One Wing Low in Shenzhen

[OldAsiaHand]

To OAH.

You call him out and you want him to help you to find actions in Tijuana just don't work that way, so you are retire back in the US and stay out of trouble.

Fast eddie 48.

FE48,

I have tried several times to let bygones be bygones with OWL. He asked me and I gave him advice about a freebie in Beijing as a gesture of good faith a few years ago. I just could not help myself when Fran123 mentioned the exaggeration aspect.

I feel obligated to stand up for Bill Lee (RIP) who many of you know from this forum.

Anyway, it is strange that I can see OWL posts when I reply to your message but not on the normal thread. Does that mean that OWL is ignoring me? At least, he admits now that he made a mistake that day in Zhuhai. After all these years.

Just my POV.

OAH.

P.S. I will never be able to "stay out of trouble" even in the USA. I have been mongering my whole life. Tijuana is just the closest option for me now.

[One Wing Low]

After 10 years and you are still bitching about the 300 Rmb I gave to Bin Bin by mistake in Zhuhai.

I have plenty of friends who are nice, kind, fun, generous. I would much rather not see you again, or worse, spend any time with you! A few other bros in China came to the same conclusion about you.

I did not delete your post. Jackson wisely deleted it along with my response.

[Fast Eddie 48]

ABCinLA,

It looks like OWL deleted my post. The history goes back a long time. We were just trying to help him and this is what we get. We (Bill Lee, Johnnykon666, AG and myself) agreed to meet him to show him the ropes in Zhuai. He will never admit what really went down.

Now, I am asking him to help me out in Tijuana and he refuses and calls me more names.

Just my POV.

OAH.

To OAH.

You call him out and you want him to help you to find actions in Tijuana just don't work that way, so you are retire back in the US and stay out of trouble.

Fast eddie 48.

[Ikksman]

{S N I P}Guys, just one question, in the Shenzhen and Hong Kong area how cold does it get in late October / Early November time of the year? Has anybody here been in this area around that time of year?

El Cubanito.

Cold enough to wear a light jacket or pullover during the day, but luckily not much colder in the evenings. Good time of year (nice cuddling weather) in comparison to the hot summers with v. High humidity and minimum night time temperatures still in the very high 20's or low 30's! Even in the past few days (Mid-Autumn Festival), it has been very hot and steamy.

Cheers.

[OldAsiaHand]

Yes OWL, Oha and myself, look forward to going down to Tijuana with you.

ABCinLA,

It looks like OWL deleted my post. The history goes back a long time. We were just trying to help him and this is what we get. We (Bill Lee, Johnnykon666, AG and myself) agreed to meet him to show him the ropes in Zhuai. He will never admit what really went down.

Now, I am asking him to help me out in Tijuana and he refuses and calls me more names.

Just my POV.

OAH.

[El Cubanito]

I also disagree with the statement "If the pros would not do foreigners, the chance of finding freebies would be 10 x harder". The non WGs are often more curious, adventurous and more willing than most WGs. Many WGs also just want to earn their money doing the least amount of work possible ("it's too big", "you are hurting me", "you have damaged my meimei" etc etc etc).

The same poster then makes the generalisation that "Alleged freebies in Date in Asia site are just jokes". He justifies this claim with just one experience "The girl I met in ShenZhen posted a very pretty face pic, but in real life she was ugly, overweight, lumpy and ill-manned {sic}. I dropped her after 10 minutes.". Maybe he was just extremely unlucky, or his standards of beauty are total different to the norm?

I have met dozens of very beautiful girls on dating sites (CLL in particular). It is in fact the very best way to meet attractive divorced girls (who often also have a daughter). These girls have much reduced chances of finding a Chinese guy. Their photos are usually genuine, although professionally taken and photoshopped. And sometimes one of their photos is when they were younger, but their other photos are more recent.

BTW DIA is not one of the preferred sites for Chinese girls. They regard it as a crude place where perverts and guys looking for a quick f**k frequent. On CLL (plus some others), there are thousands of girls in, or not too far from Shenzhen. Very easy to find and meet lots of girls. The only downside is that the great majority of these girls are looking for something permanent. Therefore some skill and consideration needs to be exercised to prevent major upsets, either initially, or when one wants to move on.

The poster, was of course OWL, and these recent posts possibly show why he has ended up alone on this dead thread.

BTW, I took Stinky's post about OWL being the Dali Lama as sarcasm!

Cheers.

Ikksman,

I agree with your points. I have never been to China and when I go in October this will be my first time. But I think that some people are not understanding the true nature as to what is going on in China and these WG. WG, naturally want you to finish quickly because, think about it how many guys have they seen on a given day. How many penises have gone through that Vagina. That is why WG is my last option, I am not saying that some non pro are just as bad as WG. In some cases some non pros might have seen as many guys as a WG in a given night.

Ikksman, you made a point that I think is true in just about any country that one visit. Non pros are more curious when it comes to foreigners and bedding them. I have seen this in just about all of the Countries that I have travel. Like I stated before, this is my first time in China and I do have 2 strikes against me. One, I do not know the language and two I am a Afro-Cuban, which unfortunately will sandwich me with some of the negative stereo type that people throughout the world have of people of color, especially if they have never had any association with them. With those 2 strikes against me yes I am at a disadvantage. I think I would have success just like I have had in Russia and Ukraine, which have great negative biases against man of color. In those country they see a person of Color and their views are they are like most people of Africa, walking with their asses hanging out and barefoot and having terrible hygiene. I am not mad that is the way the world is. This one girl that I met in Russia in a Restaurant, she say that when she first saw me, it never cross her mind that she would be in bed with me. She is currently one of many friends that I have throughout the world. We are very good friends, with benefits.

I have been to the Philippines and Thailand and been with WG and Non in those countries. But I have never had any issues about the size of my Mr. Willie. If anything we have had some amazing sessions, which we both have enjoy tremendously. I will admit that I am a bit surprise about all of the comment here about men penis sizes. Hey, but it is a different country and culture that I have never been too and as I always do I learn something new from every country that I have been to.

I am really looking forward to my trip over to China and meeting people over there.

Guys, just one question, in the Shenzhen and Hong Kong area how cold does it get in late October / Early November time of the year? Has anybody here been in this area around that time of year?

El Cubanito.

[Ikksman]

{S N I P}I don't quite agree with the comment made by a previous post that if pros wont accept you 10x chance regular girls won't. I work in northern china, and I've had multiple chances to be with girls from work who have showed keen interest, but I haven't tried to either (as my situation with my job and personal life won't allow it). {S N I P}

I also disagree with the statement "If the pros would not do foreigners, the chance of finding freebies would be 10 x harder". The non WGs are often more curious, adventurous and more willing than most WGs. Many WGs also just want to earn their money doing the least amount of work possible ("it's too big", "you are hurting me", "you have damaged my meimei" etc etc etc).

The same poster then makes the generalisation that "Alleged freebies in Date in Asia site are just jokes". He justifies this claim with just one experience "The girl I met in ShenZhen posted a very pretty face pic, but in real life she was ugly, overweight, lumpy and ill-manned {sic}. I dropped her after 10 minutes.". Maybe he was just extremely unlucky, or his standards of beauty are total different to the norm?

I have met dozens of very beautiful girls on dating sites (CLL in particular). It is in fact the very best way to meet attractive divorced girls (who often also have a daughter). These girls have much reduced chances of finding a Chinese guy. Their photos are usually genuine, although professionally taken and photoshopped. And sometimes one of their photos is when they were younger, but their other photos are more recent.

BTW DIA is not one of the preferred sites for Chinese girls. They regard it as a crude place where perverts and guys looking for a quick f**k frequent. On CLL (plus some others), there are thousands of girls in, or not too far from Shenzhen. Very easy to find and meet lots of girls. The only downside is that the great majority of these girls are looking for something permanent. Therefore some skill and consideration needs to be exercised to prevent major upsets, either initially, or when one wants to move on.

The poster, was of course OWL, and these recent posts possibly show why he has ended up alone on this dead thread.

BTW, I took Stinky's post about OWL being the Dali Lama as sarcasm!

Cheers.

[Split]

My brother than I am in trouble. Mr. Willie is about 8. 5 to 9 inches, not overly big, but not small either. A little above average. I will post a report as to what happens in late October / Early November for me in China.

But I will go and enjoy the sites, the mall and try to meet as many people as possible.

I am this size (possibly slightly larger depending on how horny I am) and I have a neck-breaking time getting these pros to accept me at times. I've had girls take snapshots with their phone and compare the thickness to their wrists with expressions of disbelief. And I'm white and decent looking (not that pros would care about that anyhow). They act like 8 inches is giving anal birth once they see it. But occasionally, I luck out with northern Heilongjian girls who are more willing and playful about it. But most are not willing to do anything more than missionary once they've ventured an alternate position and realize the size is too much. Oddly, I've had 1 or 2 petite girls who simply didn't care how hard I banged them without any complaints. The size of the girl doesn't seem to make any difference as many tall girls (and I mean a lot of these northern girls are big but gorgeous) have refused me, especially after having them a few times.

I don't quite agree with the comment made by a previous post that if pros wont accept you 10x chance regular girls won't. I work in northern china, and I've had multiple chances to be with girls from work who have showed keen interest, but I haven't tried to either (as my situation with my job and personal life won't allow it). I doubt they would refuse me if it came to a bedroom scenario. I have a black friend who works with me and both he and I have were messing around with the same girl (unknowingly until i found out and called her out on it). He's actually banging this girl - of which we all know and he is playing with other girls at the same time. He says his size is big and I know he gets his share of other women. Although he speaks Chinese, I don't.

[One Wing Low]

Hi ABC,

I would be happy to show you Tijuana. There are lots of girls with model and movie star looks combined with their fun, exy, flirtsy personalities. Tijuana is much better for sex than China.

But I will not go with OAH as he has demonstrated himself one of the crudest and meanest people I had the misfortune to meet.

I go to Tijuana just about every weekend, Friday or Saturday nights. PM me when you want to go.

Yes OWL, Oha and myself, look forward to going down to Tijuana with you. BTW in SZ for the last three days and I'm glad to see I can still get providers for 150 rmb sent to my room. Of

course the numbers are way down. Recognizing that, whenever I see one which is close to what I would call somewhat beautiful I just went with it versus always delaying my selection

until I saw every last girl in one particular apartment building. Of course a large chest would make up for alot of other defects. I did take a walk around the two nearest "cuns" to Hong Kong.

Which I know as Seibu and the pink apartments. In the Seibu area both times I just saw one streetwalker and did not get approached by any mommies. In the pink apartment areas I

also didn't make contact with any mommies; however, they seem to be active in the streets and any positive movement on my part would start the process.

[ABCinLA]

Yes OWL, Oha and myself, look forward to going down to Tijuana with you. BTW in SZ for the last three days and I'm glad to see I can still get providers for 150 rmb sent to my room. Of

course the numbers are way down. Recognizing that, whenever I see one which is close to what I would call somewhat beautiful I just went with it versus always delaying my selection

until I saw every last girl in one particular apartment building. Of course a large chest would make up for alot of other defects. I did take a walk around the two nearest "cuns" to Hong Kong.

Which I know as Seibu and the pink apartments. In the Seibu area both times I just saw one streetwalker and did not get approached by any mommies. In the pink apartment areas I

also didn't make contact with any mommies; however, they seem to be active in the streets and any positive movement on my part would start the process.

[Fran123]

You are making accusations without any proofs.

You are just an amateur as usual!

Ok, first do you speak or write Chinese, either Cantonese or Mandarin? I would say NO.

Second, how often do you go to China? When you do go, it's less than 2-3 weeks. I know you don't live there.

You are Asian, about 5 feet 3 inches, skinny with glasses. Being Asian does gets you by with girls compared to Caucasians.

[One Wing Low]

You are making accusations without any proofs.

You are just an amateur as usual!

Be carefu of One Wing Low. OWL has a habit of exaggerating things. He information is second hand.

He gets information from different forums and then try he tries out for himself. He rarely goes to China and he doesn't even speak Cantonese or Mandarin.

[Fran123]

Be carefu of One Wing Low. OWL has a habit of exaggerating things. He information is second hand.

He gets information from different forums and then try he tries out for himself. He rarely goes to China and he.

Doesn't even speak Cantonese or Mandarin.

One thing that I know he is an expert is Tijuana because he lives a few hours from Tijuana. He knows the ins and outs of Tijuana for
sure.

[StinkyFeet]

Sorry, I was out of town for a week and did not sign in this site. But the bros have answered a lot of your questions regarding China.

Eventhough ZhenZhen is a metropolis, the people are still conservative and xenophobic.

About 2 years ago I was with a Caucasian bro, young, nice, good-looking, medium size. He had been living in SZ over 2 years but could not get laid. We were walking through the alleys in Xiang Xin Cun when it was full of good-looking young girls playing outside, grabbing johns.

I am Asian, spoke no Mandarin, but was able to pick up the best-looking girls for the standard rate of 150 why on site or 200 why to go to the hotel. The Caucasian bro however had a hard time even engaging the girls. They would not even look at or talk to the guy. When pressed they all wanted 500 to 800 why to go with him. So he just gave up and went home.

If the pros would not do foreigners, the chance of finding freebies would be 10 x harder.

Alleged freebies in Date in Asia site are just jokes. The girl I met in ShenZhen posted a very pretty face pic, but in real life she was ugly, overweight, lumpy and ill-manned. I dropped her after 10 minutes.

I have seen a few sweet, very beautiful young Chinese girls walk hand in hand with much bigger Westerners in SZ. However your goals may be difficult to impossible staying in SZ only a few weeks. You may have easier time in the Philippines or Thailand to meet girls for friendship and sex, since they have seen far more foreigners come and go.

Good luck and report your finding.

For some reason. I felt in awe reading the reply from the venerable dali lama that is one wing low.

[One Wing Low]

Sorry, I was out of town for a week and did not sign in this site. But the bros have answered a lot of your questions regarding China.

Eventhough ZhenZhen is a metropolis, the people are still conservative and xenophobic.

About 2 years ago I was with a Caucasian bro, young, nice, good-looking, medium size. He had been living in SZ over 2 years but could not get laid. We were walking through the alleys in Xiang Xin Cun when it was full of good-looking young girls playing outside, grabbing johns.

I am Asian, spoke no Mandarin, but was able to pick up the best-looking girls for the standard rate of 150 why on site or 200 why to go to the hotel. The Caucasian bro however had a hard time even engaging the girls. They would not even look at or talk to the guy. When pressed they all wanted 500 to 800 why to go with him. So he just gave up and went home.

If the pros would not do foreigners, the chance of finding freebies would be 10 x harder.

Alleged freebies in Date in Asia site are just jokes. The girl I met in ShenZhen posted a very pretty face pic, but in real life she was ugly, overweight, lumpy and ill-manned. I dropped her after 10 minutes.

I have seen a few sweet, very beautiful young Chinese girls walk hand in hand with much bigger Westerners in SZ. However your goals may be difficult to impossible staying in SZ only a few weeks. You may have easier time in the Philippines or Thailand to meet girls for friendship and sex, since they have seen far more foreigners come and go.

Good luck and report your finding.

I had plans to go to Ukraine this month but I cancel due to all of the crazy stuff going over there with Politics.

One Wing I have change my plans for my vacation to October. I am considering Costa Rica, Thailand or Shenzhen, China. The plans are if I go is to fly into Hong Kong and then take transport to Shenzhen. I will be staying at either the International Hotel or the Crowne Plaza Hotel. I do not speak Chinese, but I do speak English or Spanish. I do have game when it comes to girls and have travel to Ukraine, Dominican Republic, Argentina, Brazil and Thailand for mongering purposes.

I do have a couple of questions:

1. I have read that the government is cracking down on people bringing girls to their Hotel Rooms, is this still true?..