FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[BackpackBrian]

Thanks for the tip about night train from Frankfurt to Villach. Very interesting!

Your report showed up with a delay (after my response to BPB). We both have good experiences at Wellcum. I still think one should explore Oase, Palace, Mainhattan before leaving Frankfurt though (at least Oase). But to each their own.

Hi.

I'll be with a buddy in Pattaya from Dec 28 - Jan 15, but I'd like to stop off in Germany on may way home (USA), and while I'm very familiar with Frankfurt (Sharks, Oase, Palace, Mainhatten) and NRW and all those clubs, I'm very partial to all the fully nude FKK clubs.

I've been to Zurich many times but mostly went to Club Globe, but I've read that the other clubs in and around Zurich (Palace, Club Swiss, Freubad, Amesia, etc) are fully nude FKK clubs (at least on some days).

I've never been to Austria and wanted to see Wellcum, Andiamo, Goldentime, Babylon, Maxim and I was just told Wellcum has 2 days per week that are fully nude FKK.

Question. If you were going to pick a European country that had the highest number of fully nude FKK clubs, not in the Frankfurt area, where would you go?

Austria, Switzerland or somewhere else in Germany outside Frankfurt?

I'd like to hit at least one area or country with lots of full nude FKK's before I make my way to Frankfurt to visit the big 5. Then I'll head back to the states at the end of the month.

[HappyTour]

I've reiterated this countless times: the 200/60 rate is only to the most attractive young girls. Approximately around 10% girls inside club deserve that. But there are always ones who deliberately misinterpret my point and consider I overpaying all the girls.

200/60, I always can get good service with GFE from girls I like. But 100/30 only get basic service with bad attitude in Sharks. I am not as lucky as Sirioja who spent only 150/60 could still get best GFE service.

Beautiful young women have always been scarce.

But money is Not scarce. You can earn anyway.

So if 200 euro could f*k a beautiful young girl one hour, I do.

[HappyTour]

Emma is max. A 6 .

And melanie with her unnormal big ass is max. A 5.

The last 5 x I was in sharks, they both only seat at the bar and waiting for customers.

I.

I didn't assert that Emma and Melanie are the top tier. I just emphasized that even if girls are considered average, they can still be popular among specific customer groups if they find a niche to fill.

Of course prime time for girls are very short. For example Melanie was Someone's Snow White" in 2015. Not anymore now.

[BarryManila]

Recently I offered 1000 euro to book Maria from 2 pm to 11 pm on a Thursday, but she politely declined in indirect way. She said many guests were waiting for her. I knew most customers only book her 100/30 at that slow day but she still got enough business because too many guys competed with me. So from 2 pm to 11 pm she could easily earn 1000 in 9 hours.

Sorry, but she will be too bored with you, 9 hours with just one man.

[Bonsai]

I believe that is one of the problems with Sharks at the moment. Not enough new talent. Too many old faces that have been there for years. I've heard from a regular that more new faces can be found at Oase and at Samya.

Sharks has also new faces, BUT those are the scammers from other clubs.

200/ h is not the limit, many girls even try 250/ h or even 300/ h for GFE / DFK.

And I know too many guys paying 300-400€/ h.

So even 200/ h don't ensure good service right now. Soo sad.

[ParSeeker]

Thanks to Anyone who want to stop visiting sharks. The less customers the less competition for attractive girls. Subsequently the pressure of hiking prices would also diminish. Thus would turn into buyers' market.

I don't mind pay 200/60 for the most beautiful beauties with best service attitude. But I don't want to see too many While complaining about the prices being too high, but also competing with me for attractive women.

So the win-win situation is that:

1) some guys save their precious toil and sweat hardest-earned money by stop visiting Sharks.

2) I get attractive women with less competition and cost-effectiveness.

Recently I offered 1000 euro to book Maria from 2 pm to 11 pm on a Thursday, but she politely declined in indirect way. She said many guests were waiting for her. I knew most customers only book her 100/30 at that slow day but she still got enough business because too many guys competed with me. So from 2 pm to 11 pm she could easily earn 1000 in 9 hours.

I believe that is one of the problems with Sharks at the moment. Not enough new talent. Too many old faces that have been there for years. I've heard from a regular that more new faces can be found at Oase and at Samya.

[ParSeeker]

I was in the same predicament. I'm based in Frankfurt but it seemed long a long journey just to go there.

I didn't regret going though. I did a weekend trip down on a flixbus on a Friday and got back to Frankfurt in time for work on Monday.

I caught a flixbus to karlsruhe and then from karlsruhe to villach so that I could sleep uninterrupted from 12 AM to 8 AM which I did do.

Quite comfortably. Woke up fully refreshed in villach at 8 AM.

To get a BBBJ you have to buy the "cum in mouth extra" which is 50 euros on top of the 70.

This was not my experience recently. The standard 70/30 included BBBJ. It's always nice to add a tip of 10 or 20 euros.

[Sirioja]

Thanks to Anyone who want to stop visiting sharks. The less customers the less competition for attractive girls. Subsequently the pressure of hiking prices would also diminish. Thus would turn into buyers' market.

I don't mind pay 200/60 for the most beautiful beauties with best service attitude. But I don't want to see too many While complaining about the prices being too high, but also competing with me for attractive women.

So the win-win situation is that:

1) some guys save their precious toil and sweat hardest-earned money by stop visiting Sharks.

2) I get attractive women with less competition and cost-effectiveness.

Recently I offered 1000 euro to book Maria from 2 pm to 11 pm on a Thursday, but she politely declined in indirect way. She said many guests were waiting for her. I knew most customers only book her 100/30 at that slow day but she still got enough business because too many guys competed with me. So from 2 pm to 11 pm she could easily earn 1000 in 9 hours.

How do you want to compete versus speaking Russian? Did you ever touch her, even overpaying?

[Sirioja]

Just because they speak 2/3 sentence, don't means they speak a language.

Believe me, both will laugh you out, after they got your money!

Emma is max. A 6 .

And melanie with her unnormal big ass is max. A 5.

The last 5 x I was in sharks, they both only seat at the bar and waiting for customers.

I haven't seen them doing any business.

Real beauty asian hunter were cosmina, evita, helen, daria, but they are not in sharks anymore.

Cosmina is at Oase and likes me now. Funny what she asked me few months ago, but I never forget.

[Sirioja]

None of those other clubs provide a similar level of optics+quantity as Welcum. Logistics of travel is not as simple but an easy solution is using overnight trains and busses that allow you to combine sleep plus travel time. I've taken overnight trains to wake up in Villach ready to hit up the club. On the way back was even easier having taken an 8 hour overnight train to Stuttgart transfer at 9 am then arriving at to Darmstadt by 11 am. There is even an overnight train that takes you directly to Frankfurt from Villach. I couldn't find a direct train going the other direction though.

Many clubs in Germany are higher level for me than Wellcum and Globe, lands of silicon, many not fkissing at Wellcum, so I don't pay for this. Marina. Slo was higher level for me.

[Howie]

I've been wanting to go to Wellcum for many years, but it seems a little out of the way if I'm in the Frankfurt area.

Question 1 - Is the club full nude (FKK) or do the girls wear bikini's and lingerie when they walk around?

Question 2 - Does the 70 Euro include BBBJ or is it covered?

On the subject of FKK days, most recently I was told it was on Sunday and Wednesday when I called them this past September. Previously it used to be Monday, Thursday and Friday during the summer of 2022. Not sure if the Sunday and Wednesday dates has changed since then so best to call them ahead of time to enquire if you plan to visit on a FKK day.

By the way, for any Wellcum regulars, has anyone tried out new girl Kasy at Wellcum? Her body looks amazingly stunning. Tempted to revisit next March if she is still available there.

Thanks. Howie.

[Shark16]

None of those other clubs provide a similar level of optics+quantity as Welcum. Logistics of travel is not as simple but an easy solution is using overnight trains and busses that allow you to combine sleep plus travel time. I've taken overnight trains to wake up in Villach ready to hit up the club. On the way back was even easier having taken an 8 hour overnight train to Stuttgart transfer at 9 am then arriving at to Darmstadt by 11 am. There is even an overnight train that takes you directly to Frankfurt from Villach. I couldn't find a direct train going the other direction though.

Thanks for the tip about night train from Frankfurt to Villach. Very interesting!

Your report showed up with a delay (after my response to BPB). We both have good experiences at Wellcum. I still think one should explore Oase, Palace, Mainhattan before leaving Frankfurt though (at least Oase). But to each their own.

[Enphl]

Keep up the hobby and unless you are meticulous and insist on hammering all pricing details every time and you'll eventually get it every so often. I've been doing this for 15 years and a girl tried it last week. Usually it's the girl trying to see what she can get but has no intent on going to reception. I usually just give her the amount I calculate and gracefully say goodbye. Every time, the girl will be pleasant when she sees me again and several I have sessioned with again later.

Sure, I'm sure it exists, it's just seems pretty rare for a girl to try to pull something like that. Upsell during session, sometimes. Recalculation of fee AFTER session, really rare. Most of my experience is not at FKKs so maybe its different. Unless it is an FKK or brothel where I'm essentially getting a somewhat random girl, I usually only see girls that are well reviewed so that helps the odds. Most times (not at fkk), I have to pay upfront and so there isnt really much opportunity for a girl to try to scam you other than offering an upsell during the session. FKKs are kind of unique in the world. good and bad.

[Shark16]

Not New York but California.

What do you recommend?

It is still difficult to recommend anything. I have been trying to read your 2023 reports, but it is not clear to me what you have experienced this year, what your preferences are, and what you are looking for. I am therefore just assuming that you are one of the many Sharks fanboys who is offput by the latest reports about the 200 E /60 pricing and thus looking for alternatives.

If this assumption is correct, then Hessen is #1 go to place for FKK clubs. I would explore the other FKK clubs in Hessen (and not at least NRW) before making any Austria visits. The FKK scene in Germany is generally much bigger than Austria with tons of options (cannot be compared).

If I am wrong, and that you have much more experience with the Germany FKK clubs than I initially believed, but for some reason are bored with the Germany FKK scene feeling adventurous seeking something fresh and new, then sure why not. You can then skip Frankfurt and take a flight to Vienna or Klagenfurt in stead. Logistics to Austria would then make more sense.

- IMHO Wellcum is a very nice club that can compete with Sharks / Oase. It's not better, but not worse (heated outside pool and Italian food as biggest pros).

- LU is good (70+ girls on the weekend?) with quality on par with Sharks/Oase (not better/not worse).

- Biggest plus for Wellcum is less upselling than at Sharks / Oase (but also less kissing), but upsell is far from being non-existing. If you are able to play your cards right you can quite easily get a quality session at Wellcum from 70 E /30 or 140 e /60 (BBBJ / CFS / DATY and possibly kissing). I am yet to hear anyone quoting 200 E /60 at Wellcum (that is VERY rare).

So for 2- 3 days Wellcum is perfect. But there are no good alternatives in Austria as far as my experiences goes. So if you plan for 1- 2 weeks, then you will need alternatives to Wellcum, and again, logistics is far more easy in Germany.

As you can see, it is impossible to give clear recommendations unless you provide more information about length of stay, your personal preferences, usw.

[Shark16]

To get a BBBJ you have to buy the "cum in mouth extra" which is 50 euros on top of the 70.

Not my experience at all. BBBJ is pretty much standard service in a 70 E session at Wellcum.

It's not that there are exceptions. Girls will try to upsell a little also here if they regard you as new face in the club. Typically they will try to sell a GFE package for 30 E that includes kissing and DATY. I am yet to hear that they refuse to provide BBBJ as a standard. For 140 E /60 I usually get DFK / BBBJ / DATY / CFS with COB / COT added for free if I want.

You got upsold this time. Next time I bet you will able to avoid those situations.