Angeles City

[Sky Ryder]

Four days ago, I took a flying visit to Angeles City for a brief meet up with a friend.

We drove onto Fields Avve at about 2 pm, And it was, literally deserted. No cars, no trikes.

My friend, who owns a pub, said that there are no customers in town.

Looks like a good situation for a monger who likes the odds in his favour.

Gangles

Wow this is a BIG change from the last few months when I couldn't get a room at either of my favorite hotels. Maybe it's time to revisit!

[Gangles]

Four days ago, I took a flying visit to Angeles City for a brief meet up with a friend.

We drove onto Fields Avve at about 2 pm, And it was, literally deserted. No cars, no trikes.

My friend, who owns a pub, said that there are no customers in town.

Looks like a good situation for a monger who likes the odds in his favour.

Gangles

[Zona12]

BExample: You buy a drink for a girl, later you tell her you want to barfine her, then she tells you she has menstruation. No good. Wasted money for the ladies drink if you wanted to barfine her.

She (same as you) have a choice who she goes with. She saying her mens might have been a polite way of saying "No, you can not put your penis in me arse"

[Chocha Monger]

Barfines usually 1500 or 1800 Pesos, some bars even have barfines with 2000, 2500, 3000 and 4000 Pesos.

Ladies drinks usually between 125. 150 Pesos.

Drinks for the man usually 50. 65 Pesos during Happy Hour and 85. 95 Pesos.

The attitude of the girls went down since my last visit in November 2009.

Example: You buy a drink for a girl, later you tell her you want to barfine her, then she tells you she has menstruation. No good. Wasted money for the ladies drink if you wanted to barfine her.

You still can find good looking girls in AC but you more find them in the 2000 Pesos and up barfine category now.

I will not come back to AC anymore probably because I do not like it anymore. Except the girls everything has become rather expensive for what you get: accomodation and food compared to the prices you usually have to pay in the Philippines.

Dwight D Eisenhower, once said that he, 'learned to expect a maximum of promise and a minimum of performance' from Filipinos.

[Zona12]

if they wanted to clean the **** girls from the industry they could have started with the cam girls. i recently got told by one girl (now 19) she started working cam when 14.

my gf was a 16 yo cherry girl and worked 3 years and made lots of mone. why

she even looks 16 now at age of 20

[Pussycheck]

Barfines usually 1500 or 1800 Pesos, some bars even have barfines with 2000, 2500, 3000 and 4000 Pesos.

Ladies drinks usually between 125. 150 Pesos.

Drinks for the man usually 50. 65 Pesos during Happy Hour and 85. 95 Pesos.

The attitude of the girls went down since my last visit in November 2009.

Example: You buy a drink for a girl, later you tell her you want to barfine her, then she tells you she has menstruation. No good. Wasted money for the ladies drink if you wanted to barfine her.

You still can find good looking girls in AC but you more find them in the 2000 Pesos and up barfine category now.

I will not come back to AC anymore probably because I do not like it anymore. Except the girls everything has become rather expensive for what you get: accomodation and food compared to the prices you usually have to pay in the Philippines.

[Member #4698]

Why go to Pattaya.

This is a quick noobie question. From research it seems that AC is much cheaper than Thailand and Pattaya for that matter. It seems the prices double in Thailand. So why are so many people still heading for Thailand and not AC?

If you could do a SE asian trip and have two weeks to spare for AC and Pattaya, how many days would you devote to each? Obviously you would spend a few days in Pattaya just for the experience. What is so good about Pattaya that is not avaiiable in AC?

Thanks,

The quick answer is that it is not about the money. If I was a newbie and had 2 weeks to spend in South East Asia, I would spend 5 days in Pattaya, 5 days in AC, and 4 days in BKK or some variant of that.

But why frame the question as either or? Variety is the spice of life. Filipinas, Thais, Khmers, Chinese girls, Indonesians, Mongolian, Vietnamese and Japanese girls are all worth doing. Eating chicken for dinner every day gets boring. Sometimes you want some baby back ribs, or maybe shrimp gumbo. That's why I am glad there is a Thailand and a PI. And by the way, don't limit yourself to just AC and Pattaya. That can get monotonous too, especially when great times can be had in BKK, Macau, HKG, CP, Penh, MNL, and Cebu just to mention a few other worthwhile watering holes. In fact, I prefer BKK over Pattaya and I am not sold on the idea that AC is the best place in PI to monger.

AC and Pattaya are similar in many ways, but are also very different. Both towns are pretty much one horse towns dedicated to loose women and bars, although Pattaya has pretensions to being a beach resort. Pattaya has better restaurants and more non sexual daytime activities. I like taking long walks down Jomtien Beach. You can't do that anywhere in AC. AC has no pretensions or airs that it is something it is not, especially when you are on the strip. And that is not a bad thing.

As to the women; Thai and Filipinas are very different. I could write a short book explaining the differences. I happen to like Thai girls a little better, but it is definitely a good change up to be with Filipinas. Filipinas speak English and act more American if you know what I mean. Thais girls are more mysterious and 'Eastern' again, if you know what I mean. IMHO Thai girls are better looking, have better bodies and are more hygienic. Filipinas can be more GF and wilder in bed. These are big generalizations and I do not mean to apply them to individual girls. YMMV, but as an example I have never mistakenly bar fined a Thai girl while she was on her "mens". ' Thai girls won't do that. But this has happened to me a couple of times with Filipinas.

So generally I prefer Thai girls over Filipinas. Other guys like Filipinas better. It is a matter of personal taste. When I was at Sabang Beach, Palawan in March, I ran into an American guy there on the beach. He had a beautiful Filipina GF with him. She was smoking hot and it was obvious he had known her for a long time. We had a few beers and talked. He was my exact opposite. While I have spent the last 10 years mostly in Thailand (this was my first trip to PI.) , he had spent the last 10 years almost exclusively in PI. You can imagine the conversation we had. Each of us told the other of our favorite hangouts and things we liked best about these two very different countries. I plan to spend more time in PI over the next ten years. There are a lot of fantastic beaches to see and a lot of girls to bang. But I will always stop off in Thailand for obvious reasons. I love Thai girls.

[Dveight]

Try Air Asia

They will fly Via KUL

Or there is Tiger Air which Fly Via SIN

The first Air Asia flight from BKK does not get to KUL until after the only KUL. CRK flight leaves in the morning, you end up having to spend the night in KUL, get up really early and fly to CRK. I tried it once and it was a big pain, I would have been better off flying to MNL, and driving to AC

[Droplet]

Why go to Pattaya.

This is a quick noobie question. From research it seems that AC is much cheaper than Thailand and Pattaya for that matter. It seems the prices double in Thailand. So why are so many people still heading for Thailand and not AC?

If you could do a SE asian trip and have two weeks to spare for AC and Pattaya, how many days would you devote to each? Obviously you would spend a few days in Pattaya just for the experience. What is so good about Pattaya that is not avaiiable in AC?

Thanks,

[Sammon]

McDon, I didn't understand $7 thing. Did you mean:

1. Saving money by having a bargirl come over after her shift (as opposed to paying the EWR)?

Or.

2. Saving money by taking the SW for p300 (as opposed to Santos, at p700)? I didn't take the SW, I'm just saying that I get touts from SW for 300-700 typically after the bars are closing. 'Worth the risk' is up to each gent.

I will PM you.

1. I have given my phone numbers to bargirls and they have called and showed up in my room many times.

This should be done discreetly. I always carry pre-written slips of paper with my phone number.

All say they are afraid to loose the job if found out. The problem if they staying at the boarding house along with other girls they stay only short time. There is plenty of rivalry and back biting among girls. They always report to the mamasan that a perticular girl who is not barfined did not come home for the night. ST usually are happy with 500-800 pesos.

Those who stay on their own do stay LT and if you want the whole next day also. Cost will be 1000 pesos plus food.

Those girls who are new in AC are less likely to do this because they are afraid of loosing their breadwinner staus for their families.

2. I have picked up freelancers on the street as well as disco. It is not that dangerous if you use a clear head.

Most of the girls are former bargirls or barfined runners.

Just be carefull to use protection because the girls might have failed hygiene examination (whatever that is) and told to stay home for two weeks.

[Mc Don]

if they wanted to clean the **** girls from the industry they could have started with the cam girls. i recently got told by one girl (now 19) she started working cam when 14.

[Mc Don]

Out of curiosity why was she transferred to Manila?

I have no idea. I am just reporting what mamasan told me. All I know is that 2 days after the honeypot was closed she was still in police custody. I didn't ask anything else as I was leaving anyway and I didn't want to open a gate for them to start begging for money to bail her out or anything.

[WestCoast1]

To West Coast,

I come across SW like this in burgos and Malate in manila also very young girl look like on drug that will go with you for 500 peso for all night, it just sound too good to be true just don't take a chance it can be a scam, there are girls across the st from the hyigene hospital mamasan want 300 peso upfront for st most girl look old and dirty.

Fast Eddie 48

Interesting. I've received several PM's from gents warning that I should not have taken the SW who offered herself for that amount. I didn't take her. I was just saying in the post that there are girls (and bakla) who will work for that. There are also regular bar-girls who will work for 500 after her shift or on her night off (that includes the high-priced girls). Some will even come over for free (usually older, 30's, waitresses) if there is McDo, drinks, or breakfast involved.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Stumbling around the corner past Kok's at 3:15am, being pestered by about 5 streetgirls (or whatever they were) : "Please sir 300 even I do anything." Also there are regular bargirls who will LT with you after their shift ends for 500 if they like you. That's less than their usual p750 (half the EWR) , but if she's been with you and likes you, then 500 is better than zero.

To West Coast,

I come across SW like this in burgos and Malate in manila also very young girl look like on drug that will go with you for 500 peso for all night, it just sound too good to be true just don't take a chance it can be a scam, there are girls across the st from the hyigene hospital mamasan want 300 peso upfront for st most girl look old and dirty.

Fast Eddie 48

[Cheesemark75]

i am not here to debate the content. the point is there is and maybe you are missing it, is that there is a general theme emerging or trend. of attention on these bars and foreign operators and they are going to be easy targets.

not saying someone would, but it would be pretty easy to plant **** girls in the bars.

in my books that is three hits, the danish cam site operators, honey pot now this new story.

you make a good point frank4220. journalists, politicians, police, conservative anti-prostitution organizations, etc, etc, they tend to go after easier targets and low-hanging fruit.

the more popular ac is the bigger target they are. furthermore, anything related to foreigners are big in the news whereas killings in violent neighborhoods might not even make it to the news. of course, one can easily pay a hooker to say whatever they want. planting **** girls, i think, is a much bigger operation, and is guaranteed to be much bigger news.

i haven't seen any proof that ****d prostitution is commonplace in ac. of course i believe it is there somewhere, as well as in other sex-tourism destinations like thailand also. but after thousands and thousands of arrests, they should be able to net more than a handful. nobody, so far, has been able to provide reliable data that ****d prostitution is indeed prevalent. even dubious / fraudulent claims are very low.