Aruba

[Koolj]

I am planning on making my very first mongering trip this may, I have been having a hard time deciding between Dominican republic SXM and Aruba. Based off what you guys have said I am leaning towards Aruba however, can the same things that happen in Aruba happen in sxm as far as getting chicas during the day etc. ? I really don't like having to meet girls in brothels and such and would much rather have girls over at my airbnb, with that in mind do you guys agree that Aruba is better? Also what is the general pricing for an overnight or day trip with a girl on these islands?

Have either of y'all been to the Dominican and if you can compare please let me know would be grateful.

[Scubatoo]

Long time visitor to SXM, and now somewhat of a veteran of Aruba, specifically San Nicolas. I can't speak about The Mill, or escort services, or anything else on Aruba short of the only official RLD on the island. Been debating whether to return to SXM post hurricane, as it appear to recover, or go back to the seediness of San Nicolas. And despite some of my not too glamorous San Nicolas reports of the past, I just may return to Aruba, for nothing more than just a better thrill of the hunt! LOL......

Having been to St. Maarten many times, and to San Nicolas, Club Ted has made many very valid points. Although I go to St. Maarten every year, I really want to get back to Aruba. I had great fun exploring the talent in SN, and the excellent intel Club Ted has provided just heightens that desire. The key in both destinations is to have the confidence to approach and engage these girls. Good things flow from it. If you don't have the confidence, or the time to invest on vacation, the ease of going to a club in St. Maarten and having a good session is almost a no brainer. But if you have game, and time, and love the thrill of the hunt like I do, Aruba is a fun place to explore it. Many will be surprised that Barbados has lots of options now as well to engage with the dozens of beautiful Jamaican girls now working there. You can see my post on the Barbados thread for more on that. Knowing some Spanish helps in both St. Maarten and San Nicolas. Google translate is great at helping communication. And all the Colombian, Jamaican and DR girls are using WhatsApp these days, so it is easy to keep in contact with the girls throughout your stay and beyond.

As for travel from one side of Aruba to the other, remember the entire island is less than 20 miles long. And the highway that runs from the Gold Coast to SN is quite good. Yes, it takes a little while to go from Point A to Point be, but certainly manageable. In St. Maarten, if you stay in Simpson Bay or Maho, it can take just as long because of slow traffic.

[Quagmire1974]

BTW, my hotel was near the Mill (odd location) and I stopped by numerous times even after 1 am as was recommended and I'm of the opinion that the place wasn't presently open. Seemed like renovations going on.

Interesting that renovations were going on during the height of the tourist season. But that might be a good sign, as renovations can mean that a place is gaining in popularity and management (old or new) is trying to spruce the place up to be more visually appealing. Perhaps renovations at The Mill will bring more tourists and even more WGs together.

[ClubTed]

Long time visitor to SXM, and now somewhat of a veteran of Aruba, specifically San Nicolas. I can't speak about The Mill, or escort services, or anything else on Aruba short of the only official RLD on the island. Been debating whether to return to SXM post hurricane, as it appear to recover, or go back to the seediness of San Nicolas. And despite some of my not too glamorous San Nicolas reports of the past, I just may return to Aruba, for nothing more than just a better thrill of the hunt! LOL.

SXM is a great destination with alot of variety, many clubs, but also, what I'm comparing vs. Aruba. Many people, sampling the goods! Sounds like the locals are really descending on the clubs at night, and when cruise ships are in port, Carolinas, Crystals, and Empire are pretty bustling. This has always been the case, but after my last visit to Aruba, and giving it some thought. Whereas it's a sellers market in SXM, it's a buyers market in SN!

San Nicolas is so off the beaten path, that only hard core tourists staying in the north, and locals in the know, cruise the streets and alleys of the small town. In other words, you're not going to find a jamming scenario during the day at a bar in San Nicolas, like you would at Carolinas at two in the afternoon. From my observations, you don't get the cruise ship crowds or crews trekking down from Oranjestad to SN. So, point one, the chicas are readily available during the day, and are basically free lancers!

Evenings are a bit different in SN. The bars are open, the girls are working, and its a game of numbers for them. And since SN at dark isn't Times Square, the girls work as quickly as possible to make up at night, for what didn't materialize during the day. So point two, is to refrain from partaking at night. You may want to scope out the talent in the bars and on the streets and take notes, but here's my advice to get the best out of your San Nicolas experience.

First, if you're staying up north in the high rise hotel district, be prepared to do some driving. It's a doable drive from Noord to SN, but, spending an inordinate amount of time in a rental car, isn't my idea of a tropical vacation. So if you stay in a property close to SN, you've got location on your side.

Second, daytime recon is extremely important, and this starts as early as 5 am! There is a small Latin covered cafe across from Fan Restaurant and three blocks up from the entrance to the oil refinery, that serves as mission control for the chicas. Those chicas that didn't get taken out for the night are keyed up and gravitate here at the crack of dawn to continue the nighttime party. And yes, you can get a beer at 5 or 5:30 am When the place opens. Usually there's a couple of local playboy / drug dealer guys sitting on stools with their favorite girls, but you've got a great opportunity to start some conversations with some chicas that could lead to you being with them for the entire day. The next window of opportunity is around lunch time, when more will show up in casual clothes and either order take out or eat in at the bar. Another opportunity to either set something up in her room or take her out for the afternoon to Baby Beach or some shopping in the area or back to your place if you're fairly close by.

Speaking of rooms, someone recently mentioned the rooms the San Nicolas girls stay in. Yes, they are pretty depressing, so if you've got game, any chance they have to change they're surroundings is a feather in your cap!

Third, if you've met and visited a chica either from the Latin cafe, or from cruising around and seeing one with her door open during the day, you're best bet for TLN is to tell her you will pick her up after she's done working at 2 am, and take her back to your place. The damage is minimal, no bar fine involved, and the last time I did it, the chica had her shopping bag like pocket book ready as I cruised around and spied her outside her bar and she jumped in my car and off we went until around 9 am The next morning. At which time, I had my fill and decided to take her back home.

Fourth, the price is right. During the day, you can visit a chica for 50 florin, which is about thirty bucks. Make it 60 florin and you're a hero. Compare that to the fifty at SXM plus room key, plus the twenty minute rule. In Aruba, nobody during the day is going to be banging on anybody's door.

Lastly, by offering to be a driver for the chica, whether it be for her medical appointment, a grocery store run, a visit to Wendy's, anything to get her out of the monotony of San Nicolas, goes a long way. And if you're staying close by, it's an easy segway to get the chica back to your place for food and drink. Most won't want to get wasted during the day, but a fridge full of food and some cold Balashis goes a long way! Last October I had a Colombiana back in my apartment and she devoured all my lunch meats and cheese without even making a sandwich!

So in summary, even though a visit to San Nicolas is concentrated and doesn't offer the 6 or 7 different clubs that SXM offers, you've got a more "buyer" friendly environment, that I think can be more conducive to GFE encounters, if you've got game and play your cards right.

Now all I need is airfare and accommodations to fall into place, and Aruba, I'll be back next month! If anyone has any specific questions, feel free to PM me.

[Geffe71]

Anyway, Tinder offered a small group of island providers most asking +$150.
And yes, it was convenient that she was dropped off at my hotel (funny story about bringing her up unnoticed. LOL).

Aside from Tinder, I did see an advertisement in a local paper for this Escort Service: Honey Dolls (5xx-xx35) but please note I did not use their service as from what I heard, it's a more bachelor party type deal so prob really expensive and yet again, no guarantee that you'll like what's delivered.

Tinder is a good tool. Met a few freelancers on Tinder. Sounds like your provider was part of one of the services on the island (Honey Dolls, Yap Yum, Platinum, Pleasure). I matched with someone and happened to see the same photo on one of the services websites.

I've only done Yap Yum (for some reason they were not advertising when I was on island in November, but we're in the paper the past two times prior) and went on their website to look at some of their girls to get an idea, then I messaged them to see who was available and my preferences and they sent me pictures to pick from or I could as for others. I will probably use them again along with some freelancers to mix it up a bit. The freelancers I've had the past two years were awesome, sun and fun and a killer body.

[XBeatle]

So, I was there from 12/16-23rd.

I had a really nice time. Bottom line.

Great weather, gorgeous room / view, snorkeling, great dining, made $$$ gambling 8-.

I also thought that many of the basic offerings were insanely expensive. So, keep that in mind.

As far as mongering goes, I had a car so I took the journey to San Nicholas one night and let's just say that I didn't get out of my car. I just circled around the 4 block square region and thought better of it.

Not saying there was any hint of bad intentions, it's just that I'm a late night monger-er and prefer a more accommodating offering where I'm not stressing about walking down grim, darkly lit side-streets to find a place to hang my hat. Among other things.

Personally, I prefer the setup in places like San Martin where the establishment's have multiple provider options. So, once you're in, you're kind of good to go. Grab a drink and watch the show. Until you see what you want. But even in the places on Saint Martin, my head is on a swivel on the way too / from their parking lots. LOL.

The "buildings & rooms" the girls of SN work out of appeared dingy and more like prisons (Again I didn't actually go in any but I saw a lot of barred windows).

Probably the main reason I decided to loop around and head back north was that the women I did see hawking their wares outside these dingy places weren't really my kind.

No doubt the island is highly populated with Venezuelan girls and personally, they're just too fake (boobs, excessive makeup & perfume. Etc. Etc) for my liking. Not too mention that I'm not a big fan of large butts.

I prefer a bit more of a subtle, smaller, thinner, classic spinner look rather than a trumpet blasting pea-cocking "look at me baby" type of provider. Just my preference.

That being said, and since I was "motivated" by the prior nights odyssey, I ordered in via Tinder as it was hard to find any mongering outside of dingy SN. And I asked around (waiters. Etc. Etc).

I'm prob sure I could of found something if I frequented Oranjestad a bit more but I was quite comfy in my northern neck of the woods and not in the mood to deal with vast crowds of locals heading to the casinos in OJ. Maybe next visit.

Anyway, Tinder offered a small group of island providers most asking +$150.

The girl I chose ended up having older photos on her profile (Tinder?, go figure. LOL) and she was 100% mechanical.

If experience has proven anything to me it's that I prefer going to an establishment and choosing someone after seeing and talking with them (and yes, I'm aware that this doesn't actually guarantee a non robotic performance).

The good news was I bargained her down a bit before making the deal. So, not such a big loss.

And yes, it was convenient that she was dropped off at my hotel (funny story about bringing her up unnoticed. LOL).

Aside from Tinder, I did see an advertisement in a local paper for this Escort Service: Honey Dolls (5xx-xx35) but please note I did not use their service as from what I heard, it's a more bachelor party type deal so prob really expensive and yet again, no guarantee that you'll like what's delivered.

This is why I won't consider Aruba in any future "mongering centric" trips that I take.

BTW, my hotel was near the Mill (odd location) and I stopped by numerous times even after 1 am as was recommended and I'm of the opinion that the place wasn't presently open. Seemed like renovations going on.

All in all, I had a really nice, relaxing vacation and will be going back again.

Hope this helps.

X.

[LoveVegas]

Love to know how your experience was at the Mill Resort when you return. I've heard some bad reviews because of the renovations. Thinking about staying there in January. Nice to hear first hand from a trusted source. Thanks!

The mill resort is great. Rooms are huge and very clean. Staff is great as well. Just short walk to the beach or take the free shuttle. For the price you can't beat it and the bar at night is great just few steps away.

[JackMich]

I'll be there in Aruba the 15th staying at the mill. If your around and want hook up this is my 4th trip and know the st Nicolas area pretty good.

Love to know how your experience was at the Mill Resort when you return. I've heard some bad reviews because of the renovations. Thinking about staying there in January. Nice to hear first hand from a trusted source. Thanks!

[XBeatle]

I'll be there in Aruba the 15th staying at the mill. If your around and want hook up this is my 4th trip and know the st Nicolas area pretty good.

Let me try this again. LOL.

So yeah Vegas, I'm game. Text me [Telephone Number deleted by Admin] and we'll chat prior to trip.

Xbeatle.

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[XBeatle]

Just get a local SIM at the airport. I also suggest looking at frequencycheck.com to make sure your device supports all or most LTE bands on Aruba, otherwise you may get stuck on 3 G. If you have not yet downloaded Whatsapp, do so now. This is how ALL girls communicate. They do not make voice calls any more.

Quality of Wi-Fi will depend on where you go.

I am not sure what sites you are thinking of. Best thing to do would be brush up on your Spanish at least a bit if you do not speak it.

Really appreciate the info Tbird. I need to stop in at AT&T over weekend and get short term Int'l plan added as not so sure about local SIM at airport. And yeah, although I use Facebook Messenger for like everything, I need to brush up on my What's App chops. LOL.

Thanks again.

[LoveVegas]

Going down to get out of the cold, enjoy some nice ocean, snorkel, gamble maybe, monger a little, visit San Nicolas.

Questions:

- I have AT&T here in States for my phone. Should I get int'l plan add-on or buy a pre-loaded phone when down there?

- How about Internet / Wifi situation?

- Any "meet local women" bar / restaurant suggestions?

- Any suggestions for sites to visit prior to my trip like you'd do on Prepagos for Central / South America??

- Will have a car. Any suggestions on places to check out?.

I'll be there in Aruba the 15th staying at the mill. If your around and want hook up this is my 4th trip and know the st Nicolas area pretty good.

[Tbird]

1. I have Verizon and use the travel pass. $10 for 24 hours and you use your plan as if you are in the states. As someone mentioned, you can get a sim from Digicel or Setar, but I know people who have run into issues with incoming and outgoing calls.

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The issue with Travelpass (which I have used on Bonaire and Curacao as well) is that it bumps you down to 3 G (or even 2 G which is unusable) after 500 mB per day unless you pay again. I would just get a local SIM. The overall network quality on the ABC islands is simply not the greatest, just be prepared for that.

[Geffe71]

Going down to get out of the cold, enjoy some nice ocean, snorkel, gamble maybe, monger a little, visit San Nicolas.

Questions:

- I have AT&T here in States for my phone. Should I get int'l plan add-on or buy a pre-loaded phone when down there?.

1. I have Verizon and use the travel pass. $10 for 24 hours and you use your plan as if you are in the states. As someone mentioned, you can get a sim from Digicel or Setar, but I know people who have run into issues with incoming and outgoing calls.

2. See above. Depending where you stay, high speed WiFi, but password protected for each resort / hotel.

3. Momba Beach bar, The Mill, Gusto (depending on your age), the bars in San Nicolas.

3 a. Restaurant suggestions are based on what you want to eat. I have plenty.

4. No idea what you are talking about.

5. California Lighthouse, Baby Beach, Casabari Rock, the Aruhiba place if you like cigars, Balashi Brewery.

6. Go see my guy Julio on Eagle Beach for snorkel trips.

[Tbird]

Going down to get out of the cold, enjoy some nice ocean, snorkel, gamble maybe, monger a little, visit San Nicolas.

Questions:

- I have AT&T here in States for my phone. Should I get int'l plan add-on or buy a pre-loaded phone when down there?

- How about Internet / Wifi situation?



- Any suggestions for sites to visit prior to my trip like you'd do on Prepagos for Central / South America??





Anyway, any suggestions or input welcome and surely if any of you mongerers (no such word) going to be down there, let me know.

Xbeatle.

Just get a local SIM at the airport. I also suggest looking at frequencycheck.com to make sure your device supports all or most LTE bands on Aruba, otherwise you may get stuck on 3 G. If you have not yet downloaded Whatsapp, do so now. This is how ALL girls communicate. They do not make voice calls any more.

Quality of Wi-Fi will depend on where you go.

I am not sure what sites you are thinking of. Best thing to do would be brush up on your Spanish at least a bit if you do not speak it.

[XBeatle]

Going down to get out of the cold, enjoy some nice ocean, snorkel, gamble maybe, monger a little, visit San Nicolas.

Questions:

- I have AT&T here in States for my phone. Should I get int'l plan add-on or buy a pre-loaded phone when down there?

- How about Internet / Wifi situation?

- Any "meet local women" bar / restaurant suggestions?

- Any suggestions for sites to visit prior to my trip like you'd do on Prepagos for Central / South America??

- Will have a car. Any suggestions on places to check out?

- going to snorkel so any suggestions on that would be cool.

Anyway, any suggestions or input welcome and surely if any of you mongerers (no such word) going to be down there, let me know.

Xbeatle.