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[BushRusher]

As they say, YMMV. Think there are better hotels than the Hyatt for those on business. I am surprised she did not call to make sure you are a guest. Know some Eurasian Indians who pass themselves off as Europeans. Always wonder what the girls think once they find out. Kind of like Kirk Douglas' famous line after banging a woman.

I am Indian origin, so apparently will look Indian. Ben to Singapore twice. Stayed once in Hyatt and the other time in Novotel. I felt the hesitation from girls to approach me. I wasn't aware that time that my skin tone and ancestral origin were scaring them away. But eventually learned that Indians are not preferred by many girls. I agree that after staying for so many years in a foreign land, how such a majority of Indians did not adapt to the culture of Singaporeans. This is sad.

Twice I have been to Brix and both times managed to pickup one of the most beautiful Viets. Yeah, I fall for their skin tone and beauty. The problem I realized that the girl does not want to approach me. But once I said where I am staying and after talking for few minutes, they were all over me like other girls were with other visitors.

[NorskKing]

Have you seen how the caste system works in the subcontinent and how they treat each other, in their own home country? It is / will be eye opening.

Some from the subcontinent feel they have certain entitlements when outside their country. It was amazing that some / one of the participants of the unrest several years ago had just arrived on a compassionate visa. If they are / were so unhappy, please go back to their home country where they will most likely be treated worse and also have less opportunities.

You should see the workers from the subcontinent in other work sites around the world. For that matter, also the Chinese workers on some of those sites. Exploitation of workers is not racially unique.

I am Indian origin, so apparently will look Indian. Ben to Singapore twice. Stayed once in Hyatt and the other time in Novotel. I felt the hesitation from girls to approach me. I wasn't aware that time that my skin tone and ancestral origin were scaring them away. But eventually learned that Indians are not preferred by many girls. I agree that after staying for so many years in a foreign land, how such a majority of Indians did not adapt to the culture of Singaporeans. This is sad.

Twice I have been to Brix and both times managed to pickup one of the most beautiful Viets. Yeah, I fall for their skin tone and beauty. The problem I realized that the girl does not want to approach me. But once I said where I am staying and after talking for few minutes, they were all over me like other girls were with other visitors.

[BushRusher]

Where is Club Famous located?

Google is your friend. Never been but it does pop up.

[Marlboro Red]

Guys,

I will be in town at the end of Jan to early Feb for my first visit to Singapore in a long time. Is there anyone that want to meet up for a few beers, go to a KTV, hang out or visit some of the sites (OT, Geylang, Brix, etc)? Just PM me and we can talk further.

I really look forward to meeting some of you guys in town.

[Drbombay]

Hi everybody,

Spend a week or so in Singapore recently with another list member on here, just a observations and points.

We visited all of the usual places of fun, orchard towers, Brix, club famous (which has been mentioned quite a bit of late). Ohh and also spent a night in Batam.

Pretty much all of what has been said of these places is spot on prices, nationality and the like.

Seemed to me mostly young Viet girls at orchard towers, all seemed pretty quiet actually majority of the bars there, still a fun place to visit.

Personally I think don't waste your money and pay over 250 or 300 SGD is more than enough,.

Entry into Brix was 30 SGD from memory with a "complimentary drink" seemed a good range of nationality of ladies there, all tastes catered for, not sure about the prices scary didn't want to ask.

Clark quay is a great place to have a few drinks, bars here not cheap but has a great atmosphere, great place to sit around and watch the passing parade.

Batam was great also, it is a big change from Singapore, cheap and cold beer lots of bars in Nagoya, fantastic food at all hours of the night.

Finally it was the first time I have visited club famous, I didn't even know it existed after I read about on here.

Its a Filipino bar with 6 or 7 girls working, age from late 20,s though to 40 perhaps, the she w.

Seems its a BMD bar similar to those of orchard towers but cheaper, a previous poster mentioned the girls will go home with you after there shift is finished, I was chatting there to a girl whose names escapes me she mentioned she was happy with that arrangement.

So we exchanged mobile numbers but something told me she wouldn't be up for it. And as things would go she didn't call, oh well them the breaks, all up a great trip who's with me next time,.

Cheers lwd.

Where is Club Famous located?

[BushRusher]

Actually, the Brits, who essentially created and built Singapore, tended to use locals for manual labor, and import Indians as security / police. So Singapore wasn't built by subcontinentals, but rather by Malays and immigrants from south China (particularly Hainan). Indians, Sri Lankans, and Bangladeshi laborers came much later, in an independent Singapore desperate for unskilled labor after they became what they are today. Yes, Indians were in Singapore earlier, but more as merchants and police than laborers. Laborers and "coolies" working the quays were mostly Malay & Chinese.

Regarding how Indian mongers are treated, too often the behavior of their brethren before them, or their own behavior at present, has given some justification to bar owners, OKTs, and girls refusing service. Ive witnessed bad behavior too often, and heard unpleasant tales from girls Ive befriended. Many Indians are gentlemen. Too many are not.

Don't get mad, get even. I am a member of SBF and I spent some of my time busting their balls. And I agree with your evaluation about racism. Also, the forum is full of guys that have to preach about safe sex. I just posted in "screwing maids" thread telling them to fuck off and don't preach to the rest. Same user name as here for me. When an "ang mo" posts on a regular basis, I think it is shocking to the members there.

Join the forum and have fun with them.

Honestly, if you spend time in SG. You will see the "caste" system there. And those sweet maids are at the bottom of their list. Unbelievable comments about these human beings.

GG.

Have you seen how the caste system works in the subcontinent and how they treat each other, in their own home country? It is / will be eye opening.

Some from the subcontinent feel they have certain entitlements when outside their country. It was amazing that some / one of the participants of the unrest several years ago had just arrived on a compassionate visa. If they are / were so unhappy, please go back to their home country where they will most likely be treated worse and also have less opportunities.

You should see the workers from the subcontinent in other work sites around the world. For that matter, also the Chinese workers on some of those sites. Exploitation of workers is not racially unique.

Also, because of economics, many from the subcontinent, even if they are on student visas, resort to scams to stay or support themselves. I have know several Indo girls that fell for them and ended up being scammed. I sometimes make a bad joke and say that at least they were not gang raped. Or maybe losing several months salary is worse.

As for members of the subcontinent, the problem is especially prevalent with the older generation, even after achieving financial success overseas. They often hire their own country men to do the household labor and treat them and others like sub human. Had a friend who is a real cheap charlie though he drives a fancy sports car, owns buildings, is several magnitudes wealthier than even bankers, but is shocked and offended when some bars refuse him entry. I point out that he does not buy drinks while the ang mo will get at least one for himself and probably more. It is not racial, it is economics. Bars need punters to buy drinks. As do many WGs.

As for picking up freebies, SG girls are great and open to a good time. With a little investment in time, you can get freebies. But they are also smart and resourceful so you have to be careful to cover your tracks if they really fall for you. I always make sure that the gals know that I am just looking for a good time. It scares many away but it is better than having one knock on your door. Has happened to friends.

[LostWithinDays]

Hi everybody,

Spend a week or so in Singapore recently with another list member on here, just a observations and points.

We visited all of the usual places of fun, orchard towers, Brix, club famous (which has been mentioned quite a bit of late). Ohh and also spent a night in Batam.

Pretty much all of what has been said of these places is spot on prices, nationality and the like.

Seemed to me mostly young Viet girls at orchard towers, all seemed pretty quiet actually majority of the bars there, still a fun place to visit.

Personally I think don't waste your money and pay over 250 or 300 SGD is more than enough,.

Entry into Brix was 30 SGD from memory with a "complimentary drink" seemed a good range of nationality of ladies there, all tastes catered for, not sure about the prices scary didn't want to ask.

Clark quay is a great place to have a few drinks, bars here not cheap but has a great atmosphere, great place to sit around and watch the passing parade.

Batam was great also, it is a big change from Singapore, cheap and cold beer lots of bars in Nagoya, fantastic food at all hours of the night.

Finally it was the first time I have visited club famous, I didn't even know it existed after I read about on here.

Its a Filipino bar with 6 or 7 girls working, age from late 20,s though to 40 perhaps, the she w.

Seems its a BMD bar similar to those of orchard towers but cheaper, a previous poster mentioned the girls will go home with you after there shift is finished, I was chatting there to a girl whose names escapes me she mentioned she was happy with that arrangement.

So we exchanged mobile numbers but something told me she wouldn't be up for it. And as things would go she didn't call, oh well them the breaks, all up a great trip who's with me next time,.

Cheers lwd.

[Danibbler]

Is Keong Saik Rd (Chinatown area) worth a visit? Is there any action there?

As a red light district it is dead. There may be one or two legal brothels (if you can call one woman a brothel) left. There is one naughty spa with PRCs on one of the roads to the south.

[Danibbler]

Level 4: There is bar with ladyboys can't remember the name.

Crazy Horse? Lots of Indos now.

[Danibbler]

100-120 for Thais

Great post but for those Thais and their stables the pricing for 90 minutes and 2 shots (room included) is around SGD120 to SGD160. Maybe a tad higher.

[Questner]

Is Keong Saik Rd (Chinatown area) worth a visit? Is there any action there?

[Engine Driver]

Actually, the Brits, who essentially created and built Singapore, tended to use locals for manual labor, and import Indians as security / police. So Singapore wasn't built by subcontinentals, but rather by Malays and immigrants from south China (particularly Hainan). Indians, Sri Lankans, and Bangladeshi laborers came much later, in an independent Singapore desperate for unskilled labor after they became what they are today. Yes, Indians were in Singapore earlier, but more as merchants and police than laborers. Laborers and "coolies" working the quays were mostly Malay & Chinese.

Regarding how Indian mongers are treated, too often the behavior of their brethren before them, or their own behavior at present, has given some justification to bar owners, OKTs, and girls refusing service. Ive witnessed bad behavior too often, and heard unpleasant tales from girls Ive befriended. Many Indians are gentlemen. Too many are not.

Yes, that's true. But have you been on a construction site in Singapore lately and seen the nationality of the workers? Have you seen the living conditions of the Indian workers who do the toiling for the Chinese Singaporean contractor? Have you noticed the different safety standards on Singaporean construction sites depending on the colour of your skin? Apart from miling around Serangoon on a Sunday, what else are these poor Indian workers meant to do for entertainment? It's like hurry up and build my country, look after my kids, clean my house, spread your legs, but you will never be a human.

May be the Singaporeans are totally oblivious to how they treat other fellow human beings just so that they can get ahead.

[Drbombay]

I cannot link the forum here lah haha. Google is your friend here.

If you are Indian and thinking about Geylang, don't worry. Although you are most likely shut out of the PRC Chinese houses (particularly those $150 Category 'A' houses, the most expensive ones), the Thais and Viets and cheaper PRC houses should be accessible.

When in Rome, well, we just to follow what Romans do. Shrugs.

Thanks I will look it up. BTW, not Indian but American, just liked the character from Bewitched.

[Black Page]

When an "ang mo" posts on a regular basis, I think it is shocking to the members there.

I know this well. I started to post regularly on SBF Batam about 6 years ago. Lots of skeptical or even rather deprecative comments at the beginning after each post of mine. I felt clearly on my skin that people was not welcoming an ang mo posting in a forum where most posters are from Singapore, with a minority from Malaysia or Indonesia.

The typical bule in Batam is a Western man, with propension to alcohol, who patronizes almost exclusively the pubs in Kampung Bule, and tends to overpay well-seasoned bar girls working there (the only ones who can speak English, besides high-educated ladies, who have a good job and generally do not go to bars to meet a rich tourist to make cash). I don't go to Kampung bule, I never get drunk, I tend to avoid the girls who speak English (except those high-class and highly educated rich ladies, who are rare and elusive, if I have the rare chance to meet one), but I understand that there is some reason for prejudices.

The first time I wrote something against the common forum trend (see note *) my reputation points were zapped down severely. I played smart and I started to post regularly useful information, trying to be as much accurate as possible, while also playing the game of rep point exchange. Now I have almost 3500 points, and if an idiot zaps me it's like a mosquito bite. ALmost nobody else ever zapped me in the last years, however.

* Something like I don't waste my time to bargain with taxi drivers for the fee to pay from Harbour Bay to Nagoya, as I simply give them 50 k and I do not accept complains, because 50 k is the regular fare including some tip. Hard bargainers, mostly Chinese Singaporeans, bargain hard and can achieve 40 k or even less for the same ride, while new tourists are immediately identified by taxi drivers and are requested to pay 60 k or even 70 k ("chop carrot").
Note: 10k IDR = 1 SGD.
Bargaining is a religion for someone. However, if you go to Batam, you better tell the driver before entering the car how much you are going to pay.

[Ebauche]

The whole country was built on cheap Indian labour so that the Chinese could prosper.

Actually, the Brits, who essentially created and built Singapore, tended to use locals for manual labor, and import Indians as security / police. So Singapore wasn't built by subcontinentals, but rather by Malays and immigrants from south China (particularly Hainan). Indians, Sri Lankans, and Bangladeshi laborers came much later, in an independent Singapore desperate for unskilled labor after they became what they are today. Yes, Indians were in Singapore earlier, but more as merchants and police than laborers. Laborers and "coolies" working the quays were mostly Malay & Chinese.

Regarding how Indian mongers are treated, too often the behavior of their brethren before them, or their own behavior at present, has given some justification to bar owners, OKTs, and girls refusing service. I’ve witnessed bad behavior too often, and heard unpleasant tales from girls I’ve befriended. Many Indians are gentlemen. Too many are not.