FKK Bernd's - Schieferhof

[Fats]

Mara (24 years and no Killer-boobs).

There are no hot 22 year old milfs at bernds unless mara had a kid

Maybe the perception of age is part of the equation-Mara will turn 29 in February.

[Marlow]

My first visit to Bernds was way back in the mid nineties. There was no World, Artemis etc at all. Oase existed but was slowly decaying with as I remember around five girls on show and never more then ten men at any one time. So Bernds was THE place to go. The clientele was on average mid thirties and the atmosphere electric. No foreigners. It was rare to meet anyone who wasn't from the Cologne area. The internet at that time boasted only a very out of date website with some information on sex clubs in Germany. The girls were mostly mid twenties though some late thirties. Something of the old atmosphere still exists at Bernds, but frankly it is a notch or two below what it was ten years ago.

The reason is not so much the girls but the men.

To be honest it is now the haunt of the aged gent.

Yes, it always catered for the fat German businessman, but my last visit the wrinkly parade was noticable. I have nothing against old men in search of youth and beauty. Where else are they going to find it. But as the testosterone level decreases with age so does the ability to have riotous fun. Which is how Bernds used to be.

So I think this debate about the age of the girls. Bernds never went in for nubile girlies that much. Is misplaced. And it amuses me that a bunch of forty plus members of this board are worried about the age of girls who are on average twenty years younger than them!

Bernds suffers from a demographic change. Younger guys go to those clubs like World that have sprung up in the past decade.

[Marlow]

My first visit to Bernds was way back in the mid nineties. There was no World, Artemis etc at all. Oase existed but was slowly decaying with as I remember around five girls on show and never more then ten men at any one time. So Bernds was THE place to go. The clientele was on average mid thirties and the atmosphere electric. No foreigners. It was rare to meet someone who wasn't from the Cologne area. The internet at that time boasted only a very out of date website with some information on sex clubs in Germany. The girls were mostly mid twenties though some late thirties. Something of the old atmosphere still exists at Bernds, but frankly it is a notch or two below what it was ten years ago.

The reason is not so much the girls but the men.

To be honest it is now the haunt of the aged gent.

Yes, it always catered for the fat German businessman, but my last visit the wrinkly parade was noticable. I have nothing against old men in search of youth and beauty. Where else are they going to find it. But as the testosterone level decreases with age so does the ability to have riotous fun. Which is how Bernds used to be.

So I think this debate about the age of the girls. Bernds never went in for nubile girlies that much. Is misplaced. And it amuses me that a bunch of forty plus members of this board are worried about the age of girls who are on average twenty years younger than them!

Bernds suffers from a demographic change. Younger guys go to those clubs like World that have sprung up in the past decade.

[Rob Raunch]

Have to ask the guys who love bernds if they'd mind telling us their age and what type of girls they book.

Okay.

I am 46 and I book girls like Nathali (27 years and killer-boobs!) and Magda (26 years and Killer-boobs!) but also Mara (24 years and no Killer-boobs).

But I also like to go to a room with Tina (22 years).

You can hardly call these girls MILFS (although, Nathali has a kid)

MILF's or not? For me is the quality of service what counts!

I have been to the room with Babsi, Sandra and with Katja and yes they are over 40 but their figures are definately NOT overweight and all of them are masters of illusion.

I will gladly trade a one hour session with a random 19 year-old in any club for half an hour with one of these women!

Its the service-level, the couch-action, the french kissing and the Girlfriend-sex that has kept the Club alive for more then 30 years now (they just had a week long celebration)

Bernds: either you love it or you hate it! (like any other Club)

[Tobyg]

Have to ask the guys who love bernds if they'd mind telling us their age and what type of girls they book.

I am 43. I have had sex with almost all the ladies at Bernds and have had a great time with most of them.

With regard to your comment about attitude, that's exactly the reason why I like Bernds. As Katja put it one night, this place is more about friendly sex than commercial sex.

I do see why a lot of guys don't like this place. If you are looking for 30 18-25 year olds then you are going to be disappointed here. There is also stuff all to do do between sessions. For me I find that I am having better time here while I'm having sex but a better time at places like World or Oase when I'm not having sex. As the reason for going to FKK clubs is to have sex, then that's why I like Schieferhof.

[Breadman]

What happened at Bernds that put you on a quest to make sure there is a "fair and balanced" counter view to anyone suggesting that their time there was enjoyable?

Why shouldn't I post my view compared to someone who had an enjoyable time? I'd like to think that by reporting both the positive and the negatives of a club, then the hobbiests who've never been to Bernds can make an informed decision on whether or not to visit the club. Yin and Yang. Guys don't want to visit World because of the bikers who own it, should they not be allowed to report their decision to boycott the club?

The suggestion that Bernds is full of / has mostly MILFs is nonsense. the fact of the matter is that after averaging the ages among Bernds SPs who were present during one of my recent visits—ages available from Freiercafe, Ijsberenforum, and my own knowledge—I've found that the mean age of a Bernds SP is 29 and the median age is 28.

Age really has nothing to do with a milf argument. There's 22 year old mothers with killer bodies. And on the other side of the spectrum there's 36 year old milf's who should have left the club scene years ago. There are no hot 22 year old milfs at bernds unless mara had a kid. The club really isnt for anyone mainly looking for girls with killer curves and hot young bodies. What they should expect to find is possibly one or two that will allow them not to leave unpopped.

Part about reading reports is trying to figure out who the person doing the writing likes and dislikes. Im 40 and I don't care for 85% of the talent at Bernds due to their overall looks, not their age. If there's 18 girls working, I might find 3 attractive. But I also like to find some chemistry, what if I don't get along with 2 of those 3? Im now stuck with one girl who I find attractive and have some chemistry working. I think age plays a big factor, especially in reviews. Have to ask the guys who love bernds if they'd mind telling us their age and what type of girls they book.

[Gfe Finder]

The suggestion that Bernds is full of / has mostly MILFs is nonsense. It's simply not true and I can prove it. Focusing on what can be objectively measured and leaving aside the arguments that 'older' women have more sexual experience, are more service oriented, can be more fun to talk to, and have fewer hang-ups: the fact of the matter is that after averaging the ages among Bernds SPs who were present during one of my recent visits—ages available from Freiercafe, Ijsberenforum, and my own knowledge—I've found that the mean age of a Bernds SP is 29 and the median age is 28.

Compare this with a mean and median age of 27 at Oase; I obtained the data from the same 3 sources above. I ran a t-test with both data sets and the results indicated a 24% probability that the difference is due to chance. In other words, since the result is >5%, it's entirely reasonable to conclude that any measured difference between mean ages is entirely random and thus a.) not statistically significant and b.) possible that mean ages would be the same or even reversed by comparing other days' lineups.

[London Traveller]

What happened at Bernds that put you on a quest to make sure there is a "fair and balanced" counter view to anyone suggesting that their time there was enjoyable?

He's not the only one!

[Boomer10]

The guys who like bernds like bernds for what it is and defend it with glowing reports that make it hard to pick out the 'MILF reports'. I've always suggested trying out Finca for their 30 euro happy hour entrance, the club is just down the road a ways (50 km's or so). For what you pay at Bernds (70 euro's) to enter, you can do a girl and entrance at Finca for 80 total AND they'll do couch action if you ask for it.

What happened at Bernds that put you on a quest to make sure there is a "fair and balanced" counter view to anyone suggesting that their time there was enjoyable?

[Breadman]

But you know. I do not like "German style" porn, I do not like genres like "Milfs","Grannies", or "Old-on-young". My favorite genre is "Solo teens". By that reason after session with Erika I jumped into my rental car and left to Parksauna Residenz. It was a mistake. I found Parksauna Residence as a boring place with very strange layout. Will newer repeat.

The guys who like bernds like bernds for what it is and defend it with glowing reports that make it hard to pick out the 'MILF reports'. I've always suggested trying out Finca for their 30 euro happy hour entrance, the club is just down the road a ways (50 km's or so). For what you pay at Bernds (70 euro's) to enter, you can do a girl and entrance at Finca for 80 total AND they'll do couch action if you ask for it.

[Tobyg]

Now, if only ONE of those girls in attendance were called Mara, Anna or Natalie, I would still leave the club as a happy man. But hey, that is just me .

Mara and Natalie weren't there, but Anna was and I did leave happy.

Thanks for the feedback. Good to know that it was just bad timing on my part.

[Shark16]

It sounds like August (vacation time) in a small FKK club to me. Even worse: It was a Monday in August in a small club. Not that I am a B's expert, but you hear (and experience) those kinds of summer reports from the smaller FKK's every now and then. I would not say it is typical, but I think it is fair to say that there is a significant risk that should be considered.

Sure, the line-up at the larger clubs are also weaker in summertime, but you still have a selection of 15- 40 girls on a bad day.

Now, if only ONE of those girls in attendance were called Mara, Anna or Natalie, I would still leave the club as a happy man. But hey, that is just me ...

[Tobyg]

I was recently at Bernds on a Monday. The day started with four girls on duty + Sandra, with Mascha & Katja turning up later. This is well below the number I was expecting. Was this day an aberration, or does this happen a lot?

[Jymondor]

Ciao Jymondor.

Let's go to Parksauna's thread to continue this discussion!

[Kimino]

Bernds is reported here in all the details. I will not repeat known things. I read all posts about Bernds that I found in this forum. I am not Muslim and I don't have to visit Mekka. But I am a monger and I had to pay my visit to Bernds. So, I did it.

Ciao Jymondor.

I visited Bernds with the same mental approach as you (at least I think). I wanted to visit Bernds and I'm happy I did. So I understand perfectly what you mean. And me too, I sessioned with Erika.

What puzzles me is the Park Sauna Residenz thing. As I said in my report, I really had fun at the place. Nice facilities, nice girls, nice sessions. All this during daytime, although it was a national holiday.

Many others (also people I know personally) had different experiences and didn't enjoy the place at all. I understand that we all have different tastes but I do think it's more a matter of consistency. Meaning that not all days are the same and the lineup may vary a lot.

In my limited experience, the only place where things don't vary so much and you can have fun whenever you visit is Artemis. If the club meets your tastes.

Thanks for the report.

Ciao.

Kimino