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01-28-21 00:38 #2066
Posts: 2344Mostly agree with this, regarding China and Russia anyway. And also regarding that most Europeans not grasping the root of American power and thus our attitude. I don't even think many liberal Americans grasp it, at least they don't seem to want to come to terms with what made America become a powerhouse. But some of those roots of power are now pretty inconsequential. Geographic isolation, free of nearby foes, shouldn't be anywhere near as beneficial with the current state of warfare. Even if we were plopped in between Russia and China, I'm not sure that geography and locale would be the most important factor in strategic planning. The economic globalization trend of acquiring natural resources and the push towards renewable energy may also also make that less of a factor. Who knows what the financial-currency picture will look like. Will the dollar remain the reserve currency? Will fiat currency at all? Blockchain-Crypto? Too many wildcards to rest on our past laurels.
The assessment of the Russia threat seems pretty fair with the exception of taking much stock in their role in the World Wars. Not sure this is the same Russia and I think their actions were probably out of self interest. But anyway, rarely do you see people articulating the Russian threat this way or citing their positive characteristics. Kudos.
I think regarding China, it should be hammered home that China is a rival rather than an enemy. The Chinese are practical and I'm sure they understand that war, whether military or economic, does not benefit them. As such, does anyone think that they would push their relationship with the west toward more conflict? Terms like threat and enemy seem to be weapons of cultural engineering to get the masses riled up.
Domestic policies aside, it seems that their international policies reflect them just playing the game pretty well. Their infrastructure positions in Africa and South America are due to sound economic policy and masterfully executed. They pretty much own Nigeria and Sub-Saharan Africa at this point. Their financial and economic influence in Europe, the Pacific, and North America was respectfully built from the ground up, benefiting from economy of scale and unilateral agenda setting. Painting them as an enemy to be villainized rather than as a rival to outcompete seem to be a bitter grapes approach if you ask me.
As for Trump, should he be impeached? I thought so because the facts do show that while his words and actions would not convict him in a legal trial, his actions and words as President seem to put a great deal of fault on him. Again, impeaching doesn't necessary mean convicting for legal liability. Merely finding someone guilty of betraying public trust or just being drunk is enough to bar from high office. As far as constitutionality, well federal judges have been impeached and "convicted" in the past, post leaving office. We do have precedent for this. Now, with 45 GOP Senators already publicly opposing the trial, do I think it's worth it to continue? Not so much. But the ball is already rolling. Oh well.
Originally Posted by Philosophus [View Original Post]
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01-27-21 23:14 #2065
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
Because.
Every failed policy that trumpship would admit, were claimed to be Obama's fault!
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01-27-21 22:56 #2064
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by ShooBree [View Original Post]
Maybe next time in English, S, Swede?
Your language problems makes you very hard to understand. Are you trying to communicate about your favorite anime character (s)?
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01-27-21 22:31 #2063
Posts: 526China
Cultured and non-corrupt. Say what? They may have millennia of "culture" but their culture is certainly not something most nations or people aspire to. As for non-corrupt. What have you been smoking and where can I get some? I agree with much of your assessment, but not in these cases.
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01-27-21 22:08 #2062
Posts: 690Neanderthals say the dumbest things
In 1950's USA Art Linkletter hosted a TV program "Kids say the darnest things" Fast forward to the the new millennium, Political Neanderthals say the dumbest things. Targeted foreign aid (a small % of GDP) to South America would go a long way to helping the economies there (2 hurricanes in Honduras with no help to the populace) and reverse the political problems cause by two centuries of interference. People in South and middle America with nothing left to lose are not coming north to participate in the fractured democracy, and what's left of it. BTW, this is how Wikipedia traces the origin of "impeach". "The French empechier, EMPcher, from Latin "impedicare" caught, entrapped, to prevent. Late 14th century empechen, to hinder, impede, prevent. The Middle English verb apechen, to "accuse, charge". With a few clicks anyone can find facts to suit a twisted logic. America was beautiful before the invaders came. Now it’s empty strip malls and online shoppers as digital tools of Bozos, Fuckerberg and Bamboozled. A seriously aggrieved white minority living in the past, while others are moving forward. “Progressive” and adverb. Circa 1600 “characterized by advancement, going forward,progress.
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01-27-21 21:26 #2061
Posts: 102The ecology
Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
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01-27-21 21:17 #2060
Posts: 102Shoo Bree not wrong
Originally Posted by ShooBree [View Original Post]
It does not matter what "the majority" of Europeans think. Many Europeans do not grasp the roots of American power: Technology. Cooperation. Size. Natural resources. Soil. Climate. Foe-free geography. Currency union. Federal debt underwriting. Federal military bringing states to heel if need be. Grit. Russia is no big problem. In fact Russia is 90% Godsend and 10% nuisance. Cultured. Cooperative. Perennial battle with inhospitable nature. Organized. Big. Positive. Capricious. Exciting. Advanced. Funny. Covers Europe's back. Successful. If not as successful as the USA. Their cyberwarfarce has the very benign consequence that we harden our systems. When important things happen, Russia cooperates, like against Hitler and against the Taliban. Biden off to no-showboat Realpolitik with Russia. I rout for him. China is a much bigger issue because it is a very populous, cultured, organized, technology-capable, focussed, non-corrupt, aspiring hegemon. Most Europeans do not grasp the roots of Chinese weakness: Conformity. Fear. Opportunism. Government mandated atheism. Foes all around. Every Renminbi Chinas spends is offset by a renminbi of a local foe. Zero to negative soft power. That said: Trade is good. We encourage the doves in Beijing by vesting Beijings interest in peace with her neighbors. Go Taiwan!
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01-27-21 21:09 #2059
Posts: 1068Agreed
Originally Posted by ShooBree [View Original Post]
Look at his first week.
Reverse Trump immigration policies. Now we have caravans starting from Central America because Biden promised open borders to them.
Stopped deportation so now people sneaking across the border (both criminal and possibly Covid carriers) can be released into the USA.
Promised $4 billion to Central America that they will get before USA citizens get their next stimulus check.
Promised citizenship to 11,000,000 illegals including gang members and criminals so that they don't have to vote democratic illegally next election.
Killed the Keystone Pipeline costing thousands of union jobs and screwing Canada.
Killed our domestic oil industry so that we can be more reliant on foreign oil so we can get in a war over oil.
Still trying to tie immigration and state money to the stimulus. He doesn't want to help the citizens and small business. He wants to bail out democratic states that are broke because of their failed policies and get illegals sworn in. Covid Stimulus should not be tied to immigration and illegals but only for citizens.
Pushing the green energy thinking that but a miracle we can convert all our cars and buildings to electric by 2030 when we are only getting 5% from those sources now.
The thing about socialism is that all the government needs to do is tell you it works and everything will be better and you believe it. Well the smart 50% of the USA don't believe it. After 4 years the other 50% will just say that it didn't work but it wasn't Sleepy Joe fault it was Trump's fault.
Mark my words: Every failed policy by sleepy Joe will be Trump's fault! And if you don't believe me ask the honest media CNN.
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01-27-21 20:53 #2058
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by ChochaMonger [View Original Post]
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01-27-21 18:31 #2057
Posts: 657Proud Boys Leader Was 'Prolific' FBI Snitch: Court Docs
While US officials claim that 'far-right extremism' is one of the largest threats facing America, the leader of the group most commonly singled out as an example. The Proud Boys. Was a 'prolific' informant for federal and local law enforcement, according to Reuters, citing a 2014 federal court proceeding.
Enrique Tarrio repeatedly worked undercover for investigators following a 2012 arrest, court documents reveal.
Curiously, Tarrio was ordered to stay away from Washington the. See. One day before the January 6 Capitol riot after he was arrested on vandalism and weapons charges. Upon a request by government prosecutors that he be prohibited from attending. At least five Proud Boys members were charged as part of the riot.
In a Tuesday interview with Reuters, Tarrio denied working undercover or cooperating in cases.
"I don't know any of this," he said, adding "I don't recall any of this."
Law-enforcement officials and the court transcript contradict Tarrio's denial. In a statement to Reuters, the former federal prosecutor in Tarrio's case, Vanessa Singh Johannes, confirmed that "he cooperated with local and federal law enforcement, to aid in the prosecution of those running other, separate criminal enterprises, ranging from running marijuana grow houses in Miami to operating pharmaceutical fraud schemes. ".
Tarrio, 36, is a high-profile figure who organizes and leads the right-wing Proud Boys in their confrontations with those they believe to be Antifa, short for "anti-fascism," an amorphous and often violent leftist movement. The Proud Boys were involved in the deadly insurrection at the Capitol January 6.
The records uncovered by Reuters are startling because they show that a leader of a far-right group now under intense scrutiny by law enforcement was previously an active collaborator with criminal investigators. -Reuters.
. Tarrio's involvement with law enforcement will no doubt fuel speculation over just how 'organic' the threat of 'far-right extremism' is, particularly when the vast majority of violence observed over 2020 was committed by far-left groups rioting in the name of racial justice."
Zerohedge dot com.
Commenter: "IOW, the leader of the Proud Boys was an agent provocateur reporting to FBI handlers. " Where was Lisa Page and Agent Strozk when the "capitol insurrection" went down? LOL.
"Duh, at least 50% of any group like this are federal agents or informants. They will create or even takeover the groups. Decentralization. " How many of the "rioters" in the Capitol were paid to be there?
"This story is incredibly easy for me to believe, especially a day after the story of the child turning in his father for the horrific atrocity of entering into what was an open public building before the ruling class set the 1,000 meter rule of no approach. What was the father's other crime again? Complaining (and protesting) about election fraud?
"I had a trial a few years ago in which most of the MS-13 leaders worked for FBI while in leadership position."
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...tch-court-docs
Originally Posted by ChochaMonger [View Original Post]
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01-27-21 18:05 #2056
Posts: 690President Biden, for bad or worse
Sleepy Joe Biden is POTUS. Fat Nixon is Commander in Thief of a shadow government, pulling the puppet strings in the two venerable houses.
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01-27-21 17:47 #2055
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by Beijing4987 [View Original Post]
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01-27-21 17:37 #2054
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by ScatManDoo [View Original Post]
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01-27-21 17:01 #2053
Posts: 1184Originally Posted by Beijing4987 [View Original Post]
Both Europe and USA are tired of China. I would say that most people in the Western world considers China to be a bigger problem than Russia.
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01-27-21 16:54 #2052
Posts: 690Not exonerated. Rejected by a majority of voters
The Special Counsel's report made it clear that DJT was not exonerated. Cut loose by a Senate controlled by Republicans, yes, so as not to lose a primary if they crossed him. It's a fake battle. It is a one party system controlled by entrenched wealth with a constitution guaranteed to protect it. Bad and disingenuous people on both sides. The corporations that supported Republicans have been shamed a bit, but will get over it soon enough. USA is consuming itself from within. Europe trusts the USA, will go a separate way and be more neutral in the conflict with China.