winter months. The tour that Poupard describes you (Tana-Diego-Nosy Be- Majunga-Tana) is quite a classical tour and you shouldn't have any problems finding transportation means if you're making that circuit. French will open you every door in Mada. Take the flight with Air Madagascar as they have discounts on the national flights for whom flew the transcontinental flight with them. Some good advice: try to get the flight to Diego the same day as your arrival in Tana. It's not a nice city and you'll get harrassed by many beggars on Av. Indépendance in the city center; get to Tana 2 days before returning to Europe, that'll be plenty and will give you some tranquility in case a flight Majunga/Nosy BE/ Diego to Tana has some hours or even days delay (some told me it can happen!). If you want a new, good and clean hotel (10 Euro) in a very calm and beautiful block in Tana just ask me any time!